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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 03:17:39 PM

Title: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
The poor Palestinians are be squeezed out -- soon than later. There is talk of Netanyahu being politically toast for ignoring Shin Bet warnings about Oct-7. But personally I think it was a calculated smokescreen for Nakba 2.0.

Egypt can resettle the Gazans in Sinai - and demand an arm & a leg from Israel, US, EU. He can easily line up the GCC and Abraham Accord camp politically. Resistance obviously from Hamas, Iran and usual suspects. Egypt being 99%  Sunni same as Palestine can pull this off without unbearable demographic challenges.

But el-Sisi should milk desperate West and Israel dry for it. And go down history better than Abdel Nasser.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on November 03, 2023, 04:01:15 PM
You are dreaming. Palestinians will not leave their country for Sinai. It is only in the interest of the rightwing Israelis.

Israel can never break the resistance of the Palestinians. In the meantime the massacre of civilians in Gaza has turned most sympathy in the world against Israel. What the Hamas did on the 7th of October was terrorisim, but the Israeli responce is also state terror.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 04:14:24 PM
Kadudu do you believe Israeli had no 411 about it? Palestine State is a pipedream now. See what is happening in the West Bank - live evictions by armed settlers with army backing. Settling them in Sinai is MERCY - the alternative is the slow death we have witnessed for decades. It has only escalated with time.

In future history will narrate how the Red Indians, Aborigins, Palestinians, etc were wiped out from their ancestry. Welcome to Darwinism.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Pundit on November 03, 2023, 04:23:12 PM
Zionist plans definitely to delete Palestine and they are about done.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt can give them a desert - huge refugee camps - and keep the fight on.

I dont think they can secede the country to them.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 05:27:17 PM
Zionist plans definitely to delete Palestine and they are about done.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt can give them a desert - huge refugee camps - and keep the fight on.

I dont think they can secede the country to them.

It been happening anyway for years despite lots of tears, terror, UN resolutions, BDS boycotts. Egypt maintains heavily army-manned barricade at Rafah -- otherwise GAZANS ARE DYING TO FLEE FROM HELL. Why not show them mercy and get paid for it?

Obviously once they leave there is no coming back - it one-way exodus. Just strike a good deal to include citizenship.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 05:39:36 PM
Painful reality. After this wipeout it will 99% gone. Egypt should take Gazans while Jordan and Saudi settle the West Bankers. Integrate them into the population as full citizens not refugees.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkoSY2KW4gSsOWmMkoLUvhHT6WUQrqciPxgg&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on November 03, 2023, 05:42:14 PM
Because Egypt will never agree. Why take up people who will not have loyalty to their state?Till today majority of the population in Jordan is Palestinian but have no citizenship in Jordan. The Queen of Jordan is Palestinian.


It been happening anyway for years despite lots of tears, terror, UN resolutions, BDS boycotts. Egypt maintains heavily army-manned barricade at Rafah -- otherwise GAZANS ARE DYING TO FLEE FROM HELL. Why not show them mercy and get paid for it?

Obviously once they leave there is no coming back - it one-way exodus. Just strike a good deal to include citizenship.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 03, 2023, 06:30:28 PM
The poor Palestinians are be squeezed out -- soon than later. There is talk of Netanyahu being politically toast for ignoring Shin Bet warnings about Oct-7. But personally I think it was a calculated smokescreen for Nakba 2.0.

Egypt can resettle the Gazans in Sinai - and demand an arm & a leg from Israel, US, EU. He can easily line up the GCC and Abraham Accord camp politically. Resistance obviously from Hamas, Iran and usual suspects. Egypt being 99%  Sunni same as Palestine can pull this off without unbearable demographic challenges.

But el-Sisi should milk desperate West and Israel dry for it. And go down history better than Abdel Nasser.
Welcome back i was worried you commited suicide.
Egypt and the world know this is Israels plan ,exile Palestine to Sinai, this will never happen,thats why Egypt is not allowing the Palestinians in once they allow Israel grabs gaza. Pipe dream on the Israeli side. I don't think Egypt would even think of selling Sinai as that wou be ultimate betrayal to all Arabs.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 06:38:19 PM
Yes BUT - it is not the Palestinian refugees but the Jordanians, Saudis, Egyptians who won't grant them citizenship.

Jordan (or Lebanon) is quite small demographically - and the monarchy is from a tribal minority - so it is understandable. But Egypt and Saudi are relatively quite more populous. Integration is critical - should be throughout the population not in numerate camps. Living among Arabs is much better than among than the Zionists.

Saudi's objections to wholesale resettlement are marginal and economic. They are afraid other refugees would equally encroach on their welfare system. The Egyptian economy is dire - so both should be amenable to economic offers.

Egypt at 100m+ folks - is broke and should take the Israeli and Western offer but drive a super-hard bargain.

Because Egypt will never agree. Why take up people who will not have loyalty to their state?Till today majority of the population in Jordan is Palestinian but have no citizenship in Jordan. The Queen of Jordan is Palestinian.


It been happening anyway for years despite lots of tears, terror, UN resolutions, BDS boycotts. Egypt maintains heavily army-manned barricade at Rafah -- otherwise GAZANS ARE DYING TO FLEE FROM HELL. Why not show them mercy and get paid for it?

Obviously once they leave there is no coming back - it one-way exodus. Just strike a good deal to include citizenship.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 06:43:35 PM
The poor Palestinians are be squeezed out -- soon than later. There is talk of Netanyahu being politically toast for ignoring Shin Bet warnings about Oct-7. But personally I think it was a calculated smokescreen for Nakba 2.0.

Egypt can resettle the Gazans in Sinai - and demand an arm & a leg from Israel, US, EU. He can easily line up the GCC and Abraham Accord camp politically. Resistance obviously from Hamas, Iran and usual suspects. Egypt being 99%  Sunni same as Palestine can pull this off without unbearable demographic challenges.

But el-Sisi should milk desperate West and Israel dry for it. And go down history better than Abdel Nasser.
Welcome back i was worried you commited suicide.
Egypt and the world know this is Israels plan ,exile Palestine to Sinai, this will never happen,thats why Egypt is not allowing the Palestinians in once they allow Israel grabs gaza. Pipe dream on the Israeli side. I don't think Egypt would even think of selling Sinai as that wou be ultimate betrayal to all Arabs.

