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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on October 09, 2023, 08:08:32 AM

Title: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 09, 2023, 08:08:32 AM
Friends.

1) Security.
Ruto replaced NIS Kameru with Somali Haji,Omamo  (Uhuru) with Somali Duale,Kibicho with Omollo  (luo) Kibicho with Omollo  (KDF) Kinoti with Amin  (Somali) DCI,Luhya tool DPP,EACC Somali...As you can see,all investigative,prosecutorial and security powers are out of GEMA hands.These ministries or departments control over 250BN interms of operations and tenders,Gachagua didn 't get a share.

2) Parliament.
Parliamentary budget is normally 40BN.Muturi was replaced by wetangula,Kingi took over senate while Muturi has been given explicit orders that he should not make appointment in AG office without state house permission.That means GEMA has no powers in any legislative matters,appointments or tendersI havent checked parliamentary committes but your guess is as good as mine.

3 ) Nairobi County.
Nairobi collects hundreds of millions on a daily basis.Sakaja told Gachagua he will not be part and parcel of county appointments,revenues and tendering.The last time i checked two weeks ago,they wouldnt shake hands.

4) Energy,Infrastructure,education and health
Here we have machogu  (kisii) and kiptoo,Nakumicha  (wetangula) murkomen and Chirichir who are ruto men.These ministries receive more than 500BN budget.

As you can see,Mt Kenya is technically out.What made matters worse is the kicking out of kuria from trade where he was brokering cooking oil wheat and maize import business with gachagua while Alice was dumped in lands ministry where there is basically no money after thuita signed his resignation to save himself from trouble.

In real terms,Gachagua doesnt have money or lieutenats in GOK,He is deputy president on paper.Ruto will heavily fund Mt Kenya MPs like ndindi n ichungwa to destroy him.To make matters worse,Ruto may even fund MPs to impeach him.

Gachagua needs to think fast before Ruto destroys him because he doesnt have money,Mps,judiciary or security apparatus.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 09, 2023, 08:13:24 AM
Gachagua enemies are Ndindi Ichungwa KJ.On the other side,Raila  & Kalonzo are baying for his blood to impeach him.Ruto has him by the balls at the moment.I believe Ruto will want to deal with him before 2027.Get him impeached,Kesi kortini.

I forgot to mention the port leasing deals and Ruto investing billions in Luo luhya sugar industry,What has he invested in Mt Kenya?
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2023, 11:00:39 AM
Jaduong you are trying hard in conspiracy theory .
Facts are as following
1. Gachagua has no Command of Mt Kenya electorate.
2. Ruto is no longer the darling of Mt Kenya . Economy and tribalism is not doing good gor him.
3. There is going to be a referendum soon . Based on the referendum question it will be a wake up call to Ruto and his inner circle.

Your hate for GEMA is seen kilometers away . Just after 2022 elections you came out clear as a Luo and you said you were proud to be one , what really happened .
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2023, 11:24:18 AM
Ruto has balanced appointment; you're unhappy because you're not used to fairness.

Kenya iko imara sasa.

Few areas like Kikuyu dominance of central bank now 20yrs - my pal works there - and he was telling me it not good.

KRA should be getting sorted out.

Ultimately Gachagua need to embrace Kenya and nationalism - even if for lip service.

Ruto has appointed people mostly based on talent - Ndii run economy think tank with Njunguna and Thugge - all kikuyus but supremely qualified. In parliament Ndidi runs the budget with Kimani the Molo Mp.

Ichungwa has Duale position.

Prof Kindiki run interior with Dr Omollo - qualified. Another Luo is KDF head Gen Ogolla. Duale is qualified just like Somali DCI and NIS director plus AP director

Murkomen is Ps of infra - but has two PSes - a kikuyu and coastarian.

KRA has brilliant Bukusu luhyaman.

Very balanced.

Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2023, 11:28:09 AM
Ruto is past Mt kenya politics - he is building a international image - is not interested in tribal nonsense. Kenyans will elect him with landslide in 2027 as he will be africa top leader by then.

Mt kenya has a choice - buy time - bide time - wait for Ruto to finish or Sakaja will add 10 more - anything else will lead to 41-1 situation as Ruto will simply ostracize mt Kenya. The only threat Mt kenya can use is Raila whom they hate the most.

In short - play nice - get used to fair kenya - nurture real talents - otherwise Sakaja Kosgei ako pale doing mark time

Jaduong you are trying hard in conspiracy theory .
Facts are as following
1. Gachagua has no Command of Mt Kenya electorate.
2. Ruto is no longer the darling of Mt Kenya . Economy and tribalism is not doing good gor him.
3. There is going to be a referendum soon . Based on the referendum question it will be a wake up call to Ruto and his inner circle.

