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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 12, 2023, 12:42:20 PM
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They are key cogs..the strategist of all the cattle theft..the real brains..not the politicians. Raiders just like warriors listen to their advise and must seek their blessings.They get largest share of the loot.In turn they invest in elaborate spying and intelligence on enemy or target..finally authorising raids when they sure of success..further reinforcing their aura.Koitalel was one such exceptional military strategist..Brits had no chance until they killed him
. In kipsigis cattle rustling reduced tremendously when all laibons were moved to lake Victoria Island. They are powerful in kalenjin society because they are also feared for they can kill or make you mad so no political player can go hard on them.In pokot they responsible for all raids.They spend all their time strategizing for raids because they great beneficiaries..all stolen cows are driven to them..they pick the best..leave the rest for raiders.They idle all day prophesying,thinking, spying and strategizing with clients...most raiders approach them..they advise them on logistics needed..when and how to strike.If they make too many mistakes and raiders get killed..they can also get killed so they are very meticulous with men and women spies..and will not aithorize any stupid raid.
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all this years and they have never embeded someone so as to get the full info on what really goes on????
Arresting random people is useless.
This is mafia and the only way to deal with it is create distrust among members
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It hard because laibons are hereditary.
all this years and they have never embeded someone so as to get the full info on what really goes on????
Arresting random people is useless.
This is mafia and the only way to deal with it is create distrust among members
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2.7. Diviners (Orkoiyot pl. Orkoik) This is an office that came to the Nandi and Kipsigis from their Maasai neigbours. The Maasai equivalent of Orkoiyot is Laibon. Kalenjin generally abhorred and respected the Orkoik at equal measure. They all came from the Talai clan and were believed to possess hereditary powers of divination and witchcraft. It is for this reason that Orkoik were isolated from the community and weren’t allowed to sit in any council. They came in handy during initiation ceremonies and during planning for war and raids. At the close of the 19th century, the Orkoiyot office almost took an executive role when Kimnyolei’s sons Kipchomber and Koitalel led the Kipsigis and the Nandi respectively to resist colonial rule (Anderson, 1993). Koitalel Arap Samoei was eventually killed by Richard Meinertzhagen (Ronoh, 2000). When the British imperialists came into contact with the Kalenjin, they mistakenly took the office of the Orkoiyot,to represent supreme authority in the land. In their quest to impose indirect rule, they appointed members of Orkoik family to be chiefs of their region. When approached by the British about the new leadership structure, the Kalenjin quickly accepted it since they were not quite sure of what the white man wanted to do with these individuals. They were willing to donate the least useful members of the society and Orkoik fitted the bill (Komma, 1992). Conflicts between the Orkoik and the community, especially on the Kipsigis side, finally led to collapse of indirect rule. The British had to choose other individuals.
Kalenjin community considered all men equal and only appointed individuals to office on ad-hoc basis.
These offices included those of ritual leaders, medicine men, elders of war and circumcision leaders (Komma, 1992). Once the activity attached to the office is done, the offices were disbanded and members went back to their trades for the rest of the year.
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Pkosing has said they have to do what Uganda did and it'll take about 15 years (put army base camps in that area for every 5 kilometers and be prepared to stay put for 15 years
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I agree. Army has to stay there permanently.
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Looks like they'll be more violence because Pkosing said 2000 animals were stolen from the pokots by the turkana and he basically hinted that if they are not returned, they will be trouble.
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The operations must extend to all tribes. It must be done until whole of northern kenya is free of small arms.
Looks like they'll be more violence because Pkosing said 2000 animals were stolen from the pokots by the turkana and he basically hinted that if they are not returned, they will be trouble.