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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on June 27, 2024, 02:03:55 AM

Title: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 27, 2024, 02:03:55 AM
I have no proper words to explain this. I have stayed up 30 hours analyzing what has just happened and it is a revolution. In the days to come things will become clear.

It countrywide almost like pev but with citizens united to break the back of the political elites and institutions keeping them in power. I hope the military stays in the barracks and uses the long stick and carrot to keep the boat a float.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nefertiti on June 27, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
 :o :o

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GDP 100B usd. Per capita 2k usd.. comes to about 20k kes per head monthly - before you factor inequality.

Fix this - that's all the revolution you need.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 28, 2024, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: Nefertiti on June 27, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
:o :o

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GDP 100B usd. Per capita 2k usd.. comes to about 20k kes per head monthly - before you factor inequality.

Fix this - that's all the revolution you need.

That is the biggest factor..poverty, despair and the level of rage it can produce. I just don't understand how ruto and his economic advisors allowed to be captured by USA and not even demand unconditional debt relief as a requirement..

Ruto has mismanaged the transitional period by focusing superficial issues instead of fundamental issues.
 A default would have been better than going imf austerity measures.

Ruto has lost control of state. He got exit or start a transition to exit. This will be another wasted decade
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Kirgit on June 28, 2024, 06:19:12 AM
Ruto has made a strategic miscalculation. While everyone shifts to BRIC, he engages reverse gear and takes us back to stoneage.

This is not 70s when dollar just became numero uno currency. Right now, the dollar hegemony is on deathbed while Ruto gamble Kenyan future on a failing system.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 28, 2024, 06:40:47 AM
Quote from: RV Kirgit on June 28, 2024, 06:19:12 AM
Ruto has made a strategic miscalculation. While everyone shifts to BRIC, he engages reverse gear and takes us back to stoneage.

This is not 70s when dollar just became numero uno currency. Right now, the dollar hegemony is on deathbed while Ruto gamble Kenyan future on a failing system.
The US dollar and the mighty USA are not failing anytime soon. You are regurgitating what folks were saying in the 80s and 90s. According to the crazies, the US dollar and system were dying decades ago. 2024 is more vital than before and poised to be the currency of Choice 40 years from now. Global dominance for decades and poised to do the same for at least 40 years. S&P 500 to hit 15000 by 2030 based on all Wall Street top dogs
Don't read and rely on misinformation from Russia and China. Businesses in those places trust the US dollar more than anything!
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Why has the dollar lost some ground as a reserve currency in recent decades?

Aliaga-Díaz: One primary reason is the significant globalization seen over the last few decades and the associated economic growth in many economies. Overall, this has yielded a positive outcome for the global financial system. As the world economy grows over time, the volume of both global financial flows and international trade expands at a fast pace, even faster than the growth of the U.S. economy. As a result, the global demand for reserve currencies starts to surpass the capacity of the U.S.—the sole issuer of the U.S. dollar—to satisfy it. Since the launch of the euro in the 1990s, we saw some international operations shifting toward it and—to a much lesser degree—other major developed-market currencies such as the Japanese yen and the British pound. More recently, there has been a small but growing volume of global transactions quoted in Chinese yuan.

Hirt: The potential for the dollar to lose importance as a reserve currency has been a recurring topic in recent history. It was heavily discussed in the late 1990s, when the euro was introduced to world financial markets, and then again in the late aughts, amid the global financial crisis and China’s subsequent rise in the global power structure. We haven’t seen either of these stories play out to the degree that most observers thought they might.

What would it take to supplant the dollar as the dominant global currency?

Hirt: In short, it would require significant global adoption of another currency to affect the dollar’s dominance. Currency usage entails holdings in reserves but also usage as a means of global trade exchange. Despite some recent announcements of countries bypassing use of the dollar in trade contracts, the U.S. dollar remains dominant as the currency of choice for international transactions
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 28, 2024, 07:51:13 AM
The rawness of the anger capture on this twitter space recording
As someone who helps most of these dispossessed women I got tell you we are in a lot of social trouble. The society is under immense economic pressure. People call Africans lazy. Try a day to be in shoes of the dispossessed of Kenya. Toil day and night and still not make enough to feed yourself
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2024, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: KenyanPlato on June 28, 2024, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: Nefertiti on June 27, 2024, 10:30:04 AM
:o :o

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GDP 100B usd. Per capita 2k usd.. comes to about 20k kes per head monthly - before you factor inequality.

Fix this - that's all the revolution you need.

