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Title: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: sema on September 27, 2022, 09:03:34 PM
He was supposedly found dead in his house with foam coming out of his mouth.  Apparently his son also fell ill and is in the hospital. It doesn't sound like a natural cause of death.
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Post by: RV Pundit on September 28, 2022, 10:28:06 AM
Look like poisoning by wife and relatives
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Post by: gout on September 28, 2022, 11:18:52 AM
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: RV Pundit on September 28, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
very painful to watch..many dysfunctional families.
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Post by: Githunguri on September 28, 2022, 12:50:40 PM
Never stay in a troubled marriage.It will cost your life.

If it starts with drama,It will end in drama (poisoning promiscuity violence gun war)

Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: KenyanPlato on September 28, 2022, 01:02:04 PM
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 28, 2022, 02:51:17 PM
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 28, 2022, 03:10:26 PM
Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
There is a possibility, especially in Kenya. Killers cover their tracks by exploiting existing victim's challenges. If death is marriage-related, it is something to do with money, infidelity, or property, especially when couple are middle-aged (35-50 range is tough for married folks). For unmarried, divorced and other rejects, 36-85 is suicidal (Bonkers territory; they seem together until they explode). You don't want to be divorced or unmarried at age 40+ in conservatives societies like Kenya. It looks like alcohol killed him!
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: gout on September 28, 2022, 03:28:33 PM
She is in pain and a bit disjointed. The gaps are connecting. During graduation, Gicheru's grandfather to said ameoa muoto. She used to sneak out through windows- weird for a graduate?! Going where??

Talks about 200 cows in hands of wife's brother - chased Paul's brother from managing the plot and the cows.

Then tembo- Gicheru, wife and kids drinking together at home. Says she called every Sunday, and he was incoherent at times. Wife was drunk too. Talked this Monday.

Says she had been poisoned once by soda.

Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 28, 2022, 04:33:36 PM
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!
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Post by: Githunguri on September 28, 2022, 06:13:06 PM
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!

Agreed.

People who have been divorced or separated from their spouses tend to be very bitter because of the trauma they have undergone through..either violence cheating spouses financial enslavement through child support while the other partner has random sex partners and women coughing children to hate daddy..

If you marry your friend lifelong happiness but if you marry a crazy person you are messed up.

Any sensible man should not marry a woman past 25 years,avoid ßingle mum's and peopl3 from broken families otherwise UTALIJUA JIJI.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: GeeMail on September 28, 2022, 09:13:03 PM
Ouko was supposed to have been entangled in a love thing too.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 28, 2022, 10:14:52 PM
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!

Agreed.

People who have been divorced or separated from their spouses tend to be very bitter because of the trauma they have undergone through..either violence cheating spouses financial enslavement through child support while the other partner has random sex partners and women coughing children to hate daddy..

If you marry your friend lifelong happiness but if you marry a crazy person you are messed up.

Any sensible man should not marry a woman past 25 years,avoid ßingle mum's and peopl3 from broken families otherwise UTALIJUA JIJI.
African customs and traditions were ahead of time. From Nigeria to Limpompo, most African tribes used to research the family before marriage negotiations could begin. Spies used to be sent to investigate the mother and family for defects and how the relationship with the husband and extended family rolled before making a call on whether to initiate further engagement. That was brilliant, and folks today should do it as well. Also, I think men should also be included. If the father is stubborn, alcoholic, cheater, violent or abusive, sons may also turn out the same. It shouldn't be only the women's side being investigated before engaging in courtship.
Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: sema on September 28, 2022, 11:02:41 PM
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Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!

17 might be too young to tell how someone is going to turn out, but by 25 you should have an idea. So, I'd say between 22-26 after 30, people don't change and that might be a benefit if you meet someone at that age because what you see is what you are going to get.

And upbringing is very important (very few people are able to over come poor upbringing's and in Kenya, with all the poverty, you will be getting people coming out of extreme circumstances and with too many trauma's.
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Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on September 28, 2022, 11:36:26 PM
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Yes, meeting the spouse at 17-25 is a perfect time. Anyone above 26-29 is getting borderline crazy, but after 31 and beyond is bonkers territory. 30-somethings with kids and are single are rattlesnakes waiting to bite. Engage them at your own risk!

