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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: High Roller on August 13, 2022, 06:50:33 AM
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Wetangula – Wetangula flipped Bungoma in favor of DP Ruto. Based on 2017 election results, Raila won Bungoma by 160,000 votes but in this election, he is losing by 110,000 votes. The county saw a 270,000-vote swing from Raila to Ruto. If Ruto wins he should thank Wetangula for helping him send Odinga to Bondo.
Mudavadi – Not only did he fail to deliver Vihiga, but he also failed to help win 70 percent of the votes in western as agreed in the deed of agreement signed by Kenya’s Kwanza principals. He was unable to attain the quota based upon which Ruto would assign him slots in government. Vihiga total votes for Ruto stands at an abysmal 38 percent.
Karua - The “Karua wave” that Azimio and Odinga were banking on in the lead-up to the August 9 election did not materialize. Karua failed to sway the overwhelming majority of Central voters even in her neck of the woods of Kirinyaga. She WAS AN ABJECT DISASTER for Azimio. To imagine the amount of soul searching and explaining Azimio and Odinga will have to do after the final tally is absolutely dizzying.
Gachagua - He is a good mobilizer but has a lot of skeletons. Was he the best GEMA could offer? Only time will tell. Ruto would have been better off with Kithure Kindiki, JB Muturi or Wetangula.
Kalonzo - His party not only almost swept his Ukambani backyard but also won key seats in parts of the country including Taita Taveta, Nairobi, Garissa, Kisii and Kajiado counties. Under the Azimio power arrangement, Kalonzo is lined up to serve as the Chief Minister if Raila wins the presidency.
Uhuru – If Raila wins this election he should thank Uhuru and Kalonzo for sending Ruto to Sugoi. The biggest blow to Ruto’s team came from voters in North Eastern. Uhuru support for Raila massively helped flip the former province in favor of Azimio. In the last two elections Uhuruto swept Mandera, Marsabit (Eastern), Wajir and Garissa. Based on 2017 election results, Uhuruto won Mandera by almost 100,000 votes, but Ruto and KK are losing by 80,000 votes to Azimio. In Marsabit Uhuruto won by 76,000 votes. KK and Ruto are leading by a whisker, a mere 3,000 votes. Uhuruto won Wajir, but this time around Azimio is crushing it and Ruto and KK are losing by 30,000 votes. Garissa was statistically equal in the last election. Ruto and KK are losing by 55,000 votes.
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You lost me on Gachagua...the man delivered.The can only be one winner..the rest are details..if Raila loses by 200k as it's looking certain then they have all lost in Azimio.Senate is gone.The only battle still undecided is parliament . Azimio hope now is win parliament speaker otherwise it going to be nill..
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The consensus among us Baba voters is fast building: If Baba is declared tomorrow, we are voting for man Stevo in 2027, no ifs no buts. Sad for Karua but I doubt Azimio people will vote for her or anyone who might replace her. Watermelon he may be but his people delivered and we will rudisha mkono! Baba has no choice but to go with us on this. Tunaendelea kuamua hivyo more and more.
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The consensus among us Baba voters is fast building: If Baba is declared tomorrow, we are voting for man Stevo in 2027, no ifs no buts. Sad for Karua but I doubt Azimio people will vote for her or anyone who might replace her. Watermelon he may be but his people delivered and we will rudisha mkono! Baba has no choice but to go with us on this. Tunaendelea kuamua hivyo more and more.
That is not true. If Raila win, he will kick kalonzo out and pick a better GEMA person in 2027 because he will be on the ballot. Raila will pull all stops to get 10 years of Presidency.
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That is not true. If Raila win, he will kick kalonzo out and pick a better GEMA person in 2027 because he will be on the ballot. Raila will pull all stops to get 10 years of Presidency.
That's your prediction, and yours are always slanted toward assuming the worst about Baba as a human being. Mine is that Baba is an old man who already has an unsurpassable legacy and is only looking to tick this last box of PORK. He will spend Term One recreating the Constitution to his vision as his one unchanging, constant ambition (besides being PORK, of course) and attempt to reign in debt and corruption to please the public and then go after one term to add one more tick to his legacy. Once he's PORK and has changed the Constitution, his ambitions are not that many. Man Stevo 2027, tumeamua!
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That is not true. If Raila win, he will kick kalonzo out and pick a better GEMA person in 2027 because he will be on the ballot. Raila will pull all stops to get 10 years of Presidency.
That's your prediction, and yours are always slanted toward assuming the worst about Baba as a human being. Mine is that Baba is an old man who already has an unsurpassable legacy and is only looking to tick this last box of PORK. He will spend Term One recreating the Constitution to his vision as his one unchanging, constant ambition (besides being PORK, of course) and attempt to reign in debt and corruption to please the public and then go after one term to add one more tick to his legacy. Once he's PORK and has changed the Constitution, his ambitions are not that many. Man Stevo 2027, tumeamua!
Man stivo will fail on day one. RVGEMA are planning major elders negations sometime next year to rotate the presidency for 100 years with guaranteed turnout of 90% as part of the deal on either side. Pay attention in mid 2023-2024!
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RVHH, be humble and do postmortem first before starting a new round of boasting about outcomes of elections that are a long ways away. :D
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RVHH, be humble and do postmortem first before starting a new round of boasting about outcomes of elections that are a long ways away. :D
I listen to what senior folks say and report here. You should count yourself lucky that you have intelligence from high sources. If you think 1963 to 2022 is long, 2022 to 2090 is even longer. Kimani, or Ndindi is almost likely your next President in 2032!
