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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on October 07, 2023, 03:34:22 AM
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Gachagua wants to meet Uhuru Asap,Ruto gave mudavadi more powers and headed to Nyanza.He held meetings with orengo n nyongo (read Raila).He was accompanied by Ichungwa.At the same time,Raila called Gachagua primitive.
Gachagua is alone,Of course Ndindi n Ichungwa want him out of the picture for their future political careers.Ruto is taking advantage of this and isolating Gachagua by heavily funding Mt kenya MPs to oppose him,Lets see how it goes down.
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Ruto’s 2027 strategy is 41vs 1,neutralize okuyus completely. We saw it coming but kageges thought they are too smart. The whole thing depends on Raila though, if he bites, Luos, Kambas and Luhyas follow suit. If Raila plays chess, Ruto pisses off mt Kenya and loses 2027.
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Ruto’s 2027 strategy is 41vs 1,neutralize okuyus completely. We saw it coming but kageges thought they are too smart. The whole thing depends on Raila though, if he bites, Luos, Kambas and Luhyas follow suit. If Raila plays chess, Ruto pisses off mt Kenya and loses 2027.
1) If Raila forms a pact with Ruto,What will Raila gain?Will he still run in 2027?Are they going to hold a constitutional referendum in 2024 to ensure Raila becomes Prime minister and supports Ruto in 2027?
2) Can Gachagua wage a war against Ruto ?What will he gain?What will be the end game?Maybe a pact with Kalonzo?
Gachagua has even demanded for 10 more constituencies while Wamuchomba has tabled a bill for more CDF to GEMA wards to create a rebellion against ruto.
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Ruto’s 2027 strategy is 41vs 1,neutralize okuyus completely. We saw it coming but kageges thought they are too smart. The whole thing depends on Raila though, if he bites, Luos, Kambas and Luhyas follow suit. If Raila plays chess, Ruto pisses off mt Kenya and loses 2027.
When WSR as DP told his audience "tafuteni serikali kwanza ivo ndo mtatatua shida zenu", folks didn't get it or didnt head his message. Now he "has serikali". Flash back, to WSR the lake was never the problem. It is the mountain people who have always felt entitled. When he is done with his 10 years, the landscape will be leveled. Riggy G and Gov Kahiga can see it already coming hence the panic pangs.
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https://x.com/HonMoses_Kuria/status/1710526625060639029?s=20
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Ruto is being Presidential expected from him . 2 things are very clear . Politics alone cannot salvage Rutos re-election prospects of 2027.
He needs an economy miracle something next to impossible due to misadvising from the Ndiis and secondly He needs to create an environment for youth employment which has been affected by capital flight by investors due to the misadventure of Rutos Economic advisers.
The only option left for him unfortunately is play ball with Raila .Same thing Uhuru did . It has its own consequences though . Like a revolt from Mt Kenya and the majority of supporters who voted for him in 2022.
A referendum is inevitable and as said above Mt Kenya should expect to be betrayed they should ensure they come out as the winners in the referendum . 10 constituencies and one man one shilling approach is not enough . They should look at areas which will ensure they benefit in the real terms and long term .
Ruto and Raila need each other and its about time they get something substantial enriched in the Constitution otherwise they will be in for a rough ride which will make Mois error look like a childsplay.
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Continue playing as Sakaja kosgei inherit Ruto in 2032...gema shoukf play long term...but I don't think they patience..they even think they can threaten Ruto..2027 is beyond done deal...think 2032 n work on it
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Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%
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1) Are we going to have a referendum or parliamentary amendment?
2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.
3 ) That creates 2007 repeat,Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.
4 ) Incase of such a scenario,Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?
The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.
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Sakaja is DOA, the guy doesn’t have anything,,no charisma or intelligence. I think he is the dullest and dummest governor Nairobi has ever seen at least Sonko as dumb as he is had some charisma. On 2027, keep reassuring yourself that it’s a done deal, If elections were held today, Ruto would struggle mightily, people are hungry and angry. I would watch the games being played very keenly, I highly doubt Raila will join such a failing and unpopular government.
