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Title: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2023, 02:26:21 PM
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/divisions-in-odm-as-ruto-meets-raila-mps-at-state-house-4114728
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: sema on February 08, 2023, 12:01:25 AM
How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Kadudu on February 08, 2023, 12:08:52 AM
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 02:54:39 AM
How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Ruto finished kenyattas and his dynasties in August..they were rejected in every polling station.The rest are details. The system will do its job.KRA and others will keep sending love letters.Ruto has been very busy in Luo nyanza..the appointment of omollo and owalo...plus recruitment of ant odingas been going on.The luo nation will chose political silesia or to dump Raila.Nobody has directly gone for Raila luo const with this seriousness
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 02:56:21 AM
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
if you think gema elite or dynasties or homeguards still control the gema people then no wonder you've backed useless jakom all your life ending up bitter and cynical.Gema now is lead mostly by unknown leaders.First move happened in 2017...now it's completely done...anyone in gema can now lead it.The next five years Ruto will crush the dynasties business and illicit wealth.The hard part is done.The remaining work is kra,eacc and dci usual drill to follow the money trail
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 03:35:24 AM
Panicked Raila get joho n company as mbadi says he is also tired.Soon more luo nyanza leaders will be in Ruto camp than in odm https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/john-mbadi-you-can-take-my-job-as-odm-chairman--4115162
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 03:55:01 AM
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Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 03:57:07 AM
its the other way round  GEMA rescued Ruto from a twin onslaught from Uhuru and Raila.
If it wasnt for GEMA Ruto would be in opposition now.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 03:57:44 AM
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Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 03:59:51 AM
Fortunately Ruto does not listen to him .
He advocated for violence as a means to win 2022 elections Ruto shunned it.
He advocated for handshake between Ruto and his role model Raila . Ruto has shunned it.
He hopes Ruto will abandon GEMA snd become Anti GEMA candidate fortunately Ruto is not as stupid like Raila.

Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:01:19 AM
its the other way round  GEMA rescued Ruto from a twin onslaught from Uhuru and Raila.
If it wasnt for GEMA Ruto would be in opposition now.

who started hustler revolution, who used his billions to fund the revolution,keeping thousands of leaders and churches on payroll,who led propaganda. Ruto.Who ensured new leaders were elected in 2017 to lay the foundations. Ruto did not become president by some luck.Ruto has carefully and meticulous planned his politics...winning despite uhuru betrayal
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:03:27 AM
GEMA rejected Uhuru for betraying them . Joining hands with Raila , same thing you have been advocating for.
If Ruto was to do an Uhuru and handshake Raila he will be a first term president will be home by 6 in the morning .

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Ruto finished kenyattas and his dynasties in August..they were rejected in every polling station.The rest are details. The system will do its job.KRA and others will keep sending love letters.Ruto has been very busy in Luo nyanza..the appointment of omollo and owalo...plus recruitment of ant odingas been going on.The luo nation will chose political silesia or to dump Raila.Nobody has directly gone for Raila luo const with this seriousness
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:03:51 AM
Fortunately Ruto does not listen to him .
He advocated for violence as a means to win 2022 elections Ruto shunned it.
He advocated for handshake between Ruto and his role model Raila . Ruto has shunned it.
He hopes Ruto will abandon GEMA snd become Anti GEMA candidate fortunately Ruto is not as stupid like Raila.

Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
yada yada..I have no problem with gema...have serious problem with it former tribalistic elite. You barely know Ruto.I have tracked Ruto political rise since 2001.Ruto knows me most likely because I rescued him from icc... helping expose lies like you emgage in.what have you ever done for Ruto .
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:07:30 AM


Not a first one , GEMA has always been voting against dynasties since 1992 elections .
Muhoho was defeated in 1992 , Uhuru Kenyatta was defeated in 1997 when he vies for MP.
 Uhuru in 2013 just like Ruto in 2022 happened to be the strongest candidate against their enemy Raila .
Just like 2013 in 2022 .GEMA didnt vote for Ruto they voted against Raila.
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
if you think gema elite or dynasties or homeguards still control the gema people then no wonder you've backed useless jakom all your life ending up bitter and cynical.Gema now is lead mostly by unknown leaders.First move happened in 2017...now it's completely done...anyone in gema can now lead it.The next five years Ruto will crush the dynasties business and illicit wealth.The hard part is done.The remaining work is kra,eacc and dci usual drill to follow the money trail
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:08:39 AM
GEMA rejected Uhuru for betraying them . Joining hands with Raila , same thing you have been advocating for.
If Ruto was to do an Uhuru and handshake Raila he will be a first term president will be home by 6 in the morning .

