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Title: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2022, 03:58:03 PM
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 04, 2022, 04:37:44 PM
They are catching hell.  Putin plans to send in more(and less experienced and trained) replacements for God knows what.  I suspect it's a cultural thing.  Russians(and Ukrainians) have some pretty petty tendencies that you don't typically see with bazungus.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 04, 2022, 05:28:16 PM
Eastern european have same violent gene with mwafrika.Ni vita tu. The Asian then western european are peaceful. Asian is esp a peaceful human.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 04, 2022, 06:19:23 PM
send them all is what Putin in saying. Hitler had the best weapons and supply by the time World war 2 was ending USSR had the best weapons .
Putin is years ahead in the game being played. Im just from Austria . Its so hard people are fleeing . All flights are full (October Should be the lowest seasonal period) had to pay a whole plot just to catch a flight to Kenya. They say 200k have fled Russia 2 Million people are fleeing Europe as we speak.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 04, 2022, 09:13:52 PM
Eastern european have same violent gene with mwafrika. Ni vita tu. The Asian then western european are peaceful. Asian is esp a peaceful human.
Quote
Breaking:
The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2022 has gone to Sweden's Svante Paabo for his work on human evolution.

The Prize committee said he cracked the genetic code of one of our extinct relatives - Neanderthals. (The other being the previously unknown relative - Denisovans). His work shows there were already two distinct groups of hominins (Neanderthals and Denisovans) living in Eurasia (Europe & Asia) when Homo sapiens spread from Africa.

His work helped explore our own evolutionary history and how humans spread around the planet. Neanderthals became extinct 40,000 years ago, but not before they had intermarried with those Homo Sapiens who from around 70,000 migrated to Europe and Asia. Denisovans also went the extinction route.

Sequencing of DNA from a 40,000-year-old piece of bone show that Neanderthals - who mostly lived in Europe and Western Asia - were distinct from both modern day humans and chimpanzees. This genetic analysis led to the finding that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens interbred, and that 1–4% of the genome of modern humans of European or Asian descent can be traced back to the Neanderthals.

Between 1-4% of modern human DNA comes from our Neanderthal relatives and this even affects our body's ability to respond to infection. Some of this genetic inheritance helps the body cope with low levels of oxygen, aids survival at high altitudes and is found in present-day Tibetans. In 2020, Pääbo and his team discovered that people with certain ancient variants (European Neanderhal heritage) can be at greater risk for hospitalization & respiratory failure during SARS-CoV-2 infections.

(https://d2r55xnwy6nx47.cloudfront.net/uploads/2022/10/physiology_graphic_family_history5_560-Desktop.svg)
FASCINATING!
This noble prize for medicine gives you an opportunity to revise your knowledge on genes.

Europe and Western Asia - Neanderthal --- Europeans have been most violent: Remember something called 100-years war!
Siberia --> Asia - Denisovans
Mwafrika remained uncontaminated. We are pure-bred Homo sapiens and relatively peaceful. Our undoing is poverty.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: patel on October 05, 2022, 12:44:51 AM
This one is getting worst by day. With Nordstrom sabotage Ukraine should prepare for open season. Everything now is fair game. Mutual destruction. May the last man out of Kiev switch the lights off. All I hear Putin is done but the guy has hived almost half of Ukraine most arable land. Over 3 million refugees most well off Ukrainian have fled....how does losing look like? Poor mainshit media, all trash.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 05, 2022, 08:20:02 AM
From my analysis these are retreating Russian forces that have been encircled,I told noway most of Russia forces in the east are encircled and are just sitting ducks to be ambushed very scaring,they are just sitting ducks.
You can tell just from this video the Ukrainians hold the surrounding territory and the Russians own just the higways and nothing else what General pundit calls going for the neck to chock it :D :D
Very poor doctrine that also saw tigray wipedout when he teied to move against adis ababa
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 08:31:30 AM
Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 09:32:21 AM
Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Hiyo ilikuwa ndoto.
That window passed. There can be no element of surprise in Ukraine anymore. To get at Kiev, Russia will have have to establish superiority in the skies, which it does not have.
NATO & US has equipped Ukraine such that every major city has air defense systems consisting of anti-missile batteries and abundant supply of shoulder held missiles against low flying aircraft. For every 6 missiles fired, four are intercepted. Russia has thrown its best amour, and is fast depleting its missile stocks - pretty expensive, faster than it can replace them. Russia went into war with a 1980s mindset. Tanks once feared are sitting ducks to Javelins. War in 2022 is fought with air defense systems and drones.

Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Githunguri on October 05, 2022, 10:03:31 AM
Unless Putin throws a nuclear warhead,He is done.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 10:39:01 AM
Putin will never destroy Kievan Rus. Thats their origin , its their Mecca.
Putin will hit Western Kiev/Poland with Nuclear weapons its just a matter of time. When he said he is not bluffing he meant it.
You guys need to study Russian War Doctrine. Napoleon failed,Hitler failed and so will Biden.

Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 10:58:44 AM
Surrender is still an option - like they did in 1990 to US.
Putin will never destroy Kievan Rus. Thats their origin , its their Mecca.
Putin will hit Western Kiev/Poland with Nuclear weapons its just a matter of time. When he said he is not bluffing he meant it.
You guys need to study Russian War Doctrine. Napoleon failed,Hitler failed and so will Biden.

Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 11:30:05 AM
You guys need to study Russian War Doctrine. Napoleon failed,Hitler failed and so will Biden.
Napoleon failed coz the Russia winter was responsible for more deaths than the actual fighting
Hitler failed coz of USSR winter, German troops froze to death.
It is not Biden boots on the ground.
How will Ukraine fail when Russian winter is also Ukraine winter?
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 05, 2022, 11:50:26 AM
Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Pundit don't be naive you assuming they intentionally refused to go to Kiev. It was the military resistance that forced them to change tact and go for the east of the country, Russian military doctrine just like tigray is outdated belongs in soviet era.
The worst thing to do when encircled or surrounded is break down into retreating in disarry, best gamble is to dig in and hold position fight as a cohesive force then some of you can make it while majority die but when you all break down into retreat chances are that you will be wiped out 100 percent just like this sorry convoy.
Basics of war Pundit is if you targeting a location you dont use the entire attacking force,half of it stays in reserve to support,UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU USE RESERVE FORCE AND MAIN FORCE SIMULTANEOUSLY TO CARRY OUT AN ATTACK. the reserve force only comes in to back and hold position,once you use up your reserve force you will now be vulnerable to the enemy who will wipe you out.
Best tactic is to attack for example with one company if enemy resistance is great call in the 2nd company to outflank enemy and try to put him out,if that doesn't work call in heavy aerial support and artillery,if that doesn't work HOLD POSITION,dont progress ,reserve force should relieve the first company which then falls out to be reserve for refitting and rest and so on making sure that your casualty rate is not high.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 12:39:04 PM
Nonsense. When you have an advantage; use it to the maximum;
Russian decimated Ukraine in first few months everywhere except where it mattered; Kiev.
TDF will regret not heading to Adis Ababa when they had the advantage.
Now both TDF and Russian must be prepared for a long bitter war that cannot be won.

Huge part of war is mind games. So when you have advantage; you better get the other guy running!
And there was no better opportunity for Russia than first week.
Nobody knew their weakness....now everyone Know Russia is old and rusty.
Ukraine clearly on the advantage now....and Russian will need something close to nuclear to change their fortunes.

British Conquered the world using this Shock and Awe strategy - Rapid dominance.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/02/02/inventor-of-shock--awe-explains-how-it-might-work-in-ukraine/?sh=7858c1df13b7

The real battleground is the opponent’s mind, and the doctrine suggests using a whole range of measures besides bombs to secure psychological victory.

“The goal of Rapid Dominance will be to destroy or so confound the will to resist that an adversary will have no alternative except to accept our strategic aims and military objectives,

Pundit don't be naive you assuming they intentionally refused to go to Kiev. It was the military resistance that forced them to change tact and go for the east of the country, Russian military doctrine just like tigray is outdated belongs in soviet era.
The worst thing to do when encircled or surrounded is break down into retreating in disarry, best gamble is to dig in and hold position fight as a cohesive force then some of you can make it while majority die but when you all break down into retreat chances are that you will be wiped out 100 percent just like this sorry convoy.
Basics of war Pundit is if you targeting a location you dont use the entire attacking force,half of it stays in reserve to support,UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU USE RESERVE FORCE AND MAIN FORCE SIMULTANEOUSLY TO CARRY OUT AN ATTACK. the reserve force only comes in to back and hold position,once you use up your reserve force you will now be vulnerable to the enemy who will wipe you out.
Best tactic is to attack for example with one company if enemy resistance is great call in the 2nd company to outflank enemy and try to put him out,if that doesn't work call in heavy aerial support and artillery,if that doesn't work HOLD POSITION,dont progress ,reserve force should relieve the first company which then falls out to be reserve for refitting and rest and so on making sure that your casualty rate is not high.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 05, 2022, 01:09:13 PM
Armchair General Pundit. You live in a cocoon.
Russia was incapable of capturing Kiev.
Tigray was incapable of capturing Adis.
Thats the bitter truth and now the consequences follow for that failure.
For Russia although humiliating pulling out of Ukraine remains the only logical thing to do.
For Tigray negotiating a permanent pact with Abiy is only way out
There is No military solution in my opinion.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 01:15:42 PM
Nobody knew their capacity then.
That is all point of shock and awe. Its the SUPRISE element
You go BIG - and before the other guy discover it's a bluff - they are already in exile.
Adis Ababa was falling - western countries had evacuated.
They were 200kms - there was panic in Adis.
Then they pulled back.

Now both are dead. Russia is dead. TDF are dead.

If I was a military strategist - I would avoid conventional war - it's has no ending.
Few wars are won.
Those few - element of suprise is key.
Once everyone dig in the tunnels - even US of A lost to Afganis and Vietnames.
Now it's firing and bombing - firing and bombing - endlessly until economic implications become too much to bear.

Russia job was simple - finish Ukraine airforce - fly to KIEV and bomb all key installations.
Hunt for any gov official - kill them
Empty the town.
Let the leadership be in exile.

Then now head to flanks and carve it.

Surrender KIEV after peace pact - as it going to be difficult to hold it anyway.

Armchair General Pundit. You live in a cocoon.
Russia was incapable of capturing Kiev.
Tigray was incapable of capturing Adis.
Thats the bitter truth and now the consequences follow for that failure.
For Russia although humiliating pulling out of Ukraine remains the only logical thing to do.
For Tigray negotiating a permanent pact with Abiy is only way out
There is No military solution in my opinion.

Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: sitting bull on October 05, 2022, 01:37:01 PM

Sorry to inform you, but this is a video game! Infact a propaganda clip shared online.

Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 02:46:56 PM
Putins biggest mistake was accepting Baltic states to enter NATO. Second biggest mistake was when Yankuvich then President of Ukraine in 2013 asked for Military help as per international law to quell Maidan revolution he never obliged. Third was after Crimea joined Russia and all Russian speaking regions all the way to Odessa wanted to join Russia he never supported it.
He is trying to rectify all that  . He will succeed but a big cost.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 05, 2022, 02:53:17 PM
Putin failed by not going to KIEV.
TDF failed by not going to Adis Ababa.
You want to kill a snake - choke it neck or hit it's head.
Dont waste time hitting the tail.
As long as KIEV is busy organizing and planning - Russian at the flaks are hopeless.
But if Russia was to hit KIEV parliament, statehouse, any gov building with long range missile.
Send Zelenksy to exile - it's over.
Have Lunch in Kiev - and then now sweep the leaderless rudderless country
Huge part of war is psychological.

