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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on November 02, 2024, 05:51:53 AM
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This is psychotic thing to do. Kenyans especially kikuyus have gone quite. Unsure what to make of this turnaround of a man they supported because they wanted to embrace politics of inclusion.
It is a dark day that were back to an era where diplomats are now the referee. All institutions are muzzled. Today swearing ceremony was like that of kibaki on the night of December 2007. Where everyone immediately knew kibaki had violated the little trust people had in him.
Gachagua claims that he has survived two attempts on his life has really shaken people.
I don't think most kenyans will fight ruto. They will just keep quite. Watch him like they did with moi hope time will end his reign. Kenya is fucked for a longtime. However if you are an opportunist and a criminal get access to the power brokers and you I'll steal enough to last 3 of your generations
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Gachagua is one who attempted to assisinate Ruto.
This we have heard - way before the said posion attempts in Sept of 2024
And has been dealt with...very very softly. I think Ruto will have to finish him anyway.
Mt kenya wanted Kindiki in 2022
Ruto has given them back.
Kikuyus are taking the burden that doesnt belong to them.
The DO was always a mistake; nobody liked him; but everyone was tolerating him
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Ruto is trying to deal with his misdeeds particularly unfulfilled promises and economic policy miscalculations through politics which it by itself is a mistake .
By voting for Ruto it was a first time for GEMA having learnt from Uhuru that your tribe man doesnt necessarily benefit oneself.
Now he is trying to square them by bringing politics od division. . This will not work . Will only make the situation worse . GEMA will just go back to voting for their own . Thats what they have been doing since colonial times .
This is psychotic thing to do. Kenyans especially kikuyus have gone quite. Unsure what to make of this turnaround of a man they supported because they wanted to embrace politics of inclusion.
It is a dark day that were back to an era where diplomats are now the referee. All institutions are muzzled. Today swearing ceremony was like that of kibaki on the night of December 2007. Where everyone immediately knew kibaki had violated the little trust people had in him.
Gachagua claims that he has survived two attempts on his life has really shaken people.
I don't think most kenyans will fight ruto. They will just keep quite. Watch him like they did with moi hope time will end his reign. Kenya is fucked for a longtime. However if you are an opportunist and a criminal get access to the power brokers and you I'll steal enough to last 3 of your generations
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Gema cant win nothing on their own With 22% of the vote. Bhangi mbichi
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The other day you said GEMA is 15% then changed to 17% and now 22% Thats population wise I guess what is the voter number wise ?
What about GEMA in Cities are you counting them ?
Truth of the matter No political force can win it alone and this has been like this since independence even the time Moi was riggig however one aspect is truth GEMA has a starting advantage . Even from your so called figures they just need 28% to get to 50% + How much does the Kalenjin require ?
Gema cant win nothing on their own With 22% of the vote. Bhangi mbichi
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The other day you said GEMA is 15% then changed to 17% and now 22% Thats population wise I guess what is the voter number wise ?
What about GEMA in Cities are you counting them ?
Truth of the matter No political force can win it alone and this has been like this since independence even the time Moi was riggig however one aspect is truth GEMA has a starting advantage . Even from your so called figures they just need 28% to get to 50% + How much does the Kalenjin require ?
Gema cant win nothing on their own With 22% of the vote. Bhangi mbichi
Gema were 27/28 in 2013. 2017 25/26. In 2022 23/24. In 2027 22/23%. Turn out will vary Number. Their population in 2027 will be Kikuyu 15%. Merus 3.5%. Others 1%. Total 20%. Its demographic stupid. Kalenjin wako 14% pop. 15/16% voting wise.
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So According to you GEMA went from 28% in 2013 to 20% in 2022 . Was there Genocide or a War ?
Myths apart Fact is 49% of Rutos winning vote came from GEMA . He is starting minus that as we speak .
He knows he miscalculated and its an uphill task.
Preety much he will need to Back up GEMA in 2027
The other day you said GEMA is 15% then changed to 17% and now 22% Thats population wise I guess what is the voter number wise ?
What about GEMA in Cities are you counting them ?
Truth of the matter No political force can win it alone and this has been like this since independence even the time Moi was riggig however one aspect is truth GEMA has a starting advantage . Even from your so called figures they just need 28% to get to 50% + How much does the Kalenjin require ?
