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Title: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 06, 2023, 09:00:35 PM
How will he raise bail of $5M ???
Silly Zamundians exporting their upuzi majuu!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 06, 2023, 10:13:46 PM
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Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: patel on December 06, 2023, 11:27:50 PM
Life majuu is not for faint hearted. Wakenya na ujeuri. Mambo ya impunity wacha zamunda. Majuu criminal record will ruin you Mara that that. Ok. Poleni lakini. For the record domestic violence is a felony.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on December 06, 2023, 11:50:35 PM
I read that story.  Dude got very comfortable sharing his plans with a total stranger.  Seems like an airtight case.
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The driver gave detectives three audio recordings and one video recording of their conversations, in which police heard Mwithiga state that he was “very, very mad, I need someone who is a killer," the report stated. He also discussed with the driver various ways to kill the victim, including drugs or poison, the report stated.  Mwithiga said he wanted the driver to find someone to kill the victim because police could not connect the driver to him, according to the report.

On Monday, an undercover police sergeant had the driver take him to the Motel 6, where Mwithiga was staying. The undercover sergeant asked the driver to leave and, equipped with audio and video surveillance, sat in the vehicle with Mwithiga where they spoke for about an hour-and-a-half, according to the report.

During the conversation, Mwithiga made an agreement with the undercover officer to kill the victim, the report stated. Mwithiga then gave the sergeant $300 “in good faith” and $100 for the driver, the report stated.

According to their agreement, the hitman was going to take the victim on a date where they would both snort cocaine, the report stated. The victim would then snort a “hot batch,” containing pure fentanyl, according to the report.
https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/putnam-leonard-thuo-mwithiga-murder-hire-plot-18534036.php (https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/putnam-leonard-thuo-mwithiga-murder-hire-plot-18534036.php)
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 07, 2023, 01:11:33 AM
Simps get destroyed. This moron wanted to kill his ex over what? What is a fight of pussy or money? They need to cancel him every freaking morning to remind others never to behave the way he behaved
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 07, 2023, 03:32:39 AM
With such a watertight case and Class A Felony, the man is cooked for good. In Connecticut or Any state, judges have mandatory sentences after the jury returns the verdict. There is no wiggle room for the judge in sentencing, so obviously, the guy will get the compulsory minimum, which is 60 years, but at max, he may get a life. One of the reasons I like living in an environment with working systems like the US judicial system, where offenders 90%+ of the time get punished for their crimes.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 07, 2023, 09:54:53 AM
Motel 6? That caught my attention, that’s one shitty place to be planning this kind of nonsense. The story will eventually come out but this guy, not defending him is too intelligent for this kind of shit. I suspect lots of drugs and alcohol and of course money. The guy may have stumbled into a gold mine in Kenya and the wife took off with it. At the end of the day, he is screwed, he may as well start thinking of the insanity defense which never works.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 07, 2023, 10:00:48 AM
To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 07, 2023, 10:46:59 AM
To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars. 💯
2)Never invest your money with your wife. 💯
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.  💯
💯 💯 💯
Wisdom detected!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 07, 2023, 11:19:56 AM
With such a watertight case and Class A Felony, the man is cooked for good. In Connecticut or Any state, judges have mandatory sentences after the jury returns the verdict. There is no wiggle room for the judge in sentencing, so obviously, the guy will get the compulsory minimum, which is 60 years, but at max, he may get a life. One of the reasons I like living in an environment with working systems like the US judicial system, where offenders 90%+ of the time get punished for their crimes.
Guys in November remember some fellow from Boston area, left his girlfriend in a bloody mess in a car at he airport parking and boarded a plane to Kenya. There was supposed to be a manhunt in Zamunda. Has he been found yet? What a contrast, taking care of business by yourself vs looking to hire 3rd parties.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Kadudu on December 07, 2023, 11:38:38 AM
I am surprised that the murderer has yet to be found. FBI has an office in Nairobi and usually the Kenyan authorities cooperate when the felon is not politically connected. I assume it is just a matter of time before he is jetted back to the US and never to return.

