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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on August 08, 2024, 05:56:44 PM
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should be tried with treason and bankrupted.
https://x.com/LinusKaikai/status/1821537545596936516
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About to make him the anointed one ……. Rutos regime is so amateurish……….
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You're free to make him your leader after police are finished with him. Ruto hayupo
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Same way we made Ruto our leader before he miscalculated on his economic policies and anti-thesis of He doesnt believe in Handshake and he would never form a Government with Raila.
Ruto will be No 3 come 2027 , Lets see if he will form a Coalition Government with Raila.
You're free to make him your leader after police are finished with him. Ruto hayupo
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Same way we made Ruto our leader before he miscalculated on his economic policies and anti-thesis of He doesnt believe in Handshake and he would never form a Government with Raila.
Ruto will be No 3 come 2027 , Lets see if he will form a Coalition Government with Raila.
You're free to make him your leader after police are finished with him. Ruto hayupo
made Ruto...silly boy..he was already 10yrs as deputy president part of which he was urp leader n coalition partner..led nos in 2010 to score 30 percent
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Ruto was kalenjin leader by 2005. That 20yrs ago. You didn't make Ruto. Eldoret north people nurtured him in 97 then moi then kalenjin. Mt kenya was icing on the cake .. before that he was odm top leader. Ruto been influential national leader for years n used uhuru
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Ruto is just buying time, his presidency is done and he knows it. I know by 2027 Raila will be out of this skunk and running again, he is already trying to wiggle himself out. He will convince the idiots that he at least was able to force a coalition government and therefore will keep his base of coast, Luo Nyanza and western. A third force will emerge around the Gen Z voters who are the majority in Kenya. Ruto with his Kale votes will not even make it to second round. The only way out for Ruto is rigging, he doesn’t have enough time to cause any significant economic changes that will directly affect Kenyans.
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Fact is if it wasnt for Mt Kenya he would have been floored really badly by Raila , same is if it wasnt for Ruto Uhuru would have not won 2013 and 2017 elections . These are facts . Facts are stubborn . Another fact is Ruto has had to kiss Railas ass in order to survive politically something he would not have imagined just a year ago.
Same way we made Ruto our leader before he miscalculated on his economic policies and anti-thesis of He doesnt believe in Handshake and he would never form a Government with Raila.
Ruto will be No 3 come 2027 , Lets see if he will form a Coalition Government with Raila.
You're free to make him your leader after police are finished with him. Ruto hayupo
made Ruto...silly boy..he was already 10yrs as deputy president part of which he was urp leader n coalition partner..led nos in 2010 to score 30 percent
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Yes he is back being a Kalenjin leader having rode on changing kenyas political scene from politics of Kingmanship to politics of ideas from tribal politics yo politics of Mama mboga. It took him some miscalculation and the youth to revert back to tribal politics and handshake politics . He is a failure .
Ruto was kalenjin leader by 2005. That 20yrs ago. You didn't make Ruto. Eldoret north people nurtured him in 97 then moi then kalenjin. Mt kenya was icing on the cake .. before that he was odm top leader. Ruto been influential national leader for years n used uhuru
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Ruto will be Number 3 by default , Raila knows it and perhaps has a plan for him in a rerun .
Ruto is just buying time, his presidency is done and he knows it. I know by 2027 Raila will be out of this skunk and running again, he is already trying to wiggle himself out. He will convince the idiots that he at least was able to force a coalition government and therefore will keep his base of coast, Luo Nyanza and western. A third force will emerge around the Gen Z voters who are the majority in Kenya. Ruto with his Kale votes will not even make it to second round. The only way out for Ruto is rigging, he doesn’t have enough time to cause any significant economic changes that will directly affect Kenyans.
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Meanwhile 😛 he is president donge
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There was a time Raila was Prime Minister ……
Meanwhile 😛 he is president donge
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Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
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With the new constitution its nearly impossible , Gachagua is still Rutos henchman , Kambas will never be on the same side with GEMA , Kambas internalized betrayal , Raila betrayed them twice and they still supported him in 2022.
