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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on October 07, 2024, 02:11:18 PM

Title: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on October 07, 2024, 02:11:18 PM
Ruto already lost kenyan youths who are the majority,He has now lost the GEMA community through Gachagua impeachment,Kambas are with Kalonzo,He is now at the mercy of Raila who has nothing to lose.The GEMA Luo Kamba luhya are the majority in Nairobi Nakuru Eldoret Kakamega Kisumu Mombasa Machakos.They are also the majority in all government institutions combined.Once they wage protests against Ruto in 2025,Kenyans will protest to the gates of statehouse and parliament will have no option but to impeach him or he resigns.He will then be accompanied by cases.He may even run to exile.People lile Murkomen Kindiki Ichungwa will be jailed and bankrupted.Kenyans who are affected by ADANI SHIF UNIVERSITY FINANCING HOUSING LEVY G2G EJK AND ABDUCTIONS will join these protests.Its over.

Let Raila finish the game.Impeaching Gachagua was a dumb move.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 07, 2024, 02:12:21 PM
Read about 1990s and how Moi easily won elections.
Kenya ni Kubwa.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 07, 2024, 02:13:01 PM
For example Kalenjin +Somalis is already equal to GEMA almost (18-20%)
Ruto auction DPORK for someone with 10-15% - luhya or luo or kamba
Let say Ruto give Luhya maDVD who work with Weta and Oparanya to secure the whole of western - 15%
That is already 35%.
Then you collect 1-2% from Maa, turkana, mijikenda etc - 10%.

You are already 45%.

5% - sio hiyo unarig tu:)

NO Ralla. No Kalonzo. No GEMA.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on October 07, 2024, 02:19:33 PM
For example Kalenjin +Somalis is already equal to GEMA almost (18-20%)
Ruto auction DPORK for someone with 10-15% - luhya or luo or kamba
Let say Ruto give Luhya maDVD who work with Weta and Oparanya to secure the whole of western - 15%
That is already 35%.
Then you collect 1-2% from Maa, turkana, mijikenda etc - 10%.

You are already 45%.

5% - sio hiyo unarig tu:)

NO Ralla. No Kalonzo. No GEMA.

Guess work.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 07, 2024, 02:19:51 PM
Kikuyus/GEMA will most likely Kalonzo instead of baba thus Noway says Ruto will be numero 3 after Baba.
But it will be more interesting as Ruto tries to split mulima he literally has to pour billions in Meru to split them in addition to Deputy president which he cant afford
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on October 07, 2024, 02:27:47 PM
Kikuyus/GEMA will most likely Kalonzo instead of baba thus Noway says Ruto will be numero 3 after Baba.
But it will be more interesting as Ruto tries to split mulima he literally has to pour billions in Meru to split them in addition to Deputy president which he cant afford

Precisely.

2027-Kalonzo and Rigathi coalition has a guaranteed 120MPs & Women Reps,16 Senators and governors if the elections were held today.They are also past 5MN votes.They need either Mudavadi or 50% Somali to win presidency and parliament.

2) If Raila will be on the ballot,He still maintains his support in Coast Western and Nyanza which places him second with 70-80MPs.

3) Ruto becomes number 3 in 2027 election.

Because of the above,Raila may team up with kalonzo and Rigathi to wage protests against Ruto and eject him from statehouse which leaves two players in a snap election,kalonzo and Raila.Chances of Ruto regime lasting to 2027 are 0%.Its game over.

Whatever Sudi Faruk Ichungwa Sakaja were advising him is just silly.He should have stuck with Gachagua.Raila and Jaluo will exploit and cause him sleepless nights.His blood pressure,sugar and adrenaline will cause him poor health,He will be dealing with akina kajwang and Otis who are very unpredictable with crazy demands.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 07, 2024, 02:33:32 PM
So kikuyus are smart - but everyone else will split their votes. Wacha kichaa. Raila will not run for its sake when he can get 50% of GOK and retain AU chaiperson.
Kikuyus/GEMA will most likely Kalonzo instead of baba thus Noway says Ruto will be numero 3 after Baba.
But it will be more interesting as Ruto tries to split mulima he literally has to pour billions in Meru to split them in addition to Deputy president which he cant afford
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 07, 2024, 02:35:46 PM
Desperate logic.

Yaani people will leave sure-bet deals in GOK to run to opposition to negotiate the same or worse deal?

It easy to bring Kalonzo to become Ruto DPORK than have Raila or maDVD go deputize Kalonzo - then share with GEMA - little position left.

Ruto is the 1) Incumbent 2) Has DPORK to sell and 2032 sure-bet and 3) IEBC will be his.

