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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nowayhaha on August 19, 2022, 08:19:42 AM
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I know it doesnt matter now with Ruto having won and also I know you always refuse admitting when you are wrong.
However Raila got 210K votes there I think he would have gotten around 50 K votes if Ruto had chosen a DP from Kiambu.
The rest of Mt Kenya would still have voted for him the way they did.
Your theory of Muranga wanting their chance was all wrong.
Also Nyeri would still have voted for him regardless as was the case in Kirinyaga .
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Kenya is bigger than kiambu moron.You gain 50K but you lose elsewhere.Its already terrible to have a Kikuyu dpork but from kiambu.Yourw beyond sick. The biggest reason why Ruto struggle is because other tribes see his ticket as Kikuyu kalenjin pingpong otherwise Raila was running on empty.Ruto had to brilliantly move away to semblance of issues based camping... otherwise the biggest risk remain that other tribes feel excluded
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Politics is about numbers and facts. If it was about pleasing people then Uhuru shouldnt have run in 2013. He ran because he had numbers together with Rutos to make him PORK.
If Ruto could have chosen a Deputy not from Mt Kenya he would have been beaten mercillessly.
Kenya is bigger than kiambu moron.You gain 50K but you lose elsewhere.Its already terrible to have a Kikuyu dpork but from kiambu.Yourw beyond sick. The biggest reason why Ruto struggle is because other tribes see his ticket as Kikuyu kalenjin pingpong otherwise Raila was running on empty.Ruto had to brilliantly move away to semblance of issues based camping... otherwise the biggest risk remain that other tribes feel excluded
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2013 and now it was a very narrow win
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Kubali yaishe. You were right about North Eastern jana and had to agree. You also need to acknowledge sometimes.
2013 and now it was a very narrow win
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I acknowledge you're an idiot who doesnt consider the ramification even within GEMA itself of selecting someone from Mt kenya - leave alone outside it. You're a complete moron.
Kubali yaishe. You were right about North Eastern jana and had to agree. You also need to acknowledge sometimes.
2013 and now it was a very narrow win
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So GEMA as a community with their numbers should sit out in Presidential election.
What do you guys really want with GEMA. This year we didnt have a candidate and we supported Ruto but it is still not enough.
Mnataka nini GEMA to leave Kenya ?
I acknowledge you're an idiot who doesnt consider the ramification even within GEMA itself of selecting someone from Mt kenya - leave alone outside it. You're a complete moron.
Kubali yaishe. You were right about North Eastern jana and had to agree. You also need to acknowledge sometimes.
2013 and now it was a very narrow win
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I mean kenya is not going to Kiambu of 1970s. Grow up moron. Kiambu Uhuru replaced by Kiambu DPORK. Do you think it will sit down well with even Muranga Kikiyus? Are you just a moron or a complete moron.
So GEMA as a community with their numbers should sit out in Presidential election.
What do you guys really want with GEMA. This year we didnt have a candidate and we supported Ruto but it is still not enough.
Mnataka nini GEMA to leave Kenya ?
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Muranga have no issue with anyone apart from Raila.
Njuri has told you several times to stop pretending you know Mt Kenya politics than Mt Kenyans themselves.
I mean kenya is not going to Kiambu of 1970s. Grow up moron. Kiambu Uhuru replaced by Kiambu DPORK. Do you think it will sit down well with even Muranga Kikiyus? Are you just a moron or a complete moron.
So GEMA as a community with their numbers should sit out in Presidential election.
What do you guys really want with GEMA. This year we didnt have a candidate and we supported Ruto but it is still not enough.
Mnataka nini GEMA to leave Kenya ?
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Some things are common sense. Ruto did not even consider Kiambu for DPORK - it was already bad that he would go back with yet another Kikuyu - but double down to Kiambu - would be stupidity 101. Anyway dream on and dream on - for another Kiambu DPORK - dont see it happening soon. Maybe Ichungwa if he proves himself in 10yrs will be in contention. I dont see any in the current crop who has the qualification.
Muranga have no issue with anyone apart from Raila.
Njuri has told you several times to stop pretending you know Mt Kenya politics than Mt Kenyans themselves.
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He did but they didnt have money. Gachagua forked money out of his pockets for campaigns and Agents wages.
Some things are common sense. Ruto did not even consider Kiambu for DPORK - it was already bad that he would go back with yet another Kikuyu - but double down to Kiambu - would be stupidity 101. Anyway dream on and dream on - for another Kiambu DPORK - dont see it happening soon. Maybe Ichungwa if he proves himself in 10yrs will be in contention. I dont see any in the current crop who has the qualification.
Muranga have no issue with anyone apart from Raila.
Njuri has told you several times to stop pretending you know Mt Kenya politics than Mt Kenyans themselves.
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If only Pundit could learn a few things here and there. Then he is not Mzito Ruto.
Pundit I believe could be wishing Ruto to make a Handshake with Raila.