They will still support him come 2027 or become No 4, Raila will be No 2 and Ruto will be No 3 realizing he is just a Kalenjin leader simoly because he miscalculated big time……
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
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Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
Never heard of ARA
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With the new constitution its nearly impossible , Gachagua is still Rutos henchman , Kambas will never be on the same side with GEMA , Kambas internalized betrayal , Raila betrayed them twice and they still supported him in 2022.
They will still support him come 2027 or become No 4, Raila will be No 2 and Ruto will be No 3 realizing he is just a Kalenjin leader simoly because he miscalculated big time……
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
No 1 will be a Kikuyu. Mwenda wa Zimu kweli.
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Usually, govt arrests someone after an investigation. Does this mean they did an investigation?
Also I saw some thuggish looking young people arresting someone on the streets. Am not sure such people know what law is?
The only reason they got the job is because they know someone in govt.
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Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
Most dont like Kikuyu elite, but Ruto's anarchy has pushed them to defend themselves. Mungiki might be revived???
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All I know is that Ruto is a one term president if not half term and in 2027, if it’s Ruto vs Raila( please God save us from this nightmare) Kimundu will win this time.
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2024-08-09-raila-arrives-at-jimi-wanjigis-muthaiga-home/
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This is a very good move for ruto opponents,Just milk it to make propaganda,
1) just show how Ruto uses impunity to deal with his opponent and portray him as a monster.
2) Wanjigi is GEMA,Ask why Ruto is attacking GEMA leaders politically from Uhuru Gachagua and now GEMA billionaires like Wanjigi.Just create fictional stories on radio and blogs.Wanjigi is also supporting G3Nz which Ruto is cracking down.
The more these stories,the more ruto looses votes.In politics even a single vote is very important.
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Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
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Wanjigi must be dealt with ruthlessly. Ruto has been too nice.
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Where as Raila visited Wanjigi today …. These people know each other dearly , you continue crying ……
Wanjigi must be dealt with ruthlessly. Ruto has been too nice.
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Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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That one chewed Wanjigi billions and made him a pauper.
Where as Raila visited Wanjigi today …. These people know each other dearly , you continue crying ……
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Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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You never get tired of getting wrong.
Politics for you is what you see is what you get.
I have no problem with genuine GEMA or Kalenjin business men.
I support James Mwangi 100%.
I have no time for Jimmy Wanjigis or Kenyattas or the Mois or Ndegwas.
Its up to Ruto to decide - he cannot become a people pleaser - he already seen the last two years what happened.
He nows must use the sword - and bring down kenya enemies.
Good thing - Wanjigis and the likes are already outside the eating table.
Should we follow them - and finish them - or leave them.
I think It will be a mistake to leave esp Kenyattas.
Angola new president finished Dos Santos.
Botswana president finished the Khamas.
Ruto is not handing ODM 7 Cabinet Cs for nothing.
I hope he is preparing for night of long knives - Kenyattas are now exposed - though RiggyG is trying to protect them.
I say we take them out plus RiggyG.
Its up to Ruto to do the necessary or become softie - and wait to be finished by them.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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Wanjigi billions were chewed by Ruto and Uhuru hence the rage against them ……..Wanjigi and Raila go back to Young Turks days . He helped him escape Nyayoists like you and went to exile ……
That one chewed Wanjigi billions and made him a pauper.
Where as Raila visited Wanjigi today …. These people know each other dearly , you continue crying ……
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Economy doing well.
You dont know politics beyond hating Raila.
Ruto has no competition now for 2027.
Maybe your candidate will eventually spring up from nowhere
And win like Nowayaha.
Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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Wanjigi finance UhuRuto - and drank water.
He financed Raila - and drank water.
Before 2005- Wanjigi was a NOBODY.
He was nowhere in the young Turk era.
Young turk era is Raila generation of 70-80s.
