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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on April 28, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
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This a coup on Raila...look like Ruto intend to fight for luo soul
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I thought the man was in exile. :D :D :D
The Luo soul is not for sale.
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Interesting times
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I thought the man was in exile. :D :D :D
The Luo soul is not for sale.
it's definitely a machievalian move..omollo the powerful interior..now ogolla..miguna miguna is warming up.The luhya impostor is being send back to Mumias.If Ruto could remove mois n kenyattas...odinga ni kitu bure.Just continue watching..already half odm luo mps have bolted..next is Ruto buy the rest. Today he has soften luo hearts by not only forgiving ogolla but also giving a position that unwritten law said luo cannot occupy.
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Ruto has kideros, obados, next is small job of buying Babu owino...Raila will find himself lonely. Ruto definitely going for the heart of odinga...he collecting his 2007 debt..luos owe him n must pay him soonest.Ruto has shown luo he has a problem with Raila..not them.Raila political death is imminent. RUTO will next need miguna n Babu owino..chapter close.Moi said jaluo sio pesa mingi
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Like kenyatta n moi impostors who enacted fake kingdoms..Raila must be exposed by real luo for who their family is..luhya wanga impostor on majestic luo people. Just like orphan moi from little clan or fake kenyatta who was not mau mau..real.luos must rise n tell odinga to go to mumias n rule the small wanga tribe.Odingas has destroyed luo nation for 60yrs n are totally incapable of winning presidency..why must luo people bear their cross n curse.Why must they always be in oppposition just because a wanga idiot can't score even an open goal.Luos have endured 60yrs carrying odingas with nothing but poverty..a community thar was ahead of any independence..is now bottom in many indicators..
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It's also clear indictment that Gen kibochi was no good.He would have got extension. Definitely Ogolla must have pleaded he was innocent and kibochi was to blame.
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:D :D :D
Kindly stop spreading your wet dreams here as reality.
It's also clear indictment that Gen kibochi was no good.He would have got extension. Definitely Ogolla must have pleaded he was innocent and kibochi was to blame.
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Machiaveli kitu gani. That shiet was for 1500 psycopaths.
Chereras were punished, then Kinyua and Ogolla are rewarded- What is the message to public servants?
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Monica Juma at Work…..
The Head of State also upheld recommendations of the Defence Council chaired by Defence Cabinet Secretary Monica Juma, for various promotions, posting and appointments of KDF officers.
The council known as the Number One Board decides changes in the appointment and promotion of senior military, as well as possible retirement or extension of contracts of the Kenya Army, Kenya Navy and Kenya Air Force commanders
Therefore, the President was obligated to select the next CDF from the Kenya Air Force, as General Kibochi, the outgoing CDF, was from the Army and succeeded General Mwathethe from the Navy.
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Monica Juma at Work…..
The Head of State also upheld recommendations of the Defence Council chaired by Defence Cabinet Secretary Monica Juma, for various promotions, posting and appointments of KDF officers.
The council known as the Number One Board decides changes in the appointment and promotion of senior military, as well as possible retirement or extension of contracts of the Kenya Army, Kenya Navy and Kenya Air Force commanders
Therefore, the President was obligated to select the next CDF from the Kenya Air Force, as General Kibochi, the outgoing CDF, was from the Army and succeeded General Mwathethe from the Navy.
jinga cic is under no obligation
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Machiaveli kitu gani. That shiet was for 1500 psycopaths.
Chereras were punished, then Kinyua and Ogolla are rewarded- What is the message to public servants?
messages is there is no wholesale condemnation..Kinyua is well known professionall..I will be last person to call for Kenya blood..he is one few gems in civil service
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Tonje rules. Nothing more to add!
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Next the CDF moves to the Navy. Maj gen Mutai will be promoted to Lt Gen before 2027. He is next in line.
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Professionalism means you do not bow to threats to bring civil war to Kenya. Hii ujing ya kina Nyakang'o, Kinyua and Ogola is no professionalism.
People we are paying millions cannot be hiding behind scapegoats when coming illegal things the they are rewarded.
Machiaveli kitu gani. That shiet was for 1500 psycopaths.
Chereras were punished, then Kinyua and Ogolla are rewarded- What is the message to public servants?
messages is there is no wholesale condemnation..Kinyua is well known professionall..I will be last person to call for Kenya blood..he is one few gems in civil service
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Machiaveli kitu gani. That shiet was for 1500 psycopaths.
