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Title: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 02:55:25 AM

From now on it will Downhill…………

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/politics/article/2001503812/mt-kenya-mps-blame-ruto-for-gachaguas-impeachment

MPs Edward Muriu (Gatanga), Mary Maua (Maragua), Peter Kihungi (Kangema), Joseph Munyoro  (Kigumo), Chege Njuguna (Kandara) and Senator Joe Nyutu opined that the only way the ouster motion made its way to Parliament was with the blessing of President Ruto.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 03:00:46 AM
Questioning why the Head of State had not halted the motion, they termed it a political war meant to weaken Gachagua’s influence ahead of the 2027 elections.

“We know without the blessings of Ruto this would have not happened. They should know that divorcing Gachagua is divorcing the mountain. We believe that they (Ruto and Gachagua) should embrace dialogue and sort out their differences,” said Nyutu.

“Ruto has the ability to stop this motion. Even with Parliament being independent, MPs will listen to him,” he added.

At the same time, Wiper Democratic Movement Party yesterday expressed its opposition to the impeachment motion.

In a statement, Wiper clarified that the mover of the motion, Mwengi Mutuse, was not their member and that he belonged to the Maendeleo Chap Chap party - a constituent party of the Kenya Kwanza Alliance.

“This distinction is important in understanding the political alignments and affiliations in Kenya. We would also want to reiterate that Wiper Democratic Movement Party opposes the proposed impeachment motion against the Deputy President,” it read.

Maragua MP Mary Wamaua termed the ouster motion as unfortunate stating that the backers of were fighting personal wars with a man whose only crime was advocating for unity.

“If the Deputy President is being hanged through the impeachment motion for advocating for the unity of the mountain, one day history will fight for itself. We know they fear when the mountain is united,” she stated.

Nyutu further claimed that the entry of Azimio la Umoja leader Raila Odinga into the Kwanza Kwanza fray is what precipitated Gachagua’s ouster.

“If they vote to impeach the Deputy President, then ODM will not convince anyone that they were not brought into government to kick out Gachagua. We believe the broad-based government was meant to sideline Gachagua which is very unfortunate,” Nyutu said.

He warned that should the ouster motion sail through, it would forever taint the relationship between Ruto and the Mt Kenya region which will would be reflected in the 2027 elections.

The leaders also noted that during Ruto and former President Uhuru Kenyatta’s feud, it never got to settling scores through impeachment.

“We can’t see anything that the Deputy President has done that’s irreconcilable. Former President Uhuru Kenyatta never through the MPs initiated such proceedings against Ruto,” he said.

The leaders further claimed that all the issues that had been presented through the motion could have been addressed internally through the laid down UDA dispute resolution mechanisms.

“Proceeding with this motion will amount to the DP being condemned unheard. It’s on that basis that we are seeking and beseeching our fellow MPs to give dispute resolution mechanism a chance,” said Kigumo MP Joseph Kamau.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Georgesoros on October 02, 2024, 03:07:41 AM
Rutos blessing???
NAH🤷🏼🤷🏼
I wish they had put as much effort towards peoples business as they are doing
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 02, 2024, 03:21:24 AM
Ruto is buying three years to steal as much as possible without Gachagua getting on the way. He knows that Raila once he gets his share will not make too much noise and he is betting that Raila will win the AU seat. I know Kenyans will reclaim the country in 2027 if not before, whatever is stolen will be recovered, it will be either jail or money. These people should not be allowed to eat in peace.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 05:55:50 AM
7 mp/senators versus 80 mp/senators. That best RiggyG can do. When he gets impeached those 7 will evaporate. With all his stolen money he can't buy even 20 mps.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 08:55:20 AM

What you fail to see is that it started with Nyeri Mps now it Muranga MPs .
There is a reason they have come out now . Cant you see you favorite replacement for Gachagua Ndindi Nyoro is silent and didnt append his signature .
Slowly by slowly next will Be Kirinyaga , Embu , Meru , Tharaka Nithi , Kiambu , Lamu , Nakuru , Laikipia  then parts of Nairobi .
Personally Im happy , Ruto is self sabotaging . I knew Gachagua as Rutos poodle. Wanted them to go down together in 2027 . But they are self accelerating in the destruction and the way its going both wont reach 2027.
I never subscribe to politics of betrayal , Raila betrayed Ruto in 2007 one of the reason I started supporting Ruto , Uhuru betrayed Ruto the reason Mt Kenya voted overwhelmingly  for Ruto in 2022 . Ruto just did a Raila and Uhuru , he will never be forgiven .Politcs of betrayal should have ended in 2022.
Even Uhuru was decent enough to not impeach him and let him run his campaigns in Mt Kenya region .
Even Raila was decent enough to let him continue as a Minister in Grand Coalition Government .
Betraying Mt Kenya by bringing Raila in Govt then further going to impeach one of their own is a very big low .This what Moi did to Mt Kenya and Ruto being a Moist repeating the same . It never ended well for Moi not will it for Ruto.
Some Moist like RVpundit think its a great strategy as it will divide Mt Kenya .Nop if Uhuru didnt manage last election with Kiraitue et all will Ruto manage ?

