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Title: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 03:08:04 PM
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 30, 2023, 03:23:20 PM
Audit must be law for all high level civil servants. It must be random conducted by randomly selected audit firms. Lets not be like Pakistan where only a few pay taxes.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 03:32:20 PM
It mostly minister of finance who abuse his power to issue tax exemptions.
Audit must be law for all high level civil servants. It must be random conducted by randomly selected audit firms. Lets not be like Pakistan where only a few pay taxes.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Githunguri on January 30, 2023, 03:39:38 PM
Can he name the kenyatta companies which don't pay tax?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 03:56:43 PM
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 04:02:28 PM
NCBA.
I bet brookside
Can he name the kenyatta companies which don't pay tax?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 04:17:33 PM
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: patel on January 30, 2023, 05:00:12 PM
Funniest shit ever...yaani Kenyattas and Mois made their own law..these thieves should be exiled.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Kadudu on January 30, 2023, 05:56:28 PM
Ruto should first start with his friends like Mary Wambui and the new KRA chairman.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 30, 2023, 08:00:45 PM
Ruto should first start with his friends like Mary Wambui and the new KRA chairman.

EVERYBODY!!!
Especially the well connected should be randomly flagged by software and audited.
Otherwise it  will be a lost agenda.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: patel on January 30, 2023, 08:18:39 PM
Those are small thieves. Start with Moi and Kenyattas the rest will fall in place. Imagine criminal enterprise making own rules to exempt themselves from taxes while living large on tax payers maney...jameni these 2 families have no shame...zerooo...

Ruto should first start with his friends like Mary Wambui and the new KRA chairman.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 08:21:30 PM
Seeing online rumours that kenyatta need to pay 1.4 trillion in taxes
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 30, 2023, 08:43:37 PM
Those are small thieves. Start with Moi and Kenyattas the rest will fall in place. Imagine criminal enterprise making own rules to exempt themselves from taxes while living large on tax payers maney...jameni these 2 families have no shame...zerooo...

Ruto should first start with his friends like Mary Wambui and the new KRA chairman.

Its the same all over the world. Billionaires get so many tax write offs they barely pay any tax. And it is All legal.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2023, 08:49:35 PM
Ruto sending a warning that those who are going to agitate for non payment of taxes he will go after them.

If I were Ruto , I would let Raila be. He has been doing this since Kibakis time and it never took him anywhere .
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 08:57:55 PM
Ruto sending a warning that those who are going to agitate for non payment of taxes he will go after them.

If I were Ruto , I would let Raila be. He has been doing this since Kibakis time and it never took him anywhere .
Your can't bring yourself to mention uhuru.Itumbi is Ruto mouthpiece. Ruto gave public warning to kenyatta. Raila is old fool best ignored unless he start violence. Ruto has to focus on kenyatta and mois...destroy their ill gotten wealth which they will use to finance anti Ruto politics.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 30, 2023, 09:05:44 PM
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Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 30, 2023, 09:18:04 PM


Why do you think so ? To me Uhuru is like Raila , He betrayed our mission when he did the handshake , by then you were still his supporter thinking he is playing Raila.
If Ruto today was to do a handshake with Raila I will look at him the same way I look at Uhuru and Raila.
I distate politics of betrayal.


Ruto sending a warning that those who are going to agitate for non payment of taxes he will go after them.

If I were Ruto , I would let Raila be. He has been doing this since Kibakis time and it never took him anywhere .
Your can't bring yourself to mention uhuru.Itumbi is Ruto mouthpiece. Ruto gave public warning to kenyatta. Raila is old fool best ignored unless he start violence. Ruto has to focus on kenyatta and mois...destroy their ill gotten wealth which they will use to finance anti Ruto politics.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: sema on January 30, 2023, 09:53:46 PM
My question is how will Ruto make them pay taxes? These guys have been stealing since independence and they have sophisticated bankers and lawyers helping them hide their loot. Their money is not sitting in Equity Bank in Githunguri.