Btw, why are the offenders almost to 100% from Mt Kenya region? :-\

Guys in November remember some fellow from Boston area, left his girlfriend in a bloody mess in a car at he airport parking and boarded a plane to Kenya. There was supposed to be a manhunt in Zamunda. Has he been found yet? What a contrast, taking care of business by yourself vs looking to hire 3rd parties.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 07, 2023, 06:05:19 PM
To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 08, 2023, 06:56:56 AM
To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!

Siku yako bado haijafika.

Try having sex with the housemaid or her friends, Whatever information you will get, you will never trust a woman again.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 08, 2023, 07:09:22 AM
To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!

Siku yako bado haijafika.

Try having sex with the housemaid or her friends, Whatever information you will get, you will never trust a woman again.
When you are married, you don't even think of such. The function of a man is to be build wealth and be loyal to his family! Only sane men and women do that, but the majority are wicked and that explains why they finish in tears.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: sema on December 08, 2023, 05:54:21 PM
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To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.

What nonsense! stop listening to that loser andrew kibe.  You clearly are either divorced or single.  American is a country of laws.  If you go to work and follow the law, you will have no issues.  People get divorced all the time and move on with their lives.

They are no conspiracies in this world against men or against anyone.  The conspiracies are in your head fooling you and that's how people become victims when they blame others for their own bad choices in life or mistakes.

Kenyans have a very bad victim mentality.  Always looking to blame others for their problems and never wanting to take responsibility.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: gout on December 08, 2023, 06:17:51 PM
What does it say about the Chief Hasla then?

To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!

Siku yako bado haijafika.

Try having sex with the housemaid or her friends, Whatever information you will get, you will never trust a woman again.
When you are married, you don't even think of such. The function of a man is to be build wealth and be loyal to his family! Only sane men and women do that, but the majority are wicked and that explains why they finish in tears.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: gout on December 08, 2023, 06:19:40 PM
Laws like the Adult Survivors Act?

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To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.

What nonsense! stop listening to that loser andrew kibe.  You clearly are either divorced or single.  American is a country of laws.  If you go to work and follow the law, you will have no issues.  People get divorced all the time and move on with their lives.

They are no conspiracies in this world against men or against anyone.  The conspiracies are in your head fooling you and that's how people become victims when they blame others for their own bad choices in life or mistakes.

Kenyans have a very bad victim mentality.  Always looking to blame others for their problems and never wanting to take responsibility.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 08, 2023, 08:48:25 PM
Good luck if you get a response to your question about Chief Hasla aka Baba Abby  :D

What does it say about the Chief Hasla then?

To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!

Siku yako bado haijafika.

Try having sex with the housemaid or her friends, Whatever information you will get, you will never trust a woman again.
When you are married, you don't even think of such. The function of a man is to be build wealth and be loyal to his family! Only sane men and women do that, but the majority are wicked and that explains why they finish in tears.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 08, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
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To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.

What nonsense! stop listening to that loser andrew kibe.  You clearly are either divorced or single.  American is a country of laws.  If you go to work and follow the law, you will have no issues.  People get divorced all the time and move on with their lives.

They are no conspiracies in this world against men or against anyone.  The conspiracies are in your head fooling you and that's how people become victims when they blame others for their own bad choices in life or mistakes.

Kenyans have a very bad victim mentality.  Always looking to blame others for their problems and never wanting to take responsibility.

I don't follow Andrew Kibe.I have no time for such nonsense.I am speaking out of experience.I got divorced after heavily investing in my wife and children.I lost family,friends and part of my wealth.It was downhill from there but after that experience,Of course i need a woman to share life with but i always have to keep in my mind,women are pathological liars,When she is crying just know she is laughing,when she kneels downs in church and cries to God,Just know she has been having sex with her coworkers and guilt is killing her.

