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Title: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 18, 2023, 02:37:14 PM
LOL..KENYA Kuna vituko

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https://theiebcwhistleblower.org/

apparently there is special ops going on to challenge the credibility of 2022 elections. Smith Jeffrey T of vanguard Africa is in the middle of this fray. ruto noise yesterday was to try to preempt this

Raila is hiding in South Africa

this actually a bigger story than I thought it would have been. seems raila was being asked to eat and keep quite but as usual raila na fujo ni twins. he unleashed the bomb and went to hide in Cape Town.

Kenya Tamu kabisa
 
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2023, 04:19:07 PM
Nonsense. Ruto should form commission of inquiry to recommend criminal prosecutions
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 18, 2023, 06:24:04 PM
Nonsense. Ruto should form commission of inquiry to recommend criminal prosecutions

won't happen.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Wa Njambi on January 18, 2023, 08:12:49 PM
Njamba - Do you the Kikuyu phrase "Kuruga Urimu..." stirring the pot of Upuzi. That's what our guy has been sent to do...stirring the pot to blur the issue that Ruto raised the day other day. These guys know that the plot they had on IEBC-3 is at the door of prosecution. Should it get in front of a judge, they cannot predict the outcome.

Nonsense. Ruto should form commission of inquiry to recommend criminal prosecutions

won't happen.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 18, 2023, 08:23:00 PM
Njamba - Do you the Kikuyu phrase "Kuruga Urimu..." stirring the pot of Upuzi. That's what our guy has been sent to do...stirring the pot to blur the issue that Ruto raised the day other day. These guys know that the plot they had on IEBC-3 is at the door of prosecution. Should it get in front of a judge, they cannot predict the outcome.

Nonsense. Ruto should form commission of inquiry to recommend criminal prosecutions

won't happen.

both camps are engaged is kuruga urimu na nyungu...Kenya is crime scene my brother. a period of blood letting is about to commence. new iebc crew will be appointed on a dry river bed of violence
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2023, 08:38:08 PM
Njamba - Do you the Kikuyu phrase "Kuruga Urimu..." stirring the pot of Upuzi. That's what our guy has been sent to do...stirring the pot to blur the issue that Ruto raised the day other day. These guys know that the plot they had on IEBC-3 is at the door of prosecution. Should it get in front of a judge, they cannot predict the outcome.

Nonsense. Ruto should form commission of inquiry to recommend criminal prosecutions

won't happen.

both camps are engaged is kuruga urimu na nyungu...Kenya is crime scene my brother. a period of blood letting is about to commence. new iebc crew will be appointed on a dry river bed of violence
Dream on.Ruto firmly charged.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 18, 2023, 09:22:59 PM
Njamba is right , Raila is planning for another BBI and constituency boundaries has to be done this period.
There will be lots of protests until he gets his wishes .
Ruto has handled him well so far. If he starts listening to the likes of Pundit he will be in a big hole.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 18, 2023, 11:36:02 PM
Njamba is right , Raila is planning for another BBI and constituency boundaries has to be done this period.
There will be lots of protests until he gets his wishes .
Ruto has handled him well so far. If he starts listening to the likes of Pundit he will be in a big hole.
Ruto doesn't listen to me...I listen to him.He is a consummate political player. I am not advisor but a Pundit..analyst.Ruto listen wakina murkomen
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: lelewela on January 19, 2023, 12:47:31 AM
Kioni is an Idiot, with all state machinery you have lost instead of going silent and admiring how they were beaten by Ruto  :D

I was part of the UDA election team dealing with agents, and I remember even they blocked all accounts of UDA bigwigs . But they were shocked the somali pirate Nassir lent millions to Ruto in cash  for the agents:)
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Wa Njambi on January 19, 2023, 04:12:52 AM
Nowayhaha - Ngai!, Ati BBI??? Baba atarudia BBI na Reggae na Canaan na Court cases  referendum, plus dealing with ODM possible rebellion and normal ODM nomination mess, and GOK is not bankrolling him this time around. Lol  Somebody tell Baba that 60 months is not a long time away, and certainly not the time to try the same failed projects. Even within ODM, there will certainly be Raila fatigue sooner than later. 

