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Title: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 11:58:33 AM

Jaribu ulete hiyo impeachment
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 01:15:14 PM
Parliament is independent n both houses will decide when n if to table. Ruto hayuko hapo
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 01:31:59 PM
Parliament is independent n both houses will decide when n if to table. Ruto hayuko hapo

No GEMA MP or Senator will want to be part of that NONSENSE which will be like political suicide.Infact Ruto gains nothing FROM impeaching Gachagua,He looses more votes,more opposition and Raila will have an upper hand dealing with him.Isnt it just silly?
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 01:51:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 01:51:55 PM
Gema has 65 mps n 10 senators. They can't save Rigathi even if they wanted. Obviously majority don't like the small dictator.Ruto will replace him with Kindiki or nyoro or maDVD depending on reaction of gema. Kindiki everyone seems to like
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 02:12:40 PM

Moses Kuria joins in to defend Gachagua,Uhuru & Gachagua must consolidate Mt Kenya under one party,Any GEMA MP or Senator who dares impeach Gachagua,The ground is awaiting you.That will be the end of your political career.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 02:15:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
gate crushing kindiki rallies
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 02:20:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
gate crushing kindiki rallies

Of course yes.No time to spare him and his sycophants.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 02:24:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
gate crushing kindiki rallies

Of course yes.No time to spare him and his sycophants.
He should be busy buying mps until he has 133 of them... kalonzo 25 can't help him
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 02:39:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
gate crushing kindiki rallies

Of course yes.No time to spare him and his sycophants.
He should be busy buying mps until he has 133 of them... kalonzo 25 can't help him

Only statehouse can afford to buy Mps.Thuggery and extortionist politics cannot be dealt with in parliament but in the courts of public opinion.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 07, 2024, 02:48:47 PM
Ruto has NO CHANCE against Gachagua in Gema. They long bolted these are just nuances and pet-peeves. Airing dirty linen. A by-election will lay bare the obvious soon.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 07, 2024, 02:51:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/UD1_mxGXv_g?si=jaZtfIdkGjdmHfKw

Ruto went there to test the waters.He has gotten proper feedback.
gate crushing kindiki rallies

Of course yes.No time to spare him and his sycophants.
He should be busy buying mps until he has 133 of them... kalonzo 25 can't help him

Only statehouse can afford to buy Mps.Thuggery and extortionist politics cannot be dealt with in parliament but in the courts of public opinion.

Ruto knows it would stall in court till 2027 - and hand Gachagua fodder to TKO him.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 07, 2024, 03:03:14 PM
In the event Gachagua is impeached,The happiest man would be Raila odinga because GEMA will become Ruto biggest political rivals.After that,You will have Raila push his cabinet appointees start to give Ruto trouble and then resign to create political chaos.After that,you will have a coalition of LUO GEMA and Kamba protesting in the streets of Nairobi and across Kenya calling for the president of Kenya to resign and we very well know Ruto can't beat such a coalition.

Impeaching Gachagua or using Ndindi to cause GEMA rivalry doesn't make sense at all.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 04:23:58 PM
Ruto cut his teeth in KANU - and he saw how MOi beat such coalition before - and he knows he can beat them again and again.

Again it will come down to finding unifying candidate against Ruto.

Why would Luos or ODM move out of GOK to go back Gachagua or Kalonzo for the same deal :)

So the only deal for Raila is him to quit AU Chairperson to come and run as Azimio candidate of 2027.

GEMA would be moving out of UDA due to Raila to go back Raila :) That will be something.

In the event Gachagua is impeached,The happiest man would be Raila odinga because GEMA will become Ruto biggest political rivals.After that,You will have Raila push his cabinet appointees start to give Ruto trouble and then resign to create political chaos.After that,you will have a coalition of LUO GEMA and Kamba protesting in the streets of Nairobi and across Kenya calling for the president of Kenya to resign and we very well know Ruto can't beat such a coalition.

