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Title: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 08:19:39 AM
Rvhh was first to hint. Now hear Uhuru wants two CS.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 10:16:43 AM

Dead on arrival , as long as Uhuru is supporting Ruto /Raila zero support from Mt Kenya.
He will still be No 3 come 2027 .

Rvhh was first to hint. Now hear Uhuru wants two CS.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 10:54:47 AM
Mt kenya are not all that dude.
Kenya ni kubwa sana.

Uhuru move leave Mt kenya confused.
If he endorses Kindiki - then Kindiki could rise from the dead - and at least defend Mt kenya east.

If he is buying time with Raila for 2027 re-match then Muhoho will be on the sidelines.

Gachagua is the biggest losers in Kenyatta move.

Kenyatta have basically refused to reconcile with RiggyG.
He is now biggest enemy of kenyatta - as he was trying to do what Ruto did to kenyattta - move their cheese

Because Kenyatta only care about have political influence in Mt  kenya.

RiggyG now has to move with Kalonzo and Waitutus....and see if they can make lemonade from their impeachment.
Na bado screws will be brought to bear - EACC and bankruptcy loading on RiggyG

Wamalwas are Uhuru poodles.

Dead on arrival , as long as Uhuru is supporting Ruto /Raila zero support from Mt Kenya.
He will still be No 3 come 2027 .
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 23, 2024, 02:49:15 PM
Stop dragging Uhuru’s name into your nonsense, nothing can save Ruto who has been summarily rejected by Kenyan. Ruto and his cabal of thieves have nowhere to hide, even the church cannot touch their blood money. He will be gone together with most Mpigs, governors and these vomitous faces of a failed regime https://x.com/alfredarapketer/status/1859881049674613109?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Its the end of Ruto’s type of politics of division, corruption, mediocrity and tribalism. The things you write here now sound archaic and idiotic. I hate to even come here and reply to these nonsense. I had vowed to not be drawn into these garbage anymore, I think its beneath all of us on this site.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 03:13:03 PM
Mutahi from nyeri set for cabinet https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-11-23-kikuyu-elders-endorse-mutahi-kagwe-for-cs-role
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 03:13:58 PM
Stop dragging Uhuru’s name into your nonsense, nothing can save Ruto who has been summarily rejected by Kenyan. Ruto and his cabal of thieves have nowhere to hide, even the church cannot touch their blood money. He will be gone together with most Mpigs, governors and these vomitous faces of a failed regime https://x.com/alfredarapketer/status/1859881049674613109?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Its the end of Ruto’s type of politics of division, corruption, mediocrity and tribalism. The things you write here now sound archaic and idiotic. I hate to even come here and reply to these nonsense. I had vowed to not be drawn into these garbage anymore, I think its beneath all of us on this site.
Truck driver Uhuru doesnt care abuut you nit restoring his uthamaki
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 23, 2024, 04:52:10 PM
Uhuru doesn't care about Ruto either, he is not Raila who is impressed by shiny things. He is happy that in contrast, his legacy is secure compared to what is in power. He grew up around power, he achieved power, he was maligned by lies and Kenyans now know this, who wants to lose that and join a stinking skunk? Ruto is the biggest disappointment south of Sahara, to be honest, I did not support him but when he won, he started saying all the right things, no tribalism, corruption, extra judicial killings etc then he surrounded himself with Moi type fossils, he was completely let down by people around him. We were back to mega corruption, tribalism, arrogance, mediocrity and stupidity. He mishandled finance bill, killed protesters, Adani mega corruption, borrowing with nothing to show for it other that his friends shuffling around with bags of money. The verdict is in, he and his friends can take their stolen loot, hope to stay out of jail and get out of our lives. Please stop boring us with rumors from your drinking buddies, you are starting to sound like a broken record.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 06:32:48 PM
Uhuru doesn't care about Ruto either, he is not Raila who is impressed by shiny things. He is happy that in contrast, his legacy is secure compared to what is in power. He grew up around power, he achieved power, he was maligned by lies and Kenyans now know this, who wants to lose that and join a stinking skunk? Ruto is the biggest disappointment south of Sahara, to be honest, I did not support him but when he won, he started saying all the right things, no tribalism, corruption, extra judicial killings etc then he surrounded himself with Moi type fossils, he was completely let down by people around him. We were back to mega corruption, tribalism, arrogance, mediocrity and stupidity. He mishandled finance bill, killed protesters, Adani mega corruption, borrowing with nothing to show for it other that his friends shuffling around with bags of money. The verdict is in, he and his friends can take their stolen loot, hope to stay out of jail and get out of our lives. Please stop boring us with rumors from your drinking buddies, you are starting to sound like a broken record.
Si you dont believe Uhuru can work With Ruto even if the have work together severally in the past. Politics at Uhuru level is about securing billions. Opposition politics for him is costly. Thirdly Ruto is no longer the enemy. RiggyG is the enemy and prize is uthamaki
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:39:52 PM
Uhuru moves he did in 2022 didnt affect anything neither will they in 2027 . Its only what he said about Ruto back then in 2022 which Mt Kenyans were starting to reflect that he had a point now if he tries to side with Ruto similar to what Ruto did with Raila he will get the same wrath as he did in 2022 . You saw how Moses Kuria was chased away in Muranga like a burukenge and how Muranga voters booed Kangata when he tried to read Rutos speech .
There is nothing like Mt Kenya east or west , East are even more bitter than west .
Forget about Muhoho he is not a political player . Uhuru connected with Mt Kenyans because of the ICC and wars with Raila prior to 2013 elections.
I told you Ruto will be No 3 Raila no 2 come 2027 elections which is now what you are realizing hence even clutching to straws like Uhuru will save Ruto .
Rutos mistakes have cost him 2027 .