That is the biggest factor..poverty, despair and the level of rage it can produce. I just don't understand how ruto and his economic advisors allowed to be captured by USA and not even demand unconditional debt relief as a requirement..

Ruto has mismanaged the transitional period by focusing superficial issues instead of fundamental issues.
 A default would have been better than going imf austerity measures.

Ruto has lost control of state. He got exit or start a transition to exit. This will be another wasted decade

Where is the revolution? - all Ruto has done is attempt to wean the economy off debt. Growth requires discipline and strategy not maandamano. The protesters are in fact working against themselves. I know they were promised mana straight from heaven during campaigns - that's on them hakuna mtu amebebewa akili.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2024, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: RV Kirgit on June 28, 2024, 06:19:12 AM
Ruto has made a strategic miscalculation. While everyone shifts to BRIC, he engages reverse gear and takes us back to stoneage.

This is not 70s when dollar just became numero uno currency. Right now, the dollar hegemony is on deathbed while Ruto gamble Kenyan future on a failing system.

Ruto's plan is simple: wean off debt, mint major investment. The contrarian pivot to the West is a suave move: Egypt, Ethiopia just joined BRICS, everyone else in EA is at war or unstable - except Swahili TZ and tiny Rwanda. There is zero competition for FDI against Kenya regionally.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nefertiti on June 28, 2024, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 28, 2024, 06:40:47 AM
Quote from: RV Kirgit on June 28, 2024, 06:19:12 AM
Ruto has made a strategic miscalculation. While everyone shifts to BRIC, he engages reverse gear and takes us back to stoneage.

This is not 70s when dollar just became numero uno currency. Right now, the dollar hegemony is on deathbed while Ruto gamble Kenyan future on a failing system.
The US dollar and the mighty USA are not failing anytime soon. You are regurgitating what folks were saying in the 80s and 90s. According to the crazies, the US dollar and system were dying decades ago. 2024 is more vital than before and poised to be the currency of Choice 40 years from now. Global dominance for decades and poised to do the same for at least 40 years. S&P 500 to hit 15000 by 2030 based on all Wall Street top dogs
Don't read and rely on misinformation from Russia and China. Businesses in those places trust the US dollar more than anything!

China has overtaken the US economically and is ramping up military and diplomacy. Look at how easily they have thwarted sanctions on Russia. How can an economy grow with 1000 sanctions from the entire West? See the long queue of BRICS applicants... mpaka Turkey. Such are more useful indicators than dollar-nominal GDPs.

China is more adaptive than the US. They have aggressive green card hawkers now targeting top talent globally and other measures to address demographics. I mean the CCP seems to do pragmatic reforms.

But the US? With unsustainable public debt for welfare and military - the dollar hegemony is all we have really. But this will collapse too due to the implausibility of reforms. Top up with irrational Orwellian policy - backing Zionists or stealing Russia's dollars... such frantic moves are grievious reputational self-harm.

But the domestic elephant is way bigger than the external scarecrows. Reform or perish.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 11:57:43 AM
Dont get carried way.
We just had our black matters movement kind of online outburst of anger.

Nothing substantive will come out of something rudderless and leaderless like this.

Just another london riots or black live matters - wave of destruction - security restore order - until the next wave.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: gout on June 28, 2024, 01:11:36 PM
All creditors have gotten the memo that we cannot afford to pay the crazy interest payments for stolen debts. So no more loans due to even higher interest rates. The govt officials have to cut the wastage and corruption.

The callous IMF/WB undertakers can no longer continue being deaf to the wastages and corruption while the poor desperate mwafrika hasoras have reached the edge. The gravy train of the debt treadmill has hit a serious bump.  Ati ignore the protests.

Default, stagflation and political treachery will mean more public anger. The personalized hostility and destruction of MPs properties will grow.

Quote from: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 11:57:43 AM
Dont get carried way.
We just had our black matters movement kind of online outburst of anger.

Nothing substantive will come out of something rudderless and leaderless like this.

Just another london riots or black live matters - wave of destruction - security restore order - until the next wave.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 28, 2024, 02:12:13 PM

Still in Denial , things are thick . Black matters never went after Mps . It was anger against the police force and matter fact it boosted Bidens chances as the Blacks and Latinos rallied for Biden.

Quote from: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 11:57:43 AM
Dont get carried way.
We just had our black matters movement kind of online outburst of anger.

Nothing substantive will come out of something rudderless and leaderless like this.

Just another london riots or black live matters - wave of destruction - security restore order - until the next wave.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 28, 2024, 02:13:48 PM
Another Kale atleast understands whats going on…….