British finished Nandi by going for Koitalel.

Russia have failed.
They should have borrowed US and British 'Shock and Awe'
Then deal with insurgency afterwards.
You dont start dealing with insurgency...they will drain you.

Go BIG initially and get them running.

This British war doctrine that US has perfected.
Hit them hard initially then deal with small battles at your pleasure.

For Putin to make gains now - he has to hit KIEV.
Otherwise he wont hold grounds at the flak.
KIEV is mobilizing and planning and strong.
Pundit don't be naive you assuming they intentionally refused to go to Kiev. It was the military resistance that forced them to change tact and go for the east of the country, Russian military doctrine just like tigray is outdated belongs in soviet era.
The worst thing to do when encircled or surrounded is break down into retreating in disarry, best gamble is to dig in and hold position fight as a cohesive force then some of you can make it while majority die but when you all break down into retreat chances are that you will be wiped out 100 percent just like this sorry convoy.
Basics of war Pundit is if you targeting a location you dont use the entire attacking force,half of it stays in reserve to support,UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU USE RESERVE FORCE AND MAIN FORCE SIMULTANEOUSLY TO CARRY OUT AN ATTACK. the reserve force only comes in to back and hold position,once you use up your reserve force you will now be vulnerable to the enemy who will wipe you out.
Best tactic is to attack for example with one company if enemy resistance is great call in the 2nd company to outflank enemy and try to put him out,if that doesn't work call in heavy aerial support and artillery,if that doesn't work HOLD POSITION,dont progress ,reserve force should relieve the first company which then falls out to be reserve for refitting and rest and so on making sure that your casualty rate is not high.

Yep.  Ukraine was just too strong.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 03:09:11 PM
They are literally trying to secure their objective while fleeing. It never works like that. They should have crushed Ukraine before they carve out those regions. Now Ukraine will reclaim those regions.
Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 05, 2022, 03:15:13 PM

Sorry to inform you, but this is a video game! Infact a propaganda clip shared online.

Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.
I tend to think initially Putin was misadvised that Ukrainians would rise against their government and topple it when Russia invaded, that's why I think the tactic he used to head straight to Kiev backfired. We wont know for sure now maybe many years later after declassification of intel on what really happened.
But main goal was topple the pro western government and install a pro russian one,that would be basic summary for me.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 05, 2022, 03:23:20 PM
As usual Noway... busy rewriting history to sfit his fantasies. Did the Crimea join Russia or it was invaded and annexed?

Did the other Russian speaking regions around Odessa hold referedums appealing to join Russia?

Btw, let me inform you, when the USSR collapsed in 1991, Russia under Boris Yeltsin signed the agreement for the federation to be dissolved and the borders as per then be respected. Nobody disbuted the borders then and so why now?

Putins biggest mistake was accepting Baltic states to enter NATO. Second biggest mistake was when Yankuvich then President of Ukraine in 2013 asked for Military help as per international law to quell Maidan revolution he never obliged. Third was after Crimea joined Russia  :oand all Russian speaking regions all the way to Odessa :o wanted to join Russia he never supported it.
He is trying to rectify all that  . He will succeed but a big cost.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: patel on October 05, 2022, 05:18:33 PM
Russia still does have an edge. Putin can strike Kiev everytime he gets a hard on. He can take Odessa and reduce Ukraine to another land locked European country...this thing been over for a while. Mainstream media keeps pumping Ukraine with fake hope.


Sorry to inform you, but this is a video game! Infact a propaganda clip shared online.

Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.

quote author=sitting bull link=topic=14287.msg129931#msg129931 date=1664966221]

Sorry to inform you, but this is a video game! Infact a propaganda clip shared online.

Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.
[/quote]
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: mankind on October 05, 2022, 06:09:03 PM
 Anyone who still believes Russia is fighting Ukraine needs their heads examined. Nato is at war with Russia providing everything from weapons, satellite information for targeting and communication intercepts. Ukraine military is being commanded by Nato officers in Western Ukraine who are in turn receiving real time information from Poland and Ramstein airbase in Germany.  At this point Ukraine has a million men mobilized against 200k  Russian soldiers. Russian law bars deployment of conscripted soldiers from being deployed outside the borders of the country.  Once the four regions are officially annexed it frees Putin to deploy a  lot of manpower and that is where shit will hit the fan. So as you cheer Putins purported defeat in the western media, be sure to check independent sources too. Ukraine as we know it will never be the same again that is if it even exists by this time next year.  Biden has turned out to be a big fool here.  This war should have been stopped before it began through back channels as was the case during the cold war.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 06:38:24 PM
Anyone who still believes Russia is fighting Ukraine needs their heads examined. Nato is at war with Russia providing everything from weapons, satellite information for targeting and communication intercepts. Ukraine military is being commanded by Nato officers in Western Ukraine who are in turn receiving real time information from Poland and Ramstein airbase in Germany.  At this point Ukraine has a million men mobilized against 200k  Russian soldiers. Russian law bars deployment of conscripted soldiers from being deployed outside the borders of the country.  Once the four regions are officially annexed it frees Putin to deploy a  lot of manpower and that is where shit will hit the fan. So as you cheer Putins purported defeat in the western media, be sure to check independent sources too. Ukraine as we know it will never be the same again that is if it even exists by this time next year.  Biden has turned out to be a big fool here.  This war should have been stopped before it began through back channels as was the case during the cold war.
You can as well repeat your insha, without crying... The memory of appeasement that failed to stop World War II from taking place is still too fresh. The fool here is Putin thinking (without any preparation at all, except a finger on the nuclear button) would just roll into Ukraine and the world would just watch. Even as you wish bad things for Ukraine, it will be a viable Nation not only next year but so too in 2030 we will take our families to watch football on the grandest scale of all:

?s=20&t=LxpHQCqu5F_vbTArPWHCXA
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: mankind on October 05, 2022, 06:52:44 PM
Anyone who still believes Russia is fighting Ukraine needs their heads examined. Nato is at war with Russia providing everything from weapons, satellite information for targeting and communication intercepts. Ukraine military is being commanded by Nato officers in Western Ukraine who are in turn receiving real time information from Poland and Ramstein airbase in Germany.  At this point Ukraine has a million men mobilized against 200k  Russian soldiers. Russian law bars deployment of conscripted soldiers from being deployed outside the borders of the country.  Once the four regions are officially annexed it frees Putin to deploy a  lot of manpower and that is where shit will hit the fan. So as you cheer Putins purported defeat in the western media, be sure to check independent sources too. Ukraine as we know it will never be the same again that is if it even exists by this time next year.  Biden has turned out to be a big fool here.  This war should have been stopped before it began through back channels as was the case during the cold war.
You can as well repeat your insha, without crying... The memory of appeasement that failed to stop World War II from taking place is still too fresh. The fool here is Putin thinking (without any preparation at all, except a finger on the nuclear button) would just roll into Ukraine and the world would just watch. Even as you wish bad things for Ukraine, it will be a viable Nation not only next year but so too in 2030 we will take our families to watch football on the grandest scale of all:

?s=20&t=LxpHQCqu5F_vbTArPWHCXA


   Continue your naive believe that Ukraine is winning.  As we speak they just lost four of their most productive regions and in the next months four more might be gone including Odessa and Kharkov.  Don't be fooled by the retreat up in Kharkov because it is way too close to the border and thus easier to overrun in the future. Smart folks starting with Kissinger and lately Musk are basically saying what everyone knows.  Eventually Putin will have his way and there is nothing we can do about it. Let's compare notes in a few months.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 07:02:30 PM

You seem to be the only one whi understands what is happening.
Once Biden loses midterm elections , it will be another Afghanistan , Ukraine will be left on its own.
Once Russia takes over Ukraine as it did with Romania in World War 2 . All those billions of weapons will be under their authority.  This is just the begining its not the end.

Anyone who still believes Russia is fighting Ukraine needs their heads examined. Nato is at war with Russia providing everything from weapons, satellite information for targeting and communication intercepts. Ukraine military is being commanded by Nato officers in Western Ukraine who are in turn receiving real time information from Poland and Ramstein airbase in Germany.  At this point Ukraine has a million men mobilized against 200k  Russian soldiers. Russian law bars deployment of conscripted soldiers from being deployed outside the borders of the country.  Once the four regions are officially annexed it frees Putin to deploy a  lot of manpower and that is where shit will hit the fan. So as you cheer Putins purported defeat in the western media, be sure to check independent sources too. Ukraine as we know it will never be the same again that is if it even exists by this time next year.  Biden has turned out to be a big fool here.  This war should have been stopped before it began through back channels as was the case during the cold war.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 07:09:40 PM
I told them this months ago.....The Kadudus were still buying in from Western Media...



Russia is winning in all fronts. Xerson , Zoprzjizjia had been captured earlier  Lugansk is gone , Donbass soon to go( Those are 4 Provinces) . Thats on the battle front. On the political scene , UK PM gone , Italy PM Gone more and more to go.

Dont belive western media hype.Actually most of them seem to have given up hyping Ukraine .
Do you have any connects telling you what is really happening in that part of the world or you watch CNN and make assumptions ?

Please remind me which month we are now since Russia launched it shock and awe blitzkrieg attack on ukraine 🐌🐌🐌
 :D
Russia has now lost 50,000 troops entire battalions wiped out and to be rebuilt from scratch the Russian bear has been poked in the ass or even testicles and they cant do a damn thing, Am yawning now

Anyone who still believes Russia is fighting Ukraine needs their heads examined. Nato is at war with Russia providing everything from weapons, satellite information for targeting and communication intercepts. Ukraine military is being commanded by Nato officers in Western Ukraine who are in turn receiving real time information from Poland and Ramstein airbase in Germany.  At this point Ukraine has a million men mobilized against 200k  Russian soldiers. Russian law bars deployment of conscripted soldiers from being deployed outside the borders of the country.  Once the four regions are officially annexed it frees Putin to deploy a  lot of manpower and that is where shit will hit the fan. So as you cheer Putins purported defeat in the western media, be sure to check independent sources too. Ukraine as we know it will never be the same again that is if it even exists by this time next year.  Biden has turned out to be a big fool here.  This war should have been stopped before it began through back channels as was the case during the cold war.
You can as well repeat your insha, without crying... The memory of appeasement that failed to stop World War II from taking place is still too fresh. The fool here is Putin thinking (without any preparation at all, except a finger on the nuclear button) would just roll into Ukraine and the world would just watch. Even as you wish bad things for Ukraine, it will be a viable Nation not only next year but so too in 2030 we will take our families to watch football on the grandest scale of all:

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   Continue your naive believe that Ukraine is winning.  As we speak they just lost four of their most productive regions and in the next months four more might be gone including Odessa and Kharkov.  Don't be fooled by the retreat up in Kharkov because it is way too close to the border and thus easier to overrun in the future. Smart folks starting with Kissinger and lately Musk are basically saying what everyone knows.  Eventually Putin will have his way and there is nothing we can do about it. Let's compare notes in a few months.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
This was my prediction in April .How spot on I was. Expect referendums on below cities in the near future. And No Im not FSB(KGB) This is known info amongst Russians going back in early 2000s after the Orange revolution.