7 mp/senators versus 80 mp/senators. That best RiggyG can do. When he gets impeached those 7 will evaporate. With all his stolen money he can't buy even 20 mps.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 09:13:43 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">DP Gachagua on Kiharu MP Hon Ndindi Nyoro <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DPGachaguaSpeaks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DPGachaguaSpeaks</a> <a href="https://t.co/eoYhwcKXzx">pic.twitter.com/eoYhwcKXzx</a></p>&mdash; Ben Mèjja (@MejjaBen) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 12:33:55 PM
RiggyG is done. Reading that dossier. He should be on next flight abroad with family
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 01:20:02 PM
Has Ndindi Nyoro rebelled against Ruto? That's majority of Murang'a MPs.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 01:30:22 PM
Has Ndindi Nyoro rebelled against Ruto? That's majority of Murang'a MPs.
he can't dare.. Ruto has files... muranga feel cheated as soprano Kindiki get it...they will get over it...
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 01:43:01 PM

Muranga Mps are good at reading the ground . Why should they feel cheated . Kiambu politicians usually take time to make moves because they have business interests mostly with Govt .
As you can see Nyeri is Gone Muranga is gone , its over for Ruto in Mt Kenya, similarly to Uhuru he though he could manipulate the voters using the Mps , all his Mps were removed in 2022 .

Has Ndindi Nyoro rebelled against Ruto? That's majority of Murang'a MPs.
he can't dare.. Ruto has files... muranga feel cheated as soprano Kindiki get it...they will get over it...
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 01:44:12 PM
Ndindi Nyoro is doing the right thing , stay away as he might be blamed for betrayal like what Kindiki is experiencing now….

Has Ndindi Nyoro rebelled against Ruto? That's majority of Murang'a MPs.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 02:02:03 PM
Nyeri gone where..all mp n senators voted impeachment. Only Kahiga. It only muranga who were thinking Ndidi is successor
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 02:03:49 PM
Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 02:09:08 PM
Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 02:17:43 PM
When I say Nyeri is gone I mean it , Here is an article read it yourself and tell me if it still supporting Ruto
The rest will follow suit . Once Raila was brought to Govt that was it . Politics of betrayal does not sit well in Mt Kenya.
And Robina stop using Mps as barometer of on grounf support we warned you last time . Even one of the person who was warning RVpundit is now using that because he knows very well Raila has blundered .

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/central/article/2001503811/nyeri-residents-rally-behind-gachagua-as-impeachment-motion-tabled

Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 02:21:43 PM

Where will they go , last time ODMers were reasoning like you they dont have a place to go and cant vote for Ruto .
Ofcourse the biggest wake up call has been voting against Raila for Ruto only for Ruto to join hands with Raila.
Come 2027 they will be in their own party snd will vote for their own . Its the flower girls like Ruto and Kalonzo who will be running to Mt Kenya /GEMA seeking coalitions .Raila will still be No 2 Ruto No 3 ….


Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 02:47:49 PM
You overrate Kikuyu vote like the 90s utaona moto. Nobody ready to elect kikuyu president soon. 20yrs minimum
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 02:58:46 PM

Oh well there will be no clear majority a run off will be there and still GEMA will win.
Not unless Ruto supports Raila and becomes his Deputy President . Which will be a foolish move having destroyed UDA .

You overrate Kikuyu vote like the 90s utaona moto. Nobody ready to elect kikuyu president soon. 20yrs minimum
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 03:00:10 PM
Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila

My lay view is it near impossible to beat Riggy.. cause Gema can easily see Ruto wants to colonize them like Raila in Luhya. They are not stupid.

Ati Mt Kenya East sijui what. Riggy is running with all Gema. If Njuri is telling you he is half-Meru with full Meru wife. 👀

But I think he is angling for 2032. 2027 he will consolidate them like Kibaki 1997. Then do deals as Ruto retire. I don't think he is delusional to take on Ruto 2027. Unless they fall out with Raila.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 03:05:45 PM

And this is the wrong Premise that Raila is with Ruto , that Raila will win AUC , that Raila wont be in the ballot 2027.
One Raila has not officially confirmed he will support Ruto , Secondly Raila wont win AUC and thirdly Raila will be in the ballot 2027 .
Just like Moi in 2002 Ruto will realize he miscalculated big time .
I thought he was wise enough like in 2022 he went all out saying he does not expect Uhurus support he is going to campaign for himself . Thsts what made him win over GEMA and eventually the Presidency .
How now his supporters are all sure Raila will support him in 2027 is beyond foolishness having known Raila from 1997 till now …..


Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila

My lay view is it near impossible to beat Riggy.. cause Gema can easily see Ruto wants to colonize them like Raila in Luhya. They are not stupid.

At Mt Kenya East sijui what. Riggy is running with all Gema. If Njuri is telling you he is half-Meru with full Meru wife. 👀

But I think he is angling for 2032. 2027 he will consolidate them like Kibaki 1997. Then do deals as Ruto retire. I don't think he is delusional to take on Ruto 2027. Unless they fall out with Raila.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 03:11:06 PM
I know the ground is gone gone. I was being literal. Those are Karatina MCAs not MPs.