Mt kenya are not all that dude.
Kenya ni kubwa sana.

Uhuru move leave Mt kenya confused.
If he endorses Kindiki - then Kindiki could rise from the dead - and at least defend Mt kenya east.

If he is buying time with Raila for 2027 re-match then Muhoho will be on the sidelines.

Gachagua is the biggest losers in Kenyatta move.

Kenyatta have basically refused to reconcile with RiggyG.
He is now biggest enemy of kenyatta - as he was trying to do what Ruto did to kenyattta - move their cheese

Because Kenyatta only care about have political influence in Mt  kenya.

RiggyG now has to move with Kalonzo and Waitutus....and see if they can make lemonade from their impeachment.
Na bado screws will be brought to bear - EACC and bankruptcy loading on RiggyG

Wamalwas are Uhuru poodles.

Dead on arrival , as long as Uhuru is supporting Ruto /Raila zero support from Mt Kenya.
He will still be No 3 come 2027 .
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:44:35 PM
Just a week ago he was asking Ruto to massacre Uhuru politically now realising Ruto is out he is back hoping for Uhuru to rescue Ruto .
Politics does not play out that way . Ruto miscalculated with economics tried to use Raila to salvage his mistakes another miscalculation as it was bound to backfire due politics of betrayal , miscalculated with impeachment of Gachagua thinking would divide Mt Kenya and if yes indeed trying ask Uhuru for help another miscalculation . Same as Mois miscalculations in 90s and early 2000s .



Stop dragging Uhuru’s name into your nonsense, nothing can save Ruto who has been summarily rejected by Kenyan. Ruto and his cabal of thieves have nowhere to hide, even the church cannot touch their blood money. He will be gone together with most Mpigs, governors and these vomitous faces of a failed regime https://x.com/alfredarapketer/status/1859881049674613109?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Its the end of Ruto’s type of politics of division, corruption, mediocrity and tribalism. The things you write here now sound archaic and idiotic. I hate to even come here and reply to these nonsense. I had vowed to not be drawn into these garbage anymore, I think its beneath all of us on this site.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:45:29 PM

How many votes will he bring to Ruto which he didnt manage giving to Raila in 2022 ?