Wanjigi and Uhuru in 1990s were just silly kids drinking.
He started making money in Kibaki regime when he and Alfred Gitonga took over Gideon Moi angloleasing deals and continued with them.
Then brought the Chinese and made money.
But for 10yrs now - he's been out of the eating trough - and can only sponsors Eric Omondi to do periodic demos.
He is looking at another decade - of no money from GOK.
But his father passed away - and he may soon get inheritance.
Wanjigi billions were chewed by Ruto and Uhuru hence the rage against them ……..Wanjigi and Raila go back to Young Turks days . He helped him escape Nyayoists like you and went to exile ……
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Yes Economy doing well indeed when Kenya is in the brink of defaulting , you are beyond redemption.
I dont hate Raila , I just dont subscribe to his kind of politics , politics of betrayal , handshake/cooperation/gran coalition broad based politics. Which now Ruto has subscribed to , an anti thesis . FYI I adored Raila from 1992 till 1999 before he joined hands with KANU . His father is one of my Ultimate hero .
Economy doing well.
You dont know politics beyond hating Raila.
Ruto has no competition now for 2027.
Maybe your candidate will eventually spring up from nowhere
And win like Nowayaha.
Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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Well you can mock my record - however both you and Pundit polar opposites cannot be right. Rutonomics is dead but that never stopped Moi big non-Gema alliance from winning.
I think Pundit is equally wrong on Ruto "finishing" RiggyG or Kenyattas with impeachment or bankruptcy - because that would obviously solidify Gema unity. Attrition or containment is what I can see playing out.
Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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Wanjigi was so involved with Matiba in that era one of his organizers/assistant You know nothing of the underground movement then .
There is a reason Raila always comes out defending Wanjigi even today he was besides him even having formed a government with Ruto., simply because of their history back during rallying for Multi Party .
As foe starting making money you forget his association with Saitoti , his father made money during kenyatta /Mois era and The son continued during Moi era specifically after Saitoti made it back as VP .
Wanjigi finance UhuRuto - and drank water.
He financed Raila - and drank water.
Before 2005- Wanjigi was a NOBODY.
He was nowhere in the young Turk era.
Young turk era is Raila generation of 70-80s.
Wanjigi and Uhuru in 1990s were just silly kids drinking.
He started making money in Kibaki regime when he and Alfred Gitonga took over Gideon Moi angloleasing deals and continued with them.
Then brought the Chinese and made money.
But for 10yrs now - he's been out of the eating trough - and can only sponsors Eric Omondi to do periodic demos.
He is looking at another decade - of no money from GOK.
But his father passed away - and he may soon get inheritance.
Wanjigi billions were chewed by Ruto and Uhuru hence the rage against them ……..Wanjigi and Raila go back to Young Turks days . He helped him escape Nyayoists like you and went to exile ……
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Ruto has steered the ship to safety.
Goon Z did try to sink it but ODM have come to steady it.
As long as you hate Raila - you're just a typical GEMA man of the village - your emotions and hatred cloud your judgement.
You cannot analyse politics because Raila occupies half your brain.
So you engage in wishful thinking.
Yes Economy doing well indeed when Kenya is in the brink of defaulting , you are beyond redemption.
I dont hate Raila , I just dont subscribe to his kind of politics , politics of betrayal , handshake/cooperation/gran coalition broad based politics. Which now Ruto has subscribed to , an anti thesis . FYI I adored Raila from 1992 till 1999 before he joined hands with KANU . His father is one of my Ultimate hero .
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I doubt that story very much.
It total bollox.
Wanjigi made money during Kibaki regime.
And he foolish tried to take Uhuru over SGR - when Ruto told him to leave it for the boss.
Ohoo Uhuru was my friend in St Mary and he wasn't even bright - Uhuru took him down - banned him for a decade.
In his naivety he backed Raila twice - and spent billions - FALA SANA.
He got so broke -
Again Ruto told him In 2022 to back him - he decide to go his own way.
Now he is looking at 10yrs -
Soon he will start selling his father properties.
