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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on January 04, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
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1. Suicide, a negro version of sepukku or something
2. He choked on his puke/tongue- a lethal case of obstructive sleep apnea
3. Poisoning- could be from anyone. Jubirlee to slow down Rayirla or a jilted man on a murderous rage
4. Human sacrifice- from Rayirla to recharge his flat political batteries or Ngina the certified witch
5. Satanism/Luciferic sacrifice- they came for his son's blood and he resisted.
6. God called him home because he had finished his assignment
7. Rayirla faked his death to remain relevant. 2Pac is still around
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A man, has lost a child, his first born, not sure if you understand the magnitude of such (I dont think you do), yet he cannot even mourn in peace before wanna be conspiracy theorist start with the speculations.......cant we just let it be. You would not wish him RIP because according to you, it wont have any bearing on his place of rest, yet you have no qualms starting conspiracy theories about his demise. Do you even have blood running through your veins pastor vooke?
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Actually vooke is just reporting on the various "theories" out there on the ground. I can understand your anxiety because somehow you fear certain things or people may be mentioned.
A man, has lost a child, his first born, not sure if you understand the magnitude of such (I dont think you do), yet he cannot even mourn in peace before wanna be conspiracy theorist start with the speculations.......cant we just let it be. You would not wish him RIP because according to you, it wont have any bearing on his place of rest, yet you have no qualms starting conspiracy theories about his demise. Do you even have blood running through your veins pastor vooke?
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I am not anxious or afraid of "certain things" or "certain persons" being mentioned. If anything, let the postmorterm tell us what happened. This just happened and just like any parent would, I feel their pain.
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These are prominent negroes mya88, they belch and they make news, divorce and books come out. Why should it stop at death? And do you honestly think his relationship with Rayirla will stop speculation? Far from it,it will excite the most ludicrous conspiracy theories. Personally I don't have much tolerance for negro conspiracies since they are so harebrained that the braindead can see through them. But I admit they make good humour
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These are prominent negroes mya88, they belch and they make news, divorce and books come out. Why should it stop at death? And do you honestly think his relationship with Rayirla will stop speculation? Far from it,it will excite the most ludicrous conspiracy theories. Personally I don't have much tolerance for negro conspiracies since they are so harebrained that the braindead can see through them. But I admit they make good humour
As a pastor, do you consider today to be the ideal time to humour yourself with those stories? I agree with Mya. Vooke, you can't be preaching 247 and then excuse yourself from basic human decency when non-religious topics come around. Are you a compartmentalized Christian? What influence does your faith in Jesus have on your life apart from religious debates and sermons? Swali tu.
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You are acting like you had something to do with the death.
I am not anxious or afraid of "certain things" or "certain persons" being mentioned. If anything, let the postmorterm tell us what happened. This just happened and just like any parent would, I feel their pain.
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I have done my bit; prayed for the bereaved for strength. That's all. You can throw in prayers for the dead if you wish. That's BS to me. Don't pray for me once am gone. And I almost checked out in November BTW, and on Friday, nearly rammed into a stationary vehicle on Thika Road. And I was flying by then. I think am crazy, the thing that flashed through my mind was that my bumper was taking a hit AGAIN. A boba boda rammed into me on 26th.
Now, I don't know about your personality enough to discern if you are humorous or not, but I can dismiss your psychoanalysis of humour from an otherwise serious post with the contempt it deserves.
Somebody just suggested that it could have been drugs. That totally escaped me.
PS: how should I 'behave' or react or respond to this?
As a pastor, do you consider today to be the ideal time to humour yourself with those stories? I agree with Mya. Vooke, you can't be preaching 247 and then excuse yourself from basic human decency when non-religious topics come around. Are you a compartmentalized Christian? What influence does your faith in Jesus have on your life apart from religious debates and sermons? Swali tu.
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May he rest in eternal peace.
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Not long ago, another family was grieving:
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Motorist-driving-Fidels-car-was-drunk/-/1950946/2470246/-/format/xhtml/-/h9grlhz/-/index.html
1. Suicide, a negro version of sepukku or something
2. He choked on his puke/tongue- a lethal case of obstructive sleep apnea
3. Poisoning- could be from anyone. Jubirlee to slow down Rayirla or a jilted man on a murderous rage
4. Human sacrifice- from Rayirla to recharge his flat political batteries or Ngina the certified witch
5. Satanism/Luciferic sacrifice- they came for his son's blood and he resisted.
6. God called him home because he had finished his assignment
7. Rayirla faked his death to remain relevant. 2Pac is still around
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A man dying in his prime after a night out. The likely causes in my mind would be alcohol poisoning.