But the ground is gone to RIGGY not a formless GenZ party. That's where you are losing me. Those people are supporting Riggy not Babu Owino or Morara Kebaso.

When I say Nyeri is gone I mean it , Here is an article read it yourself and tell me if it still supporting Ruto
The rest will follow suit . Once Raila was brought to Govt that was it . Politics of betrayal does not sit well in Mt Kenya.
And Robina stop using Mps as barometer of on grounf support we warned you last time . Even one of the person who was warning RVpundit is now using that because he knows very well Raila has blundered .

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/central/article/2001503811/nyeri-residents-rally-behind-gachagua-as-impeachment-motion-tabled

Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 03:25:11 PM

When I say gone I mean out of UDA out of Rutos scope . As to whom I have not indicated
Now to Rigathi , I already indicated he is Rutos making and poodle Ruto might decide to save him or finish him eternally if he escapes impeachment he will use the courts just like Uhuru finished Sonko and Waititu .
Ofcourse there will emerge a new Mt Kenya Kingpin , it is in the making .
As for Morara his path is different and not tied to the 2027 elections . Im seeing him advocating for Ruto not reaching 2027 elections thats a different path and as showcased in June 2024 .If it gets steam there is a possibilty od it happening.
Hope now its clear ….
I know the ground is gone gone. I was being literal. Those are Karatina MCAs not MPs.

But the ground is gone to RIGGY not a formless GenZ party. That's where you are losing me. Those people are supporting Riggy not Babu Owino or Morara Kebaso.

When I say Nyeri is gone I mean it , Here is an article read it yourself and tell me if it still supporting Ruto
The rest will follow suit . Once Raila was brought to Govt that was it . Politics of betrayal does not sit well in Mt Kenya.
And Robina stop using Mps as barometer of on grounf support we warned you last time . Even one of the person who was warning RVpundit is now using that because he knows very well Raila has blundered .

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/central/article/2001503811/nyeri-residents-rally-behind-gachagua-as-impeachment-motion-tabled

Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 03:43:17 PM
I don't know if Ruto is settled on ODM support. I think according to Pundit they fell out over powersharing - he shortchanged Riggy and tried to sponsor Ndindi and Kindiki.

Now with neither UDA base nor ODM guarantee - he is desperate to divide and conquer Gema, which of course is herculean.

Question, why hang Riggy if he is only a poodle? And not a new kingpin.


And this is the wrong Premise that Raila is with Ruto , that Raila will win AUC , that Raila wont be in the ballot 2027.
One Raila has not officially confirmed he will support Ruto , Secondly Raila wont win AUC and thirdly Raila will be in the ballot 2027 .
Just like Moi in 2002 Ruto will realize he miscalculated big time .
I thought he was wise enough like in 2022 he went all out saying he does not expect Uhurus support he is going to campaign for himself . Thsts what made him win over GEMA and eventually the Presidency .
How now his supporters are all sure Raila will support him in 2027 is beyond foolishness having known Raila from 1997 till now …..


Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila

My lay view is it near impossible to beat Riggy.. cause Gema can easily see Ruto wants to colonize them like Raila in Luhya. They are not stupid.

At Mt Kenya East sijui what. Riggy is running with all Gema. If Njuri is telling you he is half-Meru with full Meru wife. 👀

But I think he is angling for 2032. 2027 he will consolidate them like Kibaki 1997. Then do deals as Ruto retire. I don't think he is delusional to take on Ruto 2027. Unless they fall out with Raila.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 03:52:18 PM
He is hanging him exactly for the same reason you have said . To cut him to size or do away with him at the best time which is now ( not nearing the elections or during elections )

In his calculations he thinks he can divide Mt Kenya and Raila will win AUC . He forsees if he doesnt fo that Gachagua will oppose the agreed referendum with Raila and will take GEMA wholesomely come 2027 .

Now the reality is different . After Betrayal of Ruto by bringing Raila in . There is no way GEMA will run under UDA . They will form their own party and run against Ruto
Secondly Raila will not win AUC and thirdly he will be in the ballot come 2027 with that said Ruto will be No 3
 

I don't know if Ruto is settled on ODM support. I think according to Pundit they fell out over powersharing - he shortchanged Riggy and tried to sponsor Ndindi and Kindiki.

Now with neither UDA base nor ODM guarantee - he is desperate to divide and conquer Gema, which of course is herculean.

Question, why hang Riggy if he is only a poodle? And not a new kingpin.


And this is the wrong Premise that Raila is with Ruto , that Raila will win AUC , that Raila wont be in the ballot 2027.
One Raila has not officially confirmed he will support Ruto , Secondly Raila wont win AUC and thirdly Raila will be in the ballot 2027 .
Just like Moi in 2002 Ruto will realize he miscalculated big time .
I thought he was wise enough like in 2022 he went all out saying he does not expect Uhurus support he is going to campaign for himself . Thsts what made him win over GEMA and eventually the Presidency .
How now his supporters are all sure Raila will support him in 2027 is beyond foolishness having known Raila from 1997 till now …..


Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila

My lay view is it near impossible to beat Riggy.. cause Gema can easily see Ruto wants to colonize them like Raila in Luhya. They are not stupid.

At Mt Kenya East sijui what. Riggy is running with all Gema. If Njuri is telling you he is half-Meru with full Meru wife. 👀

But I think he is angling for 2032. 2027 he will consolidate them like Kibaki 1997. Then do deals as Ruto retire. I don't think he is delusional to take on Ruto 2027. Unless they fall out with Raila.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 02, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
Yes Ruto has a big problem. People will continue to disappear if they threaten his power. AU problem is complicated by Raila failure to inspire following. What I really suspect - Raila is lukewarm on the tedious pompous post and only keen on real power. The 5 CS, etc. He needs to lose to justify remaining in the game. While Ruto is eager to be rid of him.

As for the new Gema kingpin.. that am yet to see. None in the horizon but Riggy.

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He is hanging him exactly for the same reason you have said . To cut him to size or do away with him at the best time which is now ( not nearing the elections or during elections )

In his calculations he thinks he can divide Mt Kenya and Raila will win AUC . He forsees if he doesnt fo that Gachagua will oppose the agreed referendum with Raila and will take GEMA wholesomely come 2027 .

Now the reality is different . After Betrayal of Ruto by bringing Raila in . There is no way GEMA will run under UDA . They will form their own party and run against Ruto
Secondly Raila will not win AUC and thirdly he will be in the ballot come 2027 with that said Ruto will be No 3
 

I don't know if Ruto is settled on ODM support. I think according to Pundit they fell out over powersharing - he shortchanged Riggy and tried to sponsor Ndindi and Kindiki.

Now with neither UDA base nor ODM guarantee - he is desperate to divide and conquer Gema, which of course is herculean.

Question, why hang Riggy if he is only a poodle? And not a new kingpin.


And this is the wrong Premise that Raila is with Ruto , that Raila will win AUC , that Raila wont be in the ballot 2027.
One Raila has not officially confirmed he will support Ruto , Secondly Raila wont win AUC and thirdly Raila will be in the ballot 2027 .
Just like Moi in 2002 Ruto will realize he miscalculated big time .
I thought he was wise enough like in 2022 he went all out saying he does not expect Uhurus support he is going to campaign for himself . Thsts what made him win over GEMA and eventually the Presidency .
How now his supporters are all sure Raila will support him in 2027 is beyond foolishness having known Raila from 1997 till now …..


Nowayhaha surely I haven't seen Nyeri MPs backing Riggy like Murang'a, Nairobi or Kiambu.

But I agree with these 3 gone Nyeri or Kirinyaga almost definitely gone.
Gone where. They are just angry n dazed n confused. Where will they go. Kalonzo. Raila. RiggyG will be finished. Then Mt Kenya East will go kindiki. Kikuyu in diaspora are in difficult position... likely to divorce those in central...mwangi kiunjuri will lead that. So ni Nairobi n Centra province. Easy maths for Ruto even with Raila present because he will sweep the small any gov tribes. That is without even odm n Raila

My lay view is it near impossible to beat Riggy.. cause Gema can easily see Ruto wants to colonize them like Raila in Luhya. They are not stupid.

At Mt Kenya East sijui what. Riggy is running with all Gema. If Njuri is telling you he is half-Meru with full Meru wife. 👀

But I think he is angling for 2032. 2027 he will consolidate them like Kibaki 1997. Then do deals as Ruto retire. I don't think he is delusional to take on Ruto 2027. Unless they fall out with Raila.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 02, 2024, 06:24:04 PM
Mt Kenyans , If Gachagua goes then Ruto too should go….


Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 02, 2024, 11:44:34 PM
Muranga blues linked to Ndidi being overlooked for Kindiki. There is talk of kalonzo now becoming deputy president
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 04:27:21 AM

Nothing to do with Ndindi Nyoro , they would have said , their was clear , Its about politics of betrayal .
Would be nice if Kalonzo becomes DP so that in one year he can be impeached . The theeshild has been lowered , this would be a good way of doing away with opponents..
The only person who can do the DP seat nicely is Raila . He has the numbers to prevent impeachment unlike Gachagua he has enough Mps loyal to him . Ruto shiuld go ahead and give it to him , he will be suprised Raila can settle for less coz he is coming for Presidency come 2027.

Muranga blues linked to Ndidi being overlooked for Kindiki. There is talk of kalonzo now becoming deputy president
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 07:18:39 AM
Nobody beating Ruto in 2027.
Hiyo ni obvious to anyone with brain in kenya.
The best for anyone Is to aim for 2032.

Nothing to do with Ndindi Nyoro , they would have said , their was clear , Its about politics of betrayal .
Would be nice if Kalonzo becomes DP so that in one year he can be impeached . The theeshild has been lowered , this would be a good way of doing away with opponents..
The only person who can do the DP seat nicely is Raila . He has the numbers to prevent impeachment unlike Gachagua he has enough Mps loyal to him . Ruto shiuld go ahead and give it to him , he will be suprised Raila can settle for less coz he is coming for Presidency come 2027.

