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Title: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 09:26:58 AM
https://sputniknews.com/20221008/cargo-vehicle-exploded-on-crimean-bridge-russias-national-anti-terrorism-committee-says-1101628592.html
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 09:58:26 AM
I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 10:16:53 AM
Look like it's over for Russia. Just like 1989 - Russia has lost without much of a fight.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 10:33:37 AM
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 10:38:34 AM
Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 10:41:14 AM
6 weeks and they cant hack Donbass Xerson or Zirpojojenie . All they have managed is Izyum and lyman 2 towns of 200 people each.
This is what people are celebrating of billions of weapons handed over to Ukraine.
As they say that Russia now is in control of the largest Nuclear plant in Europe.
People are very shallow in their thinking.

Look like it's over for Russia. Just like 1989 - Russia has lost without much of a fight.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 10:58:23 AM
putin said he is not bluffing. Biden believes him you seem not too. Its a matter of time.
Once Nuclear weapons are used if Biden once to reciprocate then it will be a nuclear war meaning end of the world. If Biden will be sober like his predescors he will go to the table and avert the Armagedon he is talking about. If he was wiser he would do it now. And most probably based on the rhetoric from moscow hiss officials are already doing it chini ya maji .


Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 11:23:06 AM
It not in US interest to end war. I doubt Russia will use nuclear and US knows it. US interest is for civil war to continue in Ukraine and keep Russia busy defending their newly acquired territories.

So US will fund Ukraine just enough to keep Russia busy - not not enough to let Ukraine beat Russia.

Ukraine have proven capable - so we enter winter - there will be a lull - then civil war resume in march next year.

Putin has failed here. He should have attacked KIEV. Now he will spend the rest of his regime time fighting in Ukraine - low intensity war.

putin said he is not bluffing. Biden believes him you seem not too. Its a matter of time.
Once Nuclear weapons are used if Biden once to reciprocate then it will be a nuclear war meaning end of the world. If Biden will be sober like his predescors he will go to the table and avert the Armagedon he is talking about. If he was wiser he would do it now. And most probably based on the rhetoric from moscow hiss officials are already doing it chini ya maji .


Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 11:38:52 AM
Putin is not stupid , then again Putin is following a script written long time ago. And yes Putin will use Tactical Nuclear Weapons in Western Ukraine/Poland. Biden knows it, his officials know it but dont want to make the public panic. Just like you they wishfully think he wont go that route.
Merkel came out again the day before yesterday and once again reteriated  take Putin seriously. Once it goes nuclear . It will be a new milestone in war history just as humans left using arrows in 17th Century use of nuclear weapons with be the new kid on the block.
Does Biden want to go down in history as the leader who midwifed use of Nuclear weapons. We are about to see.

It not in US interest to end war. I doubt Russia will use nuclear and US knows it. US interest is for civil war to continue in Ukraine and keep Russia busy defending their newly acquired territories.

So US will fund Ukraine just enough to keep Russia busy - not not enough to let Ukraine beat Russia.

Ukraine have proven capable - so we enter winter - there will be a lull - then civil war resume in march next year.

Putin has failed here. He should have attacked KIEV. Now he will spend the rest of his regime time fighting in Ukraine - low intensity war.

putin said he is not bluffing. Biden believes him you seem not too. Its a matter of time.
Once Nuclear weapons are used if Biden once to reciprocate then it will be a nuclear war meaning end of the world. If Biden will be sober like his predescors he will go to the table and avert the Armagedon he is talking about. If he was wiser he would do it now. And most probably based on the rhetoric from moscow hiss officials are already doing it chini ya maji .


Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 12:02:07 PM
So the world should help Putin keep Crimea or he will nuke it. Sounds dumb. Nobody will listen to his empty nuclear threats. Let him Nuke Ukraine. Then he will still get a hiding....because after nuking a town...you still need boots on the ground. And the sanctions that will come his way - even China will lead in sanctioning Russia. I hope is not a moron to play such a card. He will be ostracized and locked out of the world. Even airspace they wont be able to fly to any country in the world.

Nuclear weapon is red line that no country will cross - Putin needs to prepare for long low intensity civil war until he gathers conventional weapons and troops to go to KIEV.