Pending cities are Odessa, Summy ,Kharkiv, Mykolaiv,  and Dnipropetrovsk

From my perspective Putins mistake was participating in the Minsk agreement at a time the whole east from Kharkov , Donbass to Odessa was politically pro Russia and specifically when they had encircled the Ukranian army in Donbass and defeated them. The request to let them free and accept a ceasefire was the beginning of the end of Russian influence in Ukraine.
Because what followed next was all pro Russian  media was banned and the media owners lefr to operate brainwashed Ukrainians one of the reason you have Zelenski a comedian becoming a President as he was sponsored by a Media Oligarch.
So to expect little or no resistance feom Ukraine is complete Hogwash taking in consideration NATO had been training and giving weapons to Ukraine since 2014 in addition majority of Ukrainian army had real battle experience from the Donbass war.  So the anology of Mayors surrendering is just an opinion. Putin knew what was happening in Ukraine and he knew Ukraine was going to start a fully fledged war in Donbass by March followed by Crimea  so he had to either stop one way or the other . He tried to negotiate with U.S. and NATO they shwoed him the middle finger so he decided to use War to make them listen.Only a day to the war did Bidden accept to concede to Russian propasal but on "principle"

Russian Military has avoided Civilian areas as much as possible, its the Azov Militia who have been using Hospitals , Kindergattens and Apartments to launch their attacks with counterattacks leading to causalties.
If They were targetting Civilians like that they would have rargeted Verkhnova Rada(Ukraine Parliament)  with cruse missiles as they are capable of launching from their territory and ships in White/Baltic and Black sea.

In regards to casualties you are spot on.
Finally I think Putin has eventually concluded this thing is for rhe long haul , so he is recruting more soldiers who now will be rotating and has decided to put all efforts in the East and South , with Lugansk ane Donestsk already liberated focus now will be on the other regions like Kherson, Odessa, Summy ,Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, Zaporizhzhia and Dnipropetrovsk
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Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 05, 2022, 09:05:43 PM
They are literally trying to secure their objective while fleeing. It never works like that. They should have crushed Ukraine before they carve out those regions. Now Ukraine will reclaim those regions.
Njuri ncheke.... What was Russia's primary objective going into Ukraine? Has it been accomplished? That is a good starting point to end to this debate.

They are not even sure about the borders. 

Zelenskyy was saying something along the lines that they don't care where Putin thinks Russia ends.  That their job is going after the Russians, killing them and restoring Ukraine's authority. 
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 09:54:51 PM
Continue your naive believe that Ukraine is winning.  As we speak they just lost four of their most productive regions and in the next months four more might be gone including Odessa and Kharkov.  Don't be fooled by the retreat up in Kharkov because it is way too close to the border and thus easier to overrun in the future. Smart folks starting with Kissinger and lately Musk are basically saying what everyone knows.  Eventually Putin will have his way and there is nothing we can do about it. Let's compare notes in a few months.
You claim or annex 4 regions where neither Putin nor you know where the boundary is..... laughable
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 05, 2022, 09:59:06 PM
More than 30 countries sending weapons to Ukraine; Russia is kaput.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 10:04:24 PM
More than 30 countries sending weapons to Ukraine; Russia is kaput.
As Russia remains clueless against HIMARS, there are other modern weapons I never had a clue ...

Check out this monster looking anti-drone rifle from a NATO country .... when Russia was investing in Iranian drones, they didn't reckon the West already has figured out how to neutralize the UAVs

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Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 10:43:36 PM
This Russian tank crew in Kheson region doing the right thing. Saved themselves from a Javelin

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Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 05, 2022, 10:49:16 PM
The Morale here is on another level. It is like mad max movie only that it is real. Do or die to break through lines under artillery fire.

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Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Georgesoros on October 05, 2022, 11:09:43 PM
Never attack anyone at their home. They will fight to death.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 05, 2022, 11:20:18 PM
As you brainwashed guys rejoicing and celebrating Ukraine "advances" Biggest Nuclear plant is now Russian owned.
Simply a case of Western media blowing it own horn
https://www.rt.com/russia/564119-putin-zaporozhye-nuclear-plant/
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on October 05, 2022, 11:42:41 PM
Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 06, 2022, 12:14:53 AM
This Russian tank crew in Kheson region doing the right thing. Saved themselves from a Javelin

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The Ukrainians seem pretty well trained and disciplined.  No wonder some folks(including Russians on the battlefield) are mistaking them for NATO.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 12:42:25 AM

Since the begining of the special operation we have always been told how Ukraine is winning so how come now Russia is retreating if Ukraine were holding onto their positions. Dont you think something is not adding up.
Bro Njuri I have always been consistent with truth . You can attest to this. I can tell you for free in Kharkhov/Kharhiv Ukrainian forces did advance in the 4 oblasts which Have joined Russia its just Western Propaganda .


Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2022, 03:23:58 AM
So if they cut oil production, next comes a worldwide recession, wont China et al lose the most?  Don't they depend a lot on exports? I don't get it.
Europe will freeze but that will only last 4 mos. Developing world will suffer the most.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Georgesoros on October 06, 2022, 03:27:15 AM
Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed

Am surprised you read his posts.
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2022, 09:50:22 AM
Exactly to the point.