Mutahi from nyeri set for cabinet https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-11-23-kikuyu-elders-endorse-mutahi-kagwe-for-cs-role
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:47:35 PM

Now you are for Ruto working with Uhuru ……
Desperate times calls for desperare measures as sio ?

Uhuru doesn't care about Ruto either, he is not Raila who is impressed by shiny things. He is happy that in contrast, his legacy is secure compared to what is in power. He grew up around power, he achieved power, he was maligned by lies and Kenyans now know this, who wants to lose that and join a stinking skunk? Ruto is the biggest disappointment south of Sahara, to be honest, I did not support him but when he won, he started saying all the right things, no tribalism, corruption, extra judicial killings etc then he surrounded himself with Moi type fossils, he was completely let down by people around him. We were back to mega corruption, tribalism, arrogance, mediocrity and stupidity. He mishandled finance bill, killed protesters, Adani mega corruption, borrowing with nothing to show for it other that his friends shuffling around with bags of money. The verdict is in, he and his friends can take their stolen loot, hope to stay out of jail and get out of our lives. Please stop boring us with rumors from your drinking buddies, you are starting to sound like a broken record.
Si you dont believe Uhuru can work With Ruto even if the have work together severally in the past. Politics at Uhuru level is about securing billions. Opposition politics for him is costly. Thirdly Ruto is no longer the enemy. RiggyG is the enemy and prize is uthamaki
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:52:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="tl" dir="ltr">Muranga residents wamekataa kuskiza speech ya Kithure Kindiki na Ruto during a Burial Service. <a href="https://t.co/6boMCzfyvV">pic.twitter.com/6boMCzfyvV</a></p>&mdash; Lion of the Mountain (@BrianMPeter) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 23, 2024, 07:53:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="tl" dir="ltr">This is level of petty is admirable.<br>Moses Kuria ameanza kuongea upuzi wakaanza kuimba wimbo za golden bells.😂😂 <a href="https://t.co/yDNog52biF">pic.twitter.com/yDNog52biF</a></p>&mdash; Eve Maina (@evenmaina) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 08:40:00 PM
You think Ruto is not aware that of mt Kenya treachery. Ye started working on plan B the day he was sworn. Ruto gameplan in mt Kenya is to split the region. We aee seeing three camps emerging..possibly four..Uhuru,kindiki, gachugua n others. Ruto knows he aint getting kikiyu votes. But he will hide the aces n jokers. Only a fool will reject both Raila n Ruto. Opposition for 30yrs loading
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2024, 08:42:42 PM

How many votes will he bring to Ruto which he didnt manage giving to Raila in 2022 ?

Mutahi from nyeri set for cabinet https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-11-23-kikuyu-elders-endorse-mutahi-kagwe-for-cs-role
Ruto not interested in your votes...he impeached gachagua knowing the political consequences
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 24, 2024, 12:57:27 AM
Ruto’s rejection is not by mt Kenya only, its by the church, genZ, urbanites, majority of women, the noise about Ruto is like the end of days of Moi. You think Raila is stupid enough to support such a wounded person who is begging Uhuru for support? You think Uhuru who is at the height of his popularity all over Kenya ia going to join such an unpopular character? Stop drinking my friend, its causing delusions. The fact that Ruto is a one term President is a foregone conclusion. All young aspiring Kales should start distancing themselves from Ruto otherwise, they will be rotting with him at home.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Githunguri on November 24, 2024, 03:14:51 AM
This is why they want to harm Gachagua.To forcefully install their projects but it won't work.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 24, 2024, 08:11:05 AM
I guess Mutahi Kagwe and Kioni have secured the two CS positions. Uhuru rejected Gachagua's call to help him fight Ruto towards 2027. Someone said he saw the text where Uhuru replied with a simple text message, "Not interested, I don't fight my brother."
Kenyan politics is very complex. It will keep you spinning worse than the intimidator roller coaster in the carolinas! I see Pauline Njoroge is already oozing pro-Ruto content, shocking the Twitter space!
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 24, 2024, 10:18:01 AM
Yes unless RiggyG was joining Jubilee and supporting Muhoho; Uhuru will back Ruto; and their assignment is to finish Gachagua; Ruto aim is to take Mt kenya east; he surely knows kikuyus are out; Uhuru job is to take Kikuyu votes and hand him over to the brother.Poor Gachagua will be under attack from 3 corners.