How does he lose election>

Kikuyus/GEMA will most likely Kalonzo instead of baba thus Noway says Ruto will be numero 3 after Baba.
But it will be more interesting as Ruto tries to split mulima he literally has to pour billions in Meru to split them in addition to Deputy president which he cant afford

Precisely.

2027-Kalonzo and Rigathi coalition has a guaranteed 120MPs & Women Reps,16 Senators and governors if the elections were held today.They are also past 5MN votes.They need either Mudavadi or 50% Somali to win presidency and parliament.

2) If Raila will be on the ballot,He still maintains his support in Coast Western and Nyanza which places him second with 70-80MPs.

3) Ruto becomes number 3 in 2027 election.

Because of the above,Raila may team up with kalonzo and Rigathi to wage protests against Ruto and eject him from statehouse which leaves two players in a snap election,kalonzo and Raila.Chances of Ruto regime lasting to 2027 are 0%.Its game over.

Whatever Sudi Faruk Ichungwa Sakaja were advising him is just silly.He should have stuck with Gachagua.Raila and Jaluo will exploit and cause him sleepless nights.His blood pressure,sugar and adrenaline will cause him poor health,He will be dealing with akina kajwang and Otis who are very unpredictable with crazy demands.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 07, 2024, 03:00:08 PM
2.5 years in Kenyan politics is eternity. No one knew we'd be here just the other day. For now, the President don't have the votes, but he has three Key things. 10X Dangote Money, Supreme Court, and IEBC!
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 07, 2024, 05:26:39 PM
Raila will lose AU, that’s a guarantee and he actually knows it. He will come back Kama simba amenyeshewa and try to beg Kamba, Gema, Kisiis, the people he is sending goons to beat up to vote for him. Have you noticed that it’s the Kisiis leading the fight for good governance? Raila saw another opportunity to miss and he couldn’t resist missing it by a mile, he is now even more hated than Ruto after his goons beat up Morara with impunity during a public participation gathering. I want them to impeach Gachagua, the anger will be enough to give us completely new faces in parliament, senate and presidency which is what Kenyans have been yearning for. Ruto’s money cannot help him, it’s not about money anymore, the capital is anger. If he tries to manipulate the IEBC and elections, he will be removed from the state house and paraded in the streets, better take his stolen loot and run to exile.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: patel on October 07, 2024, 05:29:53 PM
Moi never won any elections in Kenya. He stole.
Read about 1990s and how Moi easily won elections.
Kenya ni Kubwa.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on October 08, 2024, 12:27:57 AM
Moi never won any elections in Kenya. He stole.
Read about 1990s and how Moi easily won elections.
Kenya ni Kubwa.

Nowadays you cant win with 30% like Moi,You need 50%+1.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 05:52:09 AM
Try to get 30% first with Kalonzo.
Moi never won any elections in Kenya. He stole.
Read about 1990s and how Moi easily won elections.
Kenya ni Kubwa.

Nowadays you cant win with 30% like Moi,You need 50%+1.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 07:31:33 AM


Even Ruto in 2027 will struggle getting 20% leave allne 30%
As we speak Ruto and Kalonzo are in the same league . Minor leagues ……
Try to get 30% first with Kalonzo.
Moi never won any elections in Kenya. He stole.
Read about 1990s and how Moi easily won elections.
Kenya ni Kubwa.

Nowadays you cant win with 30% like Moi,You need 50%+1.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 07:36:39 AM


Only if you were Raila you would say that . Truth be told he will nit win AUC and just like his father will run in 2027 in his old age

So kikuyus are smart - but everyone else will split their votes. Wacha kichaa. Raila will not run for its sake when he can get 50% of GOK and retain AU chaiperson.
Kikuyus/GEMA will most likely Kalonzo instead of baba thus Noway says Ruto will be numero 3 after Baba.
But it will be more interesting as Ruto tries to split mulima he literally has to pour billions in Meru to split them in addition to Deputy president which he cant afford
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 08:59:19 AM
1) RiggyG will be impeached
2) Raila will win AUC
3) Ruto win re-election.

Learn to cope.


Only if you were Raila you would say that . Truth be told he will nit win AUC and just like his father will run in 2027 in his old age

Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 09:23:32 AM
Im for Rigathi getting impeached so that it weakens Ruto.
Raila will not win AUC and Ruto will be No 3 if he makes it to 2027 .
As everyone is telling you its you to accept the reality .
So according to you impeaching Gachagua will be beneficial to Ruto ? Explain …


1) RiggyG will be impeached
2) Raila will win AUC
3) Ruto win re-election.