Njamba is right , Raila is planning for another BBI and constituency boundaries has to be done this period.
There will be lots of protests until he gets his wishes .
Ruto has handled him well so far. If he starts listening to the likes of Pundit he will be in a big hole.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 19, 2023, 05:21:04 AM
BBI failed last time for the same reasons you have given. Handshake deceived Raila and by the time even Uhuru decided to bu the idea and protect his wealth it was too late. Ruto wanted to deceive him again using different tricks , so far he has refused .
BBI failed because Government was involved and wasnt keen in a referendum at begining
Secondly the miscalculated with the Courts.
Now about  ODM , Raila is ODM and ODM is Raila.
On IEBC , If you have studied Railas journey you would know that he always want to be part an parcel of the Elections Body . He was the sole FORD member talking of constitution of ECK back in 1992 , he was instrumental in IPPG which then Moi gave in and they had a say in the representation of ECK by 2002. He tried the same Karua showed him the middle finger in 2007 .In 2013 as Prime Minister in Grand coalition he single handedly picked the members . In 2017 he fought tooth and nail to have IEBC reconstituted , In 2017 he had a hand in ensuring the 4 sleepers were part of IEBC . Raila will cause havoc or sell his soul to have a say in 2027 IEBC.
With Ruto on the dire need of rescuing the economy it will depend on how he handles him. I opine Ruto should use the courts and not force to cut Raila into shape . One thing Raila respects is the courts and international communities . He goes against the courts he becomes a pariah and the international community deciphers him .


Nowayhaha - Ngai!, Ati BBI??? Baba atarudia BBI na Reggae na Canaan na Court cases  referendum, plus dealing with ODM possible rebellion and normal ODM nomination mess, and GOK is not bankrolling him this time around. Lol  Somebody tell Baba that 60 months is not a long time away, and certainly not the time to try the same failed projects. Even within ODM, there will certainly be Raila fatigue sooner than later. 

Njamba is right , Raila is planning for another BBI and constituency boundaries has to be done this period.
There will be lots of protests until he gets his wishes .
Ruto has handled him well so far. If he starts listening to the likes of Pundit he will be in a big hole.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2023, 05:31:29 AM
Ufool fake system just getting jittery ?t=KmgeBkp5inOidjk1wW31ag&s=19
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 19, 2023, 05:37:32 AM
BBI failed last time for the same reasons you have given. Handshake deceived Raila and by the time even Uhuru decided to bu the idea and protect his wealth it was too late. Ruto wanted to deceive him again using different tricks , so far he has refused .
BBI failed because Government was involved and wasnt keen in a referendum at begining
Secondly the miscalculated with the Courts.
Now about  ODM , Raila is ODM and ODM is Raila.
On IEBC , If you have studied Railas journey you would know that he always want to be part an parcel of the Elections Body . He was the sole FORD member talking of constitution of ECK back in 1992 , he was instrumental in IPPG which then Moi gave in and they had a say in the representation of ECK by 2002. He tried the same Karua showed him the middle finger in 2007 .In 2013 as Prime Minister in Grand coalition he single handedly picked the members . In 2017 he fought tooth and nail to have IEBC reconstituted , In 2017 he had a hand in ensuring the 4 sleepers were part of IEBC . Raila will cause havoc or sell his soul to have a say in 2027 IEBC.
With Ruto on the dire need of rescuing the economy it will depend on how he handles him. I opine Ruto should use the courts and not force to cut Raila into shape . One thing Raila respects is the courts and international communities . He goes against the courts he becomes a pariah and the international community deciphers him .


Nowayhaha - Ngai!, Ati BBI??? Baba atarudia BBI na Reggae na Canaan na Court cases  referendum, plus dealing with ODM possible rebellion and normal ODM nomination mess, and GOK is not bankrolling him this time around. Lol  Somebody tell Baba that 60 months is not a long time away, and certainly not the time to try the same failed projects. Even within ODM, there will certainly be Raila fatigue sooner than later. 

Njamba is right , Raila is planning for another BBI and constituency boundaries has to be done this period.
There will be lots of protests until he gets his wishes .
Ruto has handled him well so far. If he starts listening to the likes of Pundit he will be in a big hole.
Ruto will pick all the 7 iebc commissioners because Raila has no moral authority after cherror four and bomas rigging attempts. 2027 is over this year.I suspect Bomas inquiry will soon concide with selection and appointment of new IEBC to neutralise Raila shenanigans. Raila definitely know IEBC reconstruction is end game for 2027 and will try usual subversion but Ruto is many steps ahead.If Uhuru bring nyefnyef too...state capture inquiry is a sword hanging over his head.So far Raila has failed yo save cherror four as evidence of Raila funding and directing them is overwhelming. Ruto is waiting for conclusion of tribunal then iebc is reconstituted. Then focus shift to 2032 and beyond...
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on January 19, 2023, 06:16:25 PM
Baba had no votes in Central.  He wasted too much time chasing those while ignoring Bungoma(a "bird in hand").  He wins Bungoma, he wins it all.  He should be going after his strategists.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 05:58:04 AM
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Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 05:59:13 AM
Baba had no votes in Central.  He wasted too much time chasing those while ignoring Bungoma(a "bird in hand").  He wins Bungoma, he wins it all.  He should be going after his strategists.

