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Title: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 14, 2023, 10:47:14 AM
https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/machakos/demolition-structures-portland-property-begins-ruto-green-light-4400276

They are saying they will give that land to epz,EPZ are private investors who steal money from goverment,get licenses for tax free business to sell they products in dollars.So the people running gov are the private investors.

after that destruction as kimunya did in embakasi 2011,families will be broken and people will die of stroke & pressure

the 4000 acres hosts many households
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 14, 2023, 10:59:27 AM
Kenya needs the EPZ . They shaped up Kibakis economic recovery plan. Kenya needs foreign income . The dollars coming in will help with Macroceconomics
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: patel on October 14, 2023, 03:06:05 PM
Land grabbing back in vogue. Ngong forest hived off, Ololua forest long stone wall erected, kibiku forest gone.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: audacityofhope on October 14, 2023, 04:46:13 PM
Land grabbing back in vogue. Ngong forest hived off, Ololua forest long stone wall erected, kibiku forest gone.
This is the govt you spared no effort in propagating. You don't seem to be sure of your "shareholders" status lately or could it be that your account been hacked Bwana Moderator?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 14, 2023, 10:47:32 PM
https://x.com/itskipronoh/status/1713275392562246077?s=20

Its land grabbing.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: patel on October 15, 2023, 04:04:05 AM
I campaigned for them, donated my resources and voted for them.  However, when things go wrong am the first one to point out and say I don't think this is the right way. A good leader always listen to the people because voice of the people is God's voice. At the same time always remember there are people in kings court that don't mean we'll. They thrive on misadvising the king. The pundits of this world. Those are the ones we must guard against.
Land grabbing back in vogue. Ngong forest hived off, Ololua forest long stone wall erected, kibiku forest gone.
This is the govt you spared no effort in propagating. You don't seem to be sure of your "shareholders" status lately or could it be that your account been hacked Bwana Moderator?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 15, 2023, 06:31:41 AM
It couldn't be done in a humane way??
That is a lot of loss.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 15, 2023, 06:33:47 AM
We voted based on the promises , However Ruto has done a 360 degrees on many things.
Uhuru did the same and we had to make him pay in 2022 . If Ruto doesnt change course come 2027 will express our views and feelings , regardless of the Pundits threats of this world. I can tell you like I told you before during Uhurus error , as we speak Ruto is not making it back in 2027.

I campaigned for them, donated my resources and voted for them.  However, when things go wrong am the first one to point out and say I don't think this is the right way. A good leader always listen to the people because voice of the people is God's voice. At the same time always remember there are people in kings court that don't mean we'll. They thrive on misadvising the king. The pundits of this world. Those are the ones we must guard against.
Land grabbing back in vogue. Ngong forest hived off, Ololua forest long stone wall erected, kibiku forest gone.
This is the govt you spared no effort in propagating. You don't seem to be sure of your "shareholders" status lately or could it be that your account been hacked Bwana Moderator?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 07:19:03 AM
Kenya needs the EPZ . They shaped up Kibakis economic recovery plan. Kenya needs foreign income . The dollars coming in will help with Macroceconomics

You are very stupid.
EPZ are tax evasion schemes,They don't pay the goverment tax on anything while they pay low salaries to overworked labourers.

This is pure land grabbing,someone is using the government to grab land in the name of epz and set up factories on free land and not to pay taxation.

Kenya should focus on local market not exports.If you want dollars,the largest imports are food,cooking oil,wheat,rice,sugar which cost about 300BN +,GOK needs to support agribusiness to stop food import through largescale plantations anf reduce the pressure on thr shilling gradually.

Anyway,EPZ.A mzungu or mhindi who doesnt pay tax.He is a nominee of a senior politician while kenyans smes and workers are overtaxed.

The same people who brokering cooking oil and fuel which amount to 600BN imports and overpricing them hence creating the pressure on the shilling are the same shouting more exports for strong dollar through tax evading epz.

How stupid.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 07:22:28 AM
It couldn't be done in a humane way??
That is a lot of loss.

Or even compensated like the Mau forest invaders who were given 500K each while they even hadnt invested millions building homes.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 15, 2023, 10:22:06 AM
15,000 acres of Portland land was grabbed and is being recovered. The land grabbers and Mungiki hived it off. The bankrupt Portland badly need the land to sell to GoK for affordable housing unit.

The victims of land grabbing should seek justices from the land grabbers.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 10:46:55 AM
15,000 acres of Portland land was grabbed and is being recovered. The land grabbers and Mungiki hived it off. The bankrupt Portland badly need the land to sell to GoK for affordable housing unit.

The victims of land grabbing should seek justices from the land grabbers.