In this case I would also not rule out foul play. Fidel was a robust man.
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Haha. Hit a raw nerve there, i see, pastor vooke, ever seeing luos behind every shadow. Who needs psychoanalyze an ever abusive self-claimed pastor? Your posts scream it 247. By the way, did you finally manage to drive Daily bread away or is she allowed to post once in a while? Havent seen her in the last week. And I will pray for your dead self as much as I like, even throw in a few Hail Marys too. I see your belief in your ability to control other people is still live and kicking.
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Am not responsible for your or Nuff Sed feelings. I'd have to be God to force you to read my posts. I do appreciate the impact of your classes on your thinking. That feeling like your new knowledge is new to the world,and the world was waiting for you to redeem it with it.
You are seeing humour where none exists and on this basis you are judging me insensitive. Care to prove am humouring myself?
I can't possibly divorce you from your BS, but I have a God given duty to remind you that it is just that. And I love doing it. And am sure you love it too
Haha. Hit a raw nerve there, i see, pastor vooke, ever seeing luos behind every shadow. Who needs psychoanalyze an ever abusive self-claimed pastor? Your posts scream it 247. By the way, did you finally manage to drive Daily bread away or is she allowed to post once in a while? Havent seen her in the last week. And I will pray for your dead self as much as I like, even throw in a few Hail Marys too. I see your belief in your ability to control other people is still live and kicking.
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Am not responsible for your or Nuff Sed feelings. I'd have to be God to force you to read my posts. I do appreciate the impact of your classes on your thinking. That feeling like your new knowledge is new to the world,and the world was waiting for you to redeem it with it.
You are seeing humour where none exists and on this basis you are judging me insensitive. Care to prove am humouring myself?
I can't possibly divorce you from your BS, but I have a God given duty to remind you that it is just that. And I love doing it. And am sure you love it too
Haha. Hit a raw nerve there, i see, pastor vooke, ever seeing luos behind every shadow. Who needs psychoanalyze an ever abusive self-claimed pastor? Your posts scream it 247. By the way, did you finally manage to drive Daily bread away or is she allowed to post once in a while? Havent seen her in the last week. And I will pray for your dead self as much as I like, even throw in a few Hail Marys too. I see your belief in your ability to control other people is still live and kicking.
Wacha Uwivu, classes usizosoma za kwashiani? Who stopped you from taking some? And it is you in your post who said conspiracies for you are for humour, right in that post. Read again the reply you made to Mya88. If they are for your humour, what else is one to assume is your point in posting them here specially if one reads the stuff you wrote? You don't care for others feelings but a self-proclaimed preacher ought to at least pretend to have basic human virtues, leave alone Christian ones. Feel free to tell me of my BS, but grow a thicker skin for when I am clarifying for you your own load of the stuff that you spew here for the uninformed 247.
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I salute education, nothing beats education. But you just alleged that am humouring myself and I wondered how. Next you claim am controlling people's thinking. Can you just say you are spoilt for a fight and convince me to fight you. I will gladly do it as soon as you do so and explain the value the same adds to my time, otherwise you are just happy to engage me. You do like my posts don't you? Admit it
Exactly how do you BETTER care for others than I do? Please teach me.
Now, when you breath your last, even if the entire billions of Catholicism sheeple pray and fast for you, your eternity is sealed. That will be wasted man hours. Be wise, don't count on post-death prayers to save you
Am not responsible for your or Nuff Sed feelings. I'd have to be God to force you to read my posts. I do appreciate the impact of your classes on your thinking. That feeling like your new knowledge is new to the world,and the world was waiting for you to redeem it with it.
You are seeing humour where none exists and on this basis you are judging me insensitive. Care to prove am humouring myself?
I can't possibly divorce you from your BS, but I have a God given duty to remind you that it is just that. And I love doing it. And am sure you love it too
Haha. Hit a raw nerve there, i see, pastor vooke, ever seeing luos behind every shadow. Who needs psychoanalyze an ever abusive self-claimed pastor? Your posts scream it 247. By the way, did you finally manage to drive Daily bread away or is she allowed to post once in a while? Havent seen her in the last week. And I will pray for your dead self as much as I like, even throw in a few Hail Marys too. I see your belief in your ability to control other people is still live and kicking.