Ultimately Kenyattas want Muhoho somewhere in the politics.

I guess Mutahi Kagwe and Kioni have secured the two CS positions. Uhuru rejected Gachagua's call to help him fight Ruto towards 2027. Someone said he saw the text where Uhuru replied with a simple text message, "Not interested, I don't fight my brother."
Kenyan politics is very complex. It will keep you spinning worse than the intimidator roller coaster in the carolinas! I see Pauline Njoroge is already oozing pro-Ruto content, shocking the Twitter space!
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 24, 2024, 04:58:30 PM
This site will die very soon like others before with this brain cell genocide topics and tribal nonsense. I switched off American politics for good, completely outgrown that brain pollution. At this point, I cannot even tell you who won what except the presidency. I am completely done with that nonsense and I actually feel better. This site chased away some real smart people by sticking to this level of discourse, I think its beneath us. Its totally hard to completely ignore Kenyan politics because we all have relatives and people we know suffering under extreme conditions but man, reading this kind of stuff or even thinking this was is very mentally draining.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: patel on November 24, 2024, 05:01:48 PM
Riggy G remains the defacto leader of Centro and Gema at large. As long as he keeps spewing the truth nothing will change. Uhuru represent the past. People will cheer him but nobody will follow him politically only those that have benefitted directly like Mutahi kagwe, kioni or Murathe. Mostly political rejects. Ruto biggest fight now is with the church and it will only intensify as they continue to push Shif-Shah-Shit down kenyans throat. How does any right thinking person hand over health care infrastructure/data to an indicted indian criminal???
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Githunguri on November 24, 2024, 10:38:34 PM
Riggy G remains the defacto leader of Centro and Gema at large. As long as he keeps spewing the truth nothing will change. Uhuru represent the past. People will cheer him but nobody will follow him politically only those that have benefitted directly like Mutahi kagwe, kioni or Murathe. Mostly political rejects. Ruto biggest fight now is with the church and it will only intensify as they continue to push Shif-Shah-Shit down kenyans throat. How does any right thinking person hand over health care infrastructure/data to an indicted indian criminal???
 

Precisely
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 24, 2024, 11:37:10 PM
Yes unless RiggyG was joining Jubilee and supporting Muhoho; Uhuru will back Ruto; and their assignment is to finish Gachagua; Ruto aim is to take Mt kenya east; he surely knows kikuyus are out; Uhuru job is to take Kikuyu votes and hand him over to the brother.Poor Gachagua will be under attack from 3 corners.

Ultimately Kenyattas want Muhoho somewhere in the politics.