jubilee claims they won central and the votes were rigged. let me find kioni today's lamentations
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 06:04:28 AM
here is kioni. I wonder why the whole briefing is not being posted
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 07:56:09 AM
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 20, 2023, 07:59:54 AM
The whole drama is desperate attempt by Azimio to block the new IEBC selection. Ruto will shortly sign the law and appointment of six will start pending Masit case.Expect more drama.Ruto should form inquiry into Bomas kidnapping, killing and all criminal activities...line these Azimio morons for questioning and criminal prosecution
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 08:03:48 AM
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes ibec whistle-blower super thread
Post by: Nowayhaha on January 20, 2023, 08:44:06 AM
Raila lost like he lost in 2017,2013 and 2007.
2017 elections results made Many Raila supporters have a closure that Raila lost 2007 to Kibaki fair and square.
One of the reason Ruto was received warmly in Luo Nyanza.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 20, 2023, 09:56:40 AM
You need closure of 2007 more than Raila need.
Raila lost like he lost in 2017,2013 and 2007.
2017 elections results made Many Raila supporters have a closure that Raila lost 2007 to Kibaki fair and square.
One of the reason Ruto was received warmly in Luo Nyanza.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on January 20, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
Well they surely are cooking something them Azimio guys
Possibly maandamano and civil disobedience to keep mzito busy.
Thats why Mzito dependence on mlima is critical and a matter of life or death.
Kibaki won by 28,000 votes in 2007,
Yes Luos have accepted indeed Kibaki won then.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 20, 2023, 01:02:49 PM
The prize is re-constitution of IEBC.
They know Ruto will have his way.
They want to try to force some negotiation.
But they are tactically disadvantaged.

They will unleash more threats and violence - but Azimio folks are tired - they long gave up - they are finished.

Ruto should plan to unveil Bomas Inquiry to concede with selection of new IEBC.
The kionis and their paymasters should appear before Miguna Miguna led inquiry.

That should get Azimio back to sense.

After new IEBC is formed....2032 is next election Njuri.
Raila knows better than stand in 2027.

Cherorror four made huge blunder....they should have stayed on for the future.

Now Ruto get to pick 7 of his men and women to run IEBC. I dont see any AZIMIO getting picked.

Well they surely are cooking something them Azimio guys
Possibly maandamano and civil disobedience to keep mzito busy.
Thats why Mzito dependence on mlima is critical and a matter of life or death.
Kibaki won by 28,000 votes in 2007,
Yes Luos have accepted indeed Kibaki won then.

Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 04:59:17 PM
luo nation has some good new young political scientist. a fresh perspective. the good thing is that these youngins..are on the ground. they are close to the power brokers and have intelligence to collect very useful information on a first hand basis. Youtube has given them a platform. it is good to see this it is breath of fresh air. you watch the analysis and it gets you thinking


Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 05:03:49 PM
This Kenya Tamu sana guys is funny as hell
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 06:12:59 PM
Kenya Tamu really things are moving like lightning shot to the heart
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 20, 2023, 07:29:23 PM
Kenya Tamu Sana
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 21, 2023, 07:25:43 PM
Wa Njambi..I am counting on you to be there for mass action
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Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Stockguru on January 22, 2023, 05:41:10 PM
Catholic Bishops want to hoodwink Kenyas. It is not going to happen

Ruto is back in the streets fighting for legitimacy.  The debate is on some people with their arrogance think they are the ones that will dictate the political agenda 





JESEE MUCHOKI
18 hours ago
The guilty are afraid.  It's always okay and healthy for people to express their views because they are not gagged and people should tolerate one another. This country needs a national conversation  around the conduct of our elections  past election and future elections with openness and fix all that need to be done. The other question one should ask is whether there's peace  with everyone or maybe some people are just silent waiting for  an opportunity to kindle the gas container. From where I sit opposition seems to have decided to move on but the government side are yet and are persistently rattling a sleeping opposition instead of uniting the country. I remember during president  Uhuru second term the more they pushed his deputy the more Ruto became popular under sympathy grounds and even now the more president Ruto's government hit Raila the more he becomes popular and the way the hustlers feel like they were taken for granted by Kenya kwanza. What goes round comes back. We need a serene place but there are people out trying to stir the mad as much Kenyans are refusing to provoked. The church too seems to have lost the core call and they've lost the noble job. The church watch itself not to become  mundane as is opposed to be heavenly because God  will be very unhappy to his shepherds responsible . May the good Lord redeem his church that he bought with a price. I wish the president works for discernment and with a  conciliatory heart and lead by example without sparing even his troops too who are pulling everyone back every time with hurting remarks. A bird you release may be caught again but a word that passes your lips will never return. A tongue has no bone but it's strong to demolish anything even a kingdom.   When the government uses derogatory remarks against Uhuru or Raila maybe almost half of the country goes mad and feels charged with worst thoughts and readily energized to react to the incitement. Let's all show love by calling for unity for purpose, we only have one country.That's my take around it.

Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 22, 2023, 05:49:59 PM
Catholic Bishops want to hoodwink Kenyas. It is not going to happen

Ruto is back in the streets fighting for legitimacy.  The debate is on some people with their arrogance think they are the ones that will dictate the political agenda 





uhuru  is trying to forestall bomas tribunal to escape criminal responsibility...so this muddying of waters.Ruto will crack the whip.Economy is now stable
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Stockguru on January 22, 2023, 06:11:06 PM

Uhuru refuses to take Ruto's bait. My cousin is spending his retirement in Narok and is playing his constitutional role as a retired president. He is happy and not bothered. His conscience is clean. The weight of the nation lifted off his shoulders. His worries rested.

However, there is a character that is addicted to dopamine of sympathy and is looking for more sympathy. He wakes up everyday dreaming of how he can get my cousin in the mud again the dirty each other. My cousin was born a good happy lucky man. He loves his peace and would like to continue enjoying it
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 22, 2023, 06:18:30 PM

Uhuru refuses to take Ruto's bait. My cousin is spending his retirement in Narok and is playing his constitutional role as a retired president. He is happy and not bothered. His conscience is clean. The weight of the nation lifted off his shoulders. His worries rested.

However, there is a character that is addicted to dopamine of sympathy and is looking for more sympathy. He wakes up everyday dreaming of how he can get my cousin in the mud again the dirty each other. My cousin was born a good happy lucky man. He loves his peace and would like to continue enjoying it
He run out of lucky when he dared the lion of sugoi.....The sympathy and humility is cover for the heavy punches coming uhuru way.Its an alibi.Continue crying. RUTO will not be distracted...by cries.Gov candidate rigged out...Comedy Central.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: Stockguru on January 23, 2023, 02:29:29 AM

Raila has spoken. he accuses the international companies being used to electronically circumvent the will of the people

Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: audacityofhope on January 23, 2023, 07:07:45 AM
Kioni is an Idiot, with all state machinery you have lost instead of going silent and admiring how they were beaten by Ruto  :D

I was part of the UDA election team dealing with agents, and I remember even they blocked all accounts of UDA bigwigs . But they were shocked the somali pirate Nassir lent millions to Ruto in cash  for the agents:)
If you have to mention a name then back it up with some evidence. How come thus far President Ruto has not rewarded him with a post like he has done for most of his cronies the likes of Aisha Jumwa?
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 23, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
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Kinoti, uhuru when are they going to fix roads, bring cosg of living down and give hustlers loans to start micro businesses? kila wakati ni munguniko kama Fisichella. my cousin is just laughing wondering what kind of bangi is gachagua and ruto smoking
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 23, 2023, 08:16:35 AM
Raila Sabc interview
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 23, 2023, 08:44:42 PM
analysis of today's kamukunji rally
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: sema on January 23, 2023, 09:40:44 PM
Kioni is actually mild compared to Martha Karua.  Have you seen her tweets? The woman has gone completely bonkers. Kenya truly dodged a bombshell by not electing that duo of raila and martha.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 23, 2023, 09:51:27 PM
Kioni is actually mild compared to Martha Karua.  Have you seen her tweets? The woman has gone completely bonkers. Kenya truly dodged a bombshell by not electing that duo of raila and martha.

Martha karua is stubborn as mule. if she is convinced ruto stole she will die fighting him
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 23, 2023, 10:07:26 PM
Technology has devolved freedom. I love this gallant Nubians. they match forward and never retreat. siasa ni moto
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 24, 2023, 12:20:55 AM
the pressure on raila for handchieth is very much. mzee refused to crack
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: gout on January 24, 2023, 08:54:24 AM
After some age, picking losing sides becomes a lifetime disability. Just keeps deteriorating.  Ticks who benefit from your outrageous nonsense will continue to encourage you and laugh at you at midnight.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: RV Pundit on January 24, 2023, 10:08:35 AM
Yes a few remaining vultures and hyena are feeding on jakom corpse. He is now a national shame.
After some age, picking losing sides becomes a lifetime disability. Just keeps deteriorating.  Ticks who benefit from your outrageous nonsense will continue to encourage you and laugh at you at midnight.
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 26, 2023, 05:26:49 AM

Raila is out making his case. He seems to be fired up
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 27, 2023, 07:42:58 PM
storming usa embassyxon the cards. what a moment. raila is smoking everyone out of their foxhole
Title: Re: kioni is still counting votes
Post by: KenyanPlato on January 30, 2023, 04:31:08 AM
Raila gives UN two weeks to intervene