Wacha Uwivu, classes usizosoma za kwashiani? Who stopped you from taking some? And it is you in your post who said conspiracies for you are for humour, right in that post. Read again the reply you made to Mya88. If they are for your humour, what else is one to assume is your point in posting them here specially if one reads the stuff you wrote? You don't care for others feelings but a self-proclaimed preacher ought to at least pretend to have basic human virtues, leave alone Christian ones. Feel free to tell me of my BS, but grow a thicker skin for when I am clarifying for you your own load of the stuff that you spew here for the uninformed 247.
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I salute education, nothing beats education. But you just alleged that am humouring myself and I wondered how. Next you claim am controlling people's thinking. Can you just say you are spoilt for a fight and convince me to fight you. I will gladly do it as soon as you do so and explain the value the same adds to my time, otherwise you are just happy to engage me. You do like my posts don't you? Admit it
Exactly how do you BETTER care for others than I do? Please teach me.
Now, when you breath your last, even if the entire billions of Catholicism sheeple pray and fast for you, your eternity is sealed. That will be wasted man hours. Be wise, don't count on post-death prayers to save you
Am not responsible for your or Nuff Sed feelings. I'd have to be God to force you to read my posts. I do appreciate the impact of your classes on your thinking. That feeling like your new knowledge is new to the world,and the world was waiting for you to redeem it with it.
You are seeing humour where none exists and on this basis you are judging me insensitive. Care to prove am humouring myself?
I can't possibly divorce you from your BS, but I have a God given duty to remind you that it is just that. And I love doing it. And am sure you love it too
Haha. Hit a raw nerve there, i see, pastor vooke, ever seeing luos behind every shadow. Who needs psychoanalyze an ever abusive self-claimed pastor? Your posts scream it 247. By the way, did you finally manage to drive Daily bread away or is she allowed to post once in a while? Havent seen her in the last week. And I will pray for your dead self as much as I like, even throw in a few Hail Marys too. I see your belief in your ability to control other people is still live and kicking.
Wacha Uwivu, classes usizosoma za kwashiani? Who stopped you from taking some? And it is you in your post who said conspiracies for you are for humour, right in that post. Read again the reply you made to Mya88. If they are for your humour, what else is one to assume is your point in posting them here specially if one reads the stuff you wrote? You don't care for others feelings but a self-proclaimed preacher ought to at least pretend to have basic human virtues, leave alone Christian ones. Feel free to tell me of my BS, but grow a thicker skin for when I am clarifying for you your own load of the stuff that you spew here for the uninformed 247.
Be wise. Realize beyond your ears and bedroom, your declarations on the afterlife mean about diddly squat. I might as well listen to my Hindu friend teach me about my past life. And don't flatter yourself. I am not spoiling for a fight or even a Convo. I was irritated by your tasteless sense of humour and pointed out that a pastor ought to know better.
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@vooke,
I refuse to go the speculation route with this particular death. But I'd be remiss to deny that it immediately overshadows
1. the arrest and imprisonment of Alan Wadi on phony premises.
2. the murder of an ICC witness in Uasin Gishu.
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vooke, why do you dehumanize folks by referring them by their tribe or race or whatever? Ohoo i know! So you can proceed to say nasty things.
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RIP.
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It's an old habit. I will try and wean me out of it. I used it first on my jarluo pal back in campus and it has always been like that. I suppose Kenia are getting more uptight and political correctness may be getting to us
vooke, why do you dehumanize folks by referring them by their tribe or race or whatever? Ohoo i know! So you can proceed to say nasty things.
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Your emotions got the better of you? As usual. how can a leopard change its spots
Which part do you find humorous?
Be wise. Realize beyond your ears and bedroom, your declarations on the afterlife mean about diddly squat. I might as well listen to my Hindu friend teach me about my past life. And don't flatter yourself. I am not spoiling for a fight or even a Convo. I was irritated by your tasteless sense of humour and pointed out that a pastor ought to know better.
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Your emotions got the better of you? As usual. how can a leopard change its spots
Which part do you find humorous?
Be wise. Realize beyond your ears and bedroom, your declarations on the afterlife mean about diddly squat. I might as well listen to my Hindu friend teach me about my past life. And don't flatter yourself. I am not spoiling for a fight or even a Convo. I was irritated by your tasteless sense of humour and pointed out that a pastor ought to know better.