What about Weston Hotel?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 15, 2023, 11:35:02 AM
The court will decide the fate of the hotel. Ruto can build 100 weston now.
What about Weston Hotel?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 12:47:55 PM
https://x.com/paulinenjoroge/status/1713488595481219522?s=20

Gikuyu,Uhuru had warned you.Sasa jionee.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 12:54:03 PM
https://x.com/ConradKulo/status/1713434925909573965?s=20
governor cries.3 schools demolished,their homes demolished.they dont have a school to attend or home to go to.when all this was happening,ruto had lied to wavinya that no such actions will take place hours ago.

ruto is an evil man,if i saw him near me,id start running away calling jesus.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 15, 2023, 01:24:28 PM
Wavinya and family are ones who have been selling those land claiming it their family land.
https://x.com/ConradKulo/status/1713434925909573965?s=20
governor cries.3 schools demolished,their homes demolished.they dont have a school to attend or home to go to.when all this was happening,ruto had lied to wavinya that no such actions will take place hours ago.

ruto is an evil man,if i saw him near me,id start running away calling jesus.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
Wavinya and family are ones who have been selling those land claiming it their family land.
https://x.com/ConradKulo/status/1713434925909573965?s=20
governor cries.3 schools demolished,their homes demolished.they dont have a school to attend or home to go to.when all this was happening,ruto had lied to wavinya that no such actions will take place hours ago.

ruto is an evil man,if i saw him near me,id start running away calling jesus.

Post evidence.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 15, 2023, 05:04:16 PM
I live on Rutos wealth vicariously, the stupidity of Kenyans is mind boggling. Ruto is a thief, a rudderless one term presidency but kales here can have orgasms about his wealth. Why not give people notices and time to move, is Portland just realizing that this land was stolen? Where were they when it was stolen? Why are there people in Kibera and other slums living on railway land?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 15, 2023, 05:25:38 PM
listen to him.pure evil.liar.

https://x.com/paulinenjoroge/status/1713539347843318016?s=20
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 15, 2023, 09:17:01 PM
My reasoning too. Give pple a week to move instead of destroying everything they own. Now they are homeless having been conned by the same pple in govt who knew that the land was illegally sold. Not even a spoon. Documents destroyed.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 15, 2023, 10:03:43 PM
I heard that people were warned for 4, 2 months, 2 weeks, and 2 days to move for illegal settlement, but they ignored.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 15, 2023, 10:03:58 PM
Watu wameanza kulia, we told you but now I am starting to sympathize. I hope these are the lessons that will move the Kenya forward to where most of us aspire it to be. In 2027, anyone talking about bottom up should be chased out of the stadium na mawe..kambas, Luos, mt Kenya  have to say no to these nonsense. Raila has hinted to tosharing Kalonzo, thats the right direction.. https://x.com/itskipronoh/status/1713275392562246077?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 15, 2023, 10:24:22 PM
Watu wameanza kulia, we told you but now I am starting to sympathize. I hope these are the lessons that will move the Kenya forward to where most of us aspire it to be. In 2027, anyone talking about bottom up should be chased out of the stadium na mawe..kambas, Luos, mt Kenya  have to say no to these nonsense. Raila has hinted to tosharing Kalonzo, thats the right direction.. https://x.com/itskipronoh/status/1713275392562246077?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA
Raila is already on Kenya Kwanza if you didn't know. Kalonzo too likely by 2026. Based on the little intelligence I have, Raila, Uhuru, and Azimio cabal may throw weight behind Ruto in 2027. Ruto/Gachagua are simply unbeatable because they are destroying cartels left, right, and center and that is why Uhuru/Raila caved. Land grabbers are on the run all over Kenya!
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 15, 2023, 10:38:07 PM
Watu wameanza kulia, we told you but now I am starting to sympathize. I hope these are the lessons that will move the Kenya forward to where most of us aspire it to be. In 2027, anyone talking about bottom up should be chased out of the stadium na mawe..kambas, Luos, mt Kenya  have to say no to these nonsense. Raila has hinted to tosharing Kalonzo, thats the right direction.. https://x.com/itskipronoh/status/1713275392562246077?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA

I now understand NOAH's dillema. Pple refuse to accept the truth. until the day of. Children suffer forever. Suicide rates up. CORRUPTION kills.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 15, 2023, 11:10:25 PM
Watu wameanza kulia, we told you but now I am starting to sympathize. I hope these are the lessons that will move the Kenya forward to where most of us aspire it to be. In 2027, anyone talking about bottom up should be chased out of the stadium na mawe..kambas, Luos, mt Kenya  have to say no to these nonsense. Raila has hinted to tosharing Kalonzo, thats the right direction.. https://x.com/itskipronoh/status/1713275392562246077?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA

I now understand NOAH's dillema. Pple refuse to accept the truth. until the day of. Children suffer forever. Suicide rates up. CORRUPTION kills.
For this one I refuse your Q-annoying theories not unless you have some evidence. I am sure people will eat Rutos money because he thrives on bribery, division and betrayal. If you are being offered billions of shillings, only a fool would refuse it. Take the money and use it when time comes. Sorry, this was for RVHH.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 16, 2023, 05:10:30 AM
Makua the mp, Wavinya, and crooks know what they did.
https://x.com/mwelun1/status/1713537188430754096?s=20
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Kadudu on October 16, 2023, 09:49:11 AM
How come we are never told who sold such land to the naive buyers? Soemone must have cashed in big. It is stated the then governor of Machakos Mutua wrote to the DCI asking the agency to investigate the sale of the land. No action was taken by DCI and the sales went on.
Kenya sucks sometimes. Why let people buy illegal land when this can be avoiede just by DCI giving out a warning to potential buyers?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 16, 2023, 10:10:30 AM
Dci are biggest enablers of land grabbing.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 16, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
1) Ruto changed the law few days ago bypasses parliamentary approval for sale of state corporations.

2 ) One of the state corporations to be sold is East Africa portland which owns the said land.

3 ) Weeks ago,GOK said that they found a private investor who will buy 30 % of EA portland.The majority shareholder in EA Portland is GOK & NSSF which own over 50%

4) Lafarge was told to sell some of their shareholding to the said strategic investor.

5) The Strategic investor is a Ghost Company owned by senior UDA officials & Criminal gangs.

6) Now that they have control of EA portland shareholding,Board room decisions  & GOK,They have embarked on recovering the allegedly stolen land through evictions.

 7)  After the completion of the evictions,They are going to sell the EA portland land through EPZ & Affordable housing schemes and steal billions of shillings.Private companies will be given free land to build factories  & build real estate in the name of affordable housing.

UDA is a criminal enteprise.Recover EA Portland land through Court,Then sell or give it the ghost private enterprises.Anybody who still supports UDA is a mad person

Next State corporation loading...Maybe Ports,Pipeline land.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 16, 2023, 11:45:32 AM
Funny thing about all this, Ruto told them he will bomoa those houses and not to worry he will build  them new ones in housing fund  :D
But Kambas are boiling with anger snd pundit want us to believe Ruto will inherit azimio
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 16, 2023, 12:17:12 PM
Kamba will provide token opposition going forward.
Funny thing about all this, Ruto told them he will bomoa those houses and not to worry he will build  them new ones in housing fund  :D
But Kambas are boiling with anger snd pundit want us to believe Ruto will inherit azimio
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: KenyanPlato on October 16, 2023, 01:26:29 PM
My reasoning too. Give pple a week to move instead of destroying everything they own. Now they are homeless having been conned by the same pple in govt who knew that the land was illegally sold. Not even a spoon. Documents destroyed.
They been through courts. They have delayed this demolitions for years. It is just that these land cases take decades if not years. My grandfather succession challenge was in courts for 3 decades. Appeals after appeals and injuctions after the other..all litigants are dead now and the final judgment by nyeri land tribunal statute of limitations expired. Leaving the winner of case without compensation. This how the land cases go. So once you get a judgment you rush with a bulldozer and take the land back
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Pundit on October 16, 2023, 02:06:26 PM
I see
My reasoning too. Give pple a week to move instead of destroying everything they own. Now they are homeless having been conned by the same pple in govt who knew that the land was illegally sold. Not even a spoon. Documents destroyed.
They been through courts. They have delayed this demolitions for years. It is just that these land cases take decades if not years. My grandfather succession challenge was in courts for 3 decades. Appeals after appeals and injuctions after the other..all litigants are dead now and the final judgment by nyeri land tribunal statute of limitations expired. Leaving the winner of case without compensation. This how the land cases go. So once you get a judgment you rush with a bulldozer and take the land back
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 16, 2023, 02:09:37 PM
My reasoning too. Give pple a week to move instead of destroying everything they own. Now they are homeless having been conned by the same pple in govt who knew that the land was illegally sold. Not even a spoon. Documents destroyed.
They been through courts. They have delayed this demolitions for years. It is just that these land cases take decades if not years. My grandfather succession challenge was in courts for 3 decades. Appeals after appeals and injuctions after the other..all litigants are dead now and the final judgment by nyeri land tribunal statute of limitations expired. Leaving the winner of case without compensation. This how the land cases go. So once you get a judgment you rush with a bulldozer and take the land back
Spot on, exactly what happens , I can speak from experience.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 16, 2023, 02:09:55 PM
Slow court process hurt people, but when court issues eviction, President, or anyone cannot stop it. It is sad that gullible people were still getting, conned, others continuing with construction even after numerous warnings.
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Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 16, 2023, 03:27:49 PM
My reasoning too. Give pple a week to move instead of destroying everything they own. Now they are homeless having been conned by the same pple in govt who knew that the land was illegally sold. Not even a spoon. Documents destroyed.
They been through courts. They have delayed this demolitions for years. It is just that these land cases take decades if not years. My grandfather succession challenge was in courts for 3 decades. Appeals after appeals and injuctions after the other..all litigants are dead now and the final judgment by nyeri land tribunal statute of limitations expired. Leaving the winner of case without compensation. This how the land cases go. So once you get a judgment you rush with a bulldozer and take the land back

