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Title: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nowayhaha on July 22, 2022, 09:25:17 PM
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 22, 2022, 09:29:16 PM
He is certain to lose to Ruto so I would skip if I was him.He is now old and Ruto is in his prime.It will be disaster for him.Again without Wajackoyah this debate strategically is of no use to Azimio.Waja would have shine and taken off some hustlers from Ruto
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nowayhaha on July 22, 2022, 09:35:31 PM

Even in his prime , Raila is not eloquent nor Brilliant. He cant think of his feet. Used to rely on Adams Oloo written speeches.
In 2013 he was given questions prior to the debate but still came in 4th

He is certain to lose to Ruto so I would skip if I was him.He is now old and Ruto is in his prime.It will be disaster for him.Again without Wajackoyah this debate strategically is of no use to Azimio.Waja would have shine and taken off some hustlers from Ruto
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 22, 2022, 09:37:02 PM

Even in his prime , Raila is not eloquent nor Brilliant. He cant think of his feet. Used to rely on Adams Oloo written speeches.
In 2013 he was given questions prior to the debate but still came in 4th

He is certain to lose to Ruto so I would skip if I was him.He is now old and Ruto is in his prime.It will be disaster for him.Again without Wajackoyah this debate strategically is of no use to Azimio.Waja would have shine and taken off some hustlers from Ruto
Yes he rehearses even his public speeches.. miguna book has it all.Now he can't stand for long leave alone think..best excuse would be to rush abroad for medical checkup .But they are losing the propaganda war because everyone know it's post Gachagua blues
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nefertiti on July 23, 2022, 11:06:50 AM
both camps have been trying to influene the panel to field friendly questions. Wimpy media might actually buckle.

I don't get the "don't attack Uhuru" - they should have demanded during DPORK debate. Ruto won't go there.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nefertiti on July 23, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
Wajackoyah is not a threat to Ruto - i don't buy that too. Anyway it usual noises he will appear with Mwaura in small fish debate.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: gout on July 23, 2022, 12:40:29 PM
They can never recover from DOs TKO of maritha. It took wind out of their sails.
Being a conservative society, it is a reset button after the caricaturing of the DO. Those who were being lied women are better saw it wanabebwa ufala.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Pragmatic on July 23, 2022, 01:36:05 PM
Even you rehearse or rephrase your pitch when you are confronted with some presentation/public speaking. We all do... you want to go and give your best, you owe it to the audience.

If you have a lisp or a stammer doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!! Raila at 77 can handle his thing better than most 77year olds.

You overrate Ruto.... most snake oil salesmen and conmen are firstclass smooth talkers. Anything goes, in any case they have no intention of honouring what they are pitching.... so they will smooth talk and mesmerise with good speeches and lies that make them appear very smart and well informed.


Even in his prime , Raila is not eloquent nor Brilliant. He cant think of his feet. Used to rely on Adams Oloo written speeches.
In 2013 he was given questions prior to the debate but still came in 4th

He is certain to lose to Ruto so I would skip if I was him.He is now old and Ruto is in his prime.It will be disaster for him.Again without Wajackoyah this debate strategically is of no use to Azimio.Waja would have shine and taken off some hustlers from Ruto
Yes he rehearses even his public speeches.. miguna book has it all.Now he can't stand for long leave alone think..best excuse would be to rush abroad for medical checkup .But they are losing the propaganda war because everyone know it's post Gachagua blues
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 23, 2022, 03:25:23 PM
Tuju is smooth talker. Ruto is more than that. He is a Tom Mboya. Ruto is brilliant (Phd science), gifted propagandist, quick thinker and has amazing ability to grasp & remember things.

Say whatever you want says but Ruto delivers. That is why people believe him. He has solid track record of delivering whatever the assingment. He is not just a talker but a DOER. He is very rare politician which is why he has come from grass thatched house to PORK in such a short time...a complete politician in the mould of the greats like Meles Zenawi.