Gema cant win nothing on their own With 22% of the vote. Bhangi mbichi
Gema were 27/28 in 2013. 2017 25/26. In 2022 23/24. In 2027 22/23%. Turn out will vary Number. Their population in 2027 will be Kikuyu 15%. Merus 3.5%. Others 1%. Total 20%. Its demographic stupid. Kalenjin wako 14% pop. 15/16% voting wise.
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A simple question about ruto has been turned to tribal supremacy match. I am just asking what ruto is offering the millions of ordinary voters that supported him. What is he doing for them. Why is just ignoring their predicament. I see even in cbk they are back at the game of supporting kenya shs with borrowed funds. The thought reforms ruto promised would make the economy foundation strong and were worthy the sacrifice. Voters have extended him grace in turn he has continued fighting the political class and ignoring the promises he made. He has 3 years. If he carries on soon the new American administration and west will refuse to cosign budgetary support from imf
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Unga that cheap. Shif for everyone. Ndii is executing popular socialist policies. Like he did With free education With kibaki. Forget middle class n focus on the poor. Inflation is biggest problem for poor esp food. If they eat ugali they already Live you.. throw free education..free healthcare. Middle class are getting hit n intentionally so
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During UhuRuto tyranny of numbers in 2013 GEMA were 30%. It seems their numbers have nosedived dramatically since the fallout.
So According to you GEMA went from 28% in 2013 to 20% in 2022 . Was there Genocide or a War ?
Myths apart Fact is 49% of Rutos winning vote came from GEMA . He is starting minus that as we speak .
He knows he miscalculated and its an uphill task.
Preety much he will need to Back up GEMA in 2027
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Gachagua is one who attempted to assisinate Ruto.
oooliskia wapi??
And when you say ruto will have to finish gachagua what do you mean? with a bullet? I hope they both finish each other ruto first then gachagua second (one/two bullets)
Anyway, looks like a Kikuyu Kamba alliance is forming behind Kalonzo
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Anyone with a vision to get us to the size of one company in the USA has my vote. That’s not Ruto, he was not educated on growing things but taking, stealing as much as possible. Moi liked already built businesses, that’s the school of thought Ruto comes from, in the meantime, this is one company in USA .. https://x.com/investmattallen/status/1852732149457182790?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
I think Harvard has a bigger endowment that the Kenyan GDP at $110B. The sooner Kenyans realize how meager the peanuts they fight for are, they get serious and elect visionaries Like Kibaki and aim for productivity instead of stealing peanuts.
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During UhuRuto tyranny of numbers in 2013 GEMA were 30%. It seems their numbers have nosedived dramatically since the fallout.
So According to you GEMA went from 28% in 2013 to 20% in 2022 . Was there Genocide or a War ?
Myths apart Fact is 49% of Rutos winning vote came from GEMA . He is starting minus that as we speak .
He knows he miscalculated and its an uphill task.
Preety much he will need to Back up GEMA in 2027
30% is your theory ..
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During UhuRuto tyranny of numbers in 2013 GEMA were 30%. It seems their numbers have nosedived dramatically since the fallout.
So According to you GEMA went from 28% in 2013 to 20% in 2022 . Was there Genocide or a War ?
Myths apart Fact is 49% of Rutos winning vote came from GEMA . He is starting minus that as we speak .
He knows he miscalculated and its an uphill task.
Preety much he will need to Back up GEMA in 2027
30% is your theory ..
No it's not. Don't make me dig up MOAS 2013 Edition. GEMA are spoilt and entitled but remain the most cohesive and most organized demographic. If you corner them into merging with Kamba - this can only be checkmated by UDA-ODM that you cannot guarantee will happen.
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GEMA were 30% as recently as 2017 when it suited Ruto. Now they are shrinking at a rapid rate and will probably not turn out strongly at all.
2017 - Rough MOAS : Improving turn out in NASA stronghold won't help.
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=4383.0
Jubilee will retain it's bulwark of GEMA+Kalenjin which when you factor high registration + high turn out - gives Jubilee about 44%! - They only need to find 6% from the entire country.