Oh my. So this is an ancient case that buyers ignored. All this warnings were ignored until the bulldozer showed up and now they are crying???
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 16, 2023, 03:40:33 PM
Don't react to any news without much thought. The culprits/grabbers who sold land are fighting in courts, but may take years to find out. Corrupt courts may acquit them after paying heavily as always, but I think If we had independent media to expose these cartels working politicians, things would be much better. I think area MP, Wavinya, and mentioned guy (Julius Mutua) are on the list. 
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Githunguri on October 17, 2023, 09:42:38 AM
https://x.com/paulinenjoroge/status/1714164683203104832?s=20

Land for sale.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: gout on October 17, 2023, 06:31:44 PM
Very senseless. Infuriating.

Hasoras need to understand the perpetrators will get away and use the monies to do more evil on others, till the day they identify and place a personal cost on these perpetrators.

Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: sema on October 17, 2023, 06:59:45 PM
It seems like the problem lies with the judiciary taking  too long with these cases; maybe they need a specific land court that can fast track these cases and ahmednasir has been complaining about how totally corrupt the judiciary has become lately.

In all honesty, in order for ruto to fix the cesspool of corruption in kenya, he's going to have to do like china. People have to start GOING TO JAIL and ruto needs to tell the judges to get it together.  Without punishment, this nonsense will continue.

The corrupt land brokers need to be in prison but isn't they a better way to do this without destroying people's homes and livelihoods?
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: gout on October 17, 2023, 07:46:49 PM
Half the thugs are ones who should protect hasoras, for now they are still binging on our taxes and control fellow current officers in kawaida crminal network tradition.

Seems they have left out Wavinya as she is now a big fish.

Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 17, 2023, 09:17:42 PM
Those people will spend all their money in courts, but in the end mambo ni matatu. They will only get reprieve after Kenya Kwanza is gone.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: gout on October 18, 2023, 04:34:52 PM
The people collecting evidence are their friends, colleagues and relatives. By the time the money and influence is over, there is barely any evidence in these cases.

https://ntvkenya.co.ke/news/court-acquits-suspects-in-sh791m-nys-case/
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Kadudu on October 18, 2023, 05:25:05 PM
 :D :D :D
The beuaty is, the money cannot be traced. Kenya is a true banana republic.
The main suspect KaSweetie was nowhere near the dock. She is busy meandering the valleys of Kirinyaga.

The people collecting evidence are their friends, colleagues and relatives. By the time the money and influence is over, there is barely any evidence in these cases.

https://ntvkenya.co.ke/news/court-acquits-suspects-in-sh791m-nys-case/
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 18, 2023, 07:15:29 PM
So these people had titles???
How did the govt issue titiles???
They definitely have a case.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/portland-cement-we-warned-them-and-gave-them-time-to-move/ar-AA1ipFIu?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=1cc970914aed4398be4b2bd27c675f80&ei=13
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: Georgesoros on October 18, 2023, 07:17:44 PM
It seems like the problem lies with the judiciary taking  too long with these cases; maybe they need a specific land court that can fast track these cases and ahmednasir has been complaining about how totally corrupt the judiciary has become lately.

In all honesty, in order for ruto to fix the cesspool of corruption in kenya, he's going to have to do like china. People have to start GOING TO JAIL and ruto needs to tell the judges to get it together.  Without punishment, this nonsense will continue.

The corrupt land brokers need to be in prison but isn't they a better way to do this without destroying people's homes and livelihoods?

This should not take more than 6mos. Courts are a problem.
Title: Re: UDAku destroys mavoko homes,Grabs 4000 acres
Post by: audacityofhope on October 20, 2023, 09:22:16 AM
In the Lord's prayer, we are taught to pray that God's will be done. But if you decide to structure your prayers in a different way, the Lord will still answer those prayers. This Bishop and the other bearded fellow prayed for Doyen to win and had those prayers answered.

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