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Title: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 04:05:23 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/oct/20/uk-politics-live-liz-truss-tories-turmoil-suella-braverman-resigns-fracking

Liz Truss's resignation speech in full
I came into office at a time of great economic and international instability.
Families and businesses were worried about how to pay their bills.
Putin’s illegal war in Ukraine threatens the security of our whole continent.
And our country had been held back for too long by low economic growth.

I was elected by the Conservative Party with a mandate to change this.
We delivered on energy bills and on cutting national insurance.
And we set out a vision for a low tax, high growth economy – that would take advantage of the freedoms of Brexit.
I recognise though, given the situation, I cannot deliver the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative Party.
I have therefore spoken to His Majesty The King to notify him that I am resigning as Leader of the Conservative Party.
This morning I met the Chair of the 1922 Committee Sir Graham Brady.
We have agreed there will be a leadership election to be completed in the next week.
This will ensure we remain on a path to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability and national security.
I will remain as Prime Minister until a successor has been chosen.
Thank you .
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 20, 2022, 04:14:56 PM
Noway bana you know very well you peddling cheap propaganda. Truss was done for because of her economic policy that saw pound crash overnight and other pain to the British economy, her economics were very radical and she was implementing them over a very short period.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Kadudu on October 20, 2022, 04:43:27 PM
Leave Noway... to live in his own world.

Noway bana you know very well you peddling cheap propaganda. Truss was done for because of her economic policy that saw pound crash overnight and other pain to the British economy, her economics were very radical and she was implementing them over a very short period.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Fairandbalanced on October 20, 2022, 04:51:55 PM
Wrong on Russia from the beginning. He has to keep finding things to justify his original reasoning, it’s Trumpian logic. Russia has lost and they are extremely vulnerable and exposed right now.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: patel on October 20, 2022, 04:59:59 PM
Lots of folks who cannot connects the dots...energy crisis, inflation etc etc all those European Nato government will soon collapse. Bye bye Lil fuka Liz Tush...British empire out, next Germany....
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Kadudu on October 20, 2022, 05:04:37 PM
We have connected the dots and Putin will soon be marching into Berlin to be welcomed by cheering crowds as their messias.

Lots of folks who cannot connects the dots...energy crisis, inflation etc etc all those European Nato government will soon collapse. Bye bye Lil fuka Liz Tush...British empire out, next Germany....
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: patel on October 20, 2022, 05:17:04 PM
Offcourse you need gas for gas chambers ....cannot eat benz for breakfast or lunch..you need wheat, you need corn, sunflower and fertilizer to grow crops...and when your tummy is full you need gas to heat your palace. Poor Europeans.
We have connected the dots and Putin will soon be marching into Berlin to be welcomed by cheering crowds as their messias.

Lots of folks who cannot connects the dots...energy crisis, inflation etc etc all those European Nato government will soon collapse. Bye bye Lil fuka Liz Tush...British empire out, next Germany....
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 05:22:13 PM
How about lets start from Boris would still be in office if Western leaders would have managed the situation differently. They should have prevented the Ukrainian crisis from starting.
Njuri lets be truthful Ukrainian crisis also had an impact on Kenyan politics and in as much as we wanted to vilify Uhuru and his handshake partner Ukranian crisis had an impact through inflation in Kenyan economics.
The reason Geopolitics is a major component in world economy.
Even Truss successor will get a challenge in surviving until the Ukranian crisis is handled in a better way.
Shooting your self in the foot like what UK and Europe did is plain dumb . The sanctions are hurting U.K and Europe more than Russians .
And fyi this has not only affected U.K. Leadership but also other European countries. Italy, Sweden etc etc . Macron barely survived  -and ended up losing parliamentary elections.

Noway bana you know very well you peddling cheap propaganda. Truss was done for because of her economic policy that saw pound crash overnight and other pain to the British economy, her economics were very radical and she was implementing them over a very short period.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 05:23:27 PM

If the world Im living in is the reality one so be it.
Leave Noway... to live in his own world.

Noway bana you know very well you peddling cheap propaganda. Truss was done for because of her economic policy that saw pound crash overnight and other pain to the British economy, her economics were very radical and she was implementing them over a very short period.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 05:24:54 PM

What was the original reasoning ?

Wrong on Russia from the beginning. He has to keep finding things to justify his original reasoning, it’s Trumpian logic. Russia has lost and they are extremely vulnerable and exposed right now.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: RV Pundit on October 20, 2022, 05:31:34 PM
Its hard to imagine that  Russian-ukraine war has not had impact; it has had a global impact; coming soon after corona; it's going to lead to serious problems.

Russia is losing this war - which is not good - because they are sore losers - and will drag this conflict for long.

I wish they would have won easily - and this crisis ended.

Now we are looking into another 1-2 yrs of conflict.

