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Title: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Githunguri on September 10, 2024, 11:42:11 PM
https://x.com/Ali_Manzu/status/1833585268311658852
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Georgesoros on September 11, 2024, 02:48:15 AM
They already lease fertile land to Saudis, and now the airport??
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Post by: patel on September 11, 2024, 03:49:50 AM
Ruto missed a golden opportunity during Gen Z protest. He could have reformed, get rid of incompetent and corrupt thugs in the government like Murkomen but instead he chose confrontation politics. It will be crisis after crisis in UDA-ODM government until 2027. Culminating to a heavily contested Presidential election that will lead to violence. We are on a very dangerous path. Totally unchartered territory. Handshake or bread based government cannot fix this!
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 11, 2024, 04:02:35 AM
Ruto thought that he was going to bring back Moi error politics of division and nyakuaring. It was supposed to be greed and gluttony for him and his friends, it was to bring him close financially to the people he admires the most, the Kenyattas and Moi’s. He forgot that he is leading an era of information and enlightenment, a simple whistleblower can send people in the streets. The people have also learned the power of anger, not everything that happens is God’s will, the churches cannot hide and make Kenyans act like lambs. People have to start asking questions like “ why are 100 kids dead in a dorm fire, who is responsible?” They cannot run to churches to pray. Kenya will change and like Patel said, from here on, its crisis after crisis. I also agree that 2027 looks very dicey, if elections are stolen, we are done, declared bankrupt and ready to be auctioned to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Githunguri on September 11, 2024, 09:40:38 AM
https://x.com/citizentvkenya/status/1833742300771467566

He has deployed goons to beat Airport  workers
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 10:27:04 AM

When he gave Caleb Kositany Chairman of Kenya Airports Authority and Put Murkomen as CS Transport then replaced  him with the crafty Chichir I knew there was something Fishy or should I say Mursiky …..

Quote from: Fairandbalanced on September 11, 2024, 04:02:35 AM
Ruto thought that he was going to bring back Moi error politics of division and nyakuaring. It was supposed to be greed and gluttony for him and his friends, it was to bring him close financially to the people he admires the most, the Kenyattas and Moi’s. He forgot that he is leading an era of information and enlightenment, a simple whistleblower can send people in the streets. The people have also learned the power of anger, not everything that happens is God’s will, the churches cannot hide and make Kenyans act like lambs. People have to start asking questions like “ why are 100 kids dead in a dorm fire, who is responsible?” They cannot run to churches to pray. Kenya will change and like Patel said, from here on, its crisis after crisis. I also agree that 2027 looks very dicey, if elections are stolen, we are done, declared bankrupt and ready to be auctioned to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 10:32:21 AM
https://x.com/RodgersKipembe/status/1833767833777414381/video/1
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Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 10:38:03 AM
Chirchir should fire those KAA and hire new ones. Adani are promising to invest 2.5B dollars. This world 11th richest man. Ignore the noise and proceed to negotiate a good deal for kenya.

We have proposal - negotiate with Adani - share the proposed contract to kenyans - and if it good - sign.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Fairandbalanced on September 11, 2024, 11:36:08 AM
This guy.. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8JGXEHJ/
Same guy… https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-adani-shares-see-extended-sell-off-credit-warnings-kick-2023-02-06/
Hutu ni mwizi mbaya no wonder Ruto found him, people with this kind of money are heavily invested in the west, he is targeting dirt poor Africa.. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/06/crisis-at-adani-group-intensifies-as-indian-activists-stage-protests
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Kadudu on September 11, 2024, 11:55:12 AM
The Adani deal stinks like hell. No wonder it took a whistleblower to uncover this deal to fellow Kenyans. So when was the Kenya government planning to inform the citizens of this country about this deal if November is the deadline for signing it?

As for Pundit telling his clansmen to continue looting state coffers, it will not end well for your clansmen. Wakenya wamegutuka. Kenya of 2024 is not that of 2013 when Uhuru could steal SGR money and get away with it.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 02:35:22 PM

He proposes to invest around 200B for a 30 year plan and later have an equity of 18 % eternally .
Just check hoe much the airport generates yearly . It really doesnt make sense .
Then rumours are Rutto has Pocketted a Billion out of the deal and the rest take all the share of the other Billion .
It wont end up well …….Even Uhurrus uncle just ate slowly from revenue and projects not selling or giving away the airport . This is on another level

Quote from: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 10:38:03 AM
Chirchir should fire those KAA and hire new ones. Adani are promising to invest 2.5B dollars. This world 11th richest man. Ignore the noise and proceed to negotiate a good deal for kenya.