My rule is simple,If we are in a relationship,I must make sure you give birth twice or thrice.You milk my money,I deflower you and reduce your market value while having baggage in the name of kids who keep you busy.Its the cold truth out there.

But the cardinal rule of a man is to have money because with money,you will always have women lined up for you.

Lastly,All men can't be wrong.Maathai,Kivuitu,Kaparo,Ruto,Kibaki,Kenyatta,Moi Vs On the orher hand ask yourself why Nakumicha,Enviroment Cs maasai,Aisha jumwa,Njoki ndungu,Karua martha are single mums?Ask yourself.

WOMEN ARE DOGS,You know that song?If you knew what your housemaid,watchman,Inlaws,Friends,know about your wife,you would shoot her dead like the kcb ex manager.

Siku yako ikifika,utalijua jiji.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 08, 2023, 11:47:09 PM
Good luck if you get a response to your question about Chief Hasla aka Baba Abby  :D

What does it say about the Chief Hasla then?

To avoid such drama,
1)Never fall in love with a woman,Just be a good husband who knows women are pathological liars.
2)Never invest your money with your wife.
3)Incase you are married,expect anything,anytime.
It ends up in tears.
That is nonsense. It is not only women that are pathological liars, I would say we men are worse on lies, cheating, and integrity than women. I invested my money on my kyuk wife decades ago, and 22 years later, we are inseperable with thriving kids. When two sane people meet and plan something, it is always a sucess. Most people who fail in marriages are usually mentally unstable or have no integrity in them. Marriage is so damn simple, all you have to do is be simple, faithful and loyal all your life while in relationship.
Those that move from relationship to relationship usually ends in tears!

Siku yako bado haijafika.

Try having sex with the housemaid or her friends, Whatever information you will get, you will never trust a woman again.
When you are married, you don't even think of such. The function of a man is to be build wealth and be loyal to his family! Only sane men and women do that, but the majority are wicked and that explains why they finish in tears.
Chief Hustler, like others, failed on that front, but unlike the rest of the pack, he is owning up to his mistakes and taking care of her daughter fully. Still, a man or a woman should fully commit to a relationship and family. Before age 25-28, you have all the time to search, fine-tune, and assess your life partner. After 30ish, anyone you meet will come with massive baggage and may, at some point in the future, take down your marriage/relationship should you choose to start a life together.
I think society is all messed up because of all the old singles, divorced, single parents, and irresponsible folks in the marketplace.
I don't understand why it is so hard to find someone and kick it together for 75 years like Jimmy Carter and his Rosalin (RIP)
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: KenyanPlato on December 09, 2023, 05:27:37 AM
Githunguri is a simp. How does a woman take your wealth. You got be a moron to let that happen. One thing I know is I will never lose money to anyone or wealth.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Pundit on December 09, 2023, 09:27:22 AM
Life has no manual
Marriage is hit-miss kind of thing
Some people strike golden women like RVHH and are also golden husband.
Most of us are average and stick to marriage
Others like Kenya Platos have 5 baby mamas.
Others never marry or divorce.
Just stop before you do extra silly stuff like this guy.

We need to here more about this guy but there is no excuse to plan to murder someone else.

Gone for life.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 09, 2023, 03:25:50 PM
Life has no manual
Marriage is hit-miss kind of thing
Some people strike golden women like RVHH and are also golden husband.
Most of us are average and stick to marriage
Others like Kenya Platos have 5 baby mamas.
Others never marry or divorce.
Just stop before you do extra silly stuff like this guy.

We need to here more about this guy but there is no excuse to plan to murder someone else.

Gone for life.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 09, 2023, 07:34:46 PM
Life has no manual
Marriage is hit-miss kind of thing
Some people strike golden women like RVHH and are also golden husband.
Most of us are average and stick to marriage
Others like Kenya Platos have 5 baby mamas.
Others never marry or divorce.
Just stop before you do extra silly stuff like this guy.