Muranga blues linked to Ndidi being overlooked for Kindiki. There is talk of kalonzo now becoming deputy president
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 07:19:36 AM
Reading that Raila is talking to Kalonzo to accept to deputize Ruto - instead of Kindiki.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 01:05:10 PM
If Raila will back Kalonzo and ensure he is not impeached , Let him go for it . The question will be where will be Raila in the equation . Qnd if this was the ideal situation why they didnt do it last election . Its a pipe dream thinking you can accommodate all political formations in one .
So Kalonzo should take it he has been asking for DP since 2013 . In this case where will Raila be ? Like handshake expecting to be handed over Presidency in 2027 , satisfied with AUC or take another shot for 2027 Presidency .
I can tell you for free in all formations Ruto will be No 3 . Once Kalonzo realizes Ruto stands no chance of winning in 2027 he will escae

Reading that Raila is talking to Kalonzo to accept to deputize Ruto - instead of Kindiki.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 03, 2024, 01:12:23 PM
Reading that Raila is talking to Kalonzo to accept to deputize Ruto - instead of Kindiki.

Kalonzo would not accept it. He is smelling 2027 shot with Riggy backing and will not fall for such katikati optics.

Expect Wiper to vote to the last man against Riggy impeachment.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 03, 2024, 01:19:18 PM
RV Pundit needs to craft new MOAS 2027 Edition

Ruto-Mdvd vs Raila-Arati vs Kalonzo-Riggy
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 01:27:38 PM
15yrs out of power doing the same thing!
First what makes Kalonzo thing Mt kenya with say 25% of the vote will accept to Deputize Kalonzo (10%)
They can as well deputize Ruto and wait for 2032.
They deputize Kalonzo - let even assume they WIN (very very UNLIKELY) - and then same debacle - and now next time you remove Kaloi if he wins is 2037?

Raila has better brain. You have a deal now. You have 2027 make-belief deal.

If I was Kalonzo - I would have talked to Ruto with Raila.

Now he has second chance - RIggyG is gone and DPORK is vacant. Raila is sorted in AU (at least for 3yrs - he can resign and comeback in 2027).

In Azimio remember he wasnt even DPORK.

Now he should be running to Ruto and trying to overtake Kindiki. Ruto would likely find him better candidate - than Kindiki - who is useless in Mt kenya -- though I doubt he want to cut off Mt kenya this early - but he can do it.

3yrs - he gets RiggyG 10B - stashed.

2027 - he can decide to continue for 5yrs - or  see if Ruto is very unpopular quit GOK - and try to find a ticket he can go back to power.

But Kalonzo has no brain.

Now he is going to follow RIggyG to opposition. The man whom GOK machinery is just starting to fix. RiggyG is fatally wounded - for Ruto will not leave him - standing if he has done what RVHH say (poison, bombs, coups)



Kalonzo would not accept it. He is smelling 2027 shot with Riggy backing and will not fall for such katikati optics.

Expect Wiper to vote to the last man against Riggy impeachment.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 01:29:46 PM
Too early for MOAS - we dont have candidates.
I did MOASS 2022 with scenarios where Ruto was getting GEMA at 30% - he was at 43% if I remember.
Ruto will easily win because he is incumbent and has national support.
Only Raila would threaten him.

The rest will struggle. Hiyo Gen Z wave will soon give in to usual tribalism.

And RiggyG I dont think will survive - it likely Muhoho Kenyatta will be the GEMA candidate for 2027 or even Ndidi Nyoro.

RiggyG - literally has only Kahiga - the mt kenya sympathy on him - will soon give in to reality that he is fatally flawed - and Uhuru Kenyatta will resume Mt kenya leadership.

Uhuru will swiftly recommend Muhoho Kenyatta.


RV Pundit needs to craft new MOAS 2027 Edition

Ruto-Mdvd vs Raila-Arati vs Kalonzo-Riggy
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 01:33:42 PM
I can tell you for free - you're insane.
If Raila will back Kalonzo and ensure he is not impeached , Let him go for it . The question will be where will be Raila in the equation . Qnd if this was the ideal situation why they didnt do it last election . Its a pipe dream thinking you can accommodate all political formations in one .
So Kalonzo should take it he has been asking for DP since 2013 . In this case where will Raila be ? Like handshake expecting to be handed over Presidency in 2027 , satisfied with AUC or take another shot for 2027 Presidency .
I can tell you for free in all formations Ruto will be No 3 . Once Kalonzo realizes Ruto stands no chance of winning in 2027 he will escae

Reading that Raila is talking to Kalonzo to accept to deputize Ruto - instead of Kindiki.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 03, 2024, 05:42:33 PM
Uhuru is not in charge of anything so he can hand over to Muhoho. Once he delivered 14% he was done.

I don't know why you believe Riggy cannot survive without GoK. Ruto survived for years 2010-13 Raila fired him. 2018-22 he was effectively cut off even his staffers went unpaid. Raila was fired by Kibaki 2005-07 didn't stop anything. 2013-17 he survived. Kalonzo been jobless for 10 years still has Kamba intact.

