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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: gout on January 19, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
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what an image ..as much as we will try to shift blame to Mwangi this will trend in the hearts of Kenyans forever and I think globally
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Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
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This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos
Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
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This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos
Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
The comparison does not match. Comparing kids in Paletine to Langata?
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Am am saying is deliberately placing kids in a probable violent situation is blackmail.
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You honestly believe kids can bring down that wall?
The comparison does not match. Comparing kids in Paletine to Langata?
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They are not only kids but also students of the school whose land has been grabbed,they had to fight for their rights and the public had to give them a helping hand physically and through social media,
Without Prejudice.
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Overzealous cops who felt the need to protect WSR grabbed hotel parking lot couldn't stop at nothing.Not even under 10 kids.
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That is the nature of work..of a cop. Be it Kenya cops or Isrealis or me or you. You cannot blow away a hse to kill mosquito just because the mosquito is hidding in the house.
This is lack of imagination from cops. At worse criminal unreasonable use of force.
Am am saying is deliberately placing kids in a probable violent situation is blackmail.
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So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.
Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
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How does Kirubi smart or Ruto dumb corrupt ways represent Rv or GEMA. Go slow on tribalism when you check into our sitting room and feel free to resume the usual mode once you're inside the toilet.com.
Yes the optics are not good for Ruto.
So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.
Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
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So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.
Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
Welcome aboard, Kadudu. I see you couldn't resist our chill-out ways over here. On behalf of Brynn (where is she?) grab yourself a drink, sit, relax.
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You know that he got it having quoted the highest price? And you also know that by that the idea of cheap electricity went through ther window and defeated the entire purpose of the plant?
So your guy Ruto still has big appetite for mashamba? Atleast I thought after the Muteshi saga he had learnt his lesson but alas.
Ruto should go for other invisible deals like the coal fired ppower plant in Lamu which Chris Kirubi bagged. These are more lucrative but require more imagination which seems to be lacking in RV.
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This is what Palestine has been doing. That is social blackmail. Kids are not supposed to be hurt so you use them in violent demos
Surely, how do you teargas kids?
Are these people trained in anything except violence?
You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
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What was so urgent that the government could not wait for those kids to go back to class or even go back home in the evening before taking other safer measures to secure the premises. The duo has lost it completely, to allow children to be teargassed just because they want to play.... and that I had to hear this from my local news network is even more amazing. Who does things like this? I don't care if the children were being used as pawn, they are freakin children what the f*ck. This could have been my child. Parents are at work assuming their kids are safe in school....am sure if most new that this was going to happen they would have kept their kids home. vooke drop the idiotic reasoning for one second and try looking at this from a parents perspective. Nothing you can ever explain here justifies this kind of action.
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Omosh, these facts were all published in the local papers but we were told we were just jealous of the "hard working" Chris Kirubi. Atleast Kirubi shows some manners while stealing from public coffers and does not go for such obvious items like mashambas. RV thieves still have a long way to go.
You know that he got it having quoted the highest price? And you also know that by that the idea of cheap electricity went through the window and defeated the entire purpose of the plant?
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Asande ka-Bella. I am flexible and do not mind discovering new territories.
Welcome aboard, Kadudu. I see you couldn't resist our chill-out ways over here. On behalf of Brynn (where is she?) grab yourself a drink, sit, relax.
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mya88,
Attacking kids is barbarism
Mobilizing them to destroy private property is worse.
just for a second imagine if some or even one kid was hit by a car or was crushed by the falling wall. All this in absence of them cops. Who would we be blaming? The grabber or the activists who engaged the kids, or the teachers?
I don't condone the grabbing, in fact I pray that the thugs will have no kids to share their loot with, may it be scattered among their enemies
You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
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mya88,
Attacking kids is barbarism
Mobilizing them to destroy private property is worse.
just for a second imagine if some or even one kid was hit by a car or was crushed by the falling wall. All this in absence of them cops. Who would we be blaming? The grabber or the activists who engaged the kids, or the teachers?