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It’s Moi playbook of underplaying the Gema population, I think they also used to manipulate census numbers. It’s not going to work this time, the name Ruto is synonymous with poison in Mt Kenya. This is how bad it is, if it comes down to Raila vs Ruto, Mt Kenya will vote for Raila but that’s a little convoluted. The candidate that catches fire with genz, Gema, Kamba etc will win by noon.
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It’s Moi playbook of underplaying the Gema population, I think they also used to manipulate census numbers. It’s not going to work this time, the name Ruto is synonymous with poison in Mt Kenya. This is how bad it is, if it comes down to Raila vs Ruto, Mt Kenya will vote for Raila but that’s a little convoluted. The candidate that catches fire with genz, Gema, Kamba etc will win by noon.
Yeah BUT how does a candidate "catch fire"? Brains, cash, energy, etc. HARD WORK. Without it nothing but wishes.
It seems Morara Kebaso has already disappeared? Don't be naive; there will be no GenZ superstar. Only the politicians you know will be there.
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The only 30% in that thread I wrote is the turnout difference; GEMA/Kalenjin/Luos use to turn out at nearly 90% - against the rest at 60% - 30% gap - but that gap has been reducing --- maybe it was rigging too :)
GEMA+Kalenjin. That include Meru+Embus+Tharakas+Mbeeres. That was figure before 2013 - on account of registered votes and most likely to turn up.Other ethnic did improve their turn out game in 2013 - and gap reduce to less than 10% from the usual more than 30%. For instance previously about 55-60% of Luhyas/Gusii would turn up compared to 90% of Luo/Kalenjin/GEMA.
Quote from: Globalcitizen12 on May 28, 2017, 06:38:40 PM
GEMA were 30% as recently as 2017 when it suited Ruto. Now they are shrinking at a rapid rate and will probably not turn out strongly at all.
2017 - Rough MOAS : Improving turn out in NASA stronghold won't help.
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=4383.0
Jubilee will retain it's bulwark of GEMA+Kalenjin which when you factor high registration + high turn out - gives Jubilee about 44%! - They only need to find 6% from the entire country.
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GEMA can and will be split by Kindiki - if Ruto goes ahead with him.
GEMA demographic has been on steady decline since it high of 1989 - with low births.
They had advantage of more adults than kids - but again that is declining annually - as other regions catch up.
Turnout game - the difference has now reduced to 10% - GEMA/Kalenjin/Luos - now doing 70-75%
Against the 60% from rest of country.
Previously we had 90% turnout - from those regions.
Last year - I think mt kenya was barely 72% - kalenjin areas was 78% - Luos were down to 70%.
So again work with GEMA being roughly 25% at best/highest with high turnout.
At worse it less than that.
No it's not. Don't make me dig up MOAS 2013 Edition. GEMA are spoilt and entitled but remain the most cohesive and most organized demographic. If you corner them into merging with Kamba - this can only be checkmated by UDA-ODM that you cannot guarantee will happen.
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I am not naive to think the Moraras of this world will become president but I think they can make a lot of inroads in parliament, senate and local elections. This will be a start, the GenZs have one advantage, time. They can wait for these guys to drop dead or go to jail. For now, their goal should be to recapture parliament, senate and local elections but in 2027, I am assuming they will support someone like Kalonzo as a transition candidate. The goal right now is to get Ruto and Raila out of our politics, the way foward can be negotiated after the elections. A candidate like Kalonzo/Matiangi, Kalonzo/Omtatah etc can really catch fire but three years is a lifetime in politics. The only thing I know 100% is that Ruto is dead in Mt Kenya and the stupidity of it all is that no one even really liked Gachagua in Mt Kenya, he is considered more of a laughable court jester. Ruto could have found ways of completely isolating him, anyone with a brain knew that Mudavadi was actually the DP but Ruto through stupidity, hubris or bad advice decided to make him a hero. Mt Kenya is now seething mad in silence, they are steaming about the betrayal and on top of it the insults ati sijui villagers etc. I happened to attend a mt Kenya diaspora event this weekend, I was laughing on the inside at how mad these people are, Ruto better make sure diaspora does not vote, he will not get a single mt Kenya vote from the diaspora and its a huge constituency.
