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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on September 14, 2022, 10:41:25 AM
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My proposal
1) Be cost sensitive on poor mostly rural kids
2) Junior secondary should be domiciled in existing primary - kids to proceed to std 7,8 - gives gov two years to build one extra class. Gov to hire or transfer junior high school teachers to primary school- so graduate teachers teach from class 7-9 - many in primary schools already have graduate degrees. Primary school should have one principal - primary head teacher - and junior secondary had teacher.
3) Secondary will therefore start from 10,11,12 - senior secondary teach them A level - for those academically inclined
4) University to take three years.
You cant have class 7 kids joining existing high school..that is Ufool nonsense.
The extra classroom will fix capacity challenges in high schools...can also become computer labs or tech labs
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Prof Wandia Njoya as a teacher needs to be part of or given enough airtime in the taskforce. She sounds selfless.
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It appears cbc might be killed.I wish we did evaluation of the kids on basic reading and maths skills like Pisa..so we know if the system is flawed or not
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Seems nothing much will come out of it. Wandia's point that teachers are playing god, is true of all other aspects of mwafrika life- everyone wants to solve all problems except the problems they are supposed to solve. Main reason why nothing moves in Afrika.
IMF conditions are about to kill university education.
http://www.wandianjoya.com/blog/we-need-a-national-philosophy-of-education
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Wandia is full of BS. She should concentrate on university education. Education system we need should work in Turkana or Mandera. She should explain clearly how any of her lofty self-promotion ideas will be practically implemented in grass thatched or a school under a tree.
If not she can take her lofty ideas to private or international schools. Gov are dealing with what they got - not the ideal situation. What they have are teachers already in the field - most of them are absentee :). That should what she address herself - how do we for example ensure teachers are always in class.
The rest of nonsense I read sound like self-promotion BS. She needs to visit ministry of education in Jogoo house - I spend few times there working for UN - and you'll understand just the grim reality - even the toilets at ministry dont work. Then take a visit to Kibera and go to a slum school. Then come, wipe your shoes off the shiet and now write NON-BS articles. Otherwise go to an international school with unlimited resources and give them world class recommendation
We need people like Bridges Academies - with real life experience dealing with public school in poor country - not slay queens like her.
Seems nothing much will come out of it. Wandia's point that teachers are playing god, is true of all other aspects of mwafrika life- everyone wants to solve all problems except the problems they are supposed to solve. Main reason why nothing moves in Afrika.
IMF conditions are about to kill university education.
http://www.wandianjoya.com/blog/we-need-a-national-philosophy-of-education
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You cannot blame Wandias of lofty ideas while she has been again the same lofty nonsense in education. It is the govt mandarins who introduced the lofty CBC confusion with no regard for Turkana and Kibera.
Why insist on an expensive experiment while we are struggling with teachers' shortages in Wajir, Turkana. Apart from teachers, broke govt has to scramble to build classrooms and labs in primary schools- further disadvantaging the Turkanas you claim to defend.
With CA and IEBC showing most schools are covered by 3G network it should not be a big deal to check teachers' absenteeism. Already most schools have simple check in register systems in place at minimal costs.
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You cannot blame Wandias of lofty ideas while she has been again the same lofty nonsense in education. It is the govt mandarins who introduced the lofty CBC confusion with no regard for Turkana and Kibera.
Why insist on an expensive experiment while we are struggling with teachers' shortages in Wajir, Turkana. Apart from teachers, broke govt has to scramble to build classrooms and labs in primary schools- further disadvantaging the Turkanas you claim to defend.
With CA and IEBC showing most schools are covered by 3G network it should not be a big deal to check teachers' absenteeism. Already most schools have simple check in register systems in place at minimal costs.
if you ask me we should listen to people like bright academies who've created education system out of slums
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Bridge is in the urban slums which fair far better than Turkanas and Wajirs. The Working party should have offered advisory on TSC teachers hiring. As shown by Elijah Kimani analysis Turkanas will be even more disadvantaged especially given the reversal of delocalization policy.