We need to here more about this guy but there is no excuse to plan to murder someone else.

Gone for life.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!

I think we need to separate issues.CARDINAL.RULES.

(1) God gives women two things,A brain and a VAGINA.If the brains fail to work,women use the vagina.In this scenario,If a Kenyan wife is given an opportunity to choose between her marriage and USA greencard,she would choose the green card and escape poverty.Look at Robert mugabe wife,she divorced her stupid husband,got him deported to china as a diplomat and became mugabe wife.Look at women leaders in Kenya,the Vagina rules.If there is a better offer than marriage,fuck marriage.Its garbage.A stupid man who doesn 't understand this will kill a woman and later learn while in jail or keep his peace in the grave.

(2) Human beings are polygamous in nature.This issue of you should only have sex with your husband or wife till death is a lie.Christianity ends after the church service.In the old traditional african culture,cheating was allowed amongst women.In kikuyu culture especially nyeri,women were allowed to even have one kid born out of wedlock.That said,even pastors themselves are the most promiscous people on earth,look at kibaki,ruto,Moi,they have children born out of their marriages,look at women sex scandals like alfred mutua lilian juliani,shebesh sonko,wamugunda karua,passaris etc etc.

The only reason RVHH is loyal to his wife is that they jointly own property or she is very rich,its the same reason why a woman would stick with you.Otherswise,a moneyed man and pussy are inseparable twins.

The moment a man understands how the brain,vagina and natural survival instinct in women works,that becomes the end of his troubles on earth.A woman can do anything,anytime and can leave you anytime.

End of topic.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 09, 2023, 07:41:54 PM

For those who doubt women are pathological liars.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 10, 2023, 06:38:14 AM

For those who doubt women are pathological liars.
A little translation to explain your point would help put your point across
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Pundit on December 10, 2023, 09:45:54 AM
Definitely staying on good behaviour helps;
But also remember this game of two people;
Sometimes you get the wrong partner;
You can try make it work - however imperfect - or divorce.
But we should stop before we kill each other.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 10, 2023, 11:10:37 AM
True. No one goes into a marriage hoping it will fail because when it does, there are no winners. Reading the signs and walking away sooner than later saves one or the other from doing something silly that will get you behind bars a very long time. First accept that it can happen to anyone and then you will not cloud your judgement!

Definitely staying on good behaviour helps;
But also remember this game of two people;
Sometimes you get the wrong partner;
You can try make it work - however imperfect - or divorce.
But we should stop before we kill each other.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 10, 2023, 11:23:23 AM
WOMEN ARE DOGS,You know that song?If you knew what your housemaid,watchman,Inlaws,Friends,know about your wife,you would shoot her dead like the kcb ex manager.

Siku yako ikifika,utalijua jiji.
Yenyewe those you have mentioned,  watchiees, housemaids etc go to their graves with a lot of secrets....
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: audacityofhope on December 10, 2023, 11:32:45 AM
What nonsense! stop listening to that loser andrew kibe. You clearly are either divorced or single.  American is a country of laws.  If you go to work and follow the law, you will have no issues.  People get divorced all the time and move on with their lives.
Oxymoron. You castigate a guy for being divorced or single then you go on to say [it is normal] people get divorced all the time and move on.
Shida ya kuropoka ndo hio. When will you ever learn to pass on a non-contradictory message?
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: gout on December 10, 2023, 12:30:51 PM
I saw a comment that choosing a woman is just like when buying a thermos. Ni kuangukia tu. You do due diligence pay top price and it won't keep tea warm. Another stumbles on Chinese knockdown and it functions for decades.

The ability and choice on when to run depends on the mettle you are made of.

We go to school for decades on how to serve the plantation for simple tasks such as sales, accounting, teaching, health, IT name it, but you will be lucky to get a few lessons on how to live with another human being for decades.