Quote from: gout on June 28, 2024, 01:11:36 PM
All creditors have gotten the memo that we cannot afford to pay the crazy interest payments for stolen debts. So no more loans due to even higher interest rates. The govt officials have to cut the wastage and corruption.

The callous IMF/WB undertakers can no longer continue being deaf to the wastages and corruption while the poor desperate mwafrika hasoras have reached the edge. The gravy train of the debt treadmill has hit a serious bump.  Ati ignore the protests.

Default, stagflation and political treachery will mean more public anger. The personalized hostility and destruction of MPs properties will grow.

Quote from: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 11:57:43 AM
Dont get carried way.
We just had our black matters movement kind of online outburst of anger.

Nothing substantive will come out of something rudderless and leaderless like this.

Just another london riots or black live matters - wave of destruction - security restore order - until the next wave.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 02:20:00 PM
We were out of danger already. There is no default. These things are common in any democracy.
Quote from: gout on June 28, 2024, 01:11:36 PM
All creditors have gotten the memo that we cannot afford to pay the crazy interest payments for stolen debts. So no more loans due to even higher interest rates. The govt officials have to cut the wastage and corruption.

The callous IMF/WB undertakers can no longer continue being deaf to the wastages and corruption while the poor desperate mwafrika hasoras have reached the edge. The gravy train of the debt treadmill has hit a serious bump.  Ati ignore the protests.

Default, stagflation and political treachery will mean more public anger. The personalized hostility and destruction of MPs properties will grow.

Quote from: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 11:57:43 AM
Dont get carried way.
We just had our black matters movement kind of online outburst of anger.

Nothing substantive will come out of something rudderless and leaderless like this.

Just another london riots or black live matters - wave of destruction - security restore order - until the next wave.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Pundit on June 28, 2024, 02:21:40 PM
Which BLM is that - because it keeps erupting - randomly when police kills a black person - and leave a wave of destruction.

KOL has given us that one - and it ended - I am sure many will come

I know you're disappointed because you thought Ruto will be outrun by silly kids out of statehouse.

 
Quote from: Nowayhaha on June 28, 2024, 02:12:13 PM
Still in Denial , things are thick . Black matters never went after Mps . It was anger against the police force and matter fact it boosted Bidens chances as the Blacks and Latinos rallied for Biden.

Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 10, 2024, 11:49:30 AM
Gnu loading as subdued ruto looks for a life raft
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 11, 2024, 03:50:32 PM
Revolution viral load has done the first job. Next is dissolution of parliament
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 12, 2024, 01:34:07 PM
Gen z are now proposing we go back and bomas draft on devolution. 8 states, all mps become mcas and senators mps
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 12, 2024, 01:42:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/ebnCm9F8T1g?si=U9BqEY0scultists.

Citizens assembly
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 17, 2024, 10:55:36 AM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on July 21, 2024, 07:48:03 PM
Ruto tries to address a crowd. The crowd breaks into ruto mustgo mwizi chant
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 18, 2024, 12:53:12 PM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 18, 2024, 12:55:41 PM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 20, 2024, 12:46:14 PM
One issue that is coming up everytime media goes to the grassroots to get opinion of older generation that is over 40 tears is the killing of protestors. From kisumu to kisauni this is the biggest problem voters seem to have with ruto administration. Most kenyans are bidding their time. When elections will come around ruto and his political acolytes will see dust. I see a situation where the elections results will he known before even midday of voting. Ruto can't regain the trust of kenyans. Killing of 60 protestors and the continued abductions is a crime moat kenyans are not willing to forgive. I hear women asking "isn't this the same kindiki that killed our kids?" You can't counter such a feeling of injustice by playing politics. It is either ruto gets serious forms a truth and justice commission asap to resolve this issue or he may suffer the Samuel doe fate.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: gout on October 23, 2024, 10:33:47 AM
IMF, CIA is coming hard on the generation that said Zii. University Fwaking Model is in progress to cripple their higher education chances.