None of it is humorous, from the headline to the content of the first post to that explanation you made to Mya confirming that your motivation is "good humour". In the circumstances, its actually repulsive and quite SAD, not funny at all. I can't explain your idea of humour, I can only describe it as twisted when it is, as in this particular case.
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Kadame,
I told Mya88 that there is nothing intelligent on negro conspiracy theories but they (the theories that is) make good humour. Some are so outlandish. That was the point, not mocking a grieving parent. Kids bury parents. That's natural. When parents bury kids, the grief is untold.
Yesterday I was in bed listening to KTN Tukuza and this lady spoke of her two miscarriages in 3 years. She said how she had started getting names for her unborn and window shopped, bought a cot. She found it mighty insensitive for her relations and friends to console her by telling her that the unborn was just a piece of flesh and there is more where it came from! That is an unborn. Now imagine raising a kid to 40 years. Imagine how much more bond there is between the parent and the kid.
I honestly tried to understand where you was coming from and I couldn't until I read that post.
None of it is humorous, from the headline to the content of the first post to that explanation you made to Mya confirming that your motivation is "good humour". In the circumstances, its actually repulsive and quite SAD, not funny at all. I can't explain your idea of humour, I can only describe it as twisted when it is, as in this particular case.
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Kadame,
I told Mya88 that there is nothing intelligent on negro conspiracy theories but they (the theories that is) make good humour. Some are so outlandish. That was the point, not mocking a grieving parent. Kids bury parents. That's natural. When parents bury kids, the grief is untold.
Yesterday I was in bed listening to KTN Tukuza and this lady spoke of her two miscarriages in 3 years. She said how she had started getting names for her unborn and window shopped, bought a cot. She found it mighty insensitive for her relations and friends to console her by telling her that the unborn was just a piece of flesh and there is more where it came from! That is an unborn. Now imagine raising a kid to 40 years. Imagine how much more bond there is between the parent and the kid.
I honestly tried to understand where you was coming from and I couldn't until I read that post.
None of it is humorous, from the headline to the content of the first post to that explanation you made to Mya confirming that your motivation is "good humour". In the circumstances, its actually repulsive and quite SAD, not funny at all. I can't explain your idea of humour, I can only describe it as twisted when it is, as in this particular case.
Well, if I misread your meaning then I withdraw/apologize.
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vooke, why do you dehumanize folks by referring them by their tribe or race or whatever? Ohoo i know! So you can proceed to say nasty things.
It's a devastating tactic. Ronald Reagan used it against Carter. Carter never recovered. It is the same tactic used against RAO in 2007 but perfected in 2013. I advised them on possible antidotes but never try to speak sense where hyenas sense rotten meat!
The focus was on the money.
For the record I employ it from time to time.
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I am glad you also find vooke wicked sense of humour quite disturbing. Maybe as new yr resolution he can for once start seeing people for who they are individually. Only when you're discussing a group of folks would it be apt to bring in their group name i.e tribe or race. But if you're talking about singular individuals like Prophet Owour, late Fidel odinga, or Kanyari..what does their tribe has to do with anything? ohoo mad jarluo prophet ohoo Jarluo's demise ohoo okuyu this..or negro this or that. If 10 or 20 luos had died...it would be okay if you bring in their tribe...but what has Jarluo has to do with Fidel? Is his tribe the most important attribute?
Why is it not enough to say "preliminary theories of Fidel Odinga demise".
None of it is humorous, from the headline to the content of the first post to that explanation you made to Mya confirming that your motivation is "good humour". In the circumstances, its actually repulsive and quite SAD, not funny at all. I can't explain your idea of humour, I can only describe it as twisted when it is, as in this particular case.
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Please read my response to Mya. I said the Negro conspiracy theories are unintelligent but they make good humor. It is the theories that I find amusing not a family mourning death of their forty year old first born
Your opinion is duly noted though
I am glad you also find vooke wicked sense of humour quite disturbing. Maybe as new yr resolution he can for once start seeing people for who they are individually. Only when you're discussing a group of folks would it be apt to bring in their group name i.e tribe or race. But if you're talking about singular individuals like Prophet Owour, late Fidel odinga, or Kanyari..what does their tribe has to do with anything? ohoo mad jarluo prophet ohoo Jarluo's demise ohoo okuyu this..or negro this or that. If 10 or 20 luos had died...it would be okay if you bring in their tribe...but what has Jarluo has to do with Fidel? Is his tribe the most important attribute?