I was depressed for months after you and other idiots here crowned Ruto. I have slowly accepted the reality.

My argument is the Palestinians will ultimately be forced out completely anyway - why not show them mercy and make lemonade out of it.

Israel proposed writing off Egypt's $20B debt for hosting Gaza refugees

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-netanyahu-lobbied-eu-push-egypt-accept-gaza-refugees
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 03, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
Won't work Robina because everyone knows israeli plans even them jews are not hiding it, Egypt allowing Palestinians in Sinai would mark end of the palestine state, west Bank would also be forcefully emptied. This can't happen, as I say this time Israel will need God more than in the past because what is coming for them will be shocking, Iran is moving in for the Kill unless Israel attacks Iran first but all outcomes for Israel are grim.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 03, 2023, 07:37:16 PM
Won't work Robina because everyone knows israeli plans even them jews are not hiding it, Egypt allowing Palestinians in Sinai would mark end of the palestine state, west Bank would also be forcefully emptied. This can't happen, as I say this time Israel will need God more than in the past because what is coming for them will be shocking, Iran is moving in for the Kill unless Israel attacks Iran first but all outcomes for Israel are grim.

Attacking Israel will just end in usual outcome. Iran will be bombed by US aircraft carriers off the Arabian Gulf, the mullahs know this. By waiting it out as you suggest, Israel will squeeze them out FOR NOTHING. I am not proposing temporary settlements but permanent citizenship - which is inevitable.

But I see Sisi has taken your advice.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 06, 2023, 08:52:42 PM
Antony Goebbels Blinken is running around like a headless chicken, no one's listening to him, not Netanyahu nor our Arab "partners".

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 06, 2023, 09:06:46 PM
Mob attacks US base in Turkey

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 06, 2023, 11:06:01 PM
Ahed Tamimi back in the news

Not a valid youtube URLhttps://www.youtube.com/live/yGZIX9vxc7c?si=VtGpVmb7BLfXXiIA
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 06, 2023, 11:11:34 PM
wtf seems most links are rigged into propaganda channels

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 06, 2023, 11:22:38 PM

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 07, 2023, 02:11:22 AM
You have to give it up to Palestinians, constantly demonstrating daily for over 70 years at threat of being shot and killed is no joke.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 07, 2023, 07:13:14 AM
You have to give it up to Palestinians, constantly demonstrating daily for over 70 years at threat of being shot and killed is no joke.

AHED TAMIMI is a hero - "Palestinian Rosa Parks" - for kicking IDF commandoes bareknuckles fearlessly
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 07, 2023, 07:13:37 AM
the Nakba
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on November 07, 2023, 08:20:04 AM
"No weapons for genocide"
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: patel on November 07, 2023, 01:14:13 PM
Egypt will not accept because this means death to Egypt economy.  This war is all about Ben Gurion canal to replace Suez canal. A 9 billion per year Egypt cash cow.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on December 10, 2023, 10:56:02 PM
Gaza wipeout nearly complete - 2m folks squeezed few kilometers from Egypt border. I don't see anyone going back to Gaza -- it one-way ticket to Sinai.

Egypt said to warn Israel ties could ‘rupture’ if Gaza multitudes flee to Sinai https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-said-to-warn-israel-ties-could-rupture-if-gaza-multitudes-flee-to-sinai/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on December 11, 2023, 01:10:54 AM
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on April 01, 2025, 06:25:42 PM
Nakba 2.0 kicked off on Oct-7 2023 - under Joe Biden.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 01, 2025, 08:52:23 PM
Nakba 2.0 kicked off on Oct-7 2023 - under Joe Biden.
Joe was for a two-state solution and still is. AIPAC and America's religious leaders, along with influential figures in the military-industrial complex, have been the driving forces behind this effort. If Harris had won, I don't think anyone would be talking about Palestinians leaving Gaza. I think Netanyahu wants to achieve more now that Trump is in power. He understands that after 2028, the situation will shift, and if he hasn't expelled or killed all Palestinians by then, the debate over a two-state solution will resurface. If you want to piss off right-wingers, tell them about the right of the Palestinian state to exist the same way they always say "The right of Israel to exist." Maga, Netanyahu, and most rethugs want the Israeli state to exist and the Palestinian state to die. That is their goal always
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on April 01, 2025, 09:00:50 PM
Nakba 2.0 kicked off on Oct-7 2023 - under Joe Biden.
Joe was for a two-state solution and still is. AIPAC and America's religious leaders, along with influential figures in the military-industrial complex, have been the driving forces behind this effort. If Harris had won, I don't think anyone would be talking about Palestinians leaving Gaza. I think Netanyahu wants to achieve more now that Trump is in power. He understands that after 2028, the situation will shift, and if he hasn't expelled or killed all Palestinians by then, the debate over a two-state solution will resurface. If you want to piss off right-wingers, tell them about the right of the Palestinian state to exist the same way they always say "The right of Israel to exist." Maga, Netanyahu, and most rethugs want the Israeli state to exist and the Palestinian state to die. That is their goal always

The Dems talk of a two-state solution is a lie. A very slow painful death. Rethug one-off eviction is mercy.

Palestine is dying - a shot to the head is better than slow torture.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on April 01, 2025, 09:24:12 PM
Nakba 2.0 kicked off on Oct-7 2023 - under Joe Biden.
Joe was for a two-state solution and still is. AIPAC and America's religious leaders, along with influential figures in the military-industrial complex, have been the driving forces behind this effort. If Harris had won, I don't think anyone would be talking about Palestinians leaving Gaza. I think Netanyahu wants to achieve more now that Trump is in power. He understands that after 2028, the situation will shift, and if he hasn't expelled or killed all Palestinians by then, the debate over a two-state solution will resurface. If you want to piss off right-wingers, tell them about the right of the Palestinian state to exist the same way they always say "The right of Israel to exist." Maga, Netanyahu, and most rethugs want the Israeli state to exist and the Palestinian state to die. That is their goal always

The Dems talk of a two-state solution is a lie. A very slow painful death. Rethug one-off eviction is mercy.