Some people here busy telling us how Russia will soon come out big. Game is over. Russia should have captured Kyiv in the first 4 weeks and broken the moral of the Ukranians. Now Ukraine is highly motivated and its allies seeing that it is worth it to arm the Ukranians.

Never attack anyone at their home. They will fight to death.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2022, 09:54:43 AM
I do too read his post and have been trying to have our brother come back to reality.

Ukranians have a lot to loose and will fight to the end. Russian soldiers are totally clueless of what they are fighting for in Ukraine.

Am surprised you read his posts. :D :D :D
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 06, 2022, 10:21:18 AM
Did you just turn 18?
So if they cut oil production, next comes a worldwide recession, ...
Is this the first time you are hearing of a cut in oil production? OPEC cuts production all the time as a strategy to stabilize oil prices whenever they fall below a threshold. The OPEC club made up of 15 countries are always careful not to upset markets. As some member here already pointed out, 2M barrels is only 2% world production. It won't hurt the oil producing exports. That reduction in production is more than made up when the 98% costs more. The 15 nations that are a member of OPEC own over 81.5% of the world's oil reserves. They won't shoot themselves in the foot.
See there is a difference, if a resource isn't available on the market it won't matter even if you have the money. On the other hand, if it is albeit in reduced quantities, and it is a necessity, and you have cash at hand, you will pay more for it. Economics 101.
Don't they depend a lot on exports? I don't get it.
When I was in primary school, my geography teacher always reminded us that fossil fuels were not sustainable and one day will run out. Oil producing countries know these and have for years embarked on projects to diversify exports so as we speak and with an eye on the future Oil countries are weaning off dependence on oil and doing other things for a livelihood other than just oil. If you "don't get it" go ask for a refund from your primary school
Europe will freeze but that will only last 4 mos.....
Of greatest concern is keeping warm in Winter. Europe/America uses Natural gas for that not oil. The main exporter of Natural gas in EurAsia is Russia. They have weaponized it against Europe and are hell bent on cutting off supply because of the matter in Ukraine. Europe is scrambling to see where they can get alternative supply before Winter sets in. Despite best efforts, at the last check Europe still need the 9% from Russia.
Wont China et al lose the most? .... Developing world will suffer the most.
True Developing countries get affected most because a more costly product eats into their meagre foreign exchange reserve unlike China who will take the higher prices in stride coz their economy can absorb the small hike. But then again as OPEC points out, ask developing Governments to look into the high taxes and partner with OPEC in developing renewable sources.

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Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 06, 2022, 10:44:18 AM
Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Indeed Moscow has todate not figured out how to counter the HIMARS menace. Out of 16 HIMARS systems sent to Ukraine they have not captured nor destroyed a single one. Without a sample how where do they start? Instead it is said the top commanders have opted to stay at least 50 miles from the front line to stay out of HIMARS range leaving front line troops under direct command of junior officers and supply lines over-extended. Moscow slowly finding out they are in a war against opponents highly motivated and with superior firepower and resources.
But that is as far as I gree with you @Njuri. Ukraine's limit will be to get its 1991 borders back without fear of having their gains reversed. They could have gone knocking at Moscow if Russia didn't have nukes. History is littered with victories in conflict by smaller nation. Look up the definition of War of attrition. Vietnam prevailed against US, Afghanistan prevailed against separate conflicts against both Russia and the US all through fighting back via wars of attrition. If you define The Mau Mau uprising as a war of liberation from British rule then this too was a war of attrition because in the end the British left after coming to grips with the scale of the insurgency.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 06, 2022, 11:05:37 AM
Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: patel on October 06, 2022, 11:19:43 AM
Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2022, 01:02:09 PM
Keep on dreaming.

Btw, do you think a collapsed European economy is in China's interests?

Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse :o.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 01:45:21 PM

Actually its the High-speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM) which has impacted on Russias Air Defence system.
Just like all wars in a matter of weeks Russia will get a solution to overcome the HARM .
HIMARS was not that effective with Russian Radar system playing a critical role.
HARM is forcing Russians to switch off their radar system . Making Ukraine use their drones and missiles without any interuption.
A solution is in the making. Remember Hitler had better machinery at start of WWII but by the end of the war his machinery had been aped and U.S.S.R. had better and more effective machinery. Once the HARM is captured they will ape the same technology and use it against Ukraine .
Its very well known Ukraine is using Western  satellites in the war . This is where Russia need to decide how to go about it without dragging other countries in the conflict. Putin had indicated anything in Ukraine is a fair game to them . Even Satellite waves should be fair game.


Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed
Indeed Moscow has todate not figured out how to counter the HIMARS menace. Out of 16 HIMARS systems sent to Ukraine they have not captured nor destroyed a single one. Without a sample how where do they start? Instead it is said the top commanders have opted to stay at least 50 miles from the front line to stay out of HIMARS range leaving front line troops under direct command of junior officers and supply lines over-extended. Moscow slowly finding out they are in a war against opponents highly motivated and with superior firepower and resources.
But that is as far as I gree with you @Njuri. Ukraine's limit will be to get its 1991 borders back without fear of having their gains reversed. They could have gone knocking at Moscow if Russia didn't have nukes. History is littered with victories in conflict by smaller nation. Look up the definition of War of attrition. Vietnam prevailed against US, Afghanistan prevailed against separate conflicts against both Russia and the US all through fighting back via wars of attrition. If you define The Mau Mau uprising as a war of liberation from British rule then this too was a war of attrition because in the end the British left after coming to grips with the scale of the insurgency.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 01:55:39 PM

Russians are fighting to prevent NATO ever attacking it. If Putin had not started the special military operation . In 10 years NATO would have initiated a war against Crimea essentialy direct conflict with Russia and redo what they did in U.S.S.R. Russia is Federation of more than 20+ Republics . Meaning from Russia there would be 20+ new nations. More business opportunities for Military Industry complex as those 20+ nations would try to join NATO to fend itself from Russia and in doing so buy military equipment from NATO countries. Basically there would be more 20+ Ukraine trying to Join NATO and EU. Furthermore those 20+ republics are very wealthy in mineral gas and oil actually majority of Russian exports come from those 20 + republics.
Having said that I dont expect people brainwashed by Western Media to understand what is happening in Ukraine. Same way you have never understood why Majority of Africa is French speaking Nations and are always having Coups or Civil war.
You need to tell us where Ukraine as a nation came from and why in 1991. Most of the people fighting were born in U.S.S.R. their passports bears place of Birth as U.S.S.R. but you are here telling us Ukraine are fighting for Survival.