And he has mentored many to deliver. Your own Didmus Baraza is untouchable in Kimili. In coast Ali is untouchable in Nyali. Ndidi Nyoro untouchable in Kiharu. Wa-Ichungwa untouchable in Kabete. Osoro untouchable in Kisii. Duale untouchable in  Garissa. Kawaya untouchable in Machakos. Tangatanga mps - so called - who stuck with Ruto - are untouchable - because voters can see their work - Ruto has mentored them - and made them understand you gotta work for the people - in addition to makelele of politics.

When Uhuru fired Ruto from gov - he simply decide to help MPS and governors deliver on CDF and other projects.

Those leaders who stick with Ruto including in Kalejnin - became untouchable - because they deliver. Do an excellent job given a chance, wacha pombe mingi, work hard and you'll be like Ruto.

Raila simply is no match to Ruto. His strategy if I was him would to chafua hewa by making all sort of corrupt allegations against Ruto. Kucheza rough basically.

Even you rehearse or rephrase your pitch when you are confronted with some presentation/public speaking. We all do... you want to go and give your best, you owe it to the audience.

If you have a lisp or a stammer doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!! Raila at 77 can handle his thing better than most 77year olds.

You overrate Ruto.... most snake oil salesmen and conmen are firstclass smooth talkers. Anything goes, in any case they have no intention of honouring what they are pitching.... so they will smooth talk and mesmerise with good speeches and lies that make them appear very smart and well informed.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Pragmatic on July 23, 2022, 03:37:12 PM
Ruto and Mboya in the same sentence??? You’ve got to be smoking some WaJahKoya stuff!!

You have no idea Mboya’s brilliance, inspite of not having attended any known Uni he engineered the sessional paper no.10, Kenya’s economic blueprint. He was a firstclass trade unionist and top (public) speaker. Ruto inspite of his fake PhD has no known publication to his name... zero!!! He has never fought for anything of public interest, only known for his stealing and plundering.

Again on Baba, even you scribble some jumbled English here. We can see that your typing seems to be slower than your thoughts (thought process) but understand what you are saying and flow with it. We don’t come back and say you don’t know English or are feeding us gibberish!

I suspect in real life you are a stammerer and suffers from immense stage fright and can’t stand before an audience and present. That doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!!

Most stammerers and “lispers” are highly intelligent people, just that they can’t speak out the stuff as quickly as their brain is processing

Tuju is smooth talker. Ruto is more than that. He is a Tom Mboya. Ruto is brilliant (Phd science), gifted propagandist, quick thinker and has amazing ability to grasp & remember things.

Say whatever you want says but Ruto delivers. That is why people believe him. He has solid track record of delivering whatever the assingment. He is not just a talker but a DOER. He is very rare politician which is why he has come from grass thatched house to PORK in such a short time...a complete politician in the mould of the greats like Meles Zenawi.

And he has mentored many to deliver. Your own Didmus Baraza is untouchable. In coast Ali is untouchable in Nyali. Ndidi Nyoro untouchable in Kiharu. Wa-Ichungwa untouchable in Kabete. Osoro untouchable in Kisii. Duale untouchable in  Garissa. Kawaya untouchable in Machakos.

When Uhuru fired Ruto from gov - he simply decide to help MPS and governors deliver on CDF and other projects.

Those leaders who stick with Ruto including in RV - become untouchable - because they deliver. Do an excellent job given a chance, wacha pombe mingi, work hard and you'll be like Ruto.

Raila simply is no match to Ruto. His strategy if I was him would to chafua hewa by making all sort of corrupt allegations against Ruto. Kucheza rough basically.

Even you rehearse or rephrase your pitch when you are confronted with some presentation/public speaking. We all do... you want to go and give your best, you owe it to the audience.

If you have a lisp or a stammer doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!! Raila at 77 can handle his thing better than most 77year olds.

You overrate Ruto.... most snake oil salesmen and conmen are firstclass smooth talkers. Anything goes, in any case they have no intention of honouring what they are pitching.... so they will smooth talk and mesmerise with good speeches and lies that make them appear very smart and well informed.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 23, 2022, 03:59:51 PM
Ruto has gone beyond Tom Mboya. Ruto is now comparable to one of Africa greatest president Meles Zenawi. Mboya problem remain his shaky political foundation in kenya. Unable to wade off Jaramogi in Luo Nyanza - he was hopeless politician. He was a brilliant mind but the Sessional Paper No 10 was mostly written by Mwai Kibaki - who is one of the most intelligent political leader in Kenya.