Palestine is dying - a shot to the head is better than slow torture.
There is no mercy in rethugs. After they leave, they want to engineer a way to eliminate them once there. AXIOS report was terrifying. Wanting them to go to volatile areas or deserts where they will wither slowly is a more painful, slow death. Dems option is always better, but pro-Palestinian idiots in the USA always demand more within the democratic circle and nothing from killer rethugs. AIPAC and other pro-Israel groups are also constantly defeating congressmen like Andy Levin in Michigan and all over the USA when they propose fair Middle East policies. 80-90% of DEMS congress are pro-Palestinian and want a two-state solution. 90-100% of rethug congress are anti-Palestinian and always slip in very bad policies. The problem has always been that 10% of pro-Israel Democrats and 99% of rethugs have funded Israel over the decades. In 2028, I wish we would HAVE someone like AOC or Ilhan Omar run for president. America is shifting severely to the left, but rethugs want serious changes before their time expires!
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on April 02, 2025, 05:20:18 AM
Nakba 2.0 kicked off on Oct-7 2023 - under Joe Biden.
Joe was for a two-state solution and still is. AIPAC and America's religious leaders, along with influential figures in the military-industrial complex, have been the driving forces behind this effort. If Harris had won, I don't think anyone would be talking about Palestinians leaving Gaza. I think Netanyahu wants to achieve more now that Trump is in power. He understands that after 2028, the situation will shift, and if he hasn't expelled or killed all Palestinians by then, the debate over a two-state solution will resurface. If you want to piss off right-wingers, tell them about the right of the Palestinian state to exist the same way they always say "The right of Israel to exist." Maga, Netanyahu, and most rethugs want the Israeli state to exist and the Palestinian state to die. That is their goal always

The Dems talk of a two-state solution is a lie. A very slow painful death. Rethug one-off eviction is mercy.

Palestine is dying - a shot to the head is better than slow torture.
There is no mercy in rethugs. After they leave, they want to engineer a way to eliminate them once there. AXIOS report was terrifying. Wanting them to go to volatile areas or deserts where they will wither slowly is a more painful, slow death. Dems option is always better, but pro-Palestinian idiots in the USA always demand more within the democratic circle and nothing from killer rethugs. AIPAC and other pro-Israel groups are also constantly defeating congressmen like Andy Levin in Michigan and all over the USA when they propose fair Middle East policies. 80-90% of DEMS congress are pro-Palestinian and want a two-state solution. 90-100% of rethug congress are anti-Palestinian and always slip in very bad policies. The problem has always been that 10% of pro-Israel Democrats and 99% of rethugs have funded Israel over the decades. In 2028, I wish we would HAVE someone like AOC or Ilhan Omar run for president. America is shifting severely to the left, but rethugs want serious changes before their time expires!

Yes Trump-Musk madness will cause mega-inflation and recession. They are also gutting Medicaid. F&B said somewhere we might easily have a Bernie next. I agree.

No, I don't see any of them saving Palestine. THAT IS A LIE okay? There have been many Dem administrations with Congressional majorities who did not solve the problem but continued funding and arming Israel. E.g. Biden-Harris halloooo.

Have you checked that map of a receding Palestine? It about 2% vs Israel 98% now.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 08, 2025, 11:13:09 AM
I said Gaza will be emptied - followed by the West Bank. Israel Katz (Defense Sec) let the cat out of the bag about new concentration camp at Rafah.

Trump and Netanyahu double down on plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/07/08/ppri-j08.html
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on July 08, 2025, 12:05:06 PM
How will you empty Gaza? Where will the people be taken to? One cannot keep 2 million people in a concentration camp forever. Israel should face reality and know that cannot work.

I said Gaza will be emptied - followed by the West Bank. Israel Katz (Defense Sec) let the cat out of the bag about new concentration camp at Rafah.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 08, 2025, 12:16:01 PM
Israel and the US are in talks with Libya, Somaliland. They have been or will be paid billions but can't admit it. After dark Gazans will be loaded into jumbos and dumped there.

How will you empty Gaza? Where will the people be taken to? One cannot keep 2 million people in a concentration camp forever. Israel should face reality and know that cannot work.

I said Gaza will be emptied - followed by the West Bank. Israel Katz (Defense Sec) let the cat out of the bag about new concentration camp at Rafah.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 08, 2025, 12:51:43 PM
Here - Kadudu. You can watch it live


Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’

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Military ordered to turn ruins of Rafah into ‘humanitarian city’ but experts call the plan an internment camp for all Palestinians in Gaza

Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.

Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists.

Israeli forces would control the perimeter of the site and initially “move” 600,000 Palestinians into the area – mostly people currently displaced in the al-Mawasi area.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/07/israeli-minister-reveals-plan-to-force-population-of-gaza-into-camp-on-ruins-of-rafah
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: gout on July 08, 2025, 03:36:53 PM
After Iran thwacking the Israhell population will see a significant dip in a year.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 08, 2025, 03:43:56 PM
Half an m already fled after oct7.

If you count per capita more Israelis died than iranians. Despite the bomb shelters and US/EU help to take down the missiles.

After Iran thwacking the Israhell population will see a significant dip in a year.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on July 08, 2025, 04:54:50 PM
Let them talk. The implementation takes it for granted Eygpt will play along. Let President El-Sisi do anything in that direction and I can assure you two days later he will be in exile.

Here - Kadudu. You can watch it live


Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’

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Military ordered to turn ruins of Rafah into ‘humanitarian city’ but experts call the plan an internment camp for all Palestinians in Gaza

Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.

Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists.

Israeli forces would control the perimeter of the site and initially “move” 600,000 Palestinians into the area – mostly people currently displaced in the al-Mawasi area.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 08, 2025, 07:47:06 PM
Not Egypt or Jordan. They will be deported to Libya and Somaliland - both are ruled by warlords and factional governments.

Let them talk. The implementation takes it for granted Eygpt will play along. Let President El-Sisi do anything in that direction and I can assure you two days later he will be in exile.

Here - Kadudu. You can watch it live


Israeli plan for forced transfer of Gaza’s population ‘a blueprint for crimes against humanity’

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Military ordered to turn ruins of Rafah into ‘humanitarian city’ but experts call the plan an internment camp for all Palestinians in Gaza

Israel Katz said he has ordered Israel’s military to prepare for establishing a camp, which he called a “humanitarian city”, on the ruins of the city of Rafah, Haaretz newspaper reported.