Chereras were punished, then Kinyua and Ogolla are rewarded- What is the message to public servants?
messages is there is no wholesale condemnation..Kinyua is well known professionall..I will be last person to call for Kenya blood..he is one few gems in civil service
All said. This is indeed a masterstroke from WsR. Question is, is it enough to strike the heart of Luo nyanza enough to soften it to gravitate towards sirikal? It will take much more than that. But it's a good start/attempt!
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Professionalism means you do not bow to threats to bring civil war to Kenya. Hii ujing ya kina Nyakang'o, Kinyua and Ogola is no professionalism.
People we are paying millions cannot be hiding behind scapegoats when coming illegal things the they are rewarded.
Machiaveli kitu gani. That shiet was for 1500 psycopaths.
Chereras were punished, then Kinyua and Ogolla are rewarded- What is the message to public servants?
messages is there is no wholesale condemnation..Kinyua is well known professionall..I will be last person to call for Kenya blood..he is one few gems in civil service
You do understand duress
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This a coup on Raila...look like Ruto intend to fight for luo soul
Wishful thinking on contrary I see danger,This guy is in a position to do a coup on Mzito Ruto, its not far feched he could organize dissident against Ruto in army. I wont trust a Luo.there,Ruto will regret.
Guy just need to arm Luos in army and we will be like sudan, 2 armies fighting each other.
Ruto is losing it.
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Kalenjin sio watu wa kutisha na vita my friend.
Telling kalenjin to go to war is like inviting to go for picnic :)
Go and see Pokot - KDF huko wanalia.
Unless they intend to kill all kalenjin.
Anyone thinking of military solution is playing into hands of Kalenjin - that will mean Ruto and Kalenjin will run kenya for 50yrs - instead of 10yrs.
Even Moi when he was overthrown for few hours - he headed straight to pokot/baringo valley - where he expected to launch a fight back.
Ogolla will be just figured head - Ruto will put Kalenjin, maasai, samburus and Somalis in key strategic KDF positions.Hawa ndio wanaume - wengine ni wamama :)
Military Intelligence naona iko sawa. Next is Army command. Mambo kwisha.
Ruto gov will be like Moi gov - dont look at figure head - look at their deputies who wield really power.
Moi was able to rule for 24yrs - because he would appoint you as useless minister kama kalonzo - and get you sally kosgey to give you hot slaps once in a while.
Ruto gov will be very similar. He is going to throw lots of fake positions - but real strategic men will be his trusted allies. The minister most of time will just be ceremonial - running around the press - PS will be wielding power.
Though kibaki did institute lots reforms that gave ministers real power - some of which are now traditions - otherwise under Moi - PS and even ass minister like Ruto in 2000s would slap a minister.
Wishful thinking on contrary I see danger,This guy is in a position to do a coup on Mzito Ruto, its not far feched he could organize dissident against Ruto in army. I wont trust a Luo.there,Ruto will regret.
Guy just need to arm Luos in army and we will be like sudan, 2 armies fighting each other.
Ruto is losing it.
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If baba and his troop of exclusive Luo stone throwers can bring Nairobi and in extention kenya to a standstill,what would happen if luos in the army formed a RSF Kenyan version ?
Luos are bad, see how sudan and uganda they did it well,once a luo gets a gun you can bet the outcome will be genocide,In 82 Moi hid in a maize plantation in nakuru for 18 hours and was rescuedd by somalis otheriwse kalenjin had chickened out . moi was crying a mere Luo junior officer had overthrowned him.
By the way in Meru we always say Kalenjin are really cowards coz of this.
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Jaluo hapana tisha kalenjin since forever.
Enda south sudan.
I use to drink with south sudanase.
They dinka and nuers fear Kalenjin like people Murle.
They use to call me Murle.
Murle are very small tribe of cattle rustlers like Kalenjin - but they make dinkas and nuer sing.
I really doubt Murle and Kalenjin are related but for them we were.
Those south sudanase insisted murle - speak and have kalenjin name
Kalenjin are tough nuts - hapana tisha hawa na vita.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2013/5/19/deaths-reported-in-south-sudan-cattle-raids
At least 29 people have been killed after cattle raiders from a South Sudanese minority group opened fire on members of another minority in a village in Upper Nile state, according to a local official.
"In South Sudan, 42 people were killed and 78 wounded in Bieh State after armed Murle tribesmen attacked cattle keepers, stealing more than 100 head of cattle at the beginning of 2019. In December, gunmen stole 400 cattle and killed 11 herdsmen and wounded seven others in Jonglei State."