Your hate for GEMA is seen kilometers away . Just after 2022 elections you came out clear as a Luo and you said you were proud to be one , what really happened .
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 09, 2023, 11:31:39 AM
https://x.com/StateHouseKenya/status/1711296277420421152?s=20

pictures speak volume
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2023, 12:41:45 PM
Once again I repeat International image wont make Ruto get re-elected in 2027.
If thats the Case Raila would have been elected in 2013. Remember he was UN envoy and the darling of the West.

Mt Kenya is a factor as was seen in 2022 elections . Ruto would have been defeated by 8 oclock in the morning if it wasnt for Mt Kenya.
Having said that Mt Kenyans politics is closely related to Economy  and Raila phobia which seems to be rescinding after Uhuru betrayal and Ruto Hustla lies .
Tribal pundits like you still think they can pit Kenyans against Mt Kenya like in 2007 .
Sorry welcome to the new age , Economy and joblessness  is affecting all Kenyans . Ruto should do a Bill Clinton or Kibaki and concetrate on Economy . This will save his re-election bid . 41 vs 1 didnt help Raila nor will it help Ruto .
Raila was defeated by Kibaki still in 2007 something you still burry your head in the sand same as you are doing now with Rutos performance on Economy . International image my foot ……..


Ruto is past Mt kenya politics - he is building a international image - is not interested in tribal nonsense. Kenyans will elect him with landslide in 2027 as he will be africa top leader by then.

Mt kenya has a choice - buy time - bide time - wait for Ruto to finish or Sakaja will add 10 more - anything else will lead to 41-1 situation as Ruto will simply ostracize mt Kenya. The only threat Mt kenya can use is Raila whom they hate the most.

In short - play nice - get used to fair kenya - nurture real talents - otherwise Sakaja Kosgei ako pale doing mark time

Jaduong you are trying hard in conspiracy theory .
Facts are as following
1. Gachagua has no Command of Mt Kenya electorate.
2. Ruto is no longer the darling of Mt Kenya . Economy and tribalism is not doing good gor him.
3. There is going to be a referendum soon . Based on the referendum question it will be a wake up call to Ruto and his inner circle.

Your hate for GEMA is seen kilometers away . Just after 2022 elections you came out clear as a Luo and you said you were proud to be one , what really happened .
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2023, 01:12:34 PM
Ruto will work for all kenyans. 2027 election is not 2022. Mt kenya simply returned a favour that Kalenjin did to them. And that is just one election. We still want you support for another two elections including of Sakaja.

If you think Ruto will bend over backwards - then you're overthinking - we supported Mt kenya for a decade - after Kibaki stole our vote :) :)

Ruto will and cannot lose 2027. For every GEMA vote he will lose; he will gain many from many small tribes who just want to be in Gov.

So let talk 2032. 2027 hiyo ni ufala.

Once again I repeat International image wont make Ruto get re-elected in 2027.
If thats the Case Raila would have been elected in 2013. Remember he was UN envoy and the darling of the West.

Mt Kenya is a factor as was seen in 2022 elections . Ruto would have been defeated by 8 oclock in the morning if it wasnt for Mt Kenya.
Having said that Mt Kenyans politics is closely related to Economy  and Raila phobia which seems to be rescinding after Uhuru betrayal and Ruto Hustla lies .
Tribal pundits like you still think they can pit Kenyans against Mt Kenya like in 2007 .
Sorry welcome to the new age , Economy and joblessness  is affecting all Kenyans . Ruto should do a Bill Clinton or Kibaki and concetrate on Economy . This will save his re-election bid . 41 vs 1 didnt help Raila nor will it help Ruto .
Raila was defeated by Kibaki still in 2007 something you still burry your head in the sand same as you are doing now with Rutos performance on Economy . International image my foot ……..


Ruto is past Mt kenya politics - he is building a international image - is not interested in tribal nonsense. Kenyans will elect him with landslide in 2027 as he will be africa top leader by then.

Mt kenya has a choice - buy time - bide time - wait for Ruto to finish or Sakaja will add 10 more - anything else will lead to 41-1 situation as Ruto will simply ostracize mt Kenya. The only threat Mt kenya can use is Raila whom they hate the most.