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/politics/article/2001453714/ruto-why-i-chose-to-have-first-thanksgiving-in-githunguri-kiambu
We decided to start our thanksgiving services in Kiambu because we got the most votes here. In Kiambu County, I got even more than in my home county Uasin Gishu. Githunguri alone gave me more than 80 per cent,” Ruto said.
“The great people of Mt Kenya have changed the politics of our country and occasioned a paradigm shift, I promise and commit not to let you down,” he added
In his speech, DP Ruto also lauded the Mount Kenya region for overwhelmingly voting in his favour, pledging to fulfil their promises.
“We will maintain these standards to steer the country forward. I want to thank you people of Mount Kenya for making me one of you by supporting me to build a country with no tribalism. I appreciate you for taking me as one of your sons and standing by me. They have buried ethnicity in the politics of Kenya,” Ruto said.
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Pundit as usual will come cursing you. I bet he has a bone to grind with Kiambu kabete kikuyu,he greatly dislikes them.
That said what is gatheca end game? And what are you planning to stop him,time.is coming fast you overrun his ichwaeri compound, before other Kenyans take over
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Noway is gatheca calculating that in event of a rerun mlima will be fatigued and wont show up?
If gatheca was Meru already we would have matchedto his homestead,Kikuyus need to deal with him period.
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You were bitter some few months ago when Kindiki was overlooked. It's already a problem that we have Kalenjin-Kikuyu pingpong - now doubling down to have seat rotate around kiambu - because it has 1m votes. That is biggest nonsense.
There is no difference btw Kiambu & Meru - only difference is that Meru was split into Tharaka Nithi - Meru combined has 1m votes versus 1m votes in Kiambu - remove nairobi. Why do you have LOW SELF ESTEEM?
So I dont buy Nowayaha absolute nonsense that Kiambu is so special. It isnt.
If you have accepted to be subservient slave to Kiambu kikuyu go ahead.
Ruto should and ought to have picked the best man for the job - after considering basic stuff like Kiambu is out of equation.
Pundit as usual will come cursing you. I bet he has a bone to grind with Kiambu kabete kikuyu,he greatly dislikes them.
That said what is gatheca end game? And what are you planning to stop him,time.is coming fast you overrun his ichwaeri compound, before other Kenyans take over
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You were bitter some few months ago when Kindiki was overlooked. It's already a problem that we have Kalenjin-Kikuyu pingpong - now doubling down to have seat rotate around kiambu - because it has 1m votes. That is biggest nonsense.
There is no difference btw Kiambu & Meru - only difference is that Meru was split into Tharaka Nithi - Meru combined has 1m votes versus 1m votes in Kiambu - remove nairobi.
So I dont buy Nowayaha absolute nonsense that Kiambu is so special. It isnt.
If you have accepted to be subservient slave to Kiambu kikuyu go ahead.
Ruto should and ought to have picked the best man for the job - after considering basic stuff like Kiambu is out of equation.
Pundit as usual will come cursing you. I bet he has a bone to grind with Kiambu kabete kikuyu,he greatly dislikes them.
That said what is gatheca end game? And what are you planning to stop him,time.is coming fast you overrun his ichwaeri compound, before other Kenyans take over
But you can see Mzito visiting there is promoting Noways narrative so he has a point though far fetched. Kiambu is not special but its symbolic
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Meru+Tharaka is 1 million plus. Kiambu is not symbolic of anything. Kiambu is just big counties that should have been split with Bungoma and Kakamega.I dont see why it should be treated any special. There is no tribe called Kiambu.
If you have low self esteem - keep it to yourself and worship Kiambu.
Ufool is from Kiambu - that automatically locked out Kiambu from this election - because other regions are also waiting.
But you can see Mzito visiting there is promoting Noways narrative so he has a point though far fetched. Kiambu is not special but its symbolic
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Hehehehe pundit you clearly hate Kiambu Kikuyu, what has that to do with Merus? Ruto didn't pick Kindiki so what coukd we have done? We look at bigger picture,Kiambus people are very proud and snobbish,this is a trait that you can't remove from them,But if we don't have a problem with them why do you??? pundit please don't bring your personal feelings be objective,am thinking maybe you had a kiambu girlfriend and she dealt you a blow,we call Kiambu women swinging door coz they hit you when you least expect :D
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Pundit we Merus don't have a problem with Kiambu, haven't seen any other mlima have the same ,we know they have self entitlement which to us is just silly, but wewe ni Mkalenjin Pundit what's your beef with them,already you can see Mzito really respects Kiambu. You can hate them but give them some respect
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He thinks I come from Kiambu and you already told him kitambo Im from Muranga.
Ruto has told him even in Uasin Ngishu he only got a mere 200K . Home County.
Uhuru knows the truth but since 2017 showed you can play monkey games through SCORK. He captured the SCORK when he got Ouko and Koome inside together with the rest of of Wakoras he thinks he cany deny Ruto his victory.
I think their plan is to steal it at SCORK. A rerun will be kichapo ya Mbwa. After knowing Mt Kenya cant be swayed by anyone they will stear clear. North Eastern also will jump ship.