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Ruto finished kenyattas and his dynasties in August..they were rejected in every polling station.The rest are details. The system will do its job.KRA and others will keep sending love letters.Ruto has been very busy in Luo nyanza..the appointment of omollo and owalo...plus recruitment of ant odingas been going on.The luo nation will chose political silesia or to dump Raila.Nobody has directly gone for Raila luo const with this seriousness
Ruto will reach out because he must and secondly he can't go with 50 percent to next election. Ruto will handshake anyone willing to extend their hand including raila.He will not betray gems or kalenjin or anyone by doing that. We want bigger tent...Raila if he joins uda now..how can you chase him.What Ruto will not do is become equal to anybody..not raila..not Gachagua..he will be the big guy.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:09:59 AM


Not a first one , GEMA has always been voting against dynasties since 1992 elections .
Muhoho was defeated in 1992 , Uhuru Kenyatta was defeated in 1997 when he vies for MP.
 Uhuru in 2013 just like Ruto in 2022 happened to be the strongest candidate against their enemy Raila .
Just like 2013 in 2022 .GEMA didnt vote for Ruto they voted against Raila.
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
if you think gema elite or dynasties or homeguards still control the gema people then no wonder you've backed useless jakom all your life ending up bitter and cynical.Gema now is lead mostly by unknown leaders.First move happened in 2017...now it's completely done...anyone in gema can now lead it.The next five years Ruto will crush the dynasties business and illicit wealth.The hard part is done.The remaining work is kra,eacc and dci usual drill to follow the money trail
This was a rout driven by gema hustlers...last attempted by jm kariuki before kenyatta killed him.This was fundamental peasant revolution in mt kenya that saw kenyattas and all the homeguards sent home in every polling station .it didn't happen by chance. RUTO MADE IT HAPPEN. spending billions,  gazillion of hours and years to execute it.Now we ahift to Luo nyanza to finish odingaism
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:13:00 AM
If it is billions Uhuru and his co poured them in large numbers for Raila .
You praise Ruto , Ruto praises the lord and thanks GEMA .
He has been on record saying GEMA is the reason he became president .
And there was no revolution i was one who hoped it would happen but ot didnt winning by 200k is but being lucky indeee.
Ruto perfomed badly in Coast Ukambani, Maasai , Turkana , Kisii , Samburu , Pokot and North Eastern .


its the other way round  GEMA rescued Ruto from a twin onslaught from Uhuru and Raila.
If it wasnt for GEMA Ruto would be in opposition now.

who started hustler revolution, who used his billions to fund the revolution,keeping thousands of leaders and churches on payroll,who led propaganda. Ruto.Who ensured new leaders were elected in 2017 to lay the foundations. Ruto did not become president by some luck.Ruto has carefully and meticulous planned his politics...winning despite uhuru betrayal
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:14:53 AM
Watch Ruto dismantle odingas then years later come with usual excuses..while Ruto is making it happen with his time, money and brains.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:16:19 AM
If it is billions Uhuru and his co poured them in large numbers for Raila .
You praise Ruto , Ruto praises the lord and thanks GEMA .
He has been on record saying GEMA is the reason he became president .
And there was no revolution i was one who hoped it would happen but ot didnt winning by 200k is but being lucky indeee.
Ruto perfomed badly in Coast Ukambani, Maasai , Turkana , Kisii , Samburu , Pokot and North Eastern .


its the other way round  GEMA rescued Ruto from a twin onslaught from Uhuru and Raila.
If it wasnt for GEMA Ruto would be in opposition now.

who started hustler revolution, who used his billions to fund the revolution,keeping thousands of leaders and churches on payroll,who led propaganda. Ruto.Who ensured new leaders were elected in 2017 to lay the foundations. Ruto did not become president by some luck.Ruto has carefully and meticulous planned his politics...winning despite uhuru betrayal
Ruto won in battle for hearts n minds..he has direct injection in gema.First time ever.Uhuru rigged Ruto out in those areas.Those remote areas the prov administration rigged massively with Nis but failed to beat Ruto win with rigging strategy. I am not praising Ruto but I am helping you understand the terrific political talent he is having studied him the longest apart from rvhh.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:18:22 AM

Do you even know me to say who knows me and who doesnt ?