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Gachagua is falling into asiminion sore loser spirit. With inability to score quick wins in coffee and milk, he is foolishly falling into his detractors trap. He is fodder to blogs and news vultures. He can't stop feeding them. For once seems he has had a dress down thus the retreat to Inooro (just like ufool) as Hasla was in Nyanza. I think it is first time they are not together.
I have seen no assmio attacks Hasla that harshly. Gachagua should take the cue and retreat till coast clears huko 2025. The ufool he is seeking had roots and could not hack Hasla, sasa ndio watado? Well politicians are not that clever as they appear.
When was Hasla last on Kass FM?
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I think Ruto will try n impeach Gachagua.
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Raila buyout deal is complete, just watch his recent KTN interview. Gachagua is still a nobody and suicidally thinks singing Mt Kenya siege will help him a constituency.
Kalonzo has proved beyond doubts he has no intention of aligning with likes of Gachagua.
Taming Odingaism has great dividends not only politically but economically. In 2002, Kibaki got a tamed Odingaism only to squander the opportunity and we are still bleeding. A tamed Odingaism and a focused Hasla in 2-3 years is enough to rebuild the economy and make hasoras happy.
Some sore losers will be converted, others will still be inconsolable thus all these doomsday scenarios in Hasla's first year.
Hasla has done well sending clear message to Gachagua and Kuria- msiniletee hiyo ujinga. That is leadership.
2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.
3 ) That creates 2007 repeat, Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.
4 ) Incase of such a scenario, Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?
The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.
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Ruto might have plans to split mt.kenya 3 way,kiambu Muranga one side,Nyeri the other and mt.kenya east. Gachagua due to his verbal diarrhea unfortunately fails to become kingpin,Kuria ichungwa will fight him already, Ruto knowing he is weak might even replace him in 27 with another GEMA, but main ball is how Baba plays it still far days ahead, Trying to relegate and Isolate GEMA wont work simply because all Kenyans are now united against Ruto.due to economy so that ball cant be played at all, Ruto.will be lucky if he wins in 2027 under todays economics unless he rigs no way he will make it,and then again he relies on GEMA for this, its hard for Ruto but economy is everything now otherwise he looks more delusional or just a charlatan
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Ruto might have plans to split mt.kenya 3 way,kiambu Muranga one side,Nyeri the other and mt.kenya east. Gachagua due to his verbal diarrhea unfortunately fails to become kingpin,Kuria ichungwa will fight him already, Ruto knowing he is weak might even replace him in 27 with another GEMA, but main ball is how Baba plays it still far days ahead, Trying to relegate and Isolate GEMA wont work simply because all Kenyans are now united against Ruto.due to economy so that ball cant be played at all, Ruto.will be lucky if he wins in 2027 under todays economics unless he rigs no way he will make it,and then again he relies on GEMA for this, its hard for Ruto but economy is everything now otherwise he looks more delusional or just a charlatan
Like Gout has said.If Ruto has bought Raila,He has inturn bought the IEBC,Luo,Luhya & Coast.You cant defeat him.He will then go ahead and subdivide GEMA using Ichungwa Ndindi Gachagua Kindiki Factions.
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Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%
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Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Ruto will never lose 2027...incumbents don't lose elections that easily..least of all someone as gifted as Ruto.Ruto will win by 70%
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Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Perfectly put, history repeats itself. :D
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Raila buyout deal is complete, just watch his recent KTN interview. Gachagua is still a nobody and suicidally thinks singing Mt Kenya siege will help him a constituency.
Kalonzo has proved beyond doubts he has no intention of aligning with likes of Gachagua.