Why is it not enough to say "preliminary theories of Fidel Odinga demise".
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You're spending more of your online time dehumanizing Luos,Kikuyus and Negros by your wicked sense of homour. Mad Jarluo prophet. This Jarluo demise. This okuyu that Negro.
And please just drop the name vooke[and all your other names]..and tell us your tribe so we can be say Jarluo or okuyu or Kao this or that.
Please read my response to Mya. I said the Negro conspiracy theories are unintelligent but they make good humor. It is the theories that I find amusing not a family mourning death of their forty year old first born
Your opinion is duly noted though
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Dehumanizing is your opinion. If it remotely occurs to me, I will duly drop it.
Political correctness is hypocrisy
You're spending more of your online time dehumanizing Luos,Kikuyus and Negros by your wicked sense of homour. Mad Jarluo prophet. This Jarluo demise. This okuyu that Negro.
And please just drop the name vooke[and all your other names]..and tell us your tribe so we can be say Jarluo or okuyu or Kao this or that.
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Dehumanization of people can happen when real interaction with their group is non-existent. When you don't interact with people, you are more vulnerable to seeing them in caricature. A common trait I noticed at the restroom.
I am not saying vooke is a case study. I actually don't think he dehumanizes so much as being non-politically correct. But sometimes he does bring in tribe in a manner that leaves one puzzled. The one case in mind I remember is the Idiot fellow who killed his wife in a perfectly domestic quarrel, the type that no tribe has a monopoly, real or perceived, on.
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Dehumanization of people can happen when real interaction with their group is non-existent. When you don't interact with people, you are more vulnerable to seeing them in caricature. A common trait I noticed at the restroom.
I am not saying vooke is a case study. I actually don't think he dehumanizes so much as being non-politically correct. But sometimes he does bring in tribe in a manner that leaves one puzzled. The one case in mind I remember is the Idiot fellow who killed his wife in a perfectly domestic quarrel, the type that no tribe has a monopoly, real or perceived, on.
:D :D That is the whole point. In the case study of pastor vooke, In his mind, I think he thinks its cool or something. This kind of characterization is expected in some quarters but certainly not from a self confessed man of the clothe. Vooke the threshold is higher for sane folks, but especially for you.
p/s, I like the way Kadame sock it you…hahaha ati compartmentalized Christian.
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Mya88,
kadame misunderstood me and she withdrew/apologized. She thought I was making humour out of Fidel's demise.
Termie,
I agree with you totally. There is a guy called Emmanuel Eni back in the 80s who wrote about his life as a satanist before converting to Christianity. He said they used to turn human flesh and blood into goat meat or something else to make it easier to eat. When Muslims go about butchering kaffirs, they are first convinced that these are subhuman unworthy of existence. In both cases, dehumanizing happens in the mind first. Once that is done, you would not hesitate to burn a fellow human alive. PEV too. The reason the two are on trial is because dehumanizing is not spontaneous; it takes time and Vague's idea is that the two were behind the planning and conditioning...
I use these tribal terms loosely for good and for evil and for fun without a care in this world and I have never been convinced they subtract nothing from my point. But times have changed. There is a university that found itself on the wrongside of political correctness; Inoorero University. The name is Embu or Okoyu and after PEV it could not attract nobody outside GEMA.
I will work on it if for no other reason than Veritas put up this forum to discuss real issues not vooke
Dehumanization of people can happen when real interaction with their group is non-existent. When you don't interact with people, you are more vulnerable to seeing them in caricature. A common trait I noticed at the restroom.
I am not saying vooke is a case study. I actually don't think he dehumanizes so much as being non-politically correct. But sometimes he does bring in tribe in a manner that leaves one puzzled. The one case in mind I remember is the Idiot fellow who killed his wife in a perfectly domestic quarrel, the type that no tribe has a monopoly, real or perceived, on.
:D :DThat is the whole point. In the case study of pastor vooke, In his mind, I think he thinks its cool. This kind of characterization is expected in some quarters but certainly not from a self confessed man of the clothe. Vooke the threshold is higher for sane folks, but especially for you.
p/s, I like the way Kadame sock it you…hahaha ati compartmentalized Christian.