Riggy after Uhuru harassment probably knows how to stash bitcoins as good as Ruto.

Those RVHH stories are just usual tales like we had with UhuRuto after fallout. It was peddled that Ruto asked Raila to help impeach Uhuru, etc - fitina to justify sidelinement.

Riggy if Ruto insist will resign a day to the Senate vote - to expose the traitors esp in Mt Kenya. Then he will run anti-Ruto campaigns all over. Any persecution like banning his rallies will only make it worse. You have a by-election and UDA will fare worse than Kanu in 90s.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 03, 2024, 05:48:15 PM
Riggy vs Ruto is just Ruto vs Raila ODM days. Ruto had to get back Kalenjin who Raila had stolen from Kanu. Riggy is doing the same for Gema. Uhuru is Moi.

This is a fight for the Gema vote.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nefertiti on October 03, 2024, 06:07:05 PM
He is not insane. Why would Ruto appoint Kalonzo?

If Ruto was going to do that - he would keep it very close to himself. Because Raila can ask ODM to torpedo the impeachment. Raila and Kalonzo interests are misaligned.

I think if Riggy is impeached DP will be vacant for a while. Ruto will sponsor some fake cases or fudge the process intentionally. To injunct himself.

I can tell you for free - you're insane.
If Raila will back Kalonzo and ensure he is not impeached , Let him go for it . The question will be where will be Raila in the equation . Qnd if this was the ideal situation why they didnt do it last election . Its a pipe dream thinking you can accommodate all political formations in one .
So Kalonzo should take it he has been asking for DP since 2013 . In this case where will Raila be ? Like handshake expecting to be handed over Presidency in 2027 , satisfied with AUC or take another shot for 2027 Presidency .
I can tell you for free in all formations Ruto will be No 3 . Once Kalonzo realizes Ruto stands no chance of winning in 2027 he will escae

Reading that Raila is talking to Kalonzo to accept to deputize Ruto - instead of Kindiki.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 06:13:32 PM
Simple , only Ruto should just have let him be , perhaps could have but Genz ikaharibu hesabu and had to bring in Raila earlier than planned making him have numbers which he is trying to flex before Gachagua becomes bigger , a mistake he did which has mase him lose his winning formula.

He should have done this move the best time after 2027 elections second best time if Raila confirmed as AUC chair . This is a big miscalculation , just like it cost Raila in 2013 and Raila galvanized Mt Kenya in 2007.
Now Mt Kenya is gone forever and will never ever vote for a candidate from another part of Kenya .

Riggy vs Ruto is just Ruto vs Raila ODM days. Ruto had to get back Kalenjin who Raila had stolen from Kanu. Riggy is doing the same for Gema. Uhuru is Moi.

This is a fight for the Gema vote.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 06:29:53 PM
Gachagua is one who miscalculated. He should have stayed foolish for 5yrs. Then he can do what he is doing in last of Ruto 5yrs - Ruto would be retiring - and wont see him as threat.

Ruto may well go home - after 5yrs - but Gachagua is GONE HOME ALREADY.

So for sure Gachagua has miscalculated.

Simple , only Ruto should just have let him be , perhaps could have but Genz ikaharibu hesabu and had to bring in Raila earlier than planned making him have numbers which he is trying to flex before Gachagua becomes bigger , a mistake he did which has mase him lose his winning formula.

He should have done this move the best time after 2027 elections second best time if Raila confirmed as AUC chair . This is a big miscalculation , just like it cost Raila in 2013 and Raila galvanized Mt Kenya in 2007.
Now Mt Kenya is gone forever and will never ever vote for a candidate from another part of Kenya .

Riggy vs Ruto is just Ruto vs Raila ODM days. Ruto had to get back Kalenjin who Raila had stolen from Kanu. Riggy is doing the same for Gema. Uhuru is Moi.

This is a fight for the Gema vote.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 07:20:45 PM
Ruto is the first President to use the Army to save him from losing power .
His miscalculation started with wrong economic policies thats why Genz were up all arms against him.
Second mistake bringing Raila to Government in the first term  when for the last 15 years he has been fighting him and its the reason he became President by getting Anti Raila vote .
Third Mistake going ahead and impeaching Gachagua ( I dont support him) but certainly I can see the consequences  come 2027.
Fourth mistakes the return of Moi era abductions and political arrests . Yaani Ruto is doing one mistake after the other  .

You started advocating for Ruto to do away with Gachagua around late last year in order to maintain Mt Kenya support , you thought it is brilliant idea and Nyoro would replace Gachagua easily , I can see it has become clear to you that idea has cost Ruto Mt Kenya and now you even advocate for Raila or Kalonzo to be given Deputy Presidency as time goes by you will come to acknowledge that Ruto miscalculated several times .

Gachagua is one who miscalculated. He should have stayed foolish for 5yrs. Then he can do what he is doing in last of Ruto 5yrs - Ruto would be retiring - and wont see him as threat.