So, what is Ruto's specific plan?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Fairandbalanced on January 30, 2023, 10:08:11 PM
How did Ruto acquire his wealth? How much in taxes has he paid?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Wa Njambi on January 31, 2023, 02:23:51 AM
By selling Chickens and other hustles silly!...Lol...don't try to flip the debate to create confusion. Ruto would not be this serious if he knew that KRA had something on Him. Don't try to defend the Kenyatta's because he's a fellow Okuuyo. Majority of Kikuyus though poor pay Taxes.

These guys should consider bargaining with KRA and start a clean slate

How did Ruto acquire his wealth? How much in taxes has he paid?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 31, 2023, 03:29:45 AM

Ruto being a politician is playing politics . The same instruments which were used to try and silence him are the same weapons he will try to use against his opponents .
Now as for Uhuru  Raila Moi and their surrogates let them pay Taxes and this should not be exclusive to them even Ruto surrogates should pay taxes. It can backfire seeing the liquor man and Gachagua taxes cases being dropped in Courts while Azimio and Murathe tax cases being expedited in courts .


By selling Chickens and other hustles silly!...Lol...don't try to flip the debate to create confusion. Ruto would not be this serious if he knew that KRA had something on Him. Don't try to defend the Kenyatta's because he's a fellow Okuuyo. Majority of Kikuyus though poor pay Taxes.

These guys should consider bargaining with KRA and start a clean slate

How did Ruto acquire his wealth? How much in taxes has he paid?
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 04:41:50 AM
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/kenya-kwanza-senators-demand-probe-into-kenyatta-family-tax-waivers-land--4105248
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 04:57:54 AM
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Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Fairandbalanced on January 31, 2023, 05:36:02 AM
Tax and spend, the age old formula that has failed everywhere. They are going to tax Kenyans to death so asshole MCAs can spend weeks on the beach and trips abroad? The biggest problem in Kenya is corruption followed closely by spending and wastage. We said Ruto has zero vision, he is young in age but is geriatric in politics. I hope Raila can sustain the pressure, his movement will only grow as soon as they start emptying everyone’s pockets with zero results.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on January 31, 2023, 09:11:48 AM
We are getting inside a period where Ruto should honor his biggest promise,lower cost of living,there is some disgruntling already people think he is losing focus. Ruto should do this first then go after Kenyattas no one will care but if he goes after Kenyatta without lowering cost of living it will backfire seriously.
Ruto need stay focused he has time to deal with Kenyattas later.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
We are getting inside a period where Ruto should honor his biggest promise,lower cost of living,there is some disgruntling already people think he is losing focus. Ruto should do this first then go after Kenyattas no one will care but if he goes after Kenyatta without lowering cost of living it will backfire seriously.
Ruto need stay focused he has time to deal with Kenyattas later.
Gov can do many things simultaneously...Kenyattas without power are useless...Ruto should just set Gachagua on him...so he cannot run to tribal cocoon.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Kadudu on January 31, 2023, 12:11:54 PM
Mary Wambui aka Wambui wa Ruto, has a tax case with KRA for over 1.2B Ksh and the KRA chairman over 200M Ksh and you tell us these are small thieves

Those are small thieves. Start with Moi and Kenyattas the rest will fall in place. Imagine criminal enterprise making own rules to exempt themselves from taxes while living large on tax payers maney...jameni these 2 families have no shame...zerooo...
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Kadudu on January 31, 2023, 12:23:03 PM
Noway, when you are not discussing about Russia and Ukraine, you make a lot of sense.

Ruto is a man sitting in a glass house and busy throwing stones. Let all pay taxes. Uhuru's people and Ruto#s too. This kind of selection will go nowhere. Ruto too like Uhuru has offshore accounts. Where do you think all the Eurobonds went to? Was Uhuru alone in those schemes? Ruto too has real estate in UAE like many politicians in Kenya today. The man should focus and stop playing petty politics.

Also those UDA senators should start focusing on the problems facing the people right now. Chasing after Uhuru is just a mirage. Most of these fellows like Gachagua looted under Uhuru to become very rich and are now busy pointing fingers at him.


Ruto being a politician is playing politics . The same instruments which were used to try and silence him are the same weapons he will try to use against his opponents .
Now as for Uhuru  Raila Moi and their surrogates let them pay Taxes and this should not be exclusive to them even Ruto surrogates should pay taxes. It can backfire seeing the liquor man and Gachagua taxes cases being dropped in Courts while Azimio and Murathe tax cases being expedited in courts .
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 12:53:23 PM
Ruto has said everyone including himself will pay their taxes. If you know of any tax exemption granted so far go ahead and name them. Exclude the weaponized KRA war on certain individuals who supported Ruto.