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I am not naive to think the Moraras of this world will become president but I think they can make a lot of inroads in parliament, senate and local elections. This will be a start, the GenZs have one advantage, time. They can wait for these guys to drop dead or go to jail. For now, their goal should be to recapture parliament, senate and local elections but in 2027, I am assuming they will support someone like Kalonzo as a transition candidate. The goal right now is to get Ruto and Raila out of our politics, the way foward can be negotiated after the elections. A candidate like Kalonzo/Matiangi, Kalonzo/Omtatah etc can really catch fire but three years is a lifetime in politics. The only thing I know 100% is that Ruto is dead in Mt Kenya and the stupidity of it all is that no one even really liked Gachagua in Mt Kenya, he is considered more of a laughable court jester. Ruto could have found ways of completely isolating him, anyone with a brain knew that Mudavadi was actually the DP but Ruto through stupidity, hubris or bad advice decided to make him a hero. Mt Kenya is now seething mad in silence, they are steaming about the betrayal and on top of it the insults ati sijui villagers etc. I happened to attend a mt Kenya diaspora event this weekend, I was laughing on the inside at how mad these people are, Ruto better make sure diaspora does not vote, he will not get a single mt Kenya vote from the diaspora and its a huge constituency.
Riggy problem is how to shepherd Mt Kenya away from Ruto's attempts at division via Kindiki. Because he lacks 1)non-Gema clout or national following and 2)adequate finances, he will be tempted to sell them to Raila.
One thing going for Riggy is that Kindiki is not Kiraitu but a spineless Tharaka dwarf who couldn't take on mere Muthomi Njuki. Riggy's real enemy remains Ruto.
GenZ would only rally behind a promising campaign that Riggy and Kalonzo lack the wherewithal to mount and are not a bankable constituency.
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Robina, once youre deputy president With chance to be president anytime, n most likely in 2023, the game changes for kindiki. Youll see mt kenya east back the dwarf. Then Ruto knows how to sell n market him. Once all the mcas , mps, senators, n governors in 3 counties agree to back him then people will follow the cue. Mt kenya east faultlines With kikuyus will become huge pretty soon. For now the mt kenya east are still weighing.
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RiggyG, going through the opposite effects, without his office he is nothing. They are going to leave him isolated. TV shows yesterday were cancelled. The last of his supporters in mps n senators will slowly abandon him. He will have to join kalonzo bandwagon but unlike kalonzo,wamalwa n martha With few skletons the moment he talks bad...his assets will be frozen n corruption cases opened. Now he has daggers over his head.
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Riggy has already done his job, he has made Ruto a stinky mess in Mt Kenya. He has made Mpigs in central cower in fear with careers destroyed. All he now has to do is back someone like Kalonzo and it’s a deal done. Anything done by Ruto to Gachagua from here will be considered retaliation and will even make mt Kenya crazier. I also think that the next election will not be about money, people like Morara are threatening to topple the government with peanuts from mama mbogas. If it comes down to money, mt Kenya has plenty of money, that’s not a big problem.
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You over-estimate kikuyus - 17% of pop in 2009 - now should be 15% or less. You'll soon discover kenya ni kubwa.
Riggy has already done his job, he has made Ruto a stinky mess in Mt Kenya. He has made Mpigs in central cower in fear with careers destroyed. All he now has to do is back someone like Kalonzo and it’s a deal done. Anything done by Ruto to Gachagua from here will be considered retaliation and will even make mt Kenya crazier. I also think that the next election will not be about money, people like Morara are threatening to topple the government with peanuts from mama mbogas. If it comes down to money, mt Kenya has plenty of money, that’s not a big problem.
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RiggyG, going through the opposite effects, without his office he is nothing. They are going to leave him isolated. TV shows yesterday were cancelled. The last of his supporters in mps n senators will slowly abandon him. He will have to join kalonzo bandwagon but unlike kalonzo,wamalwa n martha With few skletons the moment he talks bad...his assets will be frozen n corruption cases opened. Now he has daggers over his head.
It really depends on how good a player Riggy becomes. He can seize the moment or fade into the oblivion. Persecution would have the opposite effect as we saw when Uhuru froze his cash and prosecuted him.