Impeaching Gachagua or using Ndindi to cause GEMA rivalry doesn't make sense at all.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 07, 2024, 04:45:09 PM
Na kuna watu huko Murima hawajui the self-appointed prefect wa Murima..alaa

https://x.com/sayafrica/status/1821153758425886741
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Fairandbalanced on August 07, 2024, 08:20:21 PM
All these people are going home, stop wasting your time debating nonsense. The only question is, “ where is home?”… jail? Exile? Or actual home. Kenya is going back to political backwardness.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 09, 2024, 03:16:40 PM
Gachagua 2024-27 is akin to Ruto 2009-13. Gachagua has to build his own URP or Gema party and use as bargaining chip in 2027/32. He is doing very well. Of course just like "Raila took us to Hague" most accusations against Ruto today are false. Inflation,  jobs,  illicit brew,  helicopter,... even a dead dog in Mt Kenya will be blamed on Ruto.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2024, 04:26:56 PM
I dont see the gate crusher in Muranga - where Ndidi Nyoro is being sold
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2024, 04:28:23 PM
Just because a strategy worked for Ruto doesnt mean it will work for RiggyG.

Ruto can easily finish RiggyG by appointing Kindiki or Ndidi to become DPORK after impeaching him

Mt kenya leaders will agree to this and the public too.

RiggyG will become two man guitar band singing Mugithi

Gachagua 2024-27 is akin to Ruto 2009-13. Gachagua has to build his own URP or Gema party and use as bargaining chip in 2027/32. He is doing very well. Of course just like "Raila took us to Hague" most accusations against Ruto today are false. Inflation,  jobs,  illicit brew,  helicopter,... even a dead dog in Mt Kenya will be blamed on Ruto.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 09, 2024, 07:08:20 PM
I dont see the gate crusher in Muranga - where Ndidi Nyoro is being sold

Tupo site,Ndindi ni takataka

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 09, 2024, 07:27:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/unUU_HoNeeo?si=YhxGegLjs-t-Bj-T
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 09, 2024, 10:52:08 PM
True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

Just because a strategy worked for Ruto doesnt mean it will work for RiggyG.

Ruto can easily finish RiggyG by appointing Kindiki or Ndidi to become DPORK after impeaching him

Mt kenya leaders will agree to this and the public too.

RiggyG will become two man guitar band singing Mugithi

Gachagua 2024-27 is akin to Ruto 2009-13. Gachagua has to build his own URP or Gema party and use as bargaining chip in 2027/32. He is doing very well. Of course just like "Raila took us to Hague" most accusations against Ruto today are false. Inflation,  jobs,  illicit brew,  helicopter,... even a dead dog in Mt Kenya will be blamed on Ruto.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2024, 11:06:40 PM
I dont understand why you overrate RiggyG
I am first person here to declare RiggyG would become DPORK.
The usual morons here were SO VIOLENT - led by NOWAYAHA AND NJURI - idea of RiggyG as DPORK was outrageous!
And I am telling you now RiggyG sell by date is OVER.
The usual morons now want to KILL ME for saying it.

He can barely get 10 MPS to support him.
Why would Ruto or RiggyG enemies keep him when he is very impeachable now.
RiggyG wants to force Ruto into 50-50 co-presidency.
He want Ruto to really ACTUALLY SHARE POWER AND MONEY.
That to Ruto is UNTENABLE. He created RiggyG.

Ruto can easily call Mt Kenya and tell them he made a mistake - Kindiki (Meru though small tribe) or Ndidi.

All indicators are Ruto is just marking time...soon it will be Kindiki or Ndidi.

RiggyG biggest mistake was to overrate himself. He is just Ruto political appointee.

True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 09, 2024, 11:44:15 PM
I see. Riggy came late into politics - he is at Ruto 2008 now - curving tribal base. That the basis to overrate himself: he must demonize Ruto to own Gema. Don't you see parallels with Ruto vs Raila 2008-13? Kindiki, Ndindi are Magerer or Sirma who will be crashed as traitors.

Uhuru is RETIRED - I think you are overrating him.

I dont understand why you overrate RiggyG
I am first person here to declare RiggyG would become DPORK.
The usual morons here were SO VIOLENT - led by NOWAYAHA AND NJURI - idea of RiggyG as DPORK was outrageous!
And I am telling you now RiggyG sell by date is OVER.
The usual morons now want to KILL ME for saying it.