Noway you amaze.with your stubborness Russia is done for, nothing good coming out am analyzing all reprts available together with clips and satellite maps and I can tell you for sure Russia is on the backfoot am speaking as an independent military analyst, i haven't been following the war till this week when Ukraine claimed to recapture areas in the east and everything backs their claims of course with some exaggerated figures but overall accurate. Moscow military is clueless  however Ukraine should sue for peace they have limits to how far they can push Russia,their gains could be easily reversed

Am surprised you read his posts.
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 04:26:58 PM
Echoing Western Media. people need to reduce the addiction of Western Media Kool aid.


Exactly to the point.

Some people here busy telling us how Russia will soon come out big. Game is over. Russia should have captured Kyiv in the first 4 weeks and broken the moral of the Ukranians. Now Ukraine is highly motivated and its allies seeing that it is worth it to arm the Ukranians.

Never attack anyone at their home. They will fight to death.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 04:29:22 PM

i dont take you guys seriously same guys who were yapping Raila will win 2022 elections. Same people saying Ukraine is winning.
Who would you belive the person who predicted Ruto will win or person who predicted Raila will win.

I do too read his post and have been trying to have our brother come back to reality.

Ukranians have a lot to loose and will fight to the end. Russian soldiers are totally clueless of what they are fighting for in Ukraine.

Am surprised you read his posts. :D :D :D
Russians don't know what they are fighting for. Ukraine is fighting for survival.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 04:37:06 PM
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2022, 04:38:56 PM
So which media apart from RT do you echo?

Echoing Western Media :o. people need to reduce the addiction of Western Media Kool aid.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 04:39:28 PM
It is , it will give an edge for China in emerging markets particularly Asia,South America ,Africa and middle east. Just ask Britain what happened to them ……

Keep on dreaming.

Btw, do you think a collapsed European economy is in China's interests?

Sanctions only work for small economies. As long as Putin has Chinese and Indian market he can keep this war going until European economies collapse :o.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kadudu on October 06, 2022, 04:45:22 PM
Nowy...., Putin turns 70 tomorrow. Do you have your invitation card? Sure he thinks positive of such a fanatic disciple.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 06, 2022, 04:54:31 PM
They will get curse elsewhere including fraking their own gas if need be.
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 05:03:04 PM
A feat they could achieve since the end of World War 2 in 1945.


They will get curse elsewhere including fraking their own gas if need be.
The current World Order is in Jeoprady. Cost of living has gone high in Western countries. Standards of living have deteriorated. Majority of Europeans are emigrating looking for opportunities in other countries .The current governments will lose majority in parliament and lose elections .Within 5 years it will be a different layout of countries.
It has been exposed that Germany managed to develop post World War 2 primarily because of cheaper and affordable Russian gas. With energy becoming expensive expect the industries to close.

Once Europe negotiate this winter gas supply - Russia leverage will be completely eroded - they will be left with Nukes.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 06, 2022, 06:19:33 PM
So which media apart from RT do you echo?

Echoing Western Media :o . people need to reduce the addiction of Western Media Kool aid.

Leading candidates, based on the little I read from him, would be IEarlgrey, Alexander Mercouris and similar types.  They are more enthusiastic of the Putin myth to a point of dismissing Putin when he doubts himself.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: audacityofhope on October 06, 2022, 08:08:25 PM
i dont take you guys seriously same guys who were yapping Raila will win 2022 elections. Same people saying Ukraine is winning.
Who would you belive the person who predicted Ruto will win or person who predicted Raila will win.
If that is the sole reason you bring to this argument on this thread then I would expect you would have no problem believing the likes of @RVPundit and @Njuri, @RVHH ... but obviously you are not EITHER. This is a public discussion forum and it is not your mother's. It is a disservice for you to derail threads where members are here for debate by introducing sideshows and other topics, when you could just as easily have opened another thread and taken that topic there for a separate discussion - if it is current and merits one. No one holds a gun to your head to respond to a post when you could just ignore it and whether one takes you seriously or not is not anybody's problem. What becomes of predictions persons here make here on Nipate does not add the size of ugali on our tables. Kumbaff.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 06, 2022, 08:37:22 PM

Im a real person , I speak the truth , Njuri , RVHH are influenced by their migrant countries  Njuri lived in Germany for a minute and RVHH has succeeded in U.S.
Pundit just changed sides like a week ago,
Audacity its always good to stick with truth and reality.  When Pundit was saying Kalonzo will go it alone , I told him he will eventually move back to Azimio. When Pundit was saying Violence is one of the cards in play and told him to forget Violence .We had a bitter fallout .When RVHH was saying Pokots will vote en mass for Ruto I gave past historical data and told him even during Mois time 30% were voting the other side.
There is a reason Im called NOWAYHAHA. 3 years down the lane you will attest to what Ive been saying .By then we will have a New President in U.S. and New World Order likely the current U.N. will be reforemed .Putin is not naive all he is doing is executing a plan which had been set up 25 years ago although admittedly very late.
So stop catching feelings when I bring Azimios loss in this thread it is just but a measure of discussions we have.