Definitely staying on good behaviour helps;
But also remember this game of two people;
Sometimes you get the wrong partner;
You can try make it work - however imperfect - or divorce.
But we should stop before we kill each other.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 10, 2023, 02:00:29 PM
True. No one goes into a marriage hoping it will fail because when it does, there are no winners. Reading the signs and walking away sooner than later saves one or the other from doing something silly that will get you behind bars a very long time. First accept that it can happen to anyone and then you will not cloud your judgement!

Definitely staying on good behaviour helps;
But also remember this game of two people;
Sometimes you get the wrong partner;
You can try make it work - however imperfect - or divorce.
But we should stop before we kill each other.
It is about personal choices and best practices. You can choose to be a great person or a flawed human being. Some men or women can choose to love money and material things or decide to build a great family. It is all choices in the brain you make. Most folks have modest mental issues that tend to compel them to make bad choices, which cascade to other facets of their life.
Cultural issues, peer pressure, and addictions of some sort also pile on top, making the situation even dire.
For issues like divorce, data show extramarital affairs, physical abuse, substance abuse, lack of family support, and financial stress account for 90% of the causes. All those are usually, to some extent, things a man or a woman of substance can avoid. Make good choices from the adult age, and you can easily avoid it! I think there is a manual, be a great human being all the time, and you can avoid the bad things of life!

Correct.
There are no winners in divorce.The biggest victim will be the children,Their father in Jail and their mother starting a new life while depressed,she will fall into the wrong hands sooner or later.They children will not be able to concentrate in school,they may even never get married or have children.some of these kids falls into drugs,others even commit suicide.The second batch will be the parents of the divorces,they will die of heart problems thinking of the events that just transpired.Sometimes before people get into marriage,they need to understand that there are very many people involved.There is nothing good that comes out of divorce.

Men are the most affected by divorce,when the woman leaves and you wake up and look at the house you built together,the children clothing,books,car,memories,photos,you automatically become mad.you either sink into depression or harm your ex wife.To avoid all this,polygamy is the other,if one woman leaves,you are left with another with children.Allowing a single woman to control your offspring is dangerous to your existence.

As a man you should also know,Before a woman leaves you,She has sat down,thought about her options and knows you are an asshole.If you chase her you are the looser.I would n't be surprised that woman is already living with another man in Usa.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: gout on December 10, 2023, 05:47:46 PM
Githunguri on this subject sounds like a character in Bukowski writings.
Quote
The Shoelace

a woman, a
tire that’s flat, a
disease, a
desire: fears in front of you,
fears that hold so still
you can study them
like pieces on a
chessboard…
it’s not the large things that
send a man to the
madhouse. death he’s ready for, or
murder, incest, robbery, fire, flood…
no, it’s the continuing series of small tragedies
that send a man to the
madhouse…
not the death of his love
but a shoelace that snaps
with no time left …
The dread of life
is that swarm of trivialities
that can kill quicker than cancer
and which are always there -
license plates or taxes
or expired driver’s license,
or hiring or firing,
doing it or having it done to you, or
roaches or flies or a
broken hook on a
screen, or out of gas
or too much gas,
the sink’s stopped-up, the landlord’s drunk,
the president doesn’t care and the governor’s
crazy.
light switch broken, mattress like a
porcupine;
$105 for a tune-up, carburetor and fuel pump at
sears roebuck;
and the phone bill’s up and the market’s
down
and the toilet chain is
broken,
and the light has burned out -
the hall light, the front light, the back light,
the inner light; it’s
darker than hell
and twice as
expensive.
then there’s always crabs and ingrown toenails
and people who insist they’re
your friends;
there’s always that and worse;
leaky faucet, christ and christmas;
blue salami, 9 day rains,
50 cent avocados
and purple
liverwurst.