He can barely get 10 MPS to support him.
Why would Ruto or RiggyG enemies keep him when he is very impeachable now.
RiggyG wants to force Ruto into 50-50 co-presidency.
He want Ruto to really ACTUALLY SHARE POWER AND MONEY.
That to Ruto is UNTENABLE. He created RiggyG.

Ruto can easily call Mt Kenya and tell them he made a mistake - Kindiki (Meru though small tribe) or Ndidi.

All indicators are Ruto is just marking time...soon it will be Kindiki or Ndidi.

RiggyG biggest mistake was to overrate himself. He is just Ruto political appointee.

True - depends on the MOVES the players make. Ruto succeeded by sheer political genius - by outplaying Raila who was the chief rival.

Today it not Ruto vs RiggyG. Riggy is aiming at 2032 and is not a threat to Ruto 2027 which will be just another 2017 sail through. GenZ have disrupted Rutonomics but there is really nothing to stop Ruto 10 years.

But 2032... RiggyG may not quite have Ruto stellar game but he's onto the money curving out Gema for himself. Of course it depends on subsequent events - but Mdvd, Kindiki, Ndindi - or Sakaja - none of these LIGHTWEIGHTS are any match for RiggyG.

Ruto as politician cares about winning his own term not burn capital to impeach or propping useless folks like Mdvd. They are pawns. So unless say Ndindi outsmart RiggyG... let's watch out for that.

Power concede nothing [sic].

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 04:07:21 AM
If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 10, 2024, 09:45:04 AM
If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 10:10:25 AM
If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Infact Ruto sycophants like Waiguru went into hiding while Ruto Ndindi sycophants were very measured in their words to avoid being jeered.Moving foward,UDA ni chama cha ufisadi ukabila udikteta ukora ushetani utapeli
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 10, 2024, 10:17:32 AM
If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Yes. Gema are not stupid and will line up behind RiggyG the more Ruto undermines him with impeachment or budget cuts. Basically foxy Riggy praises Ruto at such rallies - while Kahiga and Wamuchombas and Kimani Ngunjiris viciously attack GoK.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 10:35:25 AM
If Ruto was not believing NIS reports,He has seen it for himself over the last two days in From Embu,Muranga and Kiambu Nyeri boarders.

What happened there? Yes the Gema horse has bolted.

Two issues.

1) Ruto has been trying to find a way to dump Gachagua and replace him with Ndindi.

2) Majority of GEMA Mps are Ruto sycophants and they've been undermining Gachagua.They know if Gachagua goes ahead to establish a GEMA Party they will not be re-elected so they are one of the groups in parliament who want Gachagua impeached.

NOW Ruto went to Mt Kenya to test the waters whether Gachagua is popular and how his impeachment would be received across GEMA.He started in Embu Tharaka to test the Embus Tharaka (difficult GEMA dialect),He then headed to Kiriani Muranga Nyeri border,Then Muranga which is the heart of GEMA and then Gatanga kiambu border.The crowd which had been mobilized by Ruto through the provincial and county administration plus Pro Ruto GEMA Mps (check video of the crowd demanding payment from MPs) was cheering Gachagua in Rutos presence.They basically told Ruto off indirectly by CHEERING Gachagua.The videos are public.

Yes. Gema are not stupid and will line up behind RiggyG the more Ruto undermines him with impeachment or budget cuts. Basically foxy Riggy praises Ruto at such rallies - while Kahiga and Wamuchombas and Kimani Ngunjiris viciously attack GoK.

Gachagua doesn't praise Ruto in those rallies,let me break down what he says indirectly .He calls Ruto political opponents using the following language.

Andu aitu--Watu wetu.
Muurii oo kuo-Bado mako.
No muiiyuumitie-Bado mnajikaza.
Onanie ndirii okuo na ndo nidii yuumitie-hata mimi niko na jikaza.
No ngaii no muiiega-lakini mungu ni mwema.
Mutongoria uyu ni ithuii twa thurire--Huyu jamaa ni sisi tulichagua...He doesn't continue from there,kikuyu don't say somethings when they disagree with someone.they leave out the words.