Learn to cope.


Only if you were Raila you would say that . Truth be told he will nit win AUC and just like his father will run in 2027 in his old age

Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 09:51:27 AM
Explain how Raila lose AUC :) HOW NOW?

RiggyG is someone trying to kill Ruto to become President.

He needs to go. Then be Jailed, bankrupted, weaken, etc. This the start of his problems.

By 2027 - he will be shadow of himself - because Kenyatta will not allow him to run Mt kenya.

Kenyattas want be be Kikuyu Muthamaki again.

Im for Rigathi getting impeached so that it weakens Ruto.
Raila will not win AUC and Ruto will be No 3 if he makes it to 2027 .
As everyone is telling you its you to accept the reality .
So according to you impeaching Gachagua will be beneficial to Ruto ? Explain …


1) RiggyG will be impeached
2) Raila will win AUC
3) Ruto win re-election.

Learn to cope.


Only if you were Raila you would say that . Truth be told he will nit win AUC and just like his father will run in 2027 in his old age

Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nefertiti on October 08, 2024, 10:39:07 AM
Raila and Kalonzo will not agree to deputize nor re-elect Ruto. They were already VP and PM, are old, and don't even trust him. Their dying wish is to be president.

Ruto choice is down to Mdvd and Gema.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
Kalonzo could - its 5yrs only - and it more assured way in 2032.

Esp if they will overlook Kalonzo again?

Raila and Kalonzo will not agree to deputize nor re-elect Ruto. They were already VP and PM, are old, and don't even trust him. Their dying wish is to be president.

Ruto choice is down to Mdvd and Gema.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 12:09:56 PM

If Gachagua gets impeached the DP position will be useless . How will Kalonzo accept DP position knowing well he will be impeached.
You people are pathetic . These mistakes are usually costly and unrecoverable . Uou think Raila losing 2007 is by sheer bad luck Nop its miscalculations which is what is happening to Ruto culminating in him becoming No 3 in 2027 .

Kalonzo could - its 5yrs only - and it more assured way in 2032.

Esp if they will overlook Kalonzo again?

Raila and Kalonzo will not agree to deputize nor re-elect Ruto. They were already VP and PM, are old, and don't even trust him. Their dying wish is to be president.

Ruto choice is down to Mdvd and Gema.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 12:12:27 PM

You see where tou wrong .All your calculations are pegged on Raila winning AUC . Now lets break it in simple terms . Explain what would happen in Kenyan political scene if Raila was to lose AUC Chair .

Explain how Raila lose AUC :) HOW NOW?

RiggyG is someone trying to kill Ruto to become President.

He needs to go. Then be Jailed, bankrupted, weaken, etc. This the start of his problems.

By 2027 - he will be shadow of himself - because Kenyatta will not allow him to run Mt kenya.

Kenyattas want be be Kikuyu Muthamaki again.

Im for Rigathi getting impeached so that it weakens Ruto.
Raila will not win AUC and Ruto will be No 3 if he makes it to 2027 .
As everyone is telling you its you to accept the reality .
So according to you impeaching Gachagua will be beneficial to Ruto ? Explain …


1) RiggyG will be impeached
2) Raila will win AUC
3) Ruto win re-election.

Learn to cope.


Only if you were Raila you would say that . Truth be told he will nit win AUC and just like his father will run in 2027 in his old age

Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 12:16:33 PM
Without AUC - ODM has 30% of gov appointment - he will likely sit back,eat from gov and wait for 2026/2027 - election cycle.
You see where tou wrong .All your calculations are pegged on Raila winning AUC . Now lets break it in simple terms . Explain what would happen in Kenyan political scene if Raila was to lose AUC Chair .
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 01:43:38 PM
30% is enough for Raila and ODM and why not go for 100% and if it fails negotiate for 50 % CS and PS , Current 3CS without any PS is bullshit and they know it .
Ruto will be No 3 come 2027

Without AUC - ODM has 30% of gov appointment - he will likely sit back,eat from gov and wait for 2026/2027 - election cycle.
You see where tou wrong .All your calculations are pegged on Raila winning AUC . Now lets break it in simple terms . Explain what would happen in Kenyan political scene if Raila was to lose AUC Chair .
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2024, 02:18:08 PM
Raila got 7 cs. He still waiting
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2024, 03:17:13 PM
How many PS , hoe many ambassadors how many county commissioners ? 


Raila got 7 cs. He still waiting
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nefertiti on October 08, 2024, 10:45:41 PM
Kalonzo is 70. By 2032 he will be 78. Nope any deal would be Ruto to step aside 2027-32.