Noway, when you are not discussing about Russia and Ukraine, you make a lot of sense.

Ruto is a man sitting in a glass house and busy throwing stones. Let all pay taxes. Uhuru's people and Ruto#s too. This kind of selection will go nowhere. Ruto too like Uhuru has offshore accounts. Where do you think all the Eurobonds went to? Was Uhuru alone in those schemes? Ruto too has real estate in UAE like many politicians in Kenya today. The man should focus and stop playing petty politics.

Also those UDA senators should start focusing on the problems facing the people right now. Chasing after Uhuru is just a mirage. Most of these fellows like Gachagua looted under Uhuru to become very rich and are now busy pointing fingers at him.


Ruto being a politician is playing politics . The same instruments which were used to try and silence him are the same weapons he will try to use against his opponents .
Now as for Uhuru  Raila Moi and their surrogates let them pay Taxes and this should not be exclusive to them even Ruto surrogates should pay taxes. It can backfire seeing the liquor man and Gachagua taxes cases being dropped in Courts while Azimio and Murathe tax cases being expedited in courts .
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 31, 2023, 02:16:42 PM
Tax and spend, the age old formula that has failed everywhere. They are going to tax Kenyans to death so asshole MCAs can spend weeks on the beach and trips abroad? The biggest problem in Kenya is corruption followed closely by spending and wastage. We said Ruto has zero vision, he is young in age but is geriatric in politics. I hope Raila can sustain the pressure, his movement will only grow as soon as they start emptying everyone’s pockets with zero results.

I agree
If someone measured their accomplishments, youll find very little.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: sema on January 31, 2023, 02:51:20 PM
The biggest problem in kenya is lack of production. it's a problem throughout AFrica. Africans NEED to start making things. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? you cannot develop or become richer without manufacturing goods.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 31, 2023, 03:10:21 PM
The biggest problem in kenya is lack of production. it's a problem throughout AFrica. Africans NEED to start making things. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? you cannot develop or become richer without manufacturing goods.

Economics ya mawe.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 04:07:30 PM
Producing houses is same as producing a car.
Economics ya mawe.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 07:21:45 PM
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: Georgesoros on January 31, 2023, 07:43:50 PM

EVERYBODY needs to be audited. Ruto should be first. Otherwise its called political witch-hunt.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: RV Pundit on January 31, 2023, 08:58:08 PM
Uhuru audited Ruto. Ruto will audit Kenyatta. That is everyone. UDA were taken through audit last 5yrs. Now it Azimio turn.
EVERYBODY needs to be audited. Ruto should be first. Otherwise its called political witch-hunt.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: hk on February 01, 2023, 05:20:08 AM
The most blatant tax exemption granted to the kenyattas was the cba nic merger tax exemption https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/nic-cba-bank-merger-exempted-from-paying-millions-in-share-sale-tax-2261420  . The stamp duty exempted is roughly 350m -400m , other than question of fairness and cronyism, this isn't a loophole is going to plug kenya's budget deficit.
The main issue should be changing the tax policy to encourage production not the political sideshows now playing out.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: gout on February 01, 2023, 01:57:03 PM
They need to be kept busy with tribunals, courts not this war of words.

Uhuru audited Ruto. Ruto will audit Kenyatta. That is everyone. UDA were taken through audit last 5yrs. Now it Azimio turn.
EVERYBODY needs to be audited. Ruto should be first. Otherwise its called political witch-hunt.
Title: Re: Ruto warn Kenyattas and Mois to prepare to pay tax
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 01, 2023, 04:09:59 PM
I hope he can take one serious advice for Atieno Auma Ndii. Fo not personalize nationals issues and fights. Anyway ruto is walking into uhuru and raila trap of disrupting. he is now all over. unfocused. I am sure cartels are now busy regrouping and stealing. mid this year scandals will start raining from each corner and famine will resume with a vengeance making kenyans even more bitter and alienated