Ruto may well go home - after 5yrs - but Gachagua is GONE HOME ALREADY.

So for sure Gachagua has miscalculated.

Simple , only Ruto should just have let him be , perhaps could have but Genz ikaharibu hesabu and had to bring in Raila earlier than planned making him have numbers which he is trying to flex before Gachagua becomes bigger , a mistake he did which has mase him lose his winning formula.

He should have done this move the best time after 2027 elections second best time if Raila confirmed as AUC chair . This is a big miscalculation , just like it cost Raila in 2013 and Raila galvanized Mt Kenya in 2007.
Now Mt Kenya is gone forever and will never ever vote for a candidate from another part of Kenya .

Riggy vs Ruto is just Ruto vs Raila ODM days. Ruto had to get back Kalenjin who Raila had stolen from Kanu. Riggy is doing the same for Gema. Uhuru is Moi.

This is a fight for the Gema vote.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 08:32:23 PM
Slowly by slowly they have started
Nyeri Women rep says it was a mistake signing impeachment petition

Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 08:43:09 PM
3 Nyeri Mps have a change in heart and now oppose Gachaguas Impeachment
Pundit and his numbers start dwindling ……

Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 03, 2024, 09:11:17 PM
3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 03, 2024, 09:32:04 PM

You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2024, 05:49:22 AM

You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 04, 2024, 07:21:39 AM

I also want him impeached so that Ruto can become weaker ,what you dont get is Ruto was made President as his 49% of the vote which made him President was from Mt Kenya . He just kissed Mt Kenya vote good bye and put his last nail in his coffin . This one you seem not get.
As for Gachagua impeachment let all support , it lowers threshold of impeachment , makes Ruto weaker , rejuvenates Mt Kenya and most importantly makes Ruto No 3 come 2027 elections .



You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2024, 10:04:32 AM
You overrate Mt kenya.
Ruto has gained kidogo from all small tribes.
Okay let assume for argument sake - 50% of 7M - is GEMA 3.5M  - or 25% of kenya - reality it less than that.

Adding 50K votes in all tu small tribes here and there - in 40 counties outside Mt kenya.
Do you know that is already 2M votes.

Ruto still need 1.5M votes - whoever is ready to become DPORK and has 1.5M votes - will get to deputize Ruto.

If Kindiki can snatch Mt kenya east - 1.5M - we give him.

If not - we give Raila or Kalonzo or maDVD.

Big mistake you make is like 1990s and 1980s - you are too INSULAR - you think kenya start and ends in Mt kenya.

Kenya ni kubwa!!!

Kenya dont want Kikuyu entitlement

RiggyG is being hunted like stray dog all over kenya - 300 MPS - infact outside few in Mt kenya - 99% of kenya outside Mt kenya want HIM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

People cannot stand Murima Murima Murima nonsense.

And Ruto has not even INJECTED.

RiggyG once out and if Ruto see Mt Kenya is out - he will INJECT - and rest of kenya will gang up and vote him - rather than another kikyyu thinking mt kenya.

Nairobi is same medicine.




I also want him impeached so that Ruto can become weaker ,what you dont get is Ruto was made President as his 49% of the vote which made him President was from Mt Kenya . He just kissed Mt Kenya vote good bye and put his last nail in his coffin . This one you seem not get.
As for Gachagua impeachment let all support , it lowers threshold of impeachment , makes Ruto weaker , rejuvenates Mt Kenya and most importantly makes Ruto No 3 come 2027 elections .



You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 04, 2024, 11:45:55 AM
Majority of Kenyans have no issue with Mt Kenya they have issues with Ruto .
No one wants to hear about Ruto due to mismanaging politics abetting corruption , politics of betrayal and thinking Kenyans are stupid just like you are thinking .
Even here in Nipate ask anyone supporting Ruto expect you Pundit you alter ego Lewela  and RVHH no one else .


You overrate Mt kenya.
Ruto has gained kidogo from all small tribes.
Okay let assume for argument sake - 50% of 7M - is GEMA 3.5M  - or 25% of kenya - reality it less than that.

Adding 50K votes in all tu small tribes here and there - in 40 counties outside Mt kenya.
Do you know that is already 2M votes.

Ruto still need 1.5M votes - whoever is ready to become DPORK and has 1.5M votes - will get to deputize Ruto.

If Kindiki can snatch Mt kenya east - 1.5M - we give him.

If not - we give Raila or Kalonzo or maDVD.

Big mistake you make is like 1990s and 1980s - you are too INSULAR - you think kenya start and ends in Mt kenya.

Kenya ni kubwa!!!

Kenya dont want Kikuyu entitlement

RiggyG is being hunted like stray dog all over kenya - 300 MPS - infact outside few in Mt kenya - 99% of kenya outside Mt kenya want HIM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

People cannot stand Murima Murima Murima nonsense.

And Ruto has not even INJECTED.

RiggyG once out and if Ruto see Mt Kenya is out - he will INJECT - and rest of kenya will gang up and vote him - rather than another kikyyu thinking mt kenya.

Nairobi is same medicine.