This is a man who knows his people are suffering and he is telling them indirectly that he is also suffering but choosing to persevere.So who is the cause of his suffering?He then tells them,We are the ones who elected Ruto ,but without our votes he wouldn't be president but he has decided to bring Raila to destroy me politically together with GEMA Mps

He then goes ahead to say that he agrees with Ruto decision of joining hands with all leaders like Raila but INDIRECTLY asks,Why not Uhuru?How can we persecute Uhuru our son?He says he must join hands with Uhuru and calls Ndindi and his sycophants KUNDA NGUTUME-SELL OUT TUKUNIA because they are praising Ruto who has brought Raila to finish him politically..
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 10, 2024, 10:46:31 AM
👀

Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 11:00:36 AM
👀

Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.

Ruto can't impeach Gachagua,NOT POSSIBLE.

Can you try to imagine these events->

Ruto impeaches Gachagua he looses 90% GEMA vote,

He is left with Raila in government.

Suppose Raila decides to run for the presidency in 2027?

If Raila runs in 2027,We will have Kalonzo Gachagua ticket (GEMA KAMBA 35%),Raila ticket (Luo Luhya coast 35%) and Ruto ticket (Kalenjin/RV 25%)

In such a case Ruto becomes Number 3 in 2027 elections and the run off is between Kalonzo and Raila.

The problem with such a scenario,It would be technically difficult to rig such an election because if Raila is the ballot Ruto can't rig in Western or Nyanza,He can't rig in Mt Kenya,He can't rig in Ukambani.Rigging in cosmopolitan counties would be even impossible.Infact the people who would rig that election would be Gachagua Kalonzo and Raila in their strongholds.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 11:37:16 AM
Tortured argument.
You say Ruto has lost GEMA
If he impeached Gachagua he loses even more?

If I was Ruto - I will impeach Gachagua -
1st because I CAN-
what use of having 300MPs if you cannot use it to solve political problems
Ruto got 210Mps to vote finance bill - he has added 85Mps from ODM.
That 200MPs.
Infact Gachagua can maybe get 20Mps from Mt Kenya and 25Mps from Ukambani if he really tries.

Once Gachagua is gone - Ruto should appoint Ndidi Nyoro - if he still has way to make up for Kikuyu vote
Or Kindiki - if he wants to focus mostly on Mt Kenya East - and try to flog him to Kikuyus
Already Mt Kenya Mps and Govenrors do not like Gachagua - it easy to explain why Kindiki

The longer Gachagua stays the Longer he extends the CIVIL WAR in UDA and stop Ruto from merging with ODM/FORD-K/ANC
Which what Ruto needs in 2027.

Ruto would be a fool to go 2027 with 50% coalition - even if MT Kenya backed him 90%.
It just not good enough.

He won by Whisker last election.

Gachagua and some Mt Kenya in their selfishness wanted to OWN RUTO.

Ruto has to share power because again 50.01% he won is just NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Is Gachagua in opposition able to sustain fight against Ruto in Mt Kenya.
Very much doubt it.
If as DPORK he is struggling with 2 MPs - once he has been fired - he will just be a bitter soul with Kalonzo.
He wont be able to get Mps or MCas or Senators.

He wont have the money and presence to hold rallies in Mt Kenya

Even now he is tagging along Ruto. He cannot organize his own rallies.

👀

Githunguri is Ruto going to impeach RiggyG? Soon Ndindi and Ichung'wa will be persona non grata in Mt Kenya.

Ruto can't impeach Gachagua,NOT POSSIBLE.

Can you try to imagine these events->

Ruto impeaches Gachagua he looses 90% GEMA vote,

He is left with Raila in government.

Suppose Raila decides to run for the presidency in 2027?

If Raila runs in 2027,We will have Kalonzo Gachagua ticket (GEMA KAMBA 35%),Raila ticket (Luo Luhya coast 35%) and Ruto ticket (Kalenjin/RV 25%)

In such a case Ruto becomes Number 3 in 2027 elections and the run off is between Kalonzo and Raila.

The problem with such a scenario,It would be technically difficult to rig such an election because if Raila is the ballot Ruto can't rig in Western or Nyanza,He can't rig in Mt Kenya,He can't rig in Ukambani.Rigging in cosmopolitan counties would be even impossible.Infact the people who would rig that election would be Gachagua Kalonzo and Raila in their strongholds.