I don't condone the grabbing, in fact I pray that the thugs will have no kids to share their loot with, may it be scattered among their enemies
You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
The right to protest, demonstrate, complain is enshrined in the Kenyan constitution.
There are those who believe these kids, among others, have the right to demonstrate peacefully without expecting a violent reaction from any quarters.
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Yeah right, including the right to destroy private property
The right to protest, demonstrate, complain is enshrined in the Kenyan constitution.
There are those who believe these kids, among others, have the right to demonstrate peacefully without expecting a violent reaction from any quarters.
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vooke how is it private property when it was stolen in the first place?
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school kids have always demonstrated even before mwangi was born over all manner of things ...headteachers removal, teachers sexual exploits, land grabs, results.....
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what an image ..as much as we will try to shift blame to Mwangi this will trend in the hearts of Kenyans forever and I think globally
Ah, boiyo, now I have to spend the whole morning explaining that where the kids were teargassed is not in Kenya, it is in Langata (Rayila's constituency), where Kenyan police had gone to restore piss after some young terrorists went to disturb a developer's contractor who had been hired by a powerful hotelier. Sirikaal, do you know how hard you make my life? I walk around with my head bowed because quite a few people know I am a Kenyan! People should refine their manners to suit their status...and ...stop grabbing land and grab intangibles. If you must steal, please try to be tactful! If you grabber feel insulted, go hang!
Sketie
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mya88,
Attacking kids is barbarism
Mobilizing them to destroy private property is worse.
just for a second imagine if some or even one kid was hit by a car or was crushed by the falling wall. All this in absence of them cops. Who would we be blaming? The grabber or the activists who engaged the kids, or the teachers?
I don't condone the grabbing, in fact I pray that the thugs will have no kids to share their loot with, may it be scattered among their enemies
You really are one hell of a pastor. Is Kenya now Palestine, where children are fair game? Any country that engages in such barbaric acts against children in broad daylight in this time and age, when there isn't any war going on, has no place in modern society. There was nothing violent except for kids being kids until the cops started teargassing them. and to think there is a busy traffic right by the side where kids could run by the road and be mowed down......simply unbelievable.
Vooke, do you have clear proof that this was private property or are you just one of the spinners for hire here masquerading as an independent thinker. If it was private property why is the minister of lands saying it belonged to the school? The question you should be asking yourself is, did this playground belong to those kids before they closed school….did the kids play in that playground prior to it being fenced off without any explanation? If the kids felt their rights were being violated, they had a right to go out and claim what they perceive as theirs….me and you and the government have the duty to go back to the drawing board and find out how the issue can be solved without hurting the kids. It sets bad precedence for all Kenyan pupils who watched this on TV. We have a duty to ensure that kids remain safe at school, the government has an even greater duty to make sure that safety is upheld at all times by our tax money that they continue to abuse unabashedly.
Had this happened elsewhere there would have been hell to pay. I have watched those videos and pictures over and over again. They don’t make any sense. Kenyan police really are robots for hire, why couldn’t even one cop stand up for the kids, go back to his supervisor and report that the operation could not go on because children are involve. They could have taken measures to bring those “activists” to court without resorting to such actions….kweli there is dire need of think tanks in this administration.
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mya88,
We have the benefit of hindsight and that is blinding us to the facts at hand.
The kids need protection we all agree not brutality but I have serious problems with endangering young lives for whatever reason.
Note this is not the first time kids have protested. What you can't run away from is this was no peaceful protest. They was on rampage cheered by the activists
Vooke, do you have clear proof that this was private property or are you just one of the spinners for hire here masquerading as an independent thinker. If it was private property why is the minister of lands saying it belonged to the school? The question you should be asking yourself is, did this playground belong to those kids before they closed school….did the kids play in that playground prior to it being fenced off without any explanation? If the kids felt their rights were being violated, they had a right to go out and claim what they perceive as theirs….me and you and the government have the duty to go back to the drawing board and find out how the issue can be solved without hurting the kids. It sets bad precedence for all Kenyan pupils who watched this on TV. We have a duty to ensure that kids remain safe at school, the government has an even greater duty to make sure that safety is upheld at all times by our tax money that they continue to abuse unabashedly.