I guess Mutahi Kagwe and Kioni have secured the two CS positions. Uhuru rejected Gachagua's call to help him fight Ruto towards 2027. Someone said he saw the text where Uhuru replied with a simple text message, "Not interested, I don't fight my brother."
Kenyan politics is very complex. It will keep you spinning worse than the intimidator roller coaster in the carolinas! I see Pauline Njoroge is already oozing pro-Ruto content, shocking the Twitter space!
Uhuru-Gachagua fight has already hit fever pitch. Gachagua has had a secret handshake with Ruto after Uhuru's shaky handshake. He has promised he will deliver a larger mountain than Uhuru. Whoever delivers the most will get an equivalent! The flower girls are now on a mission!
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 25, 2024, 02:02:30 AM
Gachagua and kikuyus are done with Ruto; That is basic; If Ruto is deluded about that; he will lose; For now he should play the games but focus elsewhere.
Uhuru-Gachagua fight has already hit fever pitch. Gachagua has had a secret handshake with Ruto after Uhuru's shaky handshake. He has promised he will deliver a larger mountain than Uhuru. Whoever delivers the most will get an equivalent! The flower girls are now on a mission!
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 25, 2024, 02:19:02 AM
Ruto made Gachagua a hero due to bad advice and hubris.. https://x.com/kenyans/status/1860730935236321681?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 25, 2024, 03:49:16 AM
Gachagua and kikuyus are done with Ruto; That is basic; If Ruto is deluded about that; he will lose; For now he should play the games but focus elsewhere.
Uhuru-Gachagua fight has already hit fever pitch. Gachagua has had a secret handshake with Ruto after Uhuru's shaky handshake. He has promised he will deliver a larger mountain than Uhuru. Whoever delivers the most will get an equivalent! The flower girls are now on a mission!
Don't underestimate Kenyans in following the Kingpin. If Gachagua holds the sway in 2026-2027 and his bought cheap, he will bring votes to Kenya Kwanza thuraku style! Only cheese talks, everything else is super bullshit!
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Githunguri on November 25, 2024, 07:03:29 AM
Gachagua and kikuyus are done with Ruto; That is basic; If Ruto is deluded about that; he will lose; For now he should play the games but focus elsewhere.
Uhuru-Gachagua fight has already hit fever pitch. Gachagua has had a secret handshake with Ruto after Uhuru's shaky handshake. He has promised he will deliver a larger mountain than Uhuru. Whoever delivers the most will get an equivalent! The flower girls are now on a mission!
Don't underestimate Kenyans in following the Kingpin. If Gachagua holds the sway in 2026-2027 and his bought cheap, he will bring votes to Kenya Kwanza thuraku style! Only cheese talks, everything else is super bullshit!

Thats correct.

If Ruto gives Gachagua 30BN,He will support his re-election bid.
We are dealing with thugs who only care about money.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 25, 2024, 07:52:21 AM
He will lose kikuyu vote n si will Ruto. Ruto has to know its over in kikuyu nation.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 25, 2024, 08:44:47 AM
Hate Kenyattas have for Gachagua will cause Kikuyus a permanent disaster that they wont recover from for years.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 25, 2024, 09:50:29 AM

GEMA actually which now also includes Kamba
He will lose kikuyu vote n si will Ruto. Ruto has to know its over in kikuyu nation.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: Nowayhaha on November 25, 2024, 09:53:37 AM

Kenyattas love for Raila cost them in 2022 . Kenyatta is now on limelight because he kinda predicted that Ruto will betray GEMA if he decides to continue supporting Raila or supports Ruto it will be back to 2022.
Gachagua is reaping sympathy votes but GEMAs presidential candidate who will win 2027 first round will be another person . Second round will depend who Ruto supports either GEMA candidate or Raila .

Hate Kenyattas have for Gachagua will cause Kikuyus a permanent disaster that they wont recover from for years.
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Pundit on November 25, 2024, 10:06:09 AM
No problem; GEMA yote pop wise is 30% of kenya; That leaves Ruto winning with 70%;
It almost silly not like Ruto and Raila;
That is just stupid at many levels.
GEMA actually which now also includes Kamba
Title: Re: Ruto Uhuru deal
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on November 25, 2024, 02:51:49 PM

Kenyattas love for Raila cost them in 2022 . Kenyatta is now on limelight because he kinda predicted that Ruto will betray GEMA if he decides to continue supporting Raila or supports Ruto it will be back to 2022.
Gachagua is reaping sympathy votes but GEMAs presidential candidate who will win 2027 first round will be another person . Second round will depend who Ruto supports either GEMA candidate or Raila .

Hate Kenyattas have for Gachagua will cause Kikuyus a permanent disaster that they wont recover from for years.
If GEMA brings another candidate, you will see an epic shift to Ruto, which will lead to 70/30 win for Ruto. I think GEMA supporting GENZ-driven candidate who is non GEMA will be tough for either Ruto or Raila. The problem is GEMA won't support another person unless it is their own. If they have to support non-GEMA, Ruto again, is their best bet!