I am not saying I have full confidence in his game but he has nothing to lose so let's see.
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My Kenya cannot win a presidential election alone but you cannot win presidency without Mt Kenya. It’s also scary when you combine mt Kenya, Kambas, Kisiis, genZ, and other disaffected Kenyans. That’s a scary constituency. One thing about Kikuyus is that they always come in large numbers to fight for what is right. This is why they are now mostly on GenZ bandwagon, a lot of Kikuyus stop being tribal when economy and freedoms are threatened. This is why Ruto became president, also the reason they like Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Morara etc deep inside, most Kikuyus would rather see a fair and free country.
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RiggyG was part of big team under Ruto.
This is time he either create his own team - he has serious personal weakness or character flaw - and cant do this.
Or join Kalonzo bandwagon or kenyatta.
I think he will prefer Kalonzo - if he goes back to being Kenyatta PA - he has lost
It really depends on how good a player Riggy becomes. He can seize the moment or fade into the oblivion. Persecution would have the opposite effect as we saw when Uhuru froze his cash and prosecuted him.
I am not saying I have full confidence in his game but he has nothing to lose so let's see.
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Eti you cannot win presidency without Mt kenya - is that a mathematical fact or make believe nonsense.
My Kenya cannot win a presidential election alone but you cannot win presidency without Mt Kenya. It’s also scary when you combine mt Kenya, Kambas, Kisiis, genZ, and other disaffected Kenyans. That’s a scary constituency. One thing about Kikuyus is that they always come in large numbers to fight for what is right. This is why they are now mostly on GenZ bandwagon, a lot of Kikuyus stop being tribal when economy and freedoms are threatened. This is why Ruto became president, also the reason they like Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Morara etc deep inside, most Kikuyus would rather see a fair and free country.
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Only Moi type rigging, Mt Kenya and friends is scary. It scares me that they are really quiet. That’s a big and monied constituency. I think yo are soon going to realize how scary that is, it’s a kale wake up call. I am not even a mt Kenya supremacist, I believe in supremacy of ideas and not numbers but that’s a scary constituency.
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Ruto is definitely not scared - and fired RIGGY who was making similar arguments. 2027 you'll be crying. Win first Nairobi governorship.
Only Moi type rigging, Mt Kenya and friends is scary. It scares me that they are really quiet. That’s a big and monied constituency. I think yo are soon going to realize how scary that is, it’s a kale wake up call. I am not even a mt Kenya supremacist, I believe in supremacy of ideas and not numbers but that’s a scary constituency.
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Since February, he has been scared shitless. Time is ticking even for him.
Ruto is definitely not scared - and fired RIGGY who was making similar arguments. 2027 you'll be crying. Win first Nairobi governorship.
Only Moi type rigging, Mt Kenya and friends is scary. It scares me that they are really quiet. That’s a big and monied constituency. I think yo are soon going to realize how scary that is, it’s a kale wake up call. I am not even a mt Kenya supremacist, I believe in supremacy of ideas and not numbers but that’s a scary constituency.
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3yrs is enough time to figure out something. He is career politician.
Since February, he has been scared shitless. Time is ticking even for him.
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A good point that Pundit creates his own “facts” He will retire from Nipate come 2027 as Ruto will loose
GEMA were 30% as recently as 2017 when it suited Ruto. Now they are shrinking at a rapid rate and will probably not turn out strongly at all.
2017 - Rough MOAS : Improving turn out in NASA stronghold won't help.
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=4383.0
Jubilee will retain it's bulwark of GEMA+Kalenjin which when you factor high registration + high turn out - gives Jubilee about 44%! - They only need to find 6% from the entire country.
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I shared my data and my reasoning
GEMA population is dropping every decade.
Then turnout and registration is key - last election turn out was down almost 20% in Mt Kenya.
That affect your total votes.
Get to program.
My data and MOASS iko hapa.
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A good point that Pundit creates his own “facts” He will retire from Nipate come 2027 as Ruto will loose
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My Kenya cannot win a presidential election alone but you cannot win presidency without Mt Kenya. It’s also scary when you combine mt Kenya, Kambas, Kisiis, genZ, and other disaffected Kenyans. That’s a scary constituency. *One thing about Kikuyus is that they always come in large numbers to fight for what is right*. This is why they are now mostly on GenZ bandwagon, *a lot of Kikuyus stop being tribal when economy and freedoms are threatened*. This is why Ruto became president, also the reason they like Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Morara etc deep inside, most Kikuyus would rather see a fair and free country.