NATO and Russia need to sit down and resolve this conflict peacefully. The war option is no longer tenable.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Kadudu on October 20, 2022, 05:32:45 PM
You assume the EU countries have been sleeping since February. Check the level of the gas storages and you will know what is happening. It will be a tight winter, but the EU countries are prepared for it.

Btw, I personally do not use gas. Was to change to gas mid this year, but then Putin crossed all my plans. :)

Offcourse you need gas for gas chambers ....cannot eat benz for breakfast or lunch..you need wheat, you need corn, sunflower and fertilizer to grow crops...and when your tummy is full you need gas to heat your palace. Poor Europeans.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: patel on October 20, 2022, 06:09:44 PM
Looks like Putin is readying for winter offensive most likely in November when the ground is cold and wet. Let us see how the tanks will maneuver through the terrain. Comedian will have no escape route. 2/3 of ukraine power grid is knocked out its a matter of time before Kiev is in total blackout...and you still think these people are winning? Putin stated mission remains denazification and demilitarization of ukraine. I think he has achieved the first one and half way to the second one. Ukraine should just wave white flag and accept new boundaries along Dinpro river...
Its hard to imagine that  Russian-ukraine war has not had impact; it has had a global impact; coming soon after corona; it's going to lead to serious problems.

Russia is losing this war - which is not good - because they are sore losers - and will drag this conflict for long.

I wish they would have won easily - and this crisis ended.

Now we are looking into another 1-2 yrs of conflict.

NATO and Russia need to sit down and resolve this conflict peacefully. The war option is no longer tenable.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: audacityofhope on October 20, 2022, 06:54:44 PM
How about lets start from Boris would still be in office if Western leaders would have managed the situation differently. They should have prevented the Ukrainian crisis from starting.... bla bla bla...
Yenyewe stick to your disillusion Russian world. You haven't a clue that among the strong contenders to replace Liz Truss is that Boris you mentioned. He currently is somewhere Bahamas on holiday that he may just have to cut short!
Boris leaving was about partie-after-partie, not Ukraine. Ukrainians were full of praise for his friendship - nothing absolutely wrong with the way he managed the war in Ukraine! Ukraine will absolutely celebrate his return - a nightmare scenario for Russia should Boris Johnson find himself as PM again.

(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/tp-graphic-who-is-to-blame.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: RV Pundit on October 20, 2022, 06:59:37 PM
I dont see a military end to this conflict- Russia just lack the military edge to finish this. This will become a protracted war - and many countries will suffer.

Ghana is going down as we speak.

kenya is limping.

Looks like Putin is readying for winter offensive most likely in November when the ground is cold and wet. Let us see how the tanks will maneuver through the terrain. Comedian will have no escape route. 2/3 of ukraine power grid is knocked out its a matter of time before Kiev is in total blackout...and you still think these people are winning? Putin stated mission remains denazification and demilitarization of ukraine. I think he has achieved the first one and half way to the second one. Ukraine should just wave white flag and accept new boundaries along Dinpro river...
Its hard to imagine that  Russian-ukraine war has not had impact; it has had a global impact; coming soon after corona; it's going to lead to serious problems.

Russia is losing this war - which is not good - because they are sore losers - and will drag this conflict for long.

I wish they would have won easily - and this crisis ended.

Now we are looking into another 1-2 yrs of conflict.

NATO and Russia need to sit down and resolve this conflict peacefully. The war option is no longer tenable.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: patel on October 20, 2022, 07:03:00 PM
Boris who?????Boris can comeback what difference would it make ? It's not like UK has military might or personel to go Mano a Mano with Putin. Declining empire without USA they would be toast. They just talk big and a lot of English but underneath there is nothing, cannt even match up with INDIA.
How about lets start from Boris would still be in office if Western leaders would have managed the situation differently. They should have prevented the Ukrainian crisis from starting.... bla bla bla...
Yenyewe stick to your disillusion Russian world. You haven't a clue that among the strong contenders to replace Liz Truss is that Boris you mentioned. He currently is somewhere Bahamas on holiday that he may just have to cut short!
When Boris left, Ukraine were full of praise of his friendship. Now he could just be coming back  - a nightmare scenario for Russia should Boris Johnson find himself as PM again.

(https://www.expressandstar.com/resizer/WNEmQ4bediaGhU7C2TaD9pG6-ns=/600x450/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/mna/W5YJQSOL6NDOVO47CPTNKDFBQI.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: patel on October 20, 2022, 08:24:47 PM
For those in UK, you need to ditch and come home. The queen is dead, the king is naked and the prime minister barely last couple weeks. No political or Financial stability. Take your pounds and plough them in kwinya while you still have a chance. UK is done. They are reaping what they sowed in Zimbabwe only in slow motion.
You assume the EU countries have been sleeping since February. Check the level of the gas storages and you will know what is happening. It will be a tight winter, but the EU countries are prepared for it.