17 might be too young to tell how someone is going to turn out, but by 25 you should have an idea. So, I'd say between 22-26 after 30, people don't change and that might be a benefit if you meet someone at that age because what you see is what you are going to get.

And upbringing is very important (very few people are able to over come poor upbringing's and in Kenya, with all the poverty, you will be getting people coming out of extreme circumstances and with too many trauma's.
From 16 to 18, it could be childhood/school/church/village friend. If you marry those early friends when they hit 22+, they turn out to be life partners, according to a peer-reviewed Nigerian scholar who did research. I think friendships developed between the ages of 17 and 25 are pure and free of experience lessons that damage the human psyche. After 30 people are naturally polluted and, even if they are good, they may be too cautious or internally damaged by the process. Those old folk with kids and unmarried are much worse. I think poverty has no concrete links with relationships down the road, but alcoholism, illiteracy, and other upbringing constructs could be significant in that space. 
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Post by: Wa Njambi on September 28, 2022, 11:39:10 PM
Slow down Tami!    Families know aaaaalot. Give her the benefit of doubt. If you wait for DCI to avoid bias, good luck with that. She's saying...round up the usual suspect. Even a detective would want to hear this from fmly, would he/she NOT?????????

Mother is saying it was dysfunctional family. Why are people living like this.


She rushes to conclusions.  It's possible they were dysfunctional, and their enemies took advantage of this fact.  Most dysfunctional families just tread the water without any major disasters.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: RV Pundit on September 28, 2022, 11:44:26 PM
Huge part of life; is being lucky. Lucky to be born with brains, to be surrounded with good people; marrying good wife; being healthy; then of course being responsible.

I'd say 80% you can fix; 20% you cannot.
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Post by: KenyanPlato on September 29, 2022, 06:16:35 AM
yes marriage is the worst institution. a modern slavery with one purpose for one person to sell sex to the other. fuck marriage
You must be an old demented divorcee or aging, unmarried crazy person. Bona fide marriage is the most fantastic event in one's life; it is the foundation of family stability, free wet-dripping sex, success, and Joy!

I work with married people all the time. especially the modern marriage is just a mess. most couples are together for convenience. if you do financial planning and estate planning you will realize how marriage is the worst institution to ever be invented. in agrarian communities marriage makes sense but in today's world you marry just to conform to societal pressure. in the most free societies like America 50% of marriages end in the 1st 10 years. look at Rachel and ruto. Rachel is getting cheated on and abused but because she has to fulfill her religious duty she stays married to the beast. Anyway kila nyani na starehe yake.
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Post by: gout on September 29, 2022, 01:53:59 PM
The issue of OWNERSHIP under capitalism needs legal, political, religious and cultural exorcism especially in a poor country with limited opportunities. I OWN you, Don't dare talk to your parents or any (wo)man.  I OWN you so what you OWN is Mine.

Child support laws, clear divorce laws, succession laws, political discourses, church leaders, name it.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: sema on September 29, 2022, 04:41:57 PM
Huge part of life; is being lucky. Lucky to be born with brains, to be surrounded with good people; marrying good wife; being healthy; then of course being responsible.

I'd say 80% you can fix; 20% you cannot.

Luck also involves what country you are born in and I am increasingly seeing the importance of being born in the right country.  Being born in the US or Sweden increases your luck quotient exponentially. Being born in any sub-african country decreases your luck quotient exponentially.
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Post by: RV Pundit on September 29, 2022, 04:59:15 PM
Yes it's big fortune to be born in developed world. That is why we should not look down on others. We are not 100 percent responsible for our success or failures - part of it down to some fortunate of nature or nurture. Huge part of life is RANDOMIZER that churn out luck like a rottery.

However we are responsible for great deal of what happens to us and should take responsibility. Stay humble always.