He only has a shot with Riggy.


Kalonzo could - its 5yrs only - and it more assured way in 2032.

Esp if they will overlook Kalonzo again?

Raila and Kalonzo will not agree to deputize nor re-elect Ruto. They were already VP and PM, are old, and don't even trust him. Their dying wish is to be president.

Ruto choice is down to Mdvd and Gema.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nefertiti on October 08, 2024, 11:26:39 PM
Ruto needs to reassemble URP. Which is a direct competitor to ODM in NEP, Coast, Matusa. I wonder how long the broad-based thing will last.

Gema coalitions last due to their insularity: they don't encroach into non-Gema bases which is the source of Raila-Ruto 20yr+ battles.

ODM of yore crumbled in 2 seconds. Let's see how this one goes.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nefertiti on October 08, 2024, 11:44:56 PM
Nowayhaha is so insistent on Ruto will be No 3: his logic is simple

•UDA implosion means Ruto is back to URP settings.
•ODM will fight viciously for the non-Gema with UDA.
•Kalonzo-Riggy plainly has a leg up.

I don't know what makes Noway so certain of Raila's 2027 candidature. The only certain thing is the Gema divorce from Ruto. Ruto-Wanga (ODM) is still among open possibilities.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2024, 04:31:04 AM
Ruto needs to reassemble URP. Which is a direct competitor to ODM in NEP, Coast, Matusa. I wonder how long the broad-based thing will last.

Gema coalitions last due to their insularity: they don't encroach into non-Gema bases which is the source of Raila-Ruto 20yr+ battles.

ODM of yore crumbled in 2 seconds. Let's see how this one goes.
Ruto can't go back to urp now. He is president. He has many options. Luhya dpork or luo very likely. The rest of country he will get the usual. He just need two tribes to get him 30% headstart. Rest is easy
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Githunguri on October 09, 2024, 05:01:51 AM
Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2024, 06:30:33 AM
Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nefertiti on October 09, 2024, 11:42:37 AM
I was busy – Babu Owino on missing in DP's ouster vote

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In a Facebook post, Owino said the National Assembly should have been discussing important topics including the Adani deal, the new university funding model, the Social Health Authority, the high cost of living, high taxation and unemployment.

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“You will see me in Parliament when these issues are presented but they will not bring them. I was highly engaged with other important and urgent matters affecting my constituents,” he said.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-10-09-i-was-busy-babu-owino-on-missing-in-dps-ouster-vote
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2024, 11:47:54 AM

There you go , your next Nairobi Governor …..

I was busy – Babu Owino on missing in DP's ouster vote

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In a Facebook post, Owino said the National Assembly should have been discussing important topics including the Adani deal, the new university funding model, the Social Health Authority, the high cost of living, high taxation and unemployment.

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“You will see me in Parliament when these issues are presented but they will not bring them. I was highly engaged with other important and urgent matters affecting my constituents,” he said.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-10-09-i-was-busy-babu-owino-on-missing-in-dps-ouster-vote
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2024, 11:51:24 AM

We already know as Moist you relish the 19902 where violence , corruption   , political abductions , Judiciary and Parliamentary patrionage and tribalism were the order of the day .
Wake up we are in a new era not Mois error. How about remember we have a new constitution , social media , ICC etc


Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2024, 03:07:22 PM
Ruto is a Moist. Not me. You keep confusing the two. Ruto was Y2k to KANU of Uhuru till 2005. Once he quit KANU - I became his friend. Never could be in KANU -ever.

We already know as Moist you relish the 19902 where violence , corruption   , political abductions , Judiciary and Parliamentary patrionage and tribalism were the order of the day .
Wake up we are in a new era not Mois error. How about remember we have a new constitution , social media , ICC etc


Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2024, 03:24:56 PM
You are a Moist its very evident . You keep on talking of Mois 90 years with Nostalgia .Everyone can see it . You pretend you supported Kibaki as a child because of your fathers infuence which expected . When you came of age you became a Kalenjin chauvinist and nationalist . You became anti Kibaki because he defeated KANU and fired corrupt tribesman out of PS offices . That how you ended up identifying with Raila  because he had gone against Kibaki .
Once again we can read you like ABCD . Kenya will never go back to Mois error . Forget that you and Ruto can want that but it wont happen .


Ruto is a Moist. Not me. You keep confusing the two. Ruto was Y2k to KANU of Uhuru till 2005. Once he quit KANU - I became his friend. Never could be in KANU -ever.