The coming review will be more insidious, indicating that the protests were about 'miscommunication' which implies there will be serious censorship and probably a crackdown on social media. It seems another June showdown is in motion.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/business/article/2001505110/kenyas-gen-z-protests-now-spark-global-rethink-on-imf-conditions
The paper shows they will continue on old models. Higher electricity prices, raising the retirement age
https://www.imf.org/-/media/Files/Publications/WEO/2024/October/English/ch03.ashx
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 08, 2024, 08:02:41 AM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 08, 2024, 08:24:53 AM
No close to Ruto's reception in Mombasa
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 08, 2024, 12:44:04 PM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 08, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
Rvshitter ask your brother to just die in peace and stop destroying kenya. How did the mathafaka get Aids. He looks terrible. He is his dad. His dad was an addict and ruto is a sex,addict and a rapist. Fuck your brother. I hope he dies soon. Fuck you too. Kalenjins are pathetic morons. Look at Pundit. He is sucking ruto cock like it is second coming of christ. Fuck you low intelligence tribe.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 08, 2024, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: KenyanPlato on December 08, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
Rvshitter ask your brother to just die in peace and stop destroying kenya. How did the mathafaka get Aids. He looks terrible. He is his dad. His dad was an addict and ruto is a sex,addict and a rapist. Fuck your brother. I hope he dies soon. Fuck you too. Kalenjins are pathetic morons. Look at Pundit. He is sucking ruto cock like it is second coming of christ. Fuck you low intelligence tribe.
You are the one rotting slowly, and who will die sooner. Kenyan governors and civil servants are the ones hurting Kenya, not the president. In three years, foreign debt will be eliminated, but the public expects immediate outcomes. Kenya requires a tough president who will do the heavy, painful things. He will be celebrated down the road.  The majority of poor people like you are bitter because they cannot make ends meet with their meager jobs. Quit your slave job and start building wealth. It will make you see the world in a positive light.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Pundit on December 09, 2024, 11:15:40 AM
Idi Amin - wa Kimende - what is going on. Why this mbitterness.
Quote from: KenyanPlato on December 08, 2024, 12:48:02 PM
Rvshitter ask your brother to just die in peace and stop destroying kenya. How did the mathafaka get Aids. He looks terrible. He is his dad. His dad was an addict and ruto is a sex,addict and a rapist. Fuck your brother. I hope he dies soon. Fuck you too. Kalenjins are pathetic morons. Look at Pundit. He is sucking ruto cock like it is second coming of christ. Fuck you low intelligence tribe.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 10, 2024, 04:15:48 AM
Wewe matako ya chura..we will make sure those women of yours go back to mombasa to become karubandikas like they did during mertezeng era.
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 10, 2024, 11:34:44 PM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: gout on December 11, 2024, 12:44:20 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Police attempt to round up several activists and protestors during the &#39;EndFemicideKe&#39; march in Nairobi. <a href="https://t.co/I7SsUuvssJ">pic.twitter.com/I7SsUuvssJ</a></p>&mdash; Cyprian, Is Nyakundi (@C_NyaKundiH) <a href="?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 11, 2024, 02:42:04 PM
In the meantime, the evil revolution driven by corrupt cartels was defeated, and the president is doing the real work of uplifting ordinary Kenyans through groundbreaking legislation and  laws spearheaded by Kimani Ichungwa, Moses Wetangula, Aaron Cheruiyot, and Moses Wetangula. Church, the custodian of about 3 million votes, is also on board to see Kenya succeed, NOT perish from corrupt cartels fighting back in the name of 'Ruto must go.' To rid Kenya of corruption, it takes guts , determination, and meticulous calculation. I'd say Ruto has reduced corruption in government by about 50% since he came in. More work needs to be done, but we are heading in the right direction.
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 11, 2024, 03:11:36 PM
Your brother should worry about how 50 million perceive him. Even a person with an IQ of 1 knows he the worst that have ever happened to kenya. Your deadbeat dad gave birth to the biggest pyscho in East Africa. If he was a kikuyu we would put him in a beehive and roll him over a cliff, if he survived that fall men with Yorks would strangle him to death. Your family ni pepo mbaya.
Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 14, 2024, 09:10:46 AM
Ruto mwizi is the chorus of this festive season
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 12, 2025, 07:54:07 PM
Ng'anga doesn't like this regime. It seems the ground is still very revolutionary. Anyway as long as the economy is depressed Ruto will be the punching bag. Ruto aides are stupid. Why not just retreat and talk up development or future plans

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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 13, 2025, 05:29:43 PM
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 16, 2025, 12:19:43 AM
I told you this was a revolution .ruto hasn't been able to consolidate power again. The politicians are now going for the jugular
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Title: Re: We have just witnessed a Revolution
Post by: gout on March 06, 2025, 12:54:08 PM
Evil provocations. Sunday will be interesting to watch as Gen Zii plan to ask Mwai questions in the people's court.

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Jesus Winner Ministry founder Edward Mwai has dumped a phone number he has had for more than 15 years after endless calls, mostly from angry youth demanding answers on a Sh20 million donation pledge by President William Ruto, jammed the handset.
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