Putin is not stupid , then again Putin is following a script written long time ago. And yes Putin will use Tactical Nuclear Weapons in Western Ukraine/Poland. Biden knows it, his officials know it but dont want to make the public panic. Just like you they wishfully think he wont go that route.
Merkel came out again the day before yesterday and once again reteriated  take Putin seriously. Once it goes nuclear . It will be a new milestone in war history just as humans left using arrows in 17th Century use of nuclear weapons with be the new kid on the block.
Does Biden want to go down in history as the leader who midwifed use of Nuclear weapons. We are about to see.

It not in US interest to end war. I doubt Russia will use nuclear and US knows it. US interest is for civil war to continue in Ukraine and keep Russia busy defending their newly acquired territories.

So US will fund Ukraine just enough to keep Russia busy - not not enough to let Ukraine beat Russia.

Ukraine have proven capable - so we enter winter - there will be a lull - then civil war resume in march next year.

Putin has failed here. He should have attacked KIEV. Now he will spend the rest of his regime time fighting in Ukraine - low intensity war.

putin said he is not bluffing. Biden believes him you seem not too. Its a matter of time.
Once Nuclear weapons are used if Biden once to reciprocate then it will be a nuclear war meaning end of the world. If Biden will be sober like his predescors he will go to the table and avert the Armagedon he is talking about. If he was wiser he would do it now. And most probably based on the rhetoric from moscow hiss officials are already doing it chini ya maji .


Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 12:23:40 PM
Yes nuclear war is that Dumb. So dumb are the leaders of our generation we have reached this stage. Did U.S. need foot on the ground after dropping atomic bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki ?
Why would you send human beings to a nuclear contaminated area ? Do you know the effects of a nuclear war ? Jielemishe you are good at googling.

So the world should help Putin keep Crimea or he will nuke it. Sounds dumb. Nobody will listen to his empty nuclear threats. Let him Nuke Ukraine. Then he will still get a hiding....because after nuking a town...you still need boots on the ground. And the sanctions that will come his way - even China will lead in sanctioning Russia. I hope is not a moron to play such a card. He will be ostracized and locked out of the world. Even airspace they wont be able to fly to any country in the world.

Nuclear weapon is red line that no country will cross - Putin needs to prepare for long low intensity civil war until he gathers conventional weapons and troops to go to KIEV.

Putin is not stupid , then again Putin is following a script written long time ago. And yes Putin will use Tactical Nuclear Weapons in Western Ukraine/Poland. Biden knows it, his officials know it but dont want to make the public panic. Just like you they wishfully think he wont go that route.
Merkel came out again the day before yesterday and once again reteriated  take Putin seriously. Once it goes nuclear . It will be a new milestone in war history just as humans left using arrows in 17th Century use of nuclear weapons with be the new kid on the block.
Does Biden want to go down in history as the leader who midwifed use of Nuclear weapons. We are about to see.

It not in US interest to end war. I doubt Russia will use nuclear and US knows it. US interest is for civil war to continue in Ukraine and keep Russia busy defending their newly acquired territories.

So US will fund Ukraine just enough to keep Russia busy - not not enough to let Ukraine beat Russia.

Ukraine have proven capable - so we enter winter - there will be a lull - then civil war resume in march next year.

Putin has failed here. He should have attacked KIEV. Now he will spend the rest of his regime time fighting in Ukraine - low intensity war.

putin said he is not bluffing. Biden believes him you seem not too. Its a matter of time.
Once Nuclear weapons are used if Biden once to reciprocate then it will be a nuclear war meaning end of the world. If Biden will be sober like his predescors he will go to the table and avert the Armagedon he is talking about. If he was wiser he would do it now. And most probably based on the rhetoric from moscow hiss officials are already doing it chini ya maji .


Nobody outside Russia recognise those terrorities as Russian. I doubt the US would do that. Can Russia throw Nuclear. They know better than play their last card. They will threaten to use it but will never use it. Once you've played that card then what.
Exactly Crimeria is Russia any act of threat to Russian existance they can justify use of Nuclear weapons , hence the reason U.S. has insisted to Zelensky never target anything on Russian land.
Ukraine is giving Russia more fodder to use nuclear weapons ,which will bring the end of convectional weapons all together . All nations will want to be nuclear armed and this will bring about the end of booming Military industry complex.