If baba and his troop of exclusive Luo stone throwers can bring Nairobi and in extention kenya to a standstill,what would happen if luos in the army formed a RSF Kenyan version ?
Luos are bad, see how sudan and uganda they did it well,once a luo gets a gun you can bet the outcome will be genocide,In 82 Moi hid in a maize plantation in nakuru for 18 hours and was rescuedd by somalis otheriwse kalenjin had chickened out . moi was crying a mere Luo junior officer had overthrowned him.
By the way in Meru we always say Kalenjin are really cowards coz of this.
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Again the violence talk. Even with out neighbours fighting from Somalia, South Sudan , Ethipia and Sudan now you dont learn anything ?
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So war talk or violence is only legal if its btw Ukraine and Russia. Go to hell moron. We are free to discuss things dissapasionately. Nobody advocating for violence. Just reading the tea leaves. I am here to help Njuri understand why Ruto will sleep like a baby with Ogolla Omondi as head of KDF.
Again the violence talk. Even with out neighbours fighting from Somalia, South Sudan , Ethipia and Sudan now you dont learn anything ?
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I need to do more research on Murle
The Nandi are a sub-tribe of the Kalenjin tribe and are known as a running community. They have a close relation with Murle of South Sudan
https://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane.blogspot.com/2013/08/murle-people-cattle-loving-warrior.html
Definitely kalenjin philosophy
hey also regard themselves as distinct from the people that live around them. At various times they have been at war with all of the surrounding tribes so they present a united front against what they regard as hostile neighbors. The people call themselves Murle and all other peoples are referred to as 'moden." The literal translation of this word is “enemy,” although it can also be translated as “strangers.”Even when the Murle are at peace with a given group of neighbors, they still refer to them as moden.
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Kalenjin is probably surmic language?
The Murle are a relatively new ethnic group in Sudan, having immigrated into the region from Ethiopia. The language they speak is from the Surmic language family - languages spoken primarily in southwest Ethiopia. There are three other Surmic speaking people groups presently living in the Sudan: the Didinga, the Longarim and the Tenet.
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These are our people
Murle has been portrayed as aggressors and formentors of trouble in Sudan by mostly Dinka and Nuer ethnic group that run affairs of the Sudan government but that is not true. "Local and national political discourses portray the Murle group as the main aggressors and the source of much of the instability affecting the state. Such Murle stereotypes are partially driven by concrete experiences, but are also largely manipulated to serve political purposes. Government control over the Murle community is reasserted and legitimised through a perpetrator narrative, which is a discourse sustained by prominent senior government officials, NGOs, media agencies and the general population“despite the reality of a politically and economically marginalised Murle” (Laudati, 2011: 21).
Mary Boyoi -
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Even Russia Ukraine should never have happened . Once war starts it evolves to other things . Kenya has not experienced one .
In 2007 it never reached to a civil war . You can never threaten people using war it has never worked anywhere .
Look at what happened to Yemen and Ethopia after many years of fighting they realise talking is the solution at what cost how many lives and livelihood have been lost .
So war talk or violence is only legal if its btw Ukraine and Russia. Go to hell moron. We are free to discuss things dissapasionately. Nobody advocating for violence. Just reading the tea leaves. I am here to help Njuri understand why Ruto will sleep like a baby with Ogolla Omondi as head of KDF.
Again the violence talk. Even with out neighbours fighting from Somalia, South Sudan , Ethipia and Sudan now you dont learn anything ?
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No coup will happen in Kenya. KDF is a disciplined outfit. No one tribe within the ranks has the means or capacity to pull off a well organized and successful coup without sirikal catching wind of it.
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On several occasions,I've stated no president has control in Kenya.You have kikuyu luo luhya kalenjin kamba somali i the police and army.In literal terms,everybody has access to weapons.The solution to this is peaceful resolution of disputes otherwise the country would plunge to chaos.I think uhuru sat down in september,accepted deafet,thought about the consequences and left in peace.The days of monopoly of violence are long gone.
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No coup will happen in Kenya. KDF is a disciplined outfit. No one tribe within the ranks has the means or capacity to pull off a well organized and successful coup without sirikal catching wind of it.
The west is too invested in kenya to allow it to collapse. If kenya collapses the whole of east and central africa will collapse. Kenya has passed the point of coups. What I can see though is an internal revolution of jobless, hungry, unemployed youth protesting and I really would welcome this if it was non-tribal, but a coup? nah
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I am Mr. Nice.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/president-ruto-my-inner-circle-rejected-general-francis-ogolla-as-kdf-chief-4235006