I rarely comment on politics but these statements are simply not true and you know it, blo. Nationalists among us like Njamba and yourself are extreme outliers ritru mbit ritru mbit. We are in fact the most tribalistic community in Kwiinya by far, and history has borne us out. After we got the big seat in 1963, we systematically looted all the departing msungu lands. Under the settlement scheme handshakes as well as the 100 acre Z plots programmes, as well as all the beach lands, which had to be signed personally by Jomo in every single case of sale or transfer. In other words we thought Kwiinya was ours and greedily refused to share. Cabinet meetings back then were sometimes held in shortwave to keep the other tribes clueless on sensitive matters that benefitted us. Soon, we took out Pinto. We took out Kodhek. Took out Tom: who worked brilliantly for us to clip Raila Senior's wings. Did you forget that in the aftermath of Tom's death we collectively took an oath not to let the "blank necks" ever taste State House? We then took out one of our own -JM due to our own internal power struggles. Then came Kihika and the movement - tribal as ever - trying to stop the so called passing cloud and limping lead goat from tasting Statehouse, which we felt was our birthright. Was that not pure tribalism? We even inspected his anus for guns at a roadblock on the way to Kabarak. Regular slapping of the man by his juniors right in front of Jomo was the norm. There was no fighting for freedom and the economy blah blah blah there. Hiyo irikuwa tribalism and arrogance tupu. Then came the Duke of Kabeteshire as de facto president after that fateful night in Aug 1978. Yes, the same man who said he could not shake the hand of a "blank neck" for cholera's sake! Is that not tribalism? He would even overrule decisions taken at Statehouse between 1978 and 1982. In fact in diplomatic circles, it was commonly understood that the Duke of Kabeteshire's office is where the buck stopped. What many Kwiinyans do not know is that the official reading of the so called 82 coup was that it was to pre-empt his well organized one that was to happen the same week under the command of the GSU, after the army was conveniently sent to Lodwar for "training exercises". Tribalism tupu. Then came the msaliti chorus. As you well know, the inquiry showed that the man told the President's friends to their faces that his (the president's) people were good at herding cattle but not at taking care of human beings. Tribalism, chauvinism and hubris tupu. Fast forward to 2002. When we took the seat again did we fight for freedom and blah blah? Nope! Once again we refused to share! Is that not tribalism in purest form? Trashing MoUs, setting up a mafia, trying to ram in a constitution to suit our selfish needs? Is that not why the referendum was lost? The rest is history, blathee. Laira became the ultimate Boogeyman just like his papa was in the 60s. All you had to say was ngweh Raira! and all the GEMA votes were on your side. Most of us voted against Raira and not for our candidate per se. Even if our candidate would have been a thenge, it would get our votes almost to a man as long as it was running against Raira. In other words, it has been a tribalistic protest vote against Raira ever since. This is why I say the man from Sugoi is a genius. He crept stealthily stealthily huyooo under Muthamaki's skirt, being careful not to pinch said Muthamaki's balls too much. He figured out that the Laira side is always the side that we would always vote against in tribal solidarity for historical reasons. He harnessed that tribalism skwaaa in a super brilliant manner and the rest is history. We are now in the cold whining in the wind the way Raira did for decades while Raira is busy eating with a big spoon in the heart of gafment. Kwiinya is a very interesting, tribalistic kaundry and we are now tasting our own bitter medicine because we are the originators and experts of the same. Isapite. Gen-z are non starters. They had their owners who used them skilfully then dumped them to rot after the job was done. They can't even elect their own leader let alone form a political party. Memes and stoning cars do not win elections. Zero impact they will have in 2027. Kaloi can barely run a cattle dip let alone a kaundry. Riggy G is a political comedian at best. Face it gathee, we are screwed. But we deserve it if our collective political actions of the past 60 years are anything to go by. WSR will rule us for the full decade, so let's stop all the kelele minki minki. Remember he has the monopoly of violence in the armed forces just like we did in decades past. Very difficult to remove him from office. We had our turn for 50 years and blew it every single time with our greed, hubris and unwillingness to share. Nobady will ever vote for us again.