We already know as Moist you relish the 19902 where violence , corruption   , political abductions , Judiciary and Parliamentary patrionage and tribalism were the order of the day .
Wake up we are in a new era not Mois error. How about remember we have a new constitution , social media , ICC etc


Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2024, 04:20:19 PM
When I tell you that Ruto who was one of MOi's 90 architect will shaft you using KANU strategies - then I am a MOist.
I opposed Kibaki when his people started saying all the nice things I thought we supported in 90s - was just to remove Moi.
The last was Bomas of kenya - I was passionate about federalism/devolution - and when Kibaki killed it - it was over.
I felt very betrayed.
I realize kenya politics was just tribal
And i felt I had wrong my tribes men.
Now I am tribal too...but in an intelligent way.

Once again focus on RUTO - not me - blogger/analyst - powerless dude like me - at least RVHH has connection uko.

You are a Moist its very evident . You keep on talking of Mois 90 years with Nostalgia .Everyone can see it . You pretend you supported Kibaki as a child because of your fathers infuence which expected . When you came of age you became a Kalenjin chauvinist and nationalist . You became anti Kibaki because he defeated KANU and fired corrupt tribesman out of PS offices . That how you ended up identifying with Raila  because he had gone against Kibaki .
Once again we can read you like ABCD . Kenya will never go back to Mois error . Forget that you and Ruto can want that but it wont happen .


Ruto is a Moist. Not me. You keep confusing the two. Ruto was Y2k to KANU of Uhuru till 2005. Once he quit KANU - I became his friend. Never could be in KANU -ever.

We already know as Moist you relish the 19902 where violence , corruption   , political abductions , Judiciary and Parliamentary patrionage and tribalism were the order of the day .
Wake up we are in a new era not Mois error. How about remember we have a new constitution , social media , ICC etc


Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Georgesoros on October 09, 2024, 06:06:37 PM
What a crappy subject to talk about while 60% of youth have no jobs,
No wonder Kenya is doomed. Soon it will be 70%, and we are talking about tribal alignments, instead of great policies.
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2024, 06:15:35 PM
You are a Moist . Further the Moist strategies cant work now under the new constitution dispensation and enlightened population with social media . This is Null and void . You opposed Kibaki because you came of age and found yourself a Kalenjin nationalist who you are upto today .
Good you acknowledge you are very tribal


When I tell you that Ruto who was one of MOi's 90 architect will shaft you using KANU strategies - then I am a MOist.
I opposed Kibaki when his people started saying all the nice things I thought we supported in 90s - was just to remove Moi.
The last was Bomas of kenya - I was passionate about federalism/devolution - and when Kibaki killed it - it was over.
I felt very betrayed.
I realize kenya politics was just tribal
And i felt I had wrong my tribes men.
Now I am tribal too...but in an intelligent way.

Once again focus on RUTO - not me - blogger/analyst - powerless dude like me - at least RVHH has connection uko.

You are a Moist its very evident . You keep on talking of Mois 90 years with Nostalgia .Everyone can see it . You pretend you supported Kibaki as a child because of your fathers infuence which expected . When you came of age you became a Kalenjin chauvinist and nationalist . You became anti Kibaki because he defeated KANU and fired corrupt tribesman out of PS offices . That how you ended up identifying with Raila  because he had gone against Kibaki .
Once again we can read you like ABCD . Kenya will never go back to Mois error . Forget that you and Ruto can want that but it wont happen .


Ruto is a Moist. Not me. You keep confusing the two. Ruto was Y2k to KANU of Uhuru till 2005. Once he quit KANU - I became his friend. Never could be in KANU -ever.

We already know as Moist you relish the 19902 where violence , corruption   , political abductions , Judiciary and Parliamentary patrionage and tribalism were the order of the day .
Wake up we are in a new era not Mois error. How about remember we have a new constitution , social media , ICC etc


Ruto has completely lost GEMA vote. Once the impeachment is over, Raila will abandon Ruto. He will lead a countrywide movement to eject him from statehouse. Ruto will run to exile.
Remind me of 1990s. Ruto will only be removed in..never
Title: Re: Luo GEMA Kamba opposition will oust Ruto.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2024, 08:08:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nelson Havi – Former LSK President: What happened yesterday was like a trial. The structure has failed and it must be repaired or a new one put in place. The President must dissolve Parliament <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CitizenDayBreak?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CitizenDayBreak</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AyubAbdikadir?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AyubAbdikadir</a> <a href="https://t.co/KT9PiF5igI">pic.twitter.com/KT9PiF5igI</a></p>&mdash; Citizen TV Kenya (@citizentvkenya) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>