Luck also involves what country you are born in and I am increasingly seeing the importance of being born in the right country.  Being born in the US or Sweden increases your luck quotient exponentially. Being born in any sub-african country decreases your luck quotient exponentially.
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Post by: KenyanPlato on September 29, 2022, 05:45:26 PM
if my dad had not walked into a bank hall and asked wazungus if they hired African I would probably have been born in poverty or not born at all. He told me he was in moi Avenue shopping on a weekday. saw an job ad on the window of the foreign bank. asked the security if he go in amx talk to the hr manager. he got in asked if they would hire him with his experience working as a clerk at ministry of livestock vet department. they told him to come the following Monday for interview. he was hired on the spot and ended up working in banking sector for 35 years.

the way I passed ksce was like I was destined. I had not been studying until in form 3 when I decided I got make one last ditch effort to at least get a grade good enough to land me a diploma course. I commenced a meeting with all my friends
 we decided to form an informal study group with one aim to source all leaks we can get from national schools. the good thing most of the guys I was friends with had friends in mangu and alliance plus the then headmaster had found out tat alliance and mang'u were using leaked questions to review for ksce. with this info we divided ourselves into trams. each team was to be expert in the subjects and prepare other students. I took history and literature. I prepares summaries shared them with others. we called them mwakenyas. we then went into maths and picked 6 lessons that we knew it was a must know to pass we reviewed them we did this with all subjects. we had 2 years to prepare. by the time exam came we were ready and I can tell you when I walked into school and saw I had scored a B I was super excited

I got admitted into aviation school in Wilson but my instructor had an emergency and had to be off for 21 days. then I got an admission letter from uni in states and left Wilson to pursue that. all in my life I have been lucky lucky. born into the right family and then given a natural above average brain.

I agree luck is everything in life.
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Post by: RV Pundit on September 29, 2022, 06:32:25 PM
Yes, we need to be humble, I know people who were smart, but they are now in a mess, mostly because they lacked school fees. Cancer also taught me that health we have is fickle - I had been lucky to be born in a family nobody got sick for years -  my father was so cocky because his parents and uncles - siblings - nobody was ever sick - then worse cancer hit him and he had six months - and cancer was discovered on my sister burial. This life is crazy.  One minute you're winning - next minute you're losing. One minute in Karen - next minute dead.
if my dad had not walked into a bank hall and asked wazungus if they hired African I would probably have been born in poverty or not born at all. He told me he was in moi Avenue shopping on a weekday. saw an job ad on the window of the foreign bank. asked the security if he go in amx talk to the hr manager. he got in asked if they would hire him with his experience working as a clerk at ministry of livestock vet department. they told him to come the following Monday for interview. he was hired on the spot and ended up working in banking sector for 35 years.

the way I passed ksce was like I was destined. I had not been studying until in form 3 when I decided I got make one last ditch effort to at least get a grade good enough to land me a diploma course. I commenced a meeting with all my friends
 we decided to form an informal study group with one aim to source all leaks we can get from national schools. the good thing most of the guys I was friends with had friends in mangu and alliance plus the then headmaster had found out tat alliance and mang'u were using leaked questions to review for ksce. with this info we divided ourselves into trams. each team was to be expert in the subjects and prepare other students. I took history and literature. I prepares summaries shared them with others. we called them mwakenyas. we then went into maths and picked 6 lessons that we knew it was a must know to pass we reviewed them we did this with all subjects. we had 2 years to prepare. by the time exam came we were ready and I can tell you when I walked into school and saw I had scored a B I was super excited

I got admitted into aviation school in Wilson but my instructor had an emergency and had to be off for 21 days. then I got an admission letter from uni in states and left Wilson to pursue that. all in my life I have been lucky lucky. born into the right family and then given a natural above average brain.

I agree luck is everything in life.
Title: Re: Who Killed Paul Gichuru ICC Lawyer?
Post by: sema on September 29, 2022, 06:41:05 PM
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Yes, we need to be humble, I know people who were smart, but they are now in a mess, mostly because they lacked school fees. Cancer also taught me that health we have is fickle - I had been lucky to be born in a family nobody got sick for years -  my father was so cocky because his parents and uncles - siblings - nobody was ever sick - then worse cancer hit him and he had six months - and cancer was discovered on my sister burial. This life is crazy.  One minute you're winning - next minute you're losing. One minute in Karen - next minute dead.

Yes. The answer I have found is to just be adaptable and to be willing to change whenever life's circumstances smack you in the face.  Don't whine, don't drown in your sorrows, just find a way to adapt, change and do you want you need to do.  E.g. Many kenyans left the country when the economy collapsed for their own economic survival. Some refused to leave and were destroyed economically and ended up becoming alcoholics.

Willingness to Change is essential in this unpredictable life.