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 11:46:32 AM

Kirinyaga.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 10, 2024, 12:08:16 PM
Pundit has naive impeachment math- without factoring blowback. Why didn't Uhuru impeach Ruto?

Riggy would run to court - all the way to SCORK - drag civil war till 2027. Meantime that real ammo to line up Gema. Then Raila is unreliable snake who still wants to be PORK. Even Mdvd will stab Ruto in the back if the opportunity arises.

Impeachment is no joke. Not just UDA but KK-ODM deal itself could implode.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 01:34:04 PM
Ruto was not vulnerable.
Ruto has faced impeachment as minister and prevailed.
Ruto always had many MPS on retainer because he was using BILLIONS.
He had 133 mps and 17 senators to save him.

Gachagua is one man guitar.

There is no judiciary that can stop clear cut law like parliament impeaching deputy president.

Once the motion is fired - Rigathi know if he is successuflly impeached - he is TKOed from politics - will resign.
If he stays and fight impeachment - and it goes through - he will never become Ass Chief in kenya - failed chapter six.

Ruto can choose to walk on MT kenya eggs - or fix RiggyG problem early and now.

As it get to 2027 - it become harder - so time to do it is btw now and FEB 25th when we have Raila desperate for AU.

Well Ruto should listen to people who care about him like US - not you guys who want him to commit errors and lose 2027.

Pundit has naive impeachment math- without factoring blowback. Why didn't Uhuru impeach Ruto?

Riggy would run to court - all the way to SCORK - drag civil war till 2027. Meantime that real ammo to line up Gema. Then Raila is unreliable snake who still wants to be PORK. Even Mdvd will stab Ruto in the back if the opportunity arises.

Impeachment is no joke. Not just UDA but KK-ODM deal itself could implode.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 10, 2024, 05:22:53 PM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 10, 2024, 10:37:52 PM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 11, 2024, 06:49:07 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 11, 2024, 07:10:10 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

Gachagua is a BULLDOG.

If you watch the whole video from 3:30-4:30,He says the following:
1) Hii serikali ni sisi tulichagua,hatuwezi wacha serikali yetu-He is simply daring Ruto to impeach him otherwise they will go home together.He is also warning any GEMA MP who will dare support that motion will receive the wrath of the citizens.
2) He then goes ahead to say,That IMPEACHMENT NONSENSE should remain on whatsapp groups.Imagine saying that to a president.

The next political move is that Gachagua will join Ruto developmental tour in Kisii and Western this week,The Mps in those regions like Osoro and Khalwale will be there to attack him,Their attacks and heckling crowds videos will be spread like bushfire by Gachagua online Goons and discussed in radio stations and blogs which will further consolidate his support.

Ruto body language says it all.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Nefertiti on August 11, 2024, 08:08:18 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

Gachagua is a BULLDOG.

If you watch the whole video from 3:30-4:30,He says the following:
1) Hii serikali ni sisi tulichagua,hatuwezi wacha serikali yetu-He is simply daring Ruto to impeach him otherwise they will go home together.He is also warning any GEMA MP who will dare support that motion will receive the wrath of the citizens.
2) He then goes ahead to say,That IMPEACHMENT NONSENSE should remain on whatsapp groups.Imagine saying that to a president.

The next political move is that Gachagua will join Ruto developmental tour in Kisii and Western this week,The Mps in those regions like Osoro and Khalwale will be there to attack him,Their attacks and heckling crowds videos will be spread like bushfire by Gachagua online Goons and discussed in radio stations and blogs which will further consolidate his support.

Ruto body language says it all.

Can't Ruto kick Gachagua off his caravan? Why tag him along?
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 11, 2024, 08:54:02 AM
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/realtime/2024-08-10-governor-anne-waiguru-backs-rutos-broad-based-government/

Same rally Gachagua Vs Waiguru ->The reception says it all and the president body language to Gachagua popularity shows a lot of discomfort.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.

Gachagua is a BULLDOG.

If you watch the whole video from 3:30-4:30,He says the following:
1) Hii serikali ni sisi tulichagua,hatuwezi wacha serikali yetu-He is simply daring Ruto to impeach him otherwise they will go home together.He is also warning any GEMA MP who will dare support that motion will receive the wrath of the citizens.
2) He then goes ahead to say,That IMPEACHMENT NONSENSE should remain on whatsapp groups.Imagine saying that to a president.