We have proposal - negotiate with Adani - share the proposed contract to kenyans - and if it good - sign.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Kadudu on September 11, 2024, 03:30:39 PM
Even the illiterates in Kenya would not sign such a deal. Is there any trade agreement that is signed for eternity? Which stupid Kalejin negotiated this deal?

Quote from: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 02:35:22 PM

He proposes to invest around 200B for a 30 year plan and later have an equity of 18 % eternally  :o.
Just check hoe much the airport generates yearly . It really doesnt make sense .
Then rumours are Rutto has Pocketted a Billion out of the deal and the rest take all the share of the other Billion .
It wont end up well …….Even Uhurrus uncle just ate slowly from revenue and projects not selling or giving away the airport . This is on another level
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: audacityofhope on September 11, 2024, 03:45:11 PM
Quote from: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 02:35:22 PM

He proposes to invest around 200B for a 30 year plan and later have an equity of 18 % eternally .
Just check hoe much the airport generates yearly . It really doesnt make sense .
Then rumours are Rutto has Pocketted a Billion out of the deal and the rest take all the share of the other Billion .
It wont end up well …….Even Uhurrus uncle just ate slowly from revenue and projects not selling or giving away the airport . This is on another level

Quote from: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 10:38:03 AM
Chirchir should fire those KAA and hire new ones. Adani are promising to invest 2.5B dollars. This world 11th richest man. Ignore the noise and proceed to negotiate a good deal for kenya.

We have proposal - negotiate with Adani - share the proposed contract to kenyans - and if it good - sign.

Eti who ate slowly? You call that heist by 2 people 'eating slowly'. I hear the International community is investigating the Eurobond. The outcome will not be a surprise but it will shock many. I fail to understand why you criticize folks but being a Pointy, anything touching of putin or the kyuk guy words suddenly fail you. Look, Luto's whole work history is Kenya Government, so it goes without any rocket science thinking that he just wanted to do what his predecessors did only that he reckoned he would top them  all but did't realize, round the Bend the GenZ wth rungu were waiting to disrupt his selfish plans. The JKiA s was to be his heist in similar fashion to the Expressway where for 30 years someone wll keep earnng and never be broke.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 04:29:12 PM
It a proposals. They start high - then negotiate down. We already got Adani Energy to build us some electricity connection.

Investors should be given red carpet.

It not easy to attract the Adanis.

Negotiation should be done - by competent team

Quote from: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 02:35:22 PM

He proposes to invest around 200B for a 30 year plan and later have an equity of 18 % eternally .
Just check hoe much the airport generates yearly . It really doesnt make sense .
Then rumours are Rutto has Pocketted a Billion out of the deal and the rest take all the share of the other Billion .
It wont end up well …….Even Uhurrus uncle just ate slowly from revenue and projects not selling or giving away the airport . This is on another level

Quote from: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 10:38:03 AM
Chirchir should fire those KAA and hire new ones. Adani are promising to invest 2.5B dollars. This world 11th richest man. Ignore the noise and proceed to negotiate a good deal for kenya.

We have proposal - negotiate with Adani - share the proposed contract to kenyans - and if it good - sign.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: RV Pundit on September 11, 2024, 04:30:28 PM
There is no deal.
ADANI sent a proposal.
KAA and Treasury are studying it.
They will be negotiation on the terms.
Identify all those terms you dont like - during Public Participation stages.

So hold your horses.

Quote from: Kadudu on September 11, 2024, 03:30:39 PM
Even the illiterates in Kenya would not sign such a deal. Is there any trade agreement that is signed for eternity? Which stupid Kalejin negotiated this deal?

Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: sema on September 11, 2024, 04:31:50 PM
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He could have reformed, get rid of incompetent and corrupt thugs in the government like Murkomen but instead he chose confrontation politics. It will be crisis after crisis in UDA-ODM government until 2027. Culminating to a heavily contested Presidential election that will lead to violence. We are on a very dangerous path. Totally unchartered territory. Handshake or bread based government cannot fix this!

Yes, the election in 2027 will be very dangerous.  The question is, why isn't Ruto getting it? My answer is that Ruto believes he is the smartest man in the room and his arrogance and ego will eventually catch up with him.