I though Crimea is now Russia?
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 12:53:58 PM
Nobody is doing another Hiroshima without serious consequence. Right now Russia is facing western sanctions. If it tries nuclear - it will face worldwide sanctions. They will become worse than North Korea.
Yes nuclear war is that Dumb. So dumb are the leaders of our generation we have reached this stage. Did U.S. need foot on the ground after dropping atomic bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki ?
Why would you send human beings to a nuclear contaminated area ? Do you know the effects of a nuclear war ? Jielemishe you are good at googling.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 12:59:38 PM
Same sentiments, oooh there will never be another war in Europe after WW2 , ooh Country Boundaries wont change after WW2 . Putin didnt bluff in both occasions. He wont bluff now. Sactions have existed since time memorial. Prior to WW2 U.S.S.R had been sanctioned for almost 20 years.

Nobody is doing another Hiroshima without serious consequence. Right now Russia is facing western sanctions. If it tries nuclear - it will face worldwide sanctions. They will become worse than North Korea.
Yes nuclear war is that Dumb. So dumb are the leaders of our generation we have reached this stage. Did U.S. need foot on the ground after dropping atomic bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki ?
Why would you send human beings to a nuclear contaminated area ? Do you know the effects of a nuclear war ? Jielemishe you are good at googling.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 01:20:27 PM
Let him try - China will led the sanctions. They better manufacture conventional weapons and fight Ukraine. With Nuke - they will have to eat their gas, oil and manufacture everything. They will be locked out of the world and kept in the north pole. They will only emerge out of it after handing over all their nukes...having proven incapable of handling Nukes.

Nuclear are for last last last final option....if Ukraine forces push as far as St Petersburg. Then people will understand why Russia has to use it.

To use it in Ukraine because you're getting an hiding in a war you started in crazy entitlement.

Same sentiments, oooh there will never be another war in Europe after WW2 , ooh Country Boundaries wont change after WW2 . Putin didnt bluff in both occasions. He wont bluff now. Sactions have existed since time memorial. Prior to WW2 U.S.S.R had been sanctioned for almost 20 years.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 08, 2022, 05:02:14 PM
One less exit route.  But they can always call in and surrender.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 08:05:19 PM
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.


Let him try - China will led the sanctions. They better manufacture conventional weapons and fight Ukraine. With Nuke - they will have to eat their gas, oil and manufacture everything. They will be locked out of the world and kept in the north pole. They will only emerge out of it after handing over all their nukes...having proven incapable of handling Nukes.

Nuclear are for last last last final option....if Ukraine forces push as far as St Petersburg. Then people will understand why Russia has to use it.

To use it in Ukraine because you're getting an hiding in a war you started in crazy entitlement.

Same sentiments, oooh there will never be another war in Europe after WW2 , ooh Country Boundaries wont change after WW2 . Putin didnt bluff in both occasions. He wont bluff now. Sactions have existed since time memorial. Prior to WW2 U.S.S.R had been sanctioned for almost 20 years.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 08:15:13 PM
You mean there lot more crazy people willing to commit suicide like you. Why would China use nuclear when it can achieve it's objective with conventional weapon. Tell Putin (who I suppose listen to you) - manufacture conventional weapon and save his arse.
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 08, 2022, 09:09:56 PM
You mean there lot more crazy people willing to commit suicide like you. Why would China use nuclear when it can achieve it's objective with conventional weapon. Tell Putin (who I suppose listen to you) - manufacture conventional weapon and save his arse.
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.

After the collapse of USSR, Russia, while in decline, had all the elements in place that would make it take off.  Infrastructure, Human Resources, minerals, oil, gas - it should be rivaling China and the US.  Instead they’ve managed to reduce the place to a middling petro-state and a pariah at that.  It’s hard to see China seeing any of that as a template they would endorse.



Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 08, 2022, 09:36:54 PM
Yes this war has exposed them as third world country - you can see the weapons are USSR era. They are need to take lessons from this war and catch up - otherwise trying threaten Nukes like North Korea is laughable. Threatening the world with weapon of mass destruction just because they cannot carve up a sovereign nation is height of insolence. If anybody attack St Petersburg or middle of Russia - they maybe justified to deploy Nukes - like the US did in Pearl Harbour.
After the collapse of USSR, Russia, while in decline, had all the elements in place that would make it take off.  Infrastructure, Human Resources, minerals, oil, gas - it should be rivaling China and the US.  Instead they’ve managed to reduce the place to a middling petro-state and a pariah at that.  It’s hard to see China seeing any of that as a template they would endorse.




Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
Even with CNN trying to twist it. Ex CIA boss saying as it is . Putin is not bluffing . Its only a matter of time before he used Nuclear weapon which will escalate the war and lead to Armagedon.

Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 08, 2022, 09:53:56 PM
Pundit why is China the third largest Nuclear Country in the World ?
If Putin was listening to me The Baltic Countries would never have joined NATO . Putin by then was drunk in Petrodollars /Euros.
Maidan revolution could have quashed by the bud. Putin had been given the leeway by Yankuvich legally as per international laws to usw Military ro resolve the issue. He did it with Kazakhstan and Belarus at the end of last year. After Maidan revolution from Donbass to Odessa would have been Autonomous repulics with Ukraine.
Now what Putin has done is by absorbing those four regions in Russia is chess move which caught Western powers unawares . a fait accompli . Ukraine for sure will never join NATO and you heard yesterday NATO refusing to deploy Nuclear weapons in Nations which joined poat 1997. Thats a message to Putin we can negotiate.  If this time around they refuse to cede ground another Fwb 14 will happen in Weatern Ukraine /Poland.

You mean there lot more crazy people willing to commit suicide like you. Why would China use nuclear when it can achieve it's objective with conventional weapon. Tell Putin (who I suppose listen to you) - manufacture conventional weapon and save his arse.
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: RV Pundit on October 09, 2022, 12:28:18 AM
He can keep the four regions but he should expect robust defence from Ukraine akin to Ethiopia and Eritrea border wars. That I think is how this will play out. Russia will defend the newly acquired or reclaimed Russian lands as Ukraine will try to push the border. US and NATO will control Ukraine movement - ensuring it does about enough to irritate Russia without causing a meltdown.

One thing is clear - Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for  a long time. USSR fell with Afgan - this could be Russia waterloo

Pundit why is China the third largest Nuclear Country in the World ?
If Putin was listening to me The Baltic Countries would never have joined NATO . Putin by then was drunk in Petrodollars /Euros.
Maidan revolution could have quashed by the bud. Putin had been given the leeway by Yankuvich legally as per international laws to usw Military ro resolve the issue. He did it with Kazakhstan and Belarus at the end of last year. After Maidan revolution from Donbass to Odessa would have been Autonomous repulics with Ukraine.
Now what Putin has done is by absorbing those four regions in Russia is chess move which caught Western powers unawares . a fait accompli . Ukraine for sure will never join NATO and you heard yesterday NATO refusing to deploy Nuclear weapons in Nations which joined poat 1997. Thats a message to Putin we can negotiate.  If this time around they refuse to cede ground another Fwb 14 will happen in Weatern Ukraine /Poland.

You mean there lot more crazy people willing to commit suicide like you. Why would China use nuclear when it can achieve it's objective with conventional weapon. Tell Putin (who I suppose listen to you) - manufacture conventional weapon and save his arse.
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 09, 2022, 01:10:47 AM
Even with CNN trying to twist it. Ex CIA boss saying as it is . Putin is not bluffing . Its only a matter of time before he used Nuclear weapon which will escalate the war and lead to Armagedon.


Nobody in the linked video is saying that.  The nuance is lost on you.