Palestinians would go through “security screening” before entering, and once inside would not be allowed to leave, Katz said at a briefing for Israeli journalists.

Israeli forces would control the perimeter of the site and initially “move” 600,000 Palestinians into the area – mostly people currently displaced in the al-Mawasi area.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on July 09, 2025, 09:28:28 AM
How will you deport 2 million people to far away countries? Be realistic. It cannot happen. You would require thousands of planes or ships plus personel to man those shipments. You are taking Libya and Somalilanfd for granted. Who told you the locals will cooperate?

Not Egypt or Jordan. They will be deported to Libya and Somaliland - both are ruled by warlords and factional governments.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 09, 2025, 03:46:50 PM
I don't disagree that the logistics is a nightmare. Yet the grapevine is rife with Nakba 2.0 plans. The Mediteranean and Red Seas make it possible. I would expect people to be left hungry until they 'volunteer' to board MV Tripoli.

Bibi and Trump are saying this openly in their photo-ops at the Rose Garden.

Netanyahu, Trump discuss forced transfer of Palestinians out of Gaza
8 Jul 2025
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/8/netanyahu-trump-discuss-forced-transfer-of-palestinians-out-of-gaza

How will you deport 2 million people to far away countries? Be realistic. It cannot happen. You would require thousands of planes or ships plus personel to man those shipments. You are taking Libya and Somalilanfd for granted. Who told you the locals will cooperate?

Not Egypt or Jordan. They will be deported to Libya and Somaliland - both are ruled by warlords and factional governments.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 10, 2025, 07:00:27 PM
That is the diplomatic language, but others are leaking that the discussion is about how to kill them faster in mass because even if they are moved out, they may regroup and return back in the future. The method of extermination is probably the food poisoning documented recently by an American whistleblower. In the meantime, the Genocide-joe idiots that voted Trump in Michigan are nowhere to be seen. Trump has also hatched a plan for denaturalization mainly targeting Muslims, which I'm sure will affect them the most. Rashida Tlaib et al. are quiet in shame!
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met United States President Donald Trump at the White House, with the two leaders repeating their controversial proposal to forcibly transfer thousands of Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip.

Trump and Netanyahu met for dinner in the Blue Room of the White House on Monday as indirect talks in Qatar between Israel and Hamas on US-backed proposals for a 60-day ceasefire to halt the 22-month Gaza war appeared to gather some momentum.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 10, 2025, 08:32:28 PM
Seems some diplomacy might work but I don't hold my breath. Israel only agreed to increase aid after the EU threatened to review its trade agreement with Israel.


Israel, EU agree to boost Gaza aid: ‘More trucks, more crossings, and more routes’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-eu-agree-to-boost-gaza-aid-more-trucks-more-crossings-and-more-routes/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 10, 2025, 08:48:53 PM
You and Termi are wrong in your analysis of this situation. I guess you are still smarting from Kamala's atrocious drabbing by Trump. THE TAIL WAGS THE DOG here - the party or color or gender of POTUS does not matter. Israel would be slaughtering and starving kids en mass even under President Harris. Indeed, the massacres were going on with the full support of Biden and Kamala who overtly pretended to stymie or moderate Israel whereas we later learnt this was pure PR.

Well, at least the Rethugs are not as pretentious as the Dems.

The only dynamic is why Muslims/Arabs should blindly support Democrats like they have for decades. Now that they withdrew their support - future Dem candidates must table a solid proposal to get it back. Or well forfeit it and tilt the former blue states (Michigan, Pennsylvania, perhaps Georgia) to deeper purple.

That is the diplomatic language, but others are leaking that the discussion is about how to kill them faster in mass because even if they are moved out, they may regroup and return back in the future. The method of extermination is probably the food poisoning documented recently by an American whistleblower. In the meantime, the Genocide-joe idiots that voted Trump in Michigan are nowhere to be seen. Trump has also hatched a plan for denaturalization mainly targeting Muslims, which I'm sure will affect them the most. Rashida Tlaib et al. are quiet in shame!
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has met United States President Donald Trump at the White House, with the two leaders repeating their controversial proposal to forcibly transfer thousands of Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip.

Trump and Netanyahu met for dinner in the Blue Room of the White House on Monday as indirect talks in Qatar between Israel and Hamas on US-backed proposals for a 60-day ceasefire to halt the 22-month Gaza war appeared to gather some momentum.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 10, 2025, 09:35:53 PM
That is the line the folks that made terrible decisions use to comfort themselves, especially the Arab community in Michigan. Kamala and Biden were adamantly for a two-state solution and supported Israel as far as eradicating Hamas, but USAID and the State Department were actively engaged in genuinely addressing innocent civilians. The Michiganders wanted Biden to do more. On the other hand, even Killer Netanyahu was initially scared of Trump's proposals, like the speedy removal of all Palestinians by any means necessary, including starving them to death, poisoning, etc. The current hardline positions you see now are not Israeli but more of White House proposals. Total eradication of Palestinians out of Gaza is the only policy at the moment. Democrats never advocated for such!
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 12, 2025, 02:04:47 PM
Kamala Harris is a BABY KILLER - exactly like Biden and Killary and Trump - a vampire in dove skin. Being liberal, black or female means nothing in this context.

About Trump's actions - expelling Gazans to Sinai or Libya is MERCY. Expulsion or poisoning is actually by far much better than the slow, painful death they would suffer under Democrats. I don't know about Michiganders but I for one have help this view for long. This thread tells it well.

Just as we later learnt Biden and Kamala were openly criticizing Israel but quietly nudging him on, hypocritical Dems have no intention to push for two states. Both parties support One Israel, No Palestine. The only difference is the Dem hypocrisy.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 12, 2025, 06:57:26 PM
Kamala Harris is a BABY KILLER - exactly like Biden and Killary and Trump - a vampire in dove skin. Being liberal, black or female means nothing in this context.

About Trump's actions - expelling Gazans to Sinai or Libya is MERCY. Expulsion or poisoning is actually by far much better than the slow, painful death they would suffer under Democrats. I don't know about Michiganders but I for one have help this view for long. This thread tells it well.