TSC advertised 35,550 Positions for teachers (both permanent (10,000) and interns (25,550)) cutting across Primary Schools (5,000), Secondary School (9,000) and Junior SS (21,550)
What caught my attention is the distribution of the teachers across the counties as published in the TSC website. An example is with the 4,000 Primary School Teachers Interns who are to be distributed almost equally (85) across the 47 counties (with a slight variation of ±1)
Okay, the word “distribution” here may mean two meaning (1) either allocation of number of interns to be recruited from each county eg. 85 interns to be recruited from Nyeri, Siaya and any other county; or, (2) posting distribution implying an almost equal number of posting in each county; e.g. Nyeri to receive 85 inters and so is Siaya or any other county
1. In either way, the equal allocation doesn’t hold any statistical perspective and is subjective and biased
2. Simply, the 47 counties in the country don’t have a similar demand for teachers to warrant an equal distribution, and if assuming the 1st meaning of the word, the 47 counties again don’t have an equal population to further warrant an equal distribution.
3. Let me use some data to demonstrate the above (especially the 2nd assumption since the 1st assumption is rather obvious), and I will use Nyeri and Wajir Counties. Simply because they had an almost equal population of 759,164 and 781,263 (2019 Census) respectively
4. Though both counties have a near similar population, the population distribution by other demographics like age differ significantly
5. For instance, using the same 2019 Census Data; Nyeri County was home to 121,417 Primary Schools going children (6-13 Years) while Wajir was home to 219,824 Primary School going children, nearly double of Nyeri
6. On the flip side, Nyeri recorded only 860 pupils out of schools (about 0.7%, from this age group) while in Wajir nearly 146,004 kids were out of school (about 66%).
7. The out of school pupils in Wajir County is very serious and should be declared a national disaster (same case with other ASAL Counties: for instance the 4 counties of Mandera, Wajir, Garissa and Marsabit are home to nearly 510,000 out of school children from 812,000 school going children (6-13 years, and similar trends for 14 to 17 years for Secondary Schools)
8. The above figures are nearly similar with the 2019 Education Statistics data by MoE which indicated that Nyeri is home to 124,881 primary school pupils and Wajir was home to 80,989 pupils (both public and private primary schools), a difference of almost 40,000 pupils in favor of Nyeri
9. While Nyeri was home to 390 public primary schools, Wajir was home to 258 in 2019, and this translated to an average school size of 260 and 252 respectively which isn’t different
This is now the problem:
10. Nyeri in 2019 was home to 3,719 Primary School Teachers (Public Schools) against Wajir which had 1,383 teachers; so, Wajir had about 37% of the teachers in Nyeri County
11. Based on the above, we can easily calculate the Pupils-Teachers Ratio (PTR); and we can easily see that in Nyeri, there are 27 pupils for every teacher; while in Wajir, from every 50 pupils, there is one teacher (I have used Public Schools enrolment)
12. The above thus indicates that a Primary School Pupil in Wajir County is twice disadvantaged compared with a pupil in Nyeri County in regards to teachers access
13. As such, the allocation of newly recruited teachers and/or inters should merely not be based on an equal distribution, but should be done based on available information and ensure impartiality
Some counties like Turkana has a PTR of 80:1, Mandera has 73:1, Nairobi has 56:1 etc.
NB: Data in any sector is key for informing and supporting evidence-based decision making and policy formulation. However, data utilization remains a key challenge to making informed decision especially in third-world countries
Data Source: 2019 Census (KNBS) and 2019 Education Statistical Booklet (MoE)
https://www.facebook.com/eldersamuel.kirichu/posts/pfbid0ReXP3tUxAXkD2KetU8nsKQVybwQaRPTpZ592jA75hVtXMutxoNMzVGfLdF4AB3PRl
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I like Elijah data speaks. The ASAL leaders need to speak up. No one else will speak for them. They also need to chip in building teacher colleges - and see if they can even hire untrained teachers or get Bridges alternative for their schools. CDF suppose to chip in too.
End of the day - public education should not be fancy - but as practical as possible - should work with kind of schools we got in turkana and slums - and leave middle class to try private academies.
Bridge is in the urban slums which fair far better than Turkanas and Wajirs. The Working party should have offered advisory on TSC teachers hiring. As shown by Elijah Kimani analysis Turkanas will be even more disadvantaged especially given the reversal of delocalization policy.
TSC advertised 35,550 Positions for teachers (both permanent (10,000) and interns (25,550)) cutting across Primary Schools (5,000), Secondary School (9,000) and Junior SS (21,550)
What caught my attention is the distribution of the teachers across the counties as published in the TSC website. An example is with the 4,000 Primary School Teachers Interns who are to be distributed almost equally (85) across the 47 counties (with a slight variation of ±1)
Okay, the word “distribution” here may mean two meaning (1) either allocation of number of interns to be recruited from each county eg. 85 interns to be recruited from Nyeri, Siaya and any other county; or, (2) posting distribution implying an almost equal number of posting in each county; e.g. Nyeri to receive 85 inters and so is Siaya or any other county
1. In either way, the equal allocation doesn’t hold any statistical perspective and is subjective and biased
2. Simply, the 47 counties in the country don’t have a similar demand for teachers to warrant an equal distribution, and if assuming the 1st meaning of the word, the 47 counties again don’t have an equal population to further warrant an equal distribution.