or making it
as a waitress at norm’s on the split shift,
or as an emptier of
bedpans,
or as a carwash or a busboy
or a stealer of old lady’s purses
leaving them screaming on the sidewalks
with broken arms at the age of 80.

suddenly
2 red lights in your rear view mirror
and blood in your
underwear;
toothache, and $979 for a bridge
$300 for a gold
tooth,
and china and russia and america, and
long hair and short hair and no
hair, and beards and no
faces, and plenty of zigzag but no
pot, except maybe one to piss in
and the other one around your
gut.

with each broken shoelace
out of one hundred broken shoelaces,
one man, one woman, one
thing
enters a
madhouse.

so be careful
when you
bend over.


https://allpoetry.com/poem/14326889-The-Shoelace-by-Charles-Bukowski
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Githunguri on December 11, 2023, 12:49:27 PM

For those who doubt women are pathological liars.
A little translation to explain your point would help put your point across



1)The inooro tv interview kikuyu woman who murdered the husband is in swahili.very clear.you can even google search on story for factual details.
2) The second one is the lady who refused to get married on wedding day last weekend and even blames the pastor.She lies that its not her fault,however the young man speaks the truth and calls her out.

Women are very dangerous creatures.
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 11, 2023, 09:56:22 PM
I firmly believe mental illness and history have a lot to do with many ills in society, relationships included. If you are sane and married, especially with kids, a normal thing to do is go above and beyond to solve problems instead of divorce. Those divorcing while they have kids create more significant problems, though they think they are cutting the issues. Wife, Kids, husband, and entire tree will suffer in the short and long term. More importantly, the community and the world will suffer. The family unit is a workshop where humans are molded, fine-tuned, and released to society as decent folk! If not recalibrated right, they will, over time, be defects in a community where they likely churn more flawed humans.
On Polygamy, I think the problems are being exacerbated and magnified because if one cannot handle one wife and few kids, imagine two wives and many more kids. It is better to have eight kids from one woman than two wives with four kids each! The more the relationships, the more problems, mainly when kids are grown and the family becomes large.

Anyone can be a father, but being a great dad or mom for at least 30+ years (Kids to get performing software) requires focus and personal integrity.
From day 1, dad has to play his role and so as mom for decades without ifs or buts. I may view things in the Western mindset since I have lived in the US for most of my adult life. Still, globally, women love a fully present father, especially dads like me who do algebra, the periodic table, and world history and keep tabs on what kids are learning daily. You do the right things and what makes your spouse happy; I don't see divorce or disagreements in the family. Play your role with integrity and efficiency as a head of the household, and everything will be fine. You fail and the whole family will fail!
Drinking in bars, hanging out with friends, and not knowing your kid's routine are ways to fail as a man! You should hang out with your wife and kids outside your everyday routine! It is stress-free and works magic!
Title: Re: Okuyos & broken marriages. Gets deadly too often
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 12, 2023, 12:49:15 AM
I will preface this by saying that I love my wife and the life we are building together but marriage is a human and religious construct that does not work for majority of people. In the USA, 60% of all marriages end up in divorce causing a lot of societal isssues. If you have been around an average American, when they talk about their families, you get lost in the middle of the conversation, so many divorces all the way from grandparents to multiple step fathers and step mothers, sisters, half brothers etc. if you are lucky and meet the right person, it’s wonderful, if not, you are screwed. Look at Tiger woods, married his maid but was young so he wanted to screw around. The maid found out and completely screwed him up to where he was on medication for sex addiction( another idiotic thing), the guy has never been the same again. The world is becoming less religious and I think institutions like marriage will also eventually disappear but not in our lifetime. In places like Kenya, people are also starting to question things like Christianity and its meaning to us, and its ridiculousness. If look at places like Kenya, most people live on horrible marriages of convenience, it’s totally pathetic, I look at some of my Kenyan friends and wonder why they are even married, they do not even seem to like each other, there is nothing worse than a loveless, sexless marriage.