Just as we later learnt Biden and Kamala were openly criticizing Israel but quietly nudging him on, hypocritical Dems have no intention to push for two states. Both parties support One Israel, No Palestine. The only difference is the Dem hypocrisy.
Be objective. Liberals and progressives, to whom it seems you and I belong, are upset that democrats and Biden didn't do enough on Palestinian support. That is where beef comes from. On the other hand, everyone knows Trump only supports Israel and wants Palestinians completely removed. Moving them out was the initial Trump policy, but it seems they have settled on killing them because of fear they may return. Trump, in a recent meeting with Netanyahu, resolved to do 100% what Israel wants, and that is to completely destroy Palestinians in Gaza and then head to west bank and do the same. The goal is to have one Israel and no Palestinians in Palestine or anywhere in the world. The Michigan Arab community has been sending emissaries apologizing to Biden because they now see the picture. Hypocrisy and lukewarm support are better than systematic erasing of people through death!
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Even so, Biden — like most past U.S. leaders — has sought to maintain some balance and support for Palestinians and to present the United States as a potential mediator in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

By contrast, Trump was the first U.S. chief executive who gave near-absolute, unconditional support to Israel, handing the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu everything it asked for and then some.

Trump moved the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to the disputed capital of Jerusalem, the first major country to do so. He also endorsed Israeli control of the Golan Heights, a contested fertile plateau that Israel seized from Syria in the 1967 Middle East war. He did so without concessions from Israel. 
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 13, 2025, 11:11:05 AM
"Roho ni mzungu.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 15, 2025, 07:23:01 AM
Our fight is not even ideological, it is about the status of Palestine. To me, Palestine is dead. I want to cremate her and move on, since she's purely gore and rot!

Hitler insists we must mummify the corpse for the Zionist museum.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on July 15, 2025, 09:45:27 AM
So where do the Palestinians go to since they are still there?

Our fight is not even ideological, it is about the status of Palestine. To me, Palestine is dead. I want to cremate her and move on, since she's purely gore and rot!

Hitler insists we must mummify the corpse for the Zionist museum.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 15, 2025, 10:01:12 AM
ANYWHERE but the present Gaza and the West Bank.

So where do the Palestinians go to since they are still there?

Our fight is not even ideological, it is about the status of Palestine. To me, Palestine is dead. I want to cremate her and move on, since she's purely gore and rot!

Hitler insists we must mummify the corpse for the Zionist museum.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on July 15, 2025, 12:16:44 PM
Or are you suggesting take them to heaven?

Anyway, Palestinians are going nowhere. They will be in Gaza and West Jordan land in the next 100 years where they have always been in the last 1000 years and more.

ANYWHERE but the present Gaza and the West Bank.

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2025, 07:58:53 PM
The US would rather pay people to destroy food than let independent organizations deliver food to GAZA. The fear of children living longer n palestine is a threat to Trump and Netanyahu goal of extinguishing the state of palestine for good! The genocide-Jow crowd are still MIA
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The Trump administration has ordered 500 metric tons of emergency food aid—enough to feed 1.5 million malnourished children for a week—to be incinerated tomorrow rather than be distributed as part of its ongoing purge of USAID. The high-energy biscuits, intended for children under five living in war and disaster zones, are currently being stored in a warehouse in Dubai and were meant to be shipped out this year, but will instead go to waste due to cuts by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) effectively halting nearly all forms of foreign aid. Current and former aid workers, speaking anonymously for fear of retaliation, told The Atlantic that the sheer scale of waste is unprecedented. Despite repeated assurances from the administration not to eliminate food aid, U.S. warehouses around the world currently house 60,000 tons of food, including peas and cereal originally bound for famine-stricken Sudan, which the administration is now unable to deliver even if it wanted to after gutting USAID and firing logistical experts. According to The Atlantic, the amount of food set to be incinerated tomorrow would be enough to feed every single child currently starving in Gaza
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 25, 2025, 04:32:58 AM
Some little hope

France to recognise Palestinian state at UN general assembly, Macron says
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/24/france-to-recognise-palestinian-state-at-un-general-assembly-macron-says

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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 25, 2025, 05:28:11 AM
Benzion Mileikovsky throws a fit

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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 25, 2025, 05:03:39 PM
Israeli ministers ridicule Macron for ‘rewarding terror’ by recognizing Palestinian state
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministers-ridicule-macron-for-plan-to-recognize-palestinian-state-instead-of-israel/


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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 27, 2025, 04:20:15 AM
There seems to be a strange turn in MSM on Gaza reporting. Suddenly CNN and BBC are telling the truth after years of covering for Israel.

Feels surreal. Can't help but feel these fuckers (western media and leaders) have something sinister up their sleeves.

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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 27, 2025, 04:30:05 AM
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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 30, 2025, 08:24:12 PM
UK will recognise Palestinian state in September, says PM
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 30, 2025, 08:39:20 PM
Netanyahu throws a feat

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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on July 31, 2025, 09:30:01 AM
Canada to recognise Palestine in September
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 08, 2025, 02:56:57 PM
Israel is left with US


Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on August 08, 2025, 03:56:45 PM
As soon as Low IQ Trump is out, the democrats, like their European counterparts, will resume a two-state solution and full recognition of GAZA. These 2-3 years left of Trump will be detrimental, though, because he has vowed to completely support Israel destroying Gaza beyond future recognition. Poisoning of water and food and systematic elimination of citizens through various means will be in top gear the next 2 years.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 08, 2025, 11:05:59 PM
As soon as Low IQ Trump is out, the democrats, like their European counterparts, will resume a two-state solution and full recognition of GAZA. These 2-3 years left of Trump will be detrimental, though, because he has vowed to completely support Israel destroying Gaza beyond future recognition. Poisoning of water and food and systematic elimination of citizens through various means will be in top gear the next 2 years.