Ni hayo tu.
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My Kenya cannot win a presidential election alone but you cannot win presidency without Mt Kenya. It’s also scary when you combine mt Kenya, Kambas, Kisiis, genZ, and other disaffected Kenyans. That’s a scary constituency. *One thing about Kikuyus is that they always come in large numbers to fight for what is right*. This is why they are now mostly on GenZ bandwagon, *a lot of Kikuyus stop being tribal when economy and freedoms are threatened*. This is why Ruto became president, also the reason they like Kalonzo, Wamalwa, Morara etc deep inside, most Kikuyus would rather see a fair and free country.
I rarely comment on politics but these statements are simply not true and you know it, blo. Nationalists among us like Njamba and yourself are extreme outliers ritru mbit ritru mbit. We are in fact the most tribalistic community in Kwiinya by far, and history has borne us out. After we got the big seat in 1963, we systematically looted all the departing msungu lands. Under the settlement scheme handshakes as well as the 100 acre Z plots programmes, as well as all the beach lands, which had to be signed personally by Jomo in every single case of sale or transfer. In other words we thought Kwiinya was ours and greedily refused to share. Cabinet meetings back then were sometimes held in shortwave to keep the other tribes clueless on sensitive matters that benefitted us. Soon, we took out Pinto. We took out Kodhek. Took out Tom: who worked brilliantly for us to clip Raila Senior's wings. Did you forget that in the aftermath of Tom's death we collectively took an oath not to let the "blank necks" ever taste State House? We then took out one of our own -JM due to our own internal power struggles. Then came Kihika and the movement - tribal as ever - trying to stop the so called passing cloud and limping lead goat from tasting Statehouse, which we felt was our birthright. Was that not pure tribalism? We even inspected his anus for guns at a roadblock on the way to Kabarak. Regular slapping of the man by his juniors right in front of Jomo was the norm. There was no fighting for freedom and the economy blah blah blah there. Hiyo irikuwa tribalism and arrogance tupu. Then came the Duke of Kabeteshire as de facto president after that fateful night in Aug 1978. Yes, the same man who said he could not shake the hand of a "blank neck" for cholera's sake! Is that not tribalism? He would even overrule decisions taken at Statehouse between 1978 and 1982. In fact in diplomatic circles, it was commonly understood that the Duke of Kabeteshire's office is where the buck stopped. What many Kwiinyans do not know is that the official reading of the so called 82 coup was that it was to pre-empt his well organized one that was to happen the same week under the command of the GSU, after the army was conveniently sent to Lodwar for "training exercises". Tribalism tupu. Then came the msaliti chorus. As you well know, the inquiry showed that the man told the President's friends to their faces that his (the president's) people were good at herding cattle but not at taking care of human beings. Tribalism, chauvinism and hubris tupu. Fast forward to 2002. When we took the seat again did we fight for freedom and blah blah? Nope! Once again we refused to share! Is that not tribalism in purest form? Trashing MoUs, setting up a mafia, trying to ram in a constitution to suit our selfish needs? Is that not why the referendum was lost? The rest is history, blathee. Laira became the ultimate Boogeyman just like his papa was in the 60s. All you had to say was ngweh Raira! and all the GEMA votes were on your side. Most of us voted against Raira and not for our candidate per se. Even if our candidate would have been a thenge, it would get our votes almost to a man as long as it was running against Raira. In other words, it has been a tribalistic protest vote against Raira ever since. This is why I say the man from Sugoi is a genius. He crept stealthily stealthily huyooo under Muthamaki's skirt, being careful not to pinch said Muthamaki's balls too much. He figured out that the Laira side is always the side that we would always vote against in tribal solidarity for historical reasons. He harnessed that tribalism skwaaa in a super brilliant manner and the rest is history. We are now in the cold whining in the wind the way Raira did for decades while Raira is busy eating with a big spoon in the heart of gafment. Kwiinya is a very interesting, tribalistic kaundry and we are now tasting our own bitter medicine because we are the originators and experts of the same. Isapite. Gen-z are non starters. They had their owners who used them skilfully then dumped them to rot after the job was done. They can't even elect their own leader let alone form a political party. Memes and stoning cars do not win elections. Zero impact they will have in 2027. Kaloi can barely run a cattle dip let alone a kaundry. Riggy G is a political comedian at best. Face it gathee, we are screwed. But we deserve it if our collective political actions of the past 60 years are anything to go by. WSR will rule us for the full decade, so let's stop all the kelele minki minki. Remember he has the monopoly of violence in the armed forces just like we did in decades past. Very difficult to remove him from office. We had our turn for 50 years and blew it every single time with our greed, hubris and unwillingness to share. Nobady will ever vote for us again.