And yes yoi have an indeep mental problem with GEMA . Its all in you posts.
As for Ruto knowing you coz of hacking Witnesses email , I would say you almost jeopardized his case. Did he listen to you when you asked him to go for a referendumn and campaign against BBI ?
 
Fortunately Ruto does not listen to him .
He advocated for violence as a means to win 2022 elections Ruto shunned it.
He advocated for handshake between Ruto and his role model Raila . Ruto has shunned it.
He hopes Ruto will abandon GEMA snd become Anti GEMA candidate fortunately Ruto is not as stupid like Raila.

Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
yada yada..I have no problem with gema...have serious problem with it former tribalistic elite. You barely know Ruto.I have tracked Ruto political rise since 2001.Ruto knows me most likely because I rescued him from icc... helping expose lies like you emgage in.what have you ever done for Ruto .
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:21:05 AM

Do you even know me to say who knows me and who doesnt ?

And yes yoi have an indeep mental problem with GEMA . Its all in you posts.
As for Ruto knowing you coz of hacking Witnesses email , I would say you almost jeopardized his case. Did he listen to you when you asked him to go for a referendumn and campaign against BBI ?
 
Fortunately Ruto does not listen to him .
He advocated for violence as a means to win 2022 elections Ruto shunned it.
He advocated for handshake between Ruto and his role model Raila . Ruto has shunned it.
He hopes Ruto will abandon GEMA snd become Anti GEMA candidate fortunately Ruto is not as stupid like Raila.

Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
yada yada..I have no problem with gema...have serious problem with it former tribalistic elite. You barely know Ruto.I have tracked Ruto political rise since 2001.Ruto knows me most likely because I rescued him from icc... helping expose lies like you emgage in.what have you ever done for Ruto .
You're a nobody. I don't advice Ruto.i share my thoughts. BBI WAS INIMICAL TO RUTO Power play.Ruto fought it.The decoy about not opposing referendum is what you felt for.What an idiot.Ruto fought BBI smartly...financing the cases against it.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:23:34 AM
GEMA rejected Uhuru for betraying them . Joining hands with Raila , same thing you have been advocating for.
If Ruto was to do an Uhuru and handshake Raila he will be a first term president will be home by 6 in the morning .


Raila joined Jubilee and we left it to him . Same thing will happen to Ruto if Raila joins UDA.
If Ruto was stupid then he would have celebrated the more the merrier but he was wise he left Jubilee .
You neee to wake up and smell the coffee your opponent is Not GEMA but Raila . Raila will really disturb Ruto and Ruto needs all support from GEMA but the likes of you tribalists are making it harder for him .

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
Ruto finished kenyattas and his dynasties in August..they were rejected in every polling station.The rest are details. The system will do its job.KRA and others will keep sending love letters.Ruto has been very busy in Luo nyanza..the appointment of omollo and owalo...plus recruitment of ant odingas been going on.The luo nation will chose political silesia or to dump Raila.Nobody has directly gone for Raila luo const with this seriousness
Ruto will reach out because he must and secondly he can't go with 50 percent to next election. Ruto will handshake anyone willing to extend their hand including raila.He will not betray gems or kalenjin or anyone by doing that. We want bigger tent...Raila if he joins uda now..how can you chase him.What Ruto will not do is become equal to anybody..not raila..not Gachagua..he will be the big guy.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 08, 2023, 04:27:14 AM

So what was 1992 elections when There was a frenzy about Matiba . Once again I repeat GEMA did not vote Ruto they voted against Raila , Same with 2013 when they voted against Raila and made Uhuru president .
If it is billions Uhuru and Raila poured them and it didnt work .