Btw, I personally do not use gas. Was to change to gas mid this year, but then Putin crossed all my plans. :)

Offcourse you need gas for gas chambers ....cannot eat benz for breakfast or lunch..you need wheat, you need corn, sunflower and fertilizer to grow crops...and when your tummy is full you need gas to heat your palace. Poor Europeans.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: audacityofhope on October 20, 2022, 08:57:03 PM
Boris who?????Boris can comeback what difference would it make ? It's not like UK has military might or personel to go Mano a Mano with Putin. Declining empire without USA they would be toast. They just talk big and a lot of English but underneath there is nothing, cannt even match up with INDIA.
Wewe Patel just remember this is the official position of Kenya on the War in Ukraine. Sio hio yako ya pesa nane! The tribalist you are, you had to inua India  :(
To my knowledge Martin Kimani is still at the Kenya's ambassador and Ruto has not changed that policy. The 'Dying empire' he specifically points at is Russia.

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Beware of Dying Empires, an African Warns (https://www.fairobserver.com/region/africa/peter-isackson-kenyan-ambassador-un-security-council-kenya-news-african-ukraine-russia-united-states-34892/)

Perhaps the most lucid commentary on the Ukraine crisis came from the Kenyan ambassador to the United Nations, Martin Kimani. Addressing the UN Security Council earlier this week, Kenya joined the chorus of nations categorically condemning Russia’s violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity.

“We must complete our recovery from the embers of dead empires,” Kimani urges, “in a way that does not plunge us back into new forms of domination and oppression.” The populations on the receiving end of colonial logic know that even dead empires, chopped down to size, can be sources of contamination. They have left a lot of dead wood on the path of their colonial conquests. Not only does dead wood tend to rot, but, if the vestiges of the past are not cleared away, those who must continue to tread on the path frequently risk tripping over it.

Kimani evokes the specter of “nations that looked ever backward into history with a dangerous nostalgia.” He sees a bright side in the fact that an incoherently drawn map may have helped Africa avoid the worst effects of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 10:51:39 PM
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 11:04:51 PM
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 11:16:45 PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-outgoing-pm-truss-was-catastrophically-illiterate-disgrace-2022-10-20/
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on October 20, 2022, 11:41:59 PM
Looks like things are thick outside USA. Everyone, including Europeans should pack their bags and hit our southern border. As always, the economy is booming over here!
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 20, 2022, 11:55:04 PM

They are doing that , there is mass exodus out of Europe many Aircrafts are full out of Europe with few passengers into Europe.
U.S. Military Industry Complex is really benefiting all governements want to equip themselves with weaponry.

Looks like things are thick outside USA. Everyone, including Europeans should pack their bags and hit our southern border. As always, the economy is booming over here!
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: audacityofhope on October 21, 2022, 07:39:43 AM
These two tweets have nothing to do with the wording you gave to the title of this thread. You have no shame pinning them here. Nothing to do with Ukraine.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: audacityofhope on October 21, 2022, 07:53:12 AM
For those in UK, you need to ditch and come home. The queen is dead, the king is naked and the prime minister barely last couple weeks. No political or Financial stability. Take your pounds and plough them in kwinya while you still have a chance. UK is done. They are reaping what they sowed in Zimbabwe only in slow motion.
Sure, bring your pounds to Kwinya. The folks there are very enthusiastic about their political and Financial future:


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Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: audacityofhope on October 22, 2022, 11:31:42 AM
How about lets start from Boris would still be in office if Western leaders would have managed the situation differently. They should have prevented the Ukrainian crisis from starting.... bla bla bla...
Yenyewe stick to your disillusion Russian world. You haven't a clue that among the strong contenders to replace Liz Truss is that Boris you mentioned. He currently is somewhere Bahamas on holiday; no surprises if he cuts that holiday short!
Boris leaving was about partie-after-partie, not Ukraine. Ukrainians were full of praise for his friendship - nothing absolutely wrong with the way he managed the war in Ukraine! Ukraine will absolutely celebrate his return - a nightmare scenario for Russia should Boris Johnson find himself as PM again.
I lost hope in humanity around the globe. What is it with folks putting into office politicians they know so well to be liars. In the last couple of weeks, it happened in Kwinya and now a repeat looks on the cards in UK. I said it like a joke here, but sleaze ball and liar Boris has actually cut his holiday short to return to the UK.
Title: Re: Ukrainian Crisis Sweeps Yet Another UK PM Truss Gone
Post by: Kadudu on October 22, 2022, 11:58:01 AM

They are doing that , there is mass exodus out of Europe many Aircrafts are full out of Europe with few passengers into Europe.
U.S. Military Industry Complex is really benefiting all governements want to equip themselves with weaponry.

Am I missing something here. Where are the Europeans heading too?

Btw, apart from millions of Ukrainian refugees, the month of September saw the highest number of immigrants to Europe. Very many from Africa. Could it be that these too missed something that only Noway... seems to see?