Hakuna mtu hapo.
Wanjigi was so involved with Matiba in that era one of his organizers/assistant You know nothing of the underground movement then .
There is a reason Raila always comes out defending Wanjigi even today he was besides him even having formed a government with Ruto., simply because of their history back during rallying for Multi Party .
As foe starting making money you forget his association with Saitoti , his father made money during kenyatta /Mois era and The son continued during Moi era specifically after Saitoti made it back as VP .
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Exactly Ruto has no competition for 2027. What the rationale to go to war with Gema?
Economy doing well.
You dont know politics beyond hating Raila.
Ruto has no competition now for 2027.
Maybe your candidate will eventually spring up from nowhere
And win like Nowayaha.
Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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He is not going to war with GEMA but with RiggyG and Kenyattas.
Otherwise, he prepares to share power with either.
Raila has taken 7 CS positions. Uhuru will need 10.
Ruto's biggest enemy remain Kenyattas and anyone backing him.
Ruto of course has PLAN B of maDVD and ODM - but PLAN A is to keep GEMA somehow - Ndidi Nyoro or Kindiki - can easily replace RiggyG without GEMA losing a bit.
Exactly Ruto has no competition for 2027. What the rationale to go to war with Gema?
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Go back to archives , Pudit was never right , first he thought Uhuru was playing Raila we told him no forget Uhuru supporting Ruto in 2022 wont happen .
Secondly he thought GEMA would bolt out in supporting Ruto and started advocating Violence as means to coerce GEMA voting foe Ruto , he was wrong
Thirldy he thought Ruto was the second coming of Moi and he would get Mijikenda and North Eastern and Matusa easily , his perfomance i. Those areas was so bad that he was wondering how even Uhuru perfomed better than Ruto in 2013 and 2017.
Now Im telling you Ruto will be no 3 come 2027 watch this space …..
Well you can mock my record - however both you and Pundit polar opposites cannot be right. Rutonomics is dead but that never stopped Moi big non-Gema alliance from winning.
I think Pundit is equally wrong on Ruto "finishing" RiggyG or Kenyattas with impeachment or bankruptcy - because that would obviously solidify Gema unity. Attrition or containment is what I can see playing out.
Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
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Spin all the lies you can.
I never thought Uhuru was foolish to take on Ruto - turn out he was and now he is hiding in Dubai with his family.
Ruto just need to complete the job - and take Kenyatta illegal wealth.
Ruto URP already won those areas - Kwale Governor ni UDA - how many MPS from Maa, Somalis, etc.
All the politics you know is GEMA hating Raila. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Then Ruto without GEMA is nothing :) .
That is how your brain works. Just a typical village brain.
Go back to archives , Pudit was never right , first he thought Uhuru was playing Raila we told him no forget Uhuru supporting Ruto in 2022 wont happen .
Secondly he thought GEMA would bolt out in supporting Ruto and started advocating Violence as means to coerce GEMA voting foe Ruto , he was wrong
Thirldy he thought Ruto was the second coming of Moi and he would get Mijikenda and North Eastern and Matusa easily , his perfomance i. Those areas was so bad that he was wondering how even Uhuru perfomed better than Ruto in 2013 and 2017.
Now Im telling you Ruto will be no 3 come 2027 watch this space …..
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RiggyG has already wedged out Gema.. impeachment or such moves will land them into his grip. Ruto knows this. A by-election in Gema today would be very problematic for Ruto.
I agree Ruto 2027 cannot be nearly beaten by Riggy unknown party and Wiper :D That classic Noway who cannot tell us WHO will be no 1 and 2 so that Ruto is distant 3rd? At least Githunguri has a clear lineup.
He is not going to war with GEMA but with RiggyG and Kenyattas.
Otherwise, he prepares to share power with either.
Raila has taken 7 CS positions. Uhuru will need 10.
Ruto's biggest enemy remain Kenyattas and anyone backing him.