i dont take you guys seriously same guys who were yapping Raila will win 2022 elections. Same people saying Ukraine is winning.
Who would you belive the person who predicted Ruto will win or person who predicted Raila will win.
If that is the sole reason you bring to this argument on this thread then I would expect you would have no problem believing the likes of @RVPundit and @Njuri, @RVHH ... but obviously you are not EITHER. This is a public discussion forum and it is not your mother's. It is a disservice for you to derail threads where members are here for debate by introducing sideshows and other topics, when you could just as easily have opened another thread and taken that topic there for a separate discussion - if it is current and merits one. No one holds a gun to your head to respond to a post when you could just ignore it and whether one takes you seriously or not is not anybody's problem. What becomes of predictions persons here make here on Nipate does not add the size of ugali on our tables. Kumbaff.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: RV Pundit on October 06, 2022, 09:03:18 PM
Nowayaha. My fidelity is only to facts. Putin is in a big hole. As much as I support multi-laterism - I think China is too cautious to make it happen soon.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: lelewela on October 06, 2022, 11:31:21 PM
the only way out for putin is either nuclear or he be killed by some general, it is too tough for him, he did bite more than he chew.

China is eyeing the collapse of Russia so that they can claim a chunk of it too, there is no friend in  this world only interest  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 07, 2022, 04:07:29 AM
the only way out for putin is either nuclear or he be killed by some general, it is too tough for him, he did bite more than he chew.

China is eyeing the collapse of Russia so that they can claim a chunk of it too, there is no friend in  this world only interest  :D :D :D

He should be able to withdraw and finagle an excuse.  His base will cut him slack.  They are the Russian version of Trumpists.  They might even reincarnate him as a peacemaker.  The other option is being kicked out by Ukrainians with zero dignity.  That might rattle even his hardcore supporters.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 07, 2022, 08:03:25 AM

Multilaresim which came about post first World War and later Post Second World War only came about after status quo was shafted . That is what Putin is doing. The soft life in Europe and U.S. is in jeoprady. Cost of living has hit the roof , Regimes are changing albeit legally , Britain, Itally , Sweden have new regimes , Its an ongoing process in 3 years time it will be a completely new landscape politically wise in Europe and U.S. With that comes different policies and perspectives and with that comes a New World Order. Prior to start of World War 2 . Stalin and U.S.S.R. had bren sanctioned by U.S. to the core because of Communism by end or World War 2 . U.S. and Stalin were sitting in the same table redwaring boundaries of Europe.  Change of World Order is done by tact and might.


Nowayaha. My fidelity is only to facts. Putin is in a big hole. As much as I support multi-laterism - I think China is too cautious to make it happen soon.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 07, 2022, 08:09:11 AM

People are very shallow in Geopolitics......


the only way out for putin is either nuclear or he be killed by some general, it is too tough for him, he did bite more than he chew.

China is eyeing the collapse of Russia so that they can claim a chunk of it too, there is no friend in  this world only interest  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Nowayhaha on October 07, 2022, 08:20:12 AM

Putin is one of the moderate Generals. His supporters are cut from a different cloth. His supporters are not of the Dolce and Gabbana , His supporters are the Believers of Peter the Great and Catherine.
They make a substantial number of citizens in Russia. Majoritybof his supporters are the ones who emigrated from former USSR countries after fall U.S.S.R. Majority from NovoRussia. What is now Donabass,  Xerson , Odessa , Kharkhiv, etc. Biggest Pop bands in Russia were Russians of Ukraine origin .
So if you think his mission in Ukraine is misguided. Majority of Russians think he only started it late. NovoRussia land going to Polish Ukraine is an Omen to Russians. In retrospect this  a continuation of the Pol-Rus war ........

the only way out for putin is either nuclear or he be killed by some general, it is too tough for him, he did bite more than he chew.

China is eyeing the collapse of Russia so that they can claim a chunk of it too, there is no friend in  this world only interest  :D :D :D

He should be able to withdraw and finagle an excuse.  His base will cut him slack.  They are the Russian version of Trumpists.  They might even reincarnate him as a peacemaker.  The other option is being kicked out by Ukrainians with zero dignity.  That might rattle even his hardcore supporters.
Title: Re: Poor Putin didnt see this coming
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 07, 2022, 01:41:18 PM

Putin is one of the moderate Generals. His supporters are cut from a different cloth. His supporters are not of the Dolce and Gabbana , His supporters are the Believers of Peter the Great and Catherine.
They make a substantial number of citizens in Russia. Majoritybof his supporters are the ones who emigrated from former USSR countries after fall U.S.S.R. Majority from NovoRussia. What is now Donabass,  Xerson , Odessa , Kharkhiv, etc. Biggest Pop bands in Russia were Russians of Ukraine origin .
So if you think his mission in Ukraine is misguided. Majority of Russians think he only started it late. NovoRussia land going to Polish Ukraine is an Omen to Russians. In retrospect this  a continuation of the Pol-Rus war ........

the only way out for putin is either nuclear or he be killed by some general, it is too tough for him, he did bite more than he chew.

China is eyeing the collapse of Russia so that they can claim a chunk of it too, there is no friend in  this world only interest  :D :D :D

He should be able to withdraw and finagle an excuse.  His base will cut him slack.  They are the Russian version of Trumpists.  They might even reincarnate him as a peacemaker.  The other option is being kicked out by Ukrainians with zero dignity.  That might rattle even his hardcore supporters.

Zelenskyy doesn’t care.  So I guess they get their butts kicked out.