I think had JKIA been taken over by Germans or Japanese, Kenyans would have been fine with it, but Indians? no.

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There is no deal.
ADANI sent a proposal.

Then why are they pictures online of the Adani group employees all over JKIA?
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 05:28:25 PM
https://x.com/RodgersKipembe/status/1833776718554763561?t=3mncNU8_FxPF2e6pJB5WZQ&s=08
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 05:31:39 PM
 https://x.com/moneyacademyKE/status/1833752350177063248


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Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 05:43:45 PM
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Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 06:06:58 PM
We have managed to uncover some of the shocking terms in the agreement with Adani Airport Holdings Ltd.

Thread below.

Share it widely:
The agreement with Adani Airport Holdings Ltd specifies that any interruptions due to court actions, parliamentary decisions, or protests will require Adani to be compensated for both losses and anticipated profits.

Disputes will be resolved through international arbitration in London, with hearings held in Mauritius
Under Adani’s proposal, KAA employees may need to renegotiate their contracts, with potential job losses for some.

Adani will hire only a portion of the current workforce under new terms and conditions, and seeks to employ non-Kenyan workers
Tax Exemptions and Financial Arrangements:

The concessionaire is eligible for tax breaks on corporate income for any 10 years within the first 15 years of the Airport and CSD Concessions.
All financial matters, including revenues, expenses, insurance, and security deposits, will be transferred to the concessionaire.

Adani is also seeking favorable tax policies, including exemptions from corporate tax for specific years
On the Air Passenger Service Charge Act
The Air Passenger Service Charge Act sets a service charge of USD 50 for international flights and Sh600 for domestic flights.
Revenue from this charge is divided among Kenya Airports Authority (KAA) (60% for international and 50% for domestic flights), the Kenya Civil Aviation Authority, and the Tourism Promotion Fund.
Adani’s proposal includes amending this Act to allow it to set charge amounts and retain the share usually allocated to KAA. The concessionaire will also manage the collection of these charges.
Adani Airport Holdings Ltd will take control of all non-aeronautical assets at JKIA from the Effective Date.

The company will handle all operations and financial transactions related to the airport.

Adani plans to set its own service charges and ensure an equity (IRR) of 18%, which is essential for the project's success and profitability.
Adani plans to invest ($1.85 billion in upgrading (JKIA).

This investment aims to significantly boost revenue, projected to rise from $163 million in 2025 to $1.2 billion by 2054.

The proposal includes a new passenger terminal, a second runway, and refurbishing existing facilities, marking the first major overhaul of JKIA in 46 years.
Revenue Sources:
As the concessionaire for JKIA, Adani expects to earn revenue from:

—Aeronautical Charges:
—Landing fees
—parking fees
—boarding bridge charges
—passenger service charges.
Non-Aeronautical Sources:
—Duty-free shops
—Food and beverage outlets
—Retail stores and vending machines
—Lounges
—Advertising and sponsorships
—Parking and transportation facilities
—Hotels and transit
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Georgesoros on September 11, 2024, 06:14:24 PM
Indians will bring Indians. They will be sitting eating at the table while Kenyans look to serve those tables.
Never ever met a wealthy Indian who does not practice Nepotism.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 06:18:55 PM
This deal stinks to the highest order…..
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Kadudu on September 11, 2024, 06:31:03 PM
Even the dukawala in Kisumu will bring his nephew from India to look after his kiosk. You can imagine what Adani will do to JKIA.

Quote from: Georgesoros on September 11, 2024, 06:14:24 PM
Indians will bring Indians. They will be sitting eating at the table while Kenyans look to serve those tables.
Never ever met a wealthy Indian who does not practice Nepotism.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Georgesoros on September 11, 2024, 06:32:27 PM
most of the good jobs will go to Indians.
How come Asian Tigers dont outsource their countries?
There is a lot of arable land in phillipines, thailand etc and yet Arabs come to africa.
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 11, 2024, 07:37:25 PM
Title: Re: JKIA Go slow.
Post by: Georgesoros on September 11, 2024, 10:17:06 PM
Ruto has ego. He will never stop. Kenya will have to wrestle it out of adani hands later
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Post by: Georgesoros on September 18, 2024, 03:17:44 PM
These guys are out to make money not build lives.
They are not FORD
Elon never gives money to charity.

Consider JKIA deal minimal progress in 30yrs.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-gautam-adani-jensen-164710721.html