LIAR.
You really do disappoint with your stiff-necked ideological blinkers. Congress votes almost unanimously to support the apartheid state. Unless you mean Bernie Sanders will be president you really are dellusional.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 08, 2025, 11:07:07 PM
Here is a MAGA Republican that is actually doing way better than Genocide Joe, Kamala Harris and 90% of the Democrats.

https://publish.twitter.com/?url=#
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 08, 2025, 11:25:47 PM
Breath of fresh air here


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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on August 08, 2025, 11:51:02 PM
You are peddling misinformation as always. Trump and Netanyahu are fully committed to eliminating palestineans in the short term and long term. Democrats are working with partners and even urging Trump to recognize palestine. Trump through other channels is urging Israel to speed up takeover by any means necessary!
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United States Vice President JD Vance says his country may disagree with the United Kingdom about how to address the crisis in Gaza, but they share a common goal in resolving it.

Vance made the comments on Friday as he met British Foreign Secretary David Lammy in southern England. Last week, the UK declared its intention to recognise a Palestinian state along with France and Canada, in a bid to put pressure on Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

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WASHINGTON (TNND) — More than a dozen House Democrats have signed a letter calling on the Trump administration to recognize a Palestinian state as the humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues to worsen.

The lawmakers addressed President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio in the letter, according to The Washington Post, writing that such recognition is necessary to fulfill the "legitimate national rights" of Palestinians and "ensure the state of Israel's survival."

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House Democrats Renew Effort Calling for Palestinian Statehood
More than a dozen progressive lawmakers had signed onto a draft letter, but a lack of Republican support meant it was unlikely to affect policy decisions by the Trump administration.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would ‘take control of all Gaza,’ in a television interview, adding that Israel did not want to oversee governing responsibilities and would hand them over to an unspecified third party.
The number of Palestinians who have starved to death due to Israel’s brutal siege on Gaza rose to 197 people, including 96 children. The WHO says that about 12,000 children in Gaza under the age of five were acutely malnourished at the end of July, the highest number on record.
The Lebanese government approved a US-backed proposal to disarm the paramilitary group Hezbollah by the end of the year. Hezbollah officials said it would not disarm before Israeli forces, still occupying Lebanese territory in defiance of a truce agreement, left the country.
The rights watchdog Human Rights Watch released a report stating that Israel has carried out hundreds of attacks on schools sheltering displaced people in Gaza since the beginning of the war, including “unlawfully indiscriminate” strikes with US-provided munitions.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 11, 2025, 01:05:48 PM
'Australia to recognize State of Palestine - PM Albanese
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 11, 2025, 01:14:37 PM
You are peddling misinformation as always. Trump and Netanyahu are fully committed to eliminating palestineans in the short term and long term. Democrats are working with partners and even urging Trump to recognize palestine. Trump through other channels is urging Israel to speed up takeover by any means necessary!
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United States Vice President JD Vance says his country may disagree with the United Kingdom about how to address the crisis in Gaza, but they share a common goal in resolving it.

Vance made the comments on Friday as he met British Foreign Secretary David Lammy in southern England. Last week, the UK declared its intention to recognise a Palestinian state along with France and Canada, in a bid to put pressure on Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

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WASHINGTON (TNND) — More than a dozen House Democrats have signed a letter calling on the Trump administration to recognize a Palestinian state as the humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues to worsen.

The lawmakers addressed President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio in the letter, according to The Washington Post, writing that such recognition is necessary to fulfill the "legitimate national rights" of Palestinians and "ensure the state of Israel's survival."

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House Democrats Renew Effort Calling for Palestinian Statehood
More than a dozen progressive lawmakers had signed onto a draft letter, but a lack of Republican support meant it was unlikely to affect policy decisions by the Trump administration.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would ‘take control of all Gaza,’ in a television interview, adding that Israel did not want to oversee governing responsibilities and would hand them over to an unspecified third party.
The number of Palestinians who have starved to death due to Israel’s brutal siege on Gaza rose to 197 people, including 96 children. The WHO says that about 12,000 children in Gaza under the age of five were acutely malnourished at the end of July, the highest number on record.
The Lebanese government approved a US-backed proposal to disarm the paramilitary group Hezbollah by the end of the year. Hezbollah officials said it would not disarm before Israeli forces, still occupying Lebanese territory in defiance of a truce agreement, left the country.
The rights watchdog Human Rights Watch released a report stating that Israel has carried out hundreds of attacks on schools sheltering displaced people in Gaza since the beginning of the war, including “unlawfully indiscriminate” strikes with US-provided munitions.

All that literature just to hang your boots on good-for-nothing Democrats.
Title: Re: Companies complicit in Israel's genocide in Gaza and the West Bank
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 12, 2025, 05:04:01 PM
UN report lists companies complicit in Israel’s ‘genocide’: Who are they?
1 Jul 2025

UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese has issued a report naming several US giants among companies aiding Israel’s occupation and war on Gaza. Companies from other countries – from China to Mexico – are also named.

(https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/INTERACTIVE-UN-ISRAEL-COMPANIES-1-1751388779.png?w=770&resize=770%2C962&quality=80)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/1/un-report-lists-companies-complicit-in-israels-genocide-who-are-they
Title: Re: Companies complicit in Israel's genocide in Gaza and the West Bank
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 12, 2025, 09:20:19 PM
No wars, no nonsense here 💪💪💪

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Title: Re: Companies complicit in Israel's genocide in Gaza and the West Bank
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 16, 2025, 06:26:42 PM
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Title: Re: Companies complicit in Israel's genocide in Gaza and the West Bank
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 16, 2025, 06:37:51 PM
If Kamala the Baby Killer, Genocide Joe, Chuck Schumer, Obama or Hakeem Jeffries - any of the good-for-nothing Democrats - dared to have such clarity they would immediately go into cardiac arrest. Ordered by God Himself.


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Title: Re: Nairobi bikers rally against Gaza genocide
Post by: Modesty Blaise on August 25, 2025, 12:25:02 AM
No mention of this in tone-deaf Kenyan media

Title: Re: Nairobi bikers rally against Gaza genocide
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 08, 2025, 06:18:11 PM
Banksy takes a swipe at UK courts

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Banksy posted this picture on Monday of his new artwork on the wall of the Royal Courts of Justice. It was covered up soon after. Photograph: Banksy/PA Wire

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/sep/08/court-staff-cover-up-banksy-image-of-judge-beating-a-protester
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 19, 2025, 11:17:01 AM
Strange story of parallels

As Israel struck Qatar, South Africans saw echo of last decade of apartheid
By Gershwin Wanneburg Published On 17 Sep 2025

In the 70s and 80s, South Africa bombed or raided Zambia, Angola, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Mozambique. Israel has attacked eight nations this year.