Ruto of course has PLAN B of maDVD and ODM - but PLAN A is to keep GEMA somehow - Ndidi Nyoro or Kindiki - can easily replace RiggyG without GEMA losing a bit.
Exactly Ruto has no competition for 2027. What the rationale to go to war with Gema?
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When you and RVHH were praising Riggy G last year for his loyalty and attacks on Raila , I was pinpointing Ruto will be in deep problem due to his economic policies . It has come to pass .
Again when you and Robina see Rigathi as a threat Im pointing out Rigathi is not a factor in Kenyan politics for that matter also not a factor in GEMA politics . He is a Rutos apointee.
When I say Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2 you still cant see what I can see. In 2027 you will remember
Spin all the lies you can.
I never thought Uhuru was foolish to take on Ruto - turn out he was and now he is hiding in Dubai with his family.
Ruto just need to complete the job - and take Kenyatta illegal wealth.
Ruto URP already won those areas - Kwale Governor ni UDA - how many MPS from Maa, Somalis, etc.
All the politics you know is GEMA hating Raila. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Then Ruto without GEMA is nothing :) .
That is how your brain works. Just a typical village brain.
Go back to archives , Pudit was never right , first he thought Uhuru was playing Raila we told him no forget Uhuru supporting Ruto in 2022 wont happen .
Secondly he thought GEMA would bolt out in supporting Ruto and started advocating Violence as means to coerce GEMA voting foe Ruto , he was wrong
Thirldy he thought Ruto was the second coming of Moi and he would get Mijikenda and North Eastern and Matusa easily , his perfomance i. Those areas was so bad that he was wondering how even Uhuru perfomed better than Ruto in 2013 and 2017.
Now Im telling you Ruto will be no 3 come 2027 watch this space …..
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Who will be No 1?
When you and RVHH were praising Riggy G last year for his loyalty and attacks on Raila , I was pinpointing Ruto will be in deep problem due to his economic policies . It has come to pass .
Again when you and Robina see Rigathi as a threat Im pointing out Rigathi is not a factor in Kenyan politics for that matter also not a factor in GEMA politics . He is a Rutos apointee.
When I say Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2 you still cant see what I can see. In 2027 you will remember
Spin all the lies you can.
I never thought Uhuru was foolish to take on Ruto - turn out he was and now he is hiding in Dubai with his family.
Ruto just need to complete the job - and take Kenyatta illegal wealth.
Ruto URP already won those areas - Kwale Governor ni UDA - how many MPS from Maa, Somalis, etc.
All the politics you know is GEMA hating Raila. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Then Ruto without GEMA is nothing :) .
That is how your brain works. Just a typical village brain.
Go back to archives , Pudit was never right , first he thought Uhuru was playing Raila we told him no forget Uhuru supporting Ruto in 2022 wont happen .
Secondly he thought GEMA would bolt out in supporting Ruto and started advocating Violence as means to coerce GEMA voting foe Ruto , he was wrong
Thirldy he thought Ruto was the second coming of Moi and he would get Mijikenda and North Eastern and Matusa easily , his perfomance i. Those areas was so bad that he was wondering how even Uhuru perfomed better than Ruto in 2013 and 2017.
Now Im telling you Ruto will be no 3 come 2027 watch this space …..
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Robina go back to our debates of 2022, I supported Ruto but can tell you frankly he is done , 2027 he will be No 3 . Gachagua is a non factor , he is a Ruto apointee a Ruto made man , he doesnt command any influence politically just like Mudavadi was made by Moi and faired badly in 2002 and 2013.
You seem to agree with me that Ruto can not save Kenyas economy and similarly cannot save himself . Kenya is in avery Big shithole and by Dec you will see for yourself.
Rutos biggest mistake were his economic policies once he came to power , the oil deals the capital flight , the borrowing he did so save the sinking shilling , punitive tax measures by the time he realised he had messed up GenZ were in the streets. Even giving Raila all Ministries wont save him. They are now planning a repeat BBI with Raila , It will only expose both of them.