The next political move is that Gachagua will join Ruto developmental tour in Kisii and Western this week,The Mps in those regions like Osoro and Khalwale will be there to attack him,Their attacks and heckling crowds videos will be spread like bushfire by Gachagua online Goons and discussed in radio stations and blogs which will further consolidate his support.

Ruto body language says it all.

Can't Ruto kick Gachagua off his caravan? Why tag him along?

How?It's hilarious.

Are you aware before the June 25th Maandamano Gachagua avoided all state functions and started claiming that people close to the president were PERSECUTING and bullying him and he went into hiding in Mathira?He later went ahead to carry his suitcase to the airport alone without state security because he was even denied GOK chopper?That is just dirty politics.The matter was headlines in the Newspapers Kameme and Inooro Fm and social media and then he sent Governor Kahiga and wamuchomba to fight Finance bill while he supported Limuru 3 and the boom June 25th referendum.

NOW just imagine the deputy president calling a press conference claiming that the president has banned him from state functions and has ganged up with Raila to impeach him and the matter is the topic of discussion in the Tv radio Tiktok and blogs?That's another crisis.

Of course Ruto doesn't want Gachagua in these events which were meant to popularize kamotho Ndindi kunda ngutume but Gachagua just needs to know where the president is going and then he appears,How do you chase him away?You can't even deny him a chance to talk otherwise the crowds will turn against the president.

You can't chase away your biological first born son with Nyakinyua in a family gathering just because you have a young Nyakiambii.The clan can even curse or disown you .

Tukutane Kisii where Osoro,Arati and Wandayi will be lecturing Gachagua about Ukabila,The events will be broadcasted live and Gachagua supporters will be very angry and may decide to COMPLETELY dump UDA party.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 11, 2024, 09:08:29 AM
Losing Gachagua is not losing GEMA.
Ruto can still pull out crowds in GEMA.
Ruto has options - including Waiguru, Kindiki, Ichungwa and Ndidi to replace Gachagua
Explain to Mt Kenya - why going to opposition for decades is simply stupid.
GEMA don't listen to Githunguri type nonsense.
If they did - they'd have voted for Raila and Uhuru.
They will listen to voice of reasons - that say - Ruto 2027 is unbeatable - Mt Kenya should reduce arrogance and wait for 2032.
Otherwise like in Mois time it could be a long winter.

You move from Ruto to say Kalonzo or Raila - and now next chance of getting power is 2037 if your camp win - or 2042 if Ruto camp win. UFALA.

Pundit is struggling to accept the loss of Gema. Evidently Ruto has already accepted this and is now only managing the transition. Touring around with the rebellious deputy is a surrender to the new reality.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: RV Pundit on August 11, 2024, 10:34:16 AM
RiggyG been gate-crashing the presidential tours
https://x.com/wahomethuku/status/1822509598558892228
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: gout on August 11, 2024, 01:02:07 PM
The fight is very good - we may not have had some corruption in a few months as the shifting happens. Gachagua has been eating good as globalist wannabe was flying thus the ruckus—just a case of going back to history and selecting the mistakes to repeat on a grander scale. 


 
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 11, 2024, 03:21:08 PM
Ruto GEMA union is over.

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 11, 2024, 03:31:59 PM
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/why-ruto-stopped-gachagua-impeachment-bid-4721464#story

No impeachment.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: gout on August 11, 2024, 03:32:17 PM
The rats are hungry. Many will go broke. They will fight now that chances for crumbs have vamoosed.

Ruto GEMA union is over.

Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: gout on August 11, 2024, 03:37:44 PM
Nahhh. This confirms there is no working relationship. DO is being disarmed before being taken out by surprise. Bunge is a few hours job then he is left gasping for air in the senate process.

He better resigns a minute earlier once the bell tolls.

https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/why-ruto-stopped-gachagua-impeachment-bid-4721464#story

No impeachment.
Title: Re: Gachagua humbles Ruto in Embu
Post by: Githunguri on August 11, 2024, 04:00:42 PM

Uhuru & Gachagua seems to be having very deep conversations.