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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 01:48:34 PM

Title: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 01:48:34 PM
Look like Mois playbook - all key deputies will be jini ya maji

Al most 1/4 of them are Kalenjin

At least my friend Festus Ngeno made it - and my mentor Paul Ronoh too

Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Fairandbalanced on November 02, 2022, 02:01:01 PM
Again, why does something like this make you so proud? Like you said, he is using Moi’s playbook, why is this a good thing? It did not work the first time.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Kadudu on November 02, 2022, 02:01:24 PM
It is our turn to eat. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 02:06:12 PM
The list is heavy kalenjin+GEMA - plus somalis/boranas.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 02:06:50 PM
I didnt say I am proud except for people I know who got it.
I think Ruto failed the constitutional test here.
The list simply doesnt reflect the face of kenya.
Again, why does something like this make you so proud? Like you said, he is using Moi’s playbook, why is this a good thing? It did not work the first time.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Kadudu on November 02, 2022, 02:12:57 PM
Does the list have to reflect the face of Kenya?
Ruto is old school and that is why he will use the old curriculum of Arap Moi. In the end the big dockets like Foreign Affairs, Finance, Defence, Roads, Energy and Internal Security will end up either having a Kalejin as Cs or PS. In some cases both.

Mta do?

I didnt say I am proud except for people I know who got it.
I think Ruto failed the constitutional test here.
The list simply doesnt reflect the face of kenya.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Kadudu on November 02, 2022, 02:15:49 PM
Btw Pundit, how did you miss being on this list? As ann educated Kale your chances were almost 80% of landing a state job. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 02:27:54 PM
This wont be vetted so we cant do much except pray they deliver.  The good thing they are no illeterates like Moi era. Most have Phds.
Does the list have to reflect the face of Kenya?
Ruto is old school and that is why he will use the old curriculum of Arap Moi. In the end the big dockets like Foreign Affairs, Finance, Defence, Roads, Energy and Internal Security will end up either having a Kalejin as Cs or PS. In some cases both.

Mta do?
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 02:30:50 PM
Okay they will go through parliament.
Then we can hear more about %
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: KenyanPlato on November 02, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
I thought some guy told me PSs had security of tenure and were hired by psc and couldn't be fired by president willy nilly
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
Not even a minister has security of tenure. Independent commissions, judiciary, police head, central bank - those have security of tenure - for 4 or 8yrs
I thought some guy told me PSs had security of tenure and were hired by psc and couldn't be fired by president willy nilly
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: gout on November 02, 2022, 02:59:56 PM
Muhati and Omollo are surprises.

Hinga knows this affordable housing stuff - a way to check on that Northlands behemoth.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 06:07:12 PM
Yeah look like he totally forget about big tribes like Gusii
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 06:34:58 PM
Look like Adan Mohammed is back as Economic Advisor

Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: sema on November 02, 2022, 07:47:46 PM
Kenya is totally tribal. Does Ruto not trust anyone else?  Also, what is it that principal secretaries do exactly?
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: lelewela on November 02, 2022, 07:57:33 PM
Wondering why Ledama put Hersama in the list of Somali , he is a cross of Rendile and Samburu.  Mohamed Dhagar is a relative of a relative of Musa Arabella a Rendile .

So ledama is nit truthful here. Kenya is tribal country, so we need people who are loyal to the President jini ya maji, and Ruto did  a balanced PS appointment compared to the last presidents (Uhuru, Kibaki , Moi and Kenyatta)

Yeah look like he totally forget about big tribes like Gusii
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 08:38:05 PM
Big ommission is Kuria-Gusii - he need to fix that - and throw a few more for the coast.  Way too many kalenjin but I guess there is loyalty
Wondering why Ledama put Hersama in the list of Somali , he is a cross of Rendile and Samburu.  Mohamed Dhagar is a relative of a relative of Musa Arabella a Rendile .