Not a first one , GEMA has always been voting against dynasties since 1992 elections .
Muhoho was defeated in 1992 , Uhuru Kenyatta was defeated in 1997 when he vies for MP.
 Uhuru in 2013 just like Ruto in 2022 happened to be the strongest candidate against their enemy Raila .
Just like 2013 in 2022 .GEMA didnt vote for Ruto they voted against Raila.
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
if you think gema elite or dynasties or homeguards still control the gema people then no wonder you've backed useless jakom all your life ending up bitter and cynical.Gema now is lead mostly by unknown leaders.First move happened in 2017...now it's completely done...anyone in gema can now lead it.The next five years Ruto will crush the dynasties business and illicit wealth.The hard part is done.The remaining work is kra,eacc and dci usual drill to follow the money trail
This was a rout driven by gema hustlers...last attempted by jm kariuki before kenyatta killed him.This was fundamental peasant revolution in mt kenya that saw kenyattas and all the homeguards sent home in every polling station .it didn't happen by chance. RUTO MADE IT HAPPEN. spending billions,  gazillion of hours and years to execute it.Now we ahift to Luo nyanza to finish odingaism
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:27:55 AM
Ruto enemy remain a resurgence of kenyatta.Raila was their tool last year.Raila cannot mount a serious challenge without their money or support. Raila is smaller problem. Ruto is going for Luo nyanza. If you don't like them..too bad.They will join with all the tribes to make Ruto the life president eventually if he wants. 2027 is over.Ruto might be going for bigger things lol
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:29:35 AM

So what was 1992 elections when There was a frenzy about Matiba . Once again I repeat GEMA did not vote Ruto they voted against Raila , Same with 2013 when they voted against Raila and made Uhuru president .
If it is billions Uhuru and Raila poured them and it didnt work .



Not a first one , GEMA has always been voting against dynasties since 1992 elections .
Muhoho was defeated in 1992 , Uhuru Kenyatta was defeated in 1997 when he vies for MP.
 Uhuru in 2013 just like Ruto in 2022 happened to be the strongest candidate against their enemy Raila .
Just like 2013 in 2022 .GEMA didnt vote for Ruto they voted against Raila.
Leave Pundit to live in his own world. He will wake up when it is too late.

How has ruto finished gema? have the kenyatta's paid? have the ndegwa's paid? had kibicho paid? has murathe paid?
if you think gema elite or dynasties or homeguards still control the gema people then no wonder you've backed useless jakom all your life ending up bitter and cynical.Gema now is lead mostly by unknown leaders.First move happened in 2017...now it's completely done...anyone in gema can now lead it.The next five years Ruto will crush the dynasties business and illicit wealth.The hard part is done.The remaining work is kra,eacc and dci usual drill to follow the money trail
This was a rout driven by gema hustlers...last attempted by jm kariuki before kenyatta killed him.This was fundamental peasant revolution in mt kenya that saw kenyattas and all the homeguards sent home in every polling station .it didn't happen by chance. RUTO MADE IT HAPPEN. spending billions,  gazillion of hours and years to execute it.Now we ahift to Luo nyanza to finish odingaism
matiba didn't go beyond muranga and kiambu..or southern kikuyus. That was mostly a revolt against moi by all the big tribes.2022 was a peasant revolution in mt kenya. That bus is now heading to kisumu.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 04:34:41 AM
Ruto started peasant revolution in kalenjin sending moi and his allies to dustbin..few remained in 2007 but by 2013 they were all gone..kenyatta pleaded for mois and Ruto saved them.Now its 100 percent done.Then he moved to GEMA starting in 2015...finally finished the job in 2022.Only threat is resurgence of kenyatta.That is why they must be bankrupted. Now it's time to finish odinga right in Luo nyanza. Leave kalonzo to provide token opposition. Ruto could win 2027 with 80 percent against kalonzo 20 percent hehe. Then some people will suggest we remove term limits..we go to referendum and remove it.Power doesn't yield to sissies.
Title: Re: With gema rescued from kenyattas..Ruto moves to odingas
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2023, 11:00:30 AM
The last of Kenyatta defense give in?t=WpFCLds5B_4a6dPR-pRSvw&s=19