Luhyas have benefited more than Rift Valley and Mt Kenya in Kenya Kwanza so expect change of mind there.
He wants SCORK to do a shoddy recount and announce Raila as President. He tried to rig Ruto through hia last minute appointments . It failed he is dead serious on his mission to stop Ruto . Expect fireworks at SCORK.
Pundit as usual will come cursing you. I bet he has a bone to grind with Kiambu kabete kikuyu,he greatly dislikes them.
That said what is gatheca end game? And what are you planning to stop him,time.is coming fast you overrun his ichwaeri compound, before other Kenyans take over
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What we need Kiambunto do is when things get heated up,its there solely responsibility to march and forcefully eject the drunkard and ransack his homestead there,we are counting on them for this I bet even Ruto hinted to them that they can help instead of kalenjin warriors starting to riot
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I dont have any problem with Kiambu per see. I just have a problem with Nowayah thinking we should treat Kiambu special. I think it would have been a terrible idea to pick from Kiambu...for simple reason that Ufool is from Kiambu...Jomo was from Kiambu...so that would make the exclusionary feeling amongst many in kenya very acute.
Hehehehe pundit you clearly hate Kiambu Kikuyu, what has that to do with Merus? Ruto didn't pick Kindiki so what coukd we have done? We look at bigger picture,Kiambus people are very proud and snobbish,this is a trait that you can't remove from them,But if we don't have a problem with them why do you??? pundit please don't bring your personal feelings be objective,am thinking maybe you had a kiambu girlfriend and she dealt you a blow,we call Kiambu women swinging door coz they hit you when you least expect :D
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You're an idiot who doesnt understand political optics of picking 1) a Kikuyu 2) from Kiambu - to replace Ufool. Ruto struggled because he had to pick Rigathi. That is why it's still went to the wire. Now imagine if he had picked from Kiambu - Kiambu would have gone hard - but rest of GEMA soft - while Non-GEMA would have been even more alarmed at what they see as Kikuyu-Kalenjin (now make it kiambu) volleyball.
Before you spin more theories - dont be insular. Kenya is big. Raila got 49% despite being deeply flawed character.
Kenya is deeply divided. Ruto has to work very hard to fix this. It cannot fix it by feeding into your low self esteem. It can only heal the country by going for 49% who did not vote for him.
And he can only do that by assuring them that he will govern fairly...the Luos, the Kambas, the Coast and Luhyas deserve equal development just like Kiambu.
So stop this nonsense that Kiambu is somehow special because it has 1m voters.
He thinks I come from Kiambu and you already told him kitambo Im from Muranga.
Ruto has told him even in Uasin Ngishu he only got a mere 200K . Home County.
Uhuru knows the truth but since 2017 showed you can play monkey games through SCORK. He captured the SCORK when he got Ouko and Koome inside together with the rest of of Wakoras he thinks he cany deny Ruto his victory.
I think their plan is to steal it at SCORK. A rerun will be kichapo ya Mbwa. After knowing Mt Kenya cant be swayed by anyone they will stear clear. North Eastern also will jump ship.
Luhyas have benefited more than Rift Valley and Mt Kenya in Kenya Kwanza so expect change of mind there.
He wants SCORK to do a shoddy recount and announce Raila as President. He tried to rig Ruto through hia last minute appointments . It failed he is dead serious on his mission to stop Ruto . Expect fireworks at SCORK.
Pundit as usual will come cursing you. I bet he has a bone to grind with Kiambu kabete kikuyu,he greatly dislikes them.
That said what is gatheca end game? And what are you planning to stop him,time.is coming fast you overrun his ichwaeri compound, before other Kenyans take over
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Kiambu is not special but you have to blame the political leaders Ruto included for promoting it and giving it a larger than life form and this attention is what feeds the Kiambu native ro be proud and have a sense of entitlement.
Since Kiambu is cosmopolitan its hard to ascertain the percentage of Kikuyus there who voted for Ruto or raila but bottom line if politicans continue giving it time it will have fuel to burn for example,how could Kiambu of all counties in Kenya be allowed by Mzito to run Kabogo,Kuria,Wamatangi etc all in Kenya kwanza???? Thats why I say Ruto is to blame too
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How did you want Ruto to block Kuria and rest from running and wasting their money. Kiambu Kikuyu and Nyeri Kiambu - no difference - with Muranga Kikuyu - this not 1970s or 90s - therefore I dont understand the nonsense honestly from Nowayaha. There are bigger fish to fry than get into small difference btw Muranga or Kiambu or Nyeri or even Meru.
Kiambu is not special but you have to blame the political leaders Ruto included for promoting it and giving it a larger than life form and this attention is what feeds the Kiambu native ro be proud and have a sense of entitlement.
Since Kiambu is cosmopolitan its hard to ascertain the percentage of Kikuyus there who voted for Ruto or raila but bottom line if politicans continue giving it time it will have fuel to burn for example,how could Kiambu of all counties in Kenya be allowed by Mzito to run Kabogo,Kuria,Wamatangi etc all in Kenya kwanza???? Thats why I say Ruto is to blame too