So ledama is nit truthful here. Kenya is tribal country, so we need people who are loyal to the President jini ya maji, and Ruto did  a balanced PS appointment compared to the last presidents (Uhuru, Kibaki , Moi and Kenyatta)

Yeah look like he totally forget about big tribes like Gusii
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 11:46:16 PM
Ruto will look at today and realize it when rain started beating. He needs to quickly fix this in next appointment - compensate the other tribes with big positions.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 11:50:48 PM
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 02, 2022, 11:58:29 PM
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 03, 2022, 12:18:29 AM
Okay my bad - there is a Kuria -  Joseph Mugosi Mutavi -

Biggest omission remain Kisii and Nyamira.

Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 03, 2022, 12:25:23 AM
My suggestions follow up with one Gusii appointment of any shade anywhere :) - as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Githunguri on November 03, 2022, 01:43:38 PM
GOVERMENT of Kikuyus and kalenjins
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Kadudu on November 03, 2022, 01:49:46 PM
Nothing new. This has been the case since 2013.
Others will have to wait till 2042 when Gachagua would have served his 2nd and last term.

GOVERMENT of Kikuyus and kalenjins
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Githunguri on November 03, 2022, 01:53:02 PM
Nothing new. This has been the case since 2013.
Others will have to wait till 2042 when Gachagua would have served his 2nd and last term.

GOVERMENT of Kikuyus and kalenjins

That's why Uhuru refused this NONSENSE that has been going on for over 60 years.

It's time we have secession referendums.This is colonisation.

No GOVERMENT without representation.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 03, 2022, 02:14:58 PM
Nyamira has no cs or ps. Ruto has to fix that.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Kadudu on November 03, 2022, 02:28:58 PM
Remove one Luo CS or PS and give it to the deserving Kisiis.

Nyamira has no cs or ps. Ruto has to fix that.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Georgesoros on November 03, 2022, 02:54:18 PM
what a joke!!!
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 03, 2022, 05:48:43 PM
it might look bad on paper but unfortunately  this is the outcome of a long torturous journey Uhuru visited on Ruto and his strongholds, however people shouldn't read  too much into the appointments, we are in a modern era, bottom line Ruto has held his promises very well, Ruto was voted in by mlima and kalenjin, so sort them,, but going forward any of these appointed will be dismissed easily if not performing.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on November 03, 2022, 05:54:01 PM
Remove one Luo CS or PS and give it to the deserving Kisiis.

Nyamira has no cs or ps. Ruto has to fix that.
kadudu have always suspected you are a mogusii since them days, you and pundit might be related he is a half kisii, Kisii need to be voting as a block going forward either in gavas or out like luos
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: sema on November 03, 2022, 06:10:48 PM
What do PS's do and why have both PS's and CAS's?
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 03, 2022, 06:17:22 PM
For Ruto to achieve greatness; he must avoid small mistakes like totally ignoring entire Gusii population; 5% of kenya. He should fix this small mistakes otherwise the list is good. Small mistake nothing serious.
it might look bad on paper but unfortunately  this is the outcome of a long torturous journey Uhuru visited on Ruto and his strongholds, however people shouldn't read  too much into the appointments, we are in a modern era, bottom line Ruto has held his promises very well, Ruto was voted in by mlima and kalenjin, so sort them,, but going forward any of these appointed will be dismissed easily if not performing.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: gout on November 04, 2022, 10:16:13 AM
Great spinning by Itumbi. Ndindi Nyoro ought to have been allowed one PS though Murang'a in fact Kandara has two CSs.

GEMA will likely be on high alert in case the PSs start undermining the CSs. It will be fatal for Hasla if that is his plan.
Title: Re: Ruto appoint kalenjin nation to PS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 04, 2022, 10:23:23 AM
Apart from singoei - and bitok - who might have direct line to Ruto - the rest look tame - from Omollo - most of them are neophytes. The good thing Ruto always has is ears and eyes on the ground - so he can rectify. Ufool biggest mistake was to lock himself in statehouse.
Great spinning by Itumbi. Ndindi Nyoro ought to have been allowed one PS though Murang'a in fact Kandara has two CSs.

GEMA will likely be on high alert in case the PSs start undermining the CSs. It will be fatal for Hasla if that is his plan.