3. Let me use some data to demonstrate the above (especially the 2nd assumption since the 1st assumption is rather obvious), and I will use Nyeri and Wajir Counties. Simply because they had an almost equal population of 759,164 and 781,263 (2019 Census) respectively
4. Though both counties have a near similar population, the population distribution by other demographics like age differ significantly
5. For instance, using the same 2019 Census Data; Nyeri County was home to 121,417 Primary Schools going children (6-13 Years) while Wajir was home to 219,824 Primary School going children, nearly double of Nyeri
6. On the flip side, Nyeri recorded only 860 pupils out of schools (about 0.7%, from this age group) while in Wajir nearly 146,004 kids were out of school (about 66%).
7. The out of school pupils in Wajir County is very serious and should be declared a national disaster (same case with other ASAL Counties: for instance the 4 counties of Mandera, Wajir, Garissa and Marsabit are home to nearly 510,000 out of school children from 812,000 school going children (6-13 years, and similar trends for 14 to 17 years for Secondary Schools)
8. The above figures are nearly similar with the 2019 Education Statistics data by MoE which indicated that Nyeri is home to 124,881 primary school pupils and Wajir was home to 80,989 pupils (both public and private primary schools), a difference of almost 40,000 pupils in favor of Nyeri
9. While Nyeri was home to 390 public primary schools, Wajir was home to 258 in 2019, and this translated to an average school size of 260 and 252 respectively which isn’t different
This is now the problem:
10. Nyeri in 2019 was home to 3,719 Primary School Teachers (Public Schools) against Wajir which had 1,383 teachers; so, Wajir had about 37% of the teachers in Nyeri County
11. Based on the above, we can easily calculate the Pupils-Teachers Ratio (PTR); and we can easily see that in Nyeri, there are 27 pupils for every teacher; while in Wajir, from every 50 pupils, there is one teacher (I have used Public Schools enrolment)
12. The above thus indicates that a Primary School Pupil in Wajir County is twice disadvantaged compared with a pupil in Nyeri County in regards to teachers access
13. As such, the allocation of newly recruited teachers and/or inters should merely not be based on an equal distribution, but should be done based on available information and ensure impartiality
Some counties like Turkana has a PTR of 80:1, Mandera has 73:1, Nairobi has 56:1 etc.
NB: Data in any sector is key for informing and supporting evidence-based decision making and policy formulation. However, data utilization remains a key challenge to making informed decision especially in third-world countries
Data Source: 2019 Census (KNBS) and 2019 Education Statistical Booklet (MoE)
https://www.facebook.com/eldersamuel.kirichu/posts/pfbid0ReXP3tUxAXkD2KetU8nsKQVybwQaRPTpZ592jA75hVtXMutxoNMzVGfLdF4AB3PRl
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Confusion galore! Very costly to the kids and parents in the schools which lack basic facilities to host JSS.
“Primary schools with an enrolment of less than 45 learners or those lacking the basic facilities to host a JSS will serve as feeder schools to other JSSs within a two-kilometre proximity. In geographically expansive, low density and insecurity prone areas, as well as for learners with special needs and disability, the government will implement affirmative action regardless of the enrolments,” reads a circular by the ministry dated January 6.
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/education/ministry-starts-assessing-primary-schools-capacity-to-host-junior-high-4080126
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This is something that needs CAREFUL analysis. Moi rushed 844 and its been a disaster due to lack of planning and tuning to cater to changing societal needs.
844 was good but policy makers did not study it hard enough and tweek it as time went.
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This is something that needs CAREFUL analysis. Moi rushed 844 and its been a disaster due to lack of planning and tuning to cater to changing societal needs.
844 was good but policy makers did not study it hard enough and tweek it as time went.
8.4.4 had been,tweaked after 39 years it was unrecognizable from the 8.4.4 moi introduced. uhuru should have radically tweaked 8.4.4 further not introduce this cbc nonsense. cbc is government effort to create a hierarchy in education by kraaling the poor into blue. collar work