(https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/AFP__20220328__326E7KP__v1__HighRes__NamibiaAngolaSouthAfricaWarSouthAfricanBorderWa-1758008695.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80)
Apartheid South African military forces cross the border between Namibia and Angola under a banner saying 'Welcome Winners', on August 30, 1988 [File: Walter Dhladhla/AFP]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/17/as-israel-struck-qatar-south-africans-saw-echo-of-last-decade-of-apartheid
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 23, 2025, 01:33:20 AM
Israel in tight corner as Netanyahu threaten everyone for recognizing Palestine state.


Netanyahu may struggle to find response that matches rhetoric on Palestine recognition
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/22/allies-recognition-of-palestine-angers-netanyahu-but-his-options-for-response-are-limited

Israeli politicians react bitterly to international recognitions of Palestinian state
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/22/wave-of-recognitions-of-palestinian-state-criticised-by-israeli-politicians
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 23, 2025, 02:02:29 AM
It's literally 1985 for Apartheid South Africa

Israel said scrambling to prevent Tuesday vote on expelling country from European soccer
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-scrambling-to-prevent-tuesday-vote-on-expelling-country-from-european-soccer/

Italian roads, ports blocked as anti-Israel protesters try to bring country to ‘standstill’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/italian-roads-ports-blocked-as-anti-israel-protesters-try-to-bring-country-to-standstill/

Spanish PM urges full UN membership for Palestinian state
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/spanish-pm-urges-full-un-membership-for-palestinian-state/

I Escaped to a Greek Nudist Paradise, Only to Discover That Israelis Are Hated There, Too
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-09-18/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/i-escaped-to-a-greek-nudist-paradise-only-to-discover-that-israelis-are-hated-there-too/00000199-5e2d-de72-a7fd-7eef22b30000

Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 29, 2025, 09:58:44 PM
Trump is speaking on NPR now and he is oozing the most insane things EVER. I wish Rashid Tlaib and Michigan anti-Biden arabs can hear it and comment about it. They used to Hijack Biden and Kamala press conference with their stupid stunts of protests. Where are they now? lol. It seems they are scared  to continue with their stupid protest stunts with Trump.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 29, 2025, 11:40:14 PM
I believe Trump is senile. The spouts are entirely irrational. Just yesterday morning he said he will not let Netanyahu annex the West Bank - but I doubt he even recalls he had shrimps for breakfast.

Last week he gave a bizzare MAGA speech at the UN.

Now he is back to the Gaza Riviera. :)

About Genocide Joe, Kamala the Baby Killer and good-for-nothing Democrats - all Muslims did was withhold their vote which must now be earned. They did not crack the entire purple wall that's all Trump. Useless Kamala has fat chance but future contenders must address the elephant kinaga ubaga. No more free ride.

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Title: Re: TRUMP'S GAZA PEACE PLAN
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 30, 2025, 10:36:06 AM

1. Gaza will be a deradicalized terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.

2. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza, who have suffered more than enough.

3. If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.

4. Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned.

5. Once all hostages are released, Israel will release 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1700 Gazans who were detained after October 7th 2023, including all women and children detained in that context. For every Israeli hostage whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gazans.

6. Once all hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and to decommission their weapons will be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza will be provided safe passage to receiving countries.

7. Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025, agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure (water, electricity, sewage), rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads.

8. Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza Strip will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United Nations and its agencies, and the Red Crescent, in addition to other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement.

9. Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the “Board of Peace,” which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump’s peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.

10. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.

11. A special economic zone will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries.

12. No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We will encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza.

13. Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in any form. All military, terror, and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, will be destroyed and not rebuilt. There will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use through an agreed process of decommissioning, and supported by an internationally funded buy back and reintegration program all verified by the independent monitors. New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and to peaceful coexistence with their neighbors.

14. A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas, and the factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or its people.

15. The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field. This force will be the long-term internal security solution. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas, along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. It is critical to prevent munitions from entering Gaza and to facilitate the rapid and secure flow of goods to rebuild and revitalize Gaza. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by the parties.

16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the Unites States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza, save for a security perimeter presence that will remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent terror threat.

17. In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF.

18. An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.

19. While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

20. The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.
Title: Re: TRUMP'S GAZA PEACE PLAN
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 30, 2025, 11:24:27 AM

Main grind is
-quid pro quo release of hostages and prisoners, aid to flow in, bla bla
-civilian Palestinian committee to run Gaza under Trump-Tony Blair "Board of Peace" to foresee reconstruction
-ISF (internal stabilization force) by Arab & international partners to replace IDF as it withdraws
-PA to take over "in due course" conditional on reforms
-Hamas to be expelled

Vagueness
-if PA is part of the "civilian Palestinian committee" to run Gaza
-exact membership of the Trump-Tony Blair "Board of Peace" assumed to include UAE, Qatar, Egypt, etc
-when exactly would the PA take over? The "reforms" are assumed to be long-overdue elections.
Title: Re: TRUMP'S GAZA PEACE PLAN
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 30, 2025, 11:39:23 AM
WINNERS
PA led by Abbas is now recognized by all but US, Germany, Italy in the West. Primed to take over Gaza. Hamas is politically isolated which is very good for PA.

LOSERS
Israel especially Netanyahu. They have their feet to the fire by increasing sanctions and isolation. This deal I suspect is only a tack to deflect pressure and regroup. The deal is conspicuously blank on the West Bank which his fascist partners want to annex.

NEUTRAL
Hamas achieves its political objective to make Israel a pariah. The jury is out what happens to the deal and the two-state conundrum.
Title: Re: TRUMP'S GAZA PEACE PLAN
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 30, 2025, 06:15:09 PM
Anything spearheaded by Trump and Netanyahu is strategically meant to benefit Israel in the medium and long-term. This war plan seems meant to eliminate West Bank/Ramalla, now that GAZA is completely gone. GAZA and Palestine should never agree to any proposal or anything from Trump or Netanyahu. It is better to die than to surrender to such a deal!
Title: Re: TRUMP'S GAZA PEACE PLAN
Post by: Modesty Blaise on September 30, 2025, 08:22:57 PM
Anything spearheaded by Trump and Netanyahu is strategically meant to benefit Israel in the medium and long-term. This war plan seems meant to eliminate West Bank/Ramalla, now that GAZA is completely gone. GAZA and Palestine should never agree to any proposal or anything from Trump or Netanyahu. It is better to die than to surrender to such a deal!