You got everything wrong from 2018 to 2022 and you know think you can teach me pragmatism .
Remember when UDA won in Kwale by election and you went into exile crying .
We are politics listen when we say Ruto will be No 3 . He will be No 3 , listen when we say there will be a rerun come 2027 .
Ruto doesn't have sufficient tools to bankrupt or decapitate Gema akin to Moi in the 80s. The courts, media, mzungu, etc won't allow him. Gachagua has refused to do his dirty work of fighting Kenyattas and traitors will be hanged. Gema now includes Kamba.
How do you bankrupt GEMA without bankrupting Kenya, first its impossible and even stupid to entertain that Idea GEMA Is Kenya economy and vice versa.
I am responding to Pundit's tribal myopia - basically he has abandoned dispassion for diatribe and conflates his wishes with Ruto's.
I don't think Ruto is desperate enough to crash the economy for cheap politics. Like Moi. He is simply forming a non-Gema alliance easy peasy. It is easy to conceive that Gachagua is aiming to consolidate power for 2032. He is pragmatic - unlike Noway and F&B here.
It is Ruto then Gachagua going by the chess moves being made.
All this to say I dread universal suffrage democracy in Zamunda where economy and posterity are subservient to power and politics.
I agree with the economics part, also he has activey tried to interfere in the judiciary. Of all the bad things is that he has appointed corrupt pple who sell fake fertilizer etc.
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The whole saga is just politics to show the protests are being funded by Uhuru Wanjigi and Gachagua who are trying to remove Ruto from power..just Look at it from that angle while at the same time Ruto showing his supporters that he has control by sending thousands of police..just a circus.
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Wanjigi is trying too hard to own GEN Z movement. Staged. Gen Z have raised very valid issues that needs to be addressed. Unless economic issues and mainly employment issue is addressed soon demonstration will not go away.
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Yap.
I have many nieces and nephews college graduates who have had no jobs 5yra and counting after graduation. Then Ruto shows up with a 900 shs belt???, and on top of that hires corrupt pple who buy fake fertilizer that’s kills what my nephew was expecting as income
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Depends with how things turn out …I expect a BBI2 not unless the courts pulls out another suprise if indeed there will be one the leader who goes against Raila and Rutos Yes campaign will be the front runner . Similar to 2013 elections as we approach 2027 it will become more clear , However 2027 elections will be a rerun . A first though previously we have had a repeat .
Who will be No 1?
When you and RVHH were praising Riggy G last year for his loyalty and attacks on Raila , I was pinpointing Ruto will be in deep problem due to his economic policies . It has come to pass .
Again when you and Robina see Rigathi as a threat Im pointing out Rigathi is not a factor in Kenyan politics for that matter also not a factor in GEMA politics . He is a Rutos apointee.
When I say Ruto will be No 3 and Raila No 2 you still cant see what I can see. In 2027 you will remember
Spin all the lies you can.
I never thought Uhuru was foolish to take on Ruto - turn out he was and now he is hiding in Dubai with his family.
Ruto just need to complete the job - and take Kenyatta illegal wealth.
Ruto URP already won those areas - Kwale Governor ni UDA - how many MPS from Maa, Somalis, etc.
All the politics you know is GEMA hating Raila. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Then Ruto without GEMA is nothing :) .
That is how your brain works. Just a typical village brain.
Go back to archives , Pudit was never right , first he thought Uhuru was playing Raila we told him no forget Uhuru supporting Ruto in 2022 wont happen .
Secondly he thought GEMA would bolt out in supporting Ruto and started advocating Violence as means to coerce GEMA voting foe Ruto , he was wrong
Thirldy he thought Ruto was the second coming of Moi and he would get Mijikenda and North Eastern and Matusa easily , his perfomance i. Those areas was so bad that he was wondering how even Uhuru perfomed better than Ruto in 2013 and 2017.
Now Im telling you Ruto will be no 3 come 2027 watch this space …..