Ni hayo tu.
In Amelica, we'd say 'that is some funny shit laced in truth'. Please stop killing the aging nationalists that have 1980s mindset. Ruto in political world is simply google while the rest are Aol! I see a future where in 6-7 years of Ruto's Presidency GEMA will circle back and be pro Ruto because of the steady hand and economic boom forming in the background. Ruto is not like GEMA leaders or Uhuru types, or any tribalist Kenyan. He wants 100% of Kenya to benefit collectively.
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Gachagua is one who attempted to assisinate Ruto.
This we have heard - way before the said posion attempts in Sept of 2024
And has been dealt with...very very softly. I think Ruto will have to finish him anyway.
Mt kenya wanted Kindiki in 2022
Ruto has given them back.
Kikuyus are taking the burden that doesnt belong to them.
The DO was always a mistake; nobody liked him; but everyone was tolerating him
You want me to pull out all your posts where you were praising Gachagua to almost the level where he was like best thing since sliced bread? Ama you have deleted them already?
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Lol , he used to say Gachagua is kiboko ya Uhuru and Raila ….
Pundit is in a very tight situation he very well knows that Ruto is a gone case but he acts like the proverbial Ostrich ….
Remember at the onset of the Genz Protests and still Pundit chesthumping that Ruto will rule Kenya forever , Ruto is now Africans President the new Meles Zenawi ………. This guy is nuts
Gachagua is one who attempted to assisinate Ruto.
This we have heard - way before the said posion attempts in Sept of 2024
And has been dealt with...very very softly. I think Ruto will have to finish him anyway.
Mt kenya wanted Kindiki in 2022
Ruto has given them back.
Kikuyus are taking the burden that doesnt belong to them.
The DO was always a mistake; nobody liked him; but everyone was tolerating him
You want me to pull out all your posts where you were praising Gachagua to almost the level where he was like best thing since sliced bread? Ama you have deleted them already?
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Gachagua is one who attempted to assisinate Ruto.
This we have heard - way before the said posion attempts in Sept of 2024
And has been dealt with...very very softly. I think Ruto will have to finish him anyway.
Mt kenya wanted Kindiki in 2022
Ruto has given them back.
Kikuyus are taking the burden that doesnt belong to them.
The DO was always a mistake; nobody liked him; but everyone was tolerating him
You want me to pull out your posts where you were selling us snake oil on this fellow ama you already deleted them?
Pale mwisho, it is him they finished. With friends like RV Pundit & his Yesu, who needs enemies??
This is you and your brother:
Gachagua, the DO is what Kenya needs. The fact that he has never tasted alcohol, loves his wife, and has successful kids, like DP is significant boost to UDA. DP made the right call picking him!
You will also be arraigned in court for oppressing the poor people of Kimende.
Gachagua will deal with you.
Wacha ile alikuwa DO....bado unalia 30yrs later eti DO DO DO :)
He will be DPORK
Gachagau knows all the kenyattas and their weakness...he will finish them with Miguna Miguna.
Ruto will be busy with other important stuff..
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Gachagua stupidity cant be blamed on Ruto and his supporters.
Ruto trusted him.
He attempted to kill him so he can be president.
He is luckly to be alive.
I still see Ruto dealing with him in due course.
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Upuzi…….
Gachagua stupidity cant be blamed on Ruto and his supporters.
Ruto trusted him.
He attempted to kill him so he can be president.
He is luckly to be alive.
I still see Ruto dealing with him in due course.