The plan is not about peace or starving children it's a deflection of international pressure on Israel from the EU and G7. Netanyahu needs to stop bombing without looking like he is scared of sanctions and isolation. If they could they could throw in ICC amnesty as a sweetener they would. I think he is a big loser because 1) his fascist partners already threaten to tank the deal and 2) sanctions still loom over planned West Bank annexation.

I expect Hamas to demand guarantees that the ISF (International Stabilization Force) will replace the IDF in Gaza on the ground. Most likely Hamas will seek to hold onto the hostages until Israel meets its obligations... therein lies the rub.

I give the plan a 20% chance of success at this point.

West Bank is not part of this Gaza plan. The winner is the PA which will likely replace Hamas in Gaza as part of the "Palestinian civillian committee".

QATAR is also a big winner in this plan. https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-big-winner-of-trumps-plan-to-end-the-war-in-gaza-is-qatar/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 02, 2025, 11:16:50 PM
2 Jews killed, 4 injured outside Manchester synagogue
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/manchester-synagogue-stabbing-car-ramming-synagogue-police-rcna235117


Interesting to read the comments at Netanyahu's tweets

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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 09, 2025, 11:33:33 AM
Gaza ceasefire begins.. Dotard is tripping on himself to hog the credit.

I think Israel has actually lost  bad. Worst they seem to have woken up the antisemite ghosts of yore


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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 10, 2025, 08:37:03 AM
 :)

Norway braces for Trump’s reaction if he does not win Nobel peace prize
US president may impose tariffs, demand higher Nato contributions or even declare Norway an enemy, analyst says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/09/norway-braces-for-trumps-reaction-if-he-does-not-win-nobel-peace-prize
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 11, 2025, 09:37:17 PM
You have to be covid- AIPAC-free now to run


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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 12:23:16 PM
Trump in Israel. Big roll of leaders to meet for peace summit in Egypt.
Netanyahu is invited but unhappy to shake hands with PA Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel continue to be the loser. Most of the leaders but US and Germany back Palestinian state.

In call apparently brokered by Trump, Netanyahu accepts invite from Sissi to join today’s summit in Egypt
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-call-apparently-brokered-by-trump-netanyahu-accepts-invite-from-sissi-to-join-todays-summit-in-egypt/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 12:25:05 PM
Zionists continue to off themselves

Survivor of 7 October Nova festival attack in Israel found dead
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/12/roei-shalev-survivor-of-7-october-nova-festival-attack-in-israel-found-dead
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 02:02:48 PM
Trump addressing Knesset. Seem like a orgy to praise Trump as historic peacemaker. You wouldn't know the peace deal was literally shoved down their throats.
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 02:06:14 PM
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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Kadudu on October 13, 2025, 04:29:48 PM
Egypt should arrest the fugitive and deliver him to the ICC. Many people in Israel will also be grateful.

Trump in Israel. Big roll of leaders to meet for peace summit in Egypt.
Netanyahu is invited but unhappy to shake hands with PA Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel continue to be the loser. Most of the leaders but US and Germany back Palestinian state.

In call apparently brokered by Trump, Netanyahu accepts invite from Sissi to join today’s summit in Egypt
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-call-apparently-brokered-by-trump-netanyahu-accepts-invite-from-sissi-to-join-todays-summit-in-egypt/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 06:03:17 PM
Bibi chickened out,

Trump plan to invite Netanyahu to Gaza summit aborted after Erdoğan warning
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/13/trump-invite-netanyahu-gaza-summit-aborted-erdogan-warning

Egypt should arrest the fugitive and deliver him to the ICC. Many people in Israel will also be grateful.

Trump in Israel. Big roll of leaders to meet for peace summit in Egypt.
Netanyahu is invited but unhappy to shake hands with PA Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel continue to be the loser. Most of the leaders but US and Germany back Palestinian state.

In call apparently brokered by Trump, Netanyahu accepts invite from Sissi to join today’s summit in Egypt
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-call-apparently-brokered-by-trump-netanyahu-accepts-invite-from-sissi-to-join-todays-summit-in-egypt/
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 13, 2025, 06:08:14 PM
It's a UN meeting. Only Bibi and Hamas are MIA. And Ruto :)


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Who is going to the Gaza ‘peace summit’?
US President Donald Trump
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi
Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

Also attending:
French President: Emmanuel Macron
Turkish President: Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
UK’s prime minister: Keir Starmer
Spanish prime minister: Pedro Sánchez
Italian prime minister: Giorgia Meloni
European council president: Antonio Costa
UN secretary-general: António Guterres
Arab League secretary-general: Ahmed Aboul Gheit
Jordan’s King Abdullah II
Kuwait’s prime minister: Ahmad Al Abdullah Al Sabah
Bahrain’s King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa
Indonesia’s President: Prabowo Subianto
Azerbaijan’s President: Ilham Aliyev
German Chancellor: Friedrich Merz
Greek prime minister: Kyriakos Mitsotakis
Armenian prime minister: Nikol Pashinyan
Hungary’s prime minister: Viktor Orbán
Pakistan’s prime minister: Shehbaz Sharif
Canada’s prime minister: Mark Carney
Norway’s prime minister: Jonas Gahr Store
Iraq’s prime minister: Mohammed Shia al-Sudani

Who is not going to the summit?
Israeli officials
Representatives from Hamas
Iranian officials

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/13/donald-trump-egypt-peace-summit-abdel-fattah-al-sisi
Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 16, 2025, 10:21:53 AM
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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 17, 2025, 02:42:06 PM
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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 18, 2025, 07:04:23 PM
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Title: Re: GAZA Crisis is EGYPT once-in-a-millenium OPPORTUNITY
Post by: Modesty Blaise on October 20, 2025, 10:24:59 PM