Taming Odingaism has great dividends not only politically but economically. In 2002, Kibaki got a tamed Odingaism only to squander the opportunity and we are still bleeding. A tamed Odingaism and a focused Hasla in 2-3 years is enough to rebuild the economy and make hasoras happy.
Some sore losers will be converted, others will still be inconsolable thus all these doomsday scenarios in Hasla's first year.
Hasla has done well sending clear message to Gachagua and Kuria- msiniletee hiyo ujinga. That is leadership.
2 ) If Raila Ruto strike deal,Raila becomes prime minister and exits 2027 race,Ruto inherits Coastal Nyanza and Western vote.
3 ) That creates 2007 repeat, Kenya Vs Mt Kenya.
4 ) Incase of such a scenario, Will Gachagua deputize Kalonzo in the 2027 presidential vote?
The most probable here is Raila Ruto deal because Raila is too old and frail to run and win the 2027 election.
gout you're intelligent. Raila has sold luos to Ruto. He was never going to hand over for free..gema should retreat until 2027 huko...avoid Ruto if you can...compete with Sakajas of 2023
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Moi was incumbent and lost 2002.
You were the one who always sings Raila was incumbent in 2013 with IEBC in his pocket through Owalo and Hassan but still lost to UhuRuto.
Raila had support on Incumbent in 2022 but still lost .
Ruto is not superhuman you are making same mistake Raila supporters have made since time memorial Ruto just like Raila is not invincible .
Raila lost 2013 and 2022 because of miscalculation . Ruto is miscalculating as we speak .He needs to stop listening to the likes of you and he might get back on track .
Perfectly put, history repeats itself. :D
njuri stop giving yourself false sense of insecurity..politics is dynamic..n you don't have someone who can play at high level..you look longterm like kalenjin did in 2018...go slow until 2032..or 2042..kalenjin unlikely to leave it that easy
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Hii kitu immeenda for 20yrs minimum..be the second..or you will be the last.2nd position is good deal
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Hii kitu immeenda for 20yrs minimum..be the second..or you will be the last.2nd position is good deal
Pundit you like elevatiing Ruto to a god status thats what Jaruos did to odinga the outcome is clear for everyone to see as Noway stated. History has shown there is no invisible person see what happened to Putin a few months ago, we all wish Ruto very well and a smooth sailing in 27 but reality at this point is otherwise economy crumbling, credit rating falling and we are in top 3 countries in world at risk to default on the eurobond among others, unfortunately Ruto has placed too many bets like in a jackpot too risky instead of placing single bets which are more easy to control add the Haiti gamble and see why Ruto might not survive 27 even Kalenjin might do a samuel doe on him whne body bags roll back to eldoret. Already protests in Haiti are singing
"Ruto American puppet,Shame on Kenya!"
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Pundit one bet am hoping Ruto wins is the technology one this might just be the breakthrough Kenya needs to propel further ahead but lets see what happens that's only thing the west can assist Kenya in if wishing to share technologies
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Ruto and Raila are like night and day. Based on what I know, he wants Ichung'wah or Ndindi to take over from him, but if it comes to shove, Gachagua comes distant 3rd. Raila, Mdvd, Sajaja, Kalonzo and the rest are not on his radar!
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Njuri my friend I an Pundit because I see things n say things in black n white.My advice to gema is what kalenjin did in 2008..play long..Ruto is too powerful..understatement of the year...Ruto is already a global phenomenon...power doest concede shiet...buy time..try to second..be loyal...never never I repeat never ever fight Ruto. Gema should go into hibernation. Try to appeal Ruto good side..Play fools..hide jokers n aces..or you'll be like luos.kalenjjn are expert in play that game..learn from kalenjin..when weak avoid direct confrontation...when you get opportunity devastate the enemy mercilessly...kalenjin only fight at night with camouflage...hide you strength..bid your time.Dont repeat moi era mistakes..don't be like luos...play the fools..buy time..play second..because there people in Kenya who'd die to second..
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