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Yes Rvgema machinery is hard to beat.. Raila has won almost everywhere yet will lose
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RVHH, be humble and do postmortem first before starting a new round of boasting about outcomes of elections that are a long ways away. :D
I listen to what senior folks say and report here. You should count yourself lucky that you have intelligence from high sources. If you think 1963 to 2022 is long, 2022 to 2090 is even longer. Kimani, or Ndindi is almost likely your next President in 2032!
Count myself lucky to read the endless fairytales y'all been feeding us here nonstop for several days? Just stop it, already. :D If you don't want to do postmortem and are instead attributing your claims to 'senior sources' then wait for these sources to do postmortem then, before jumping to the next round of boasts about elections years removed from now.
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RVHH, be humble and do postmortem first before starting a new round of boasting about outcomes of elections that are a long ways away. :D
I listen to what senior folks say and report here. You should count yourself lucky that you have intelligence from high sources. If you think 1963 to 2022 is long, 2022 to 2090 is even longer. Kimani, or Ndindi is almost likely your next President in 2032!
Count myself lucky to read the endless fairytales y'all been feeding us here nonstop for several days? Just stop it, already. :D If you don't want to do postmortem and are instead attributing your claims to 'senior sources' then wait for these sources to do postmortem then, before jumping to the next round of boasts about elections years removed from now.
Fair enough, I remember telling another lady 20 years ago that in 20 years, we would be having either a kyuk or a Kalenjin President. Her horrible deep voice uttered, "Kwenda huko na mambo yako- after Kibaki kikuyus will have to wait for ages. Nyinyi after Moi mtangoja miaka mingi zaidi" I hope I won't be telling another lady in 2032 what I just told you. Put Kimani Ichung'wah and Ndindi Nyoro on your head. Kalonzo is DOA!
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Why do they call women emo when my experiences online is it takes very little for men to start being that way? :D Add all the exclamations you want: Your predictions count for zilch because you haven't proved your competence as @ now. Accept and do postmortem then we'll take them more seriously next time.
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Yes Rvgema machinery is hard to beat.. Raila has won almost everywhere yet will lose
That's true but Kalonzo has strengths Raila does not, also. If he is going against RVGEMA combi and picks a Western Running mate with, for example, a Coastarian no. 3 (chief/prime minister), he can achieve block-voting almost everywhere outside RVGEMA. There'll be no 50-50 or "top-ups" almost everywhere from Gusii to the Coast, except maybe the North.
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Karua delivered. She consolidated those 15% in Mt Kenya. Being a tight race this is what baba is hanging on. Only deluded fools drunk on SK mediocre wines were expecting a Karua wave.
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You lost me on Gachagua...the man delivered.The can only be one winner..the rest are details..if Raila loses by 200k as it's looking certain then they have all lost in Azimio.Senate is gone.The only battle still undecided is parliament . Azimio hope now is win parliament speaker otherwise it going to be nill..
gachagua is the one making ruto struggle in Central. a lot of other apathy I know of is because of gachagua
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You lost me on Gachagua...the man delivered.The can only be one winner..the rest are details..if Raila loses by 200k as it's looking certain then they have all lost in Azimio.Senate is gone.The only battle still undecided is parliament . Azimio hope now is win parliament speaker otherwise it going to be nill..
gachagua is the one making ruto struggle in Central. a lot of other apathy I know of is because of gachagua
Ruto had full backing from Mt Kenya in his bid and he would have had the same support if he picked anyone from the region. I think Kindiki would have been a better pick because he could have excited the Meru and Embu voters to unprecedented record numbers. They have over 1.5 million votes, are most underrated and always given minority treatment unlike other Mt Kenya regions. Also don’t forget he was in the trenches together with Ruto when he was fighting for his life in ICC. He defended Ruto when he was facing some serious charges.
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Karua delivered. She consolidated those 15% in Mt Kenya. Being a tight race this is what baba is hanging on. Only deluded fools drunk on SK mediocre wines were expecting a Karua wave.
You sound like this guy when everyone else was saying Raila can’t be serious by picking Karua. He was like, "Baba is always right. What Baba sees while sitting at the bottom of Lake Victoria Ruto cannot see while standing on Mount Kilimanjaro. Neither can you guys". Like it or not, politics is a numbers game. How many people can I get to vote for me? Those 15% in Mt Kenya that Raila got came from other tribes. Did you know that more than 30 per cent of the Kiambu population is made up of non-Kikuyus?
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Karua delivered. She consolidated those 15% in Mt Kenya. Being a tight race this is what baba is hanging on. Only deluded fools drunk on SK mediocre wines were expecting a Karua wave.
You sound like this guy when everyone else was saying Raila can’t be serious by picking Karua. He was like, "Baba is always right. What Baba sees while sitting at the bottom of Lake Victoria Ruto cannot see while standing on Mount Kilimanjaro. Neither can you guys". Like it or not, politics is a numbers game. How many people can I get to vote for me? Those 15% in Mt Kenya that Raila got came from other tribes. Did you know that more than 30 per cent of the Kiambu population is made up of non-Kikuyus?
Numbers will be dissected properly soon or after the election is over. My observation is Raila won about 5-7% of GEMA people, which is the number Martha brought to the table. Raila won mostly in Kiambu, Nakuru, and major towns in Mountain, which tells you those are non-gema votes. Martha failed Azimio, but I think Raila is the main problem. Had Raila settled on thickass Sabina Chege, I dont think the needle would have moved much! Raila and Mountain are, simply night and day!
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Eugene Wamalwa delivered Trans Nzoia. Despite being 30% Kalenjin and Kikuyu, Raila beat Ruto. Implies Bukusu there voted 75% Raila.
Uhuru I agree delivered AZIMIO MACHINERY - the cash, organization, zoning, etc. If Raila wins he owes the most to Uhuru the man.
If Ruto wins he owes the most to Gema the group.
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If Raila wins how now.. results are online..what miracle are you waiting for