Had this happened elsewhere there would have been hell to pay. I have watched those videos and pictures over and over again. They don’t make any sense. Kenyan police really are robots for hire, why couldn’t even one cop stand up for the kids, go back to his supervisor and report that the operation could not go on because children are involve. They could have taken measures to bring those “activists” to court without resorting to such actions….kweli there is dire need of think tanks in this administration.
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The Land grabber provoked the kids, their parents, the school management and activist. There was no other way around this. This has been modus operandi that nearly all schools in Nairobi have used to wade off or reclaim their land.
Don't blame the victim.
mya88,
We have the benefit of hindsight and that is blinding us to the facts at hand.
The kids need protection we all agree not brutality but I have serious problems with endangering young lives for whatever reason.
Note this is not the first time kids have protested. What you can't run away from is this was no peaceful protest. They was on rampage cheered by the activists
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vooke
Let's face the facts frankly:
- The grabbers hoped that the activists would turn up there on their own be thoroughly beaten and arrested then charged;
- Their anger is not about endangering children - when did rich people start caring about children and the children of the poor anyway?
- They are mad because the activists outsmarted them by placing the police in a compromising situation. They are angry because of being out-tricked!
Notice now how even the Church is coming out for the Children. The Kenyan Clergy has been pro-Jubilee since 2013. They came out to approve the laws that would allow the police to teargas children. Today they have found good company! Even political fossils like Mwatela who never uttered a single critical word in his life, is on board for the Children!
Here is the list:
Full Uhuru Public Apology (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148583/president-uhuru-s-full-apology-to-lang-ata-road-primary-school-pupils-after-teargasing-incident)
COTU (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148571/cotu-condemns-teargassing-of-school-children-terms-it-barbaric)
Tobiko (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000148580/tobiko-orders-release-of-four-people-arrested-during-lang-ata-primary-land-protest)
Mwatela (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148556/former-assistant-minister-wants-uhuru-to-apologise-over-teargassing-of-children)
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Whatever irks the grabbers is least of my worries, activists exploiting kids is IT, other parents' kids.
vooke
Let's face the facts frankly:
- The grabbers hoped that the activists would turn up there on their own be thoroughly beaten and arrested then charged;
- Their anger is not about endangering children - when did rich people start caring about children and the children of the poor anyway?
- They are mad because the activists outsmarted them by placing the police in a compromising situation. They are angry because of being out-tricked!
Notice now how even the Church is coming out for the Children. The Kenyan Clergy has been pro-Jubilee since 2013. They came out to approve the laws that would allow the police to teargas children. Today they have found good company! Even political fossils like Mwatela who never uttered a single critical word in his life, is on board for the Children!
Here is the list:
Full Uhuru Public Apology (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148583/president-uhuru-s-full-apology-to-lang-ata-road-primary-school-pupils-after-teargasing-incident)
COTU (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148571/cotu-condemns-teargassing-of-school-children-terms-it-barbaric)
Tobiko (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000148580/tobiko-orders-release-of-four-people-arrested-during-lang-ata-primary-land-protest)
Mwatela (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000148556/former-assistant-minister-wants-uhuru-to-apologise-over-teargassing-of-children)
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Activist are not blame. Our police have failed to come up with a workable formula to allow and handle demos. These incident will re-occur until our police recognise that every kenya has a right to demonstrate, picket and engage in CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.Police themselves regular jam communication and go on go slow everytime they want salary increment.
Our police should invite activist and other kenyas to develop guideline for peaceful and effective demos.
For instance it was well know there would be demos on that ground..the police choose to go there with heavy equipment..instead of meeting the school and activist..and agreeing on how the demos would be conducted peaceful.
Whatever irks the grabbers is least of my worries, activists exploiting kids is IT, other parents' kids.