That aside, there is an acknowledged fact that Putin is desperate.  Desperate people do desperate things.  Putin is a desperate person with access to a nuclear stockpile.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2022, 05:07:43 AM

U.S.S.R. Fell because of multiple reason . Putin just saved Russia. When history is written one thing will be clear Putin gave Russia 200 more years of a state.
Putin of early 2000 was going the route of Gorbachev/Yelstin which would have been disastrous.
Main reason why U.S.S.R. Failed was Gorbachev appeasement to the west, refusing to use might when needed during Solidarity movement in Poland , revolution in Hungary (to maintain the Warsaw pact), accepting Germany Unification he should have listened to Margret Charter,
Introduction of Glasnost and perestroika reforms , giving baltic states more autonomy and poor managerial skills of his party.
U.S.S.R. A few weeks prior had voted for the union to continue only for C.I.A to sponsor Yelstin and the so called heads of Ukraine and Belarus (Non existent states) who did coup by signing Commonwealth Pact. Whose authority did they do it for.
As it stands Ukraine can never join NATO with contested territory meaning its just a matter of time before they align themselves with Russia again . Secondly E.U is in the brink on imploding we saw this with Brexit , nationalism is creeping back and most of the countries have started voting out Pro EU governments , with time E.U. Will become weaker and weaker and nations will start trading independently and not as a block, things will be back at default settings and this in turn will benefit Russia due to its enormous minerals and large population.


He can keep the four regions but he should expect robust defence from Ukraine akin to Ethiopia and Eritrea border wars. That I think is how this will play out. Russia will defend the newly acquired or reclaimed Russian lands as Ukraine will try to push the border. US and NATO will control Ukraine movement - ensuring it does about enough to irritate Russia without causing a meltdown.

One thing is clear - Russia will be bogged down in Ukraine for  a long time. USSR fell with Afgan - this could be Russia waterloo

Pundit why is China the third largest Nuclear Country in the World ?
If Putin was listening to me The Baltic Countries would never have joined NATO . Putin by then was drunk in Petrodollars /Euros.
Maidan revolution could have quashed by the bud. Putin had been given the leeway by Yankuvich legally as per international laws to usw Military ro resolve the issue. He did it with Kazakhstan and Belarus at the end of last year. After Maidan revolution from Donbass to Odessa would have been Autonomous repulics with Ukraine.
Now what Putin has done is by absorbing those four regions in Russia is chess move which caught Western powers unawares . a fait accompli . Ukraine for sure will never join NATO and you heard yesterday NATO refusing to deploy Nuclear weapons in Nations which joined poat 1997. Thats a message to Putin we can negotiate.  If this time around they refuse to cede ground another Fwb 14 will happen in Weatern Ukraine /Poland.

You mean there lot more crazy people willing to commit suicide like you. Why would China use nuclear when it can achieve it's objective with conventional weapon. Tell Putin (who I suppose listen to you) - manufacture conventional weapon and save his arse.
China who themselves are raring to use the Nuclear weapons will Punish Russia for using Nuclear weapons. Wacha bangi Pundit.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 09, 2022, 05:43:18 AM
The are two lines of thought there one by presenter and the other one by the ex C.I.A.
Ex C.I.A. Is sure the war will escalate when (a matter of time) Nuclear weapons are used. He also pinpoints it will be a dissaster for the world not one side alone.
As for Putin being desperate thats upon you to judge. Putin is just doing his job Protecting Russia and its interests . Judgement is done once the war is done. Stalin won against hitler when the whole world was saying Stalin is desperate the few years at the start of the war.

Even with CNN trying to twist it. Ex CIA boss saying as it is . Putin is not bluffing . Its only a matter of time before he used Nuclear weapon which will escalate the war and lead to Armagedon.


Nobody in the linked video is saying that.  The nuance is lost on you.

That aside, there is an acknowledged fact that Putin is desperate.  Desperate people do desperate things.  Putin is a desperate person with access to a nuclear stockpile.
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2022, 10:48:11 PM
Noway....., how many countries have recognized the four territories of Ukraine annexed by Russia? Not heard any such message from the now big brother, China. 
Title: Re: Ukrainians Now Playing Themselves -Blew Up the Crimean Bridge
Post by: Kadudu on October 09, 2022, 10:50:22 PM
Also Putin should annex territories he fully controls. What is the use of annex territories you do not control and even loosing the land you nyakuad?