I also want him impeached so that Ruto can become weaker ,what you dont get is Ruto was made President as his 49% of the vote which made him President was from Mt Kenya . He just kissed Mt Kenya vote good bye and put his last nail in his coffin . This one you seem not get.
As for Gachagua impeachment let all support , it lowers threshold of impeachment , makes Ruto weaker , rejuvenates Mt Kenya and most importantly makes Ruto No 3 come 2027 elections .



You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2024, 12:07:03 PM
You live in your own bubble.
Majority of Kenyans have no issue with Mt Kenya they have issues with Ruto .
No one wants to hear about Ruto due to mismanaging politics abetting corruption , politics of betrayal and thinking Kenyans are stupid just like you are thinking .
Even here in Nipate ask anyone supporting Ruto expect you Pundit you alter ego Lewela  and RVHH no one else .


You overrate Mt kenya.
Ruto has gained kidogo from all small tribes.
Okay let assume for argument sake - 50% of 7M - is GEMA 3.5M  - or 25% of kenya - reality it less than that.

Adding 50K votes in all tu small tribes here and there - in 40 counties outside Mt kenya.
Do you know that is already 2M votes.

Ruto still need 1.5M votes - whoever is ready to become DPORK and has 1.5M votes - will get to deputize Ruto.

If Kindiki can snatch Mt kenya east - 1.5M - we give him.

If not - we give Raila or Kalonzo or maDVD.

Big mistake you make is like 1990s and 1980s - you are too INSULAR - you think kenya start and ends in Mt kenya.

Kenya ni kubwa!!!

Kenya dont want Kikuyu entitlement

RiggyG is being hunted like stray dog all over kenya - 300 MPS - infact outside few in Mt kenya - 99% of kenya outside Mt kenya want HIM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

People cannot stand Murima Murima Murima nonsense.

And Ruto has not even INJECTED.

RiggyG once out and if Ruto see Mt Kenya is out - he will INJECT - and rest of kenya will gang up and vote him - rather than another kikyyu thinking mt kenya.

Nairobi is same medicine.




I also want him impeached so that Ruto can become weaker ,what you dont get is Ruto was made President as his 49% of the vote which made him President was from Mt Kenya . He just kissed Mt Kenya vote good bye and put his last nail in his coffin . This one you seem not get.
As for Gachagua impeachment let all support , it lowers threshold of impeachment , makes Ruto weaker , rejuvenates Mt Kenya and most importantly makes Ruto No 3 come 2027 elections .



You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 04, 2024, 03:44:30 PM
You talk about yourself ….
So according to you Ruto is very popular ?

You live in your own bubble.
Majority of Kenyans have no issue with Mt Kenya they have issues with Ruto .
No one wants to hear about Ruto due to mismanaging politics abetting corruption , politics of betrayal and thinking Kenyans are stupid just like you are thinking .
Even here in Nipate ask anyone supporting Ruto expect you Pundit you alter ego Lewela  and RVHH no one else .


You overrate Mt kenya.
Ruto has gained kidogo from all small tribes.
Okay let assume for argument sake - 50% of 7M - is GEMA 3.5M  - or 25% of kenya - reality it less than that.

Adding 50K votes in all tu small tribes here and there - in 40 counties outside Mt kenya.
Do you know that is already 2M votes.

Ruto still need 1.5M votes - whoever is ready to become DPORK and has 1.5M votes - will get to deputize Ruto.

If Kindiki can snatch Mt kenya east - 1.5M - we give him.

If not - we give Raila or Kalonzo or maDVD.

Big mistake you make is like 1990s and 1980s - you are too INSULAR - you think kenya start and ends in Mt kenya.

Kenya ni kubwa!!!

Kenya dont want Kikuyu entitlement

RiggyG is being hunted like stray dog all over kenya - 300 MPS - infact outside few in Mt kenya - 99% of kenya outside Mt kenya want HIM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE.

People cannot stand Murima Murima Murima nonsense.

And Ruto has not even INJECTED.

RiggyG once out and if Ruto see Mt Kenya is out - he will INJECT - and rest of kenya will gang up and vote him - rather than another kikyyu thinking mt kenya.

Nairobi is same medicine.




I also want him impeached so that Ruto can become weaker ,what you dont get is Ruto was made President as his 49% of the vote which made him President was from Mt Kenya . He just kissed Mt Kenya vote good bye and put his last nail in his coffin . This one you seem not get.
As for Gachagua impeachment let all support , it lowers threshold of impeachment , makes Ruto weaker , rejuvenates Mt Kenya and most importantly makes Ruto No 3 come 2027 elections .



You dont get it , Dont you …..

3 mps ...tuko 288... threshold ni 235.
yes I don't get how RiggyG can survive impeachment
Title: Re: Mt Kenya MPs blame Ruto for Gachagua's impeachment-
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2024, 05:37:33 PM
Ruto vs Gachagua Ruto wins
Ruto vs Kalonzo  Ruto wins
Ruto vs Raila - 50-50

Ruto vs Jesus - Ruto loses

You talk about yourself ….
So according to you Ruto is very popular ?