In short - play nice - get used to fair kenya - nurture real talents - otherwise Sakaja Kosgei ako pale doing mark time

Jaduong you are trying hard in conspiracy theory .
Facts are as following
1. Gachagua has no Command of Mt Kenya electorate.
2. Ruto is no longer the darling of Mt Kenya . Economy and tribalism is not doing good gor him.
3. There is going to be a referendum soon . Based on the referendum question it will be a wake up call to Ruto and his inner circle.

Your hate for GEMA is seen kilometers away . Just after 2022 elections you came out clear as a Luo and you said you were proud to be one , what really happened .
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 09, 2023, 03:04:58 PM
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look at the faces funny shiet...hawa watalimana
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Georgesoros on October 09, 2023, 03:28:52 PM
No wonder economy is sinking. Appoint yes people and you get a sinking ground.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: gout on October 09, 2023, 03:35:07 PM
Looks fatigue. Overworking. Running around. It better be public interest keeping them awake.

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look at the faces funny shiet...hawa watalimana
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 11, 2023, 12:57:01 AM
Jaduong you are trying hard in conspiracy theory .
Facts are as following
1. Gachagua has no Command of Mt Kenya electorate.
2. Ruto is no longer the darling of Mt Kenya . Economy and tribalism is not doing good gor him.
3. There is going to be a referendum soon . Based on the referendum question it will be a wake up call to Ruto and his inner circle.

Your hate for GEMA is seen kilometers away . Just after 2022 elections you came out clear as a Luo and you said you were proud to be one , what really happened .

The ISSUE is not Gachagua.
The issue is Kikuyu getting kicked out of government,revenue sharing and tenders going to ruto people from military police water privatisation deals,energy,infrastructure.
Second issue is bailouts sugar 170bn Coffee nothing.

Stop being petty.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Kadudu on October 11, 2023, 09:52:41 AM
Even today GEMA is over represented in government. How many CSs and PSs are of Mt kenya background? Check other ethnicities like Kisii, Luo, Luhya, Kamba etc and compare their percentage in population and in top government positions.  It is kalejin and GEMA that overrepresented. Mt Kenya should stop whinning since this is the politics that was order of the day in Kibaki's and Uhuru's days. Even after Ruto, the next president will have to cut Kalejins to size. They will cry, but it is destined to happen.

The ISSUE is not Gachagua.
The issue is Kikuyu getting kicked out of government,revenue sharing and tenders going to ruto people from military police water privatisation deals,energy,infrastructure.
Second issue is bailouts sugar 170bn Coffee nothing.

Stop being petty.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on October 11, 2023, 10:15:46 AM
Even today GEMA is over represented in government. How many CSs and PSs are of Mt kenya background? Check other ethnicities like Kisii, Luo, Luhya, Kamba etc and compare their percentage in population and in top government positions.  It is kalejin and GEMA that overrepresented. Mt Kenya should stop whinning since this is the politics that was order of the day in Kibaki's and Uhuru's days. Even after Ruto, the next president will have to cut Kalejins to size. They will cry, but it is destined to happen.

The ISSUE is not Gachagua.
The issue is Kikuyu getting kicked out of government,revenue sharing and tenders going to ruto people from military police water privatisation deals,energy,infrastructure.
Second issue is bailouts sugar 170bn Coffee nothing.

Stop being petty.

(1) Majority of Ruto votes Over 40 % Was from GEMA,So when i see them being ejected from security,infrastructure,revenue collection and bailouts of cash crops,I must question because why did they vote Ruto if he was not to reward them?

2) Ministers and PSs are not equal.Take the example of Kuria,He was incharge of cooking oil maize wheat imports worth over 300BN annually,Now he is a PS of public service that makes him a clerk.Take the example of Alice,Just before Ruto hands out water privatisation deals worth billions,He had to kick her out.Its therefore paramount to note,the money people steal from government,they invest in their businesses and employ their tribes in hotels banks schools tech etc.So when you see kikuyus kicked out,It means poverty through the pen and generational poverty.

Take a look at counties like Mandera after devolutions,you have somali billionaires buying off properties in parklands eastleigh and towns like mandera marsabit growing.Steal GOK money,Invest in private sector and employ your people.

Because Ruto has betrayed kikuyus,He must be impeached and dealt with politically.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: RV Pundit on October 11, 2023, 11:47:24 AM
Now somalis are investing from devolution. Kalenjin are stealing. Mt kenya should be careful otherwise leadership may not happen soon. This Ruto gov for 10yrs.
Title: Re: Reason Gachagua is angry with Ruto.Ndindi Ichungwa traitors.
Post by: Githunguri on May 22, 2024, 11:39:39 AM
It took the fools too long to notice.