The real Mwai Kibaki of 60s,70s and 80s was something. From 90s his brain started to detoriariate....but even at 1/4 capacity he would put Raila to tears :)

Raila without his surname is nothing. Not worthy of any discussion. The man has questionable education, cant barely make any coherent speech beyond monkey stunts. Without being an Odinga - and inheriting his father political capital and network - he would just be one of those guys in Kondele shouting tibim.

Please dont ever compare me to Raila or you. I pack a first class brain.

Ruto and Mboya in the same sentence??? You’ve got to be smoking some WaJahKoya stuff!!

You have no idea Mboya’s brilliance, inspite of not having attended any known Uni he engineered the sessional paper no.10, Kenya’s economic blueprint. He was a firstclass trade unionist and top (public) speaker. Ruto inspite of his fake PhD has no known publication to his name... zero!!! He has never fought for anything of public interest, only known for his stealing and plundering.

Again on Baba, even you scribble some jumbled English here. We can see that your typing seems to be slower than your thoughts (thought process) but understand what you are saying and flow with it. We don’t come back and say you don’t know English or are feeding us gibberish!

I suspect in real life you are a stammerer and suffers from immense stage fright and can’t stand before an audience and present. That doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!!

Most stammerers and “lispers” are highly intelligent people, just that they can’t speak out the stuff as quickly as their brain is processing

Tuju is smooth talker. Ruto is more than that. He is a Tom Mboya. Ruto is brilliant (Phd science), gifted propagandist, quick thinker and has amazing ability to grasp & remember things.

Say whatever you want says but Ruto delivers. That is why people believe him. He has solid track record of delivering whatever the assingment. He is not just a talker but a DOER. He is very rare politician which is why he has come from grass thatched house to PORK in such a short time...a complete politician in the mould of the greats like Meles Zenawi.

And he has mentored many to deliver. Your own Didmus Baraza is untouchable. In coast Ali is untouchable in Nyali. Ndidi Nyoro untouchable in Kiharu. Wa-Ichungwa untouchable in Kabete. Osoro untouchable in Kisii. Duale untouchable in  Garissa. Kawaya untouchable in Machakos.

When Uhuru fired Ruto from gov - he simply decide to help MPS and governors deliver on CDF and other projects.

Those leaders who stick with Ruto including in RV - become untouchable - because they deliver. Do an excellent job given a chance, wacha pombe mingi, work hard and you'll be like Ruto.

Raila simply is no match to Ruto. His strategy if I was him would to chafua hewa by making all sort of corrupt allegations against Ruto. Kucheza rough basically.

Even you rehearse or rephrase your pitch when you are confronted with some presentation/public speaking. We all do... you want to go and give your best, you owe it to the audience.

If you have a lisp or a stammer doesn’t mean you don’t know your stuff!! Raila at 77 can handle his thing better than most 77year olds.

You overrate Ruto.... most snake oil salesmen and conmen are firstclass smooth talkers. Anything goes, in any case they have no intention of honouring what they are pitching.... so they will smooth talk and mesmerise with good speeches and lies that make them appear very smart and well informed.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: audacityofhope on July 23, 2022, 05:22:47 PM
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Again on Baba, even you scribble some jumbled English here. We can see that your typing seems to be slower than your thoughts (thought process) but understand what you are saying and flow with it. We don’t come back and say you don’t know English or are feeding us gibberish!
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@pragmatic, you are trying to be nice when you don't have to be!  Of course Pundit  posts gibberish especially when called out after making a nonsensical assertion(s). You want an example? Here is one and a recent one at that.

It is appropriate to highlight his response in green because it is pure Grade A, green-stinking-monkey-crap gibberish. Someone help me makes sense of what it is he posted???
Kalenjin intelligence hakuna. Kalenjin are not people to be planned. They are as smart as the children of the snakes. That is popular kalenjin saying - be as smart as python children - who are born running. Kalenjin will just erupt if need be.
The last time the government wholeheartedly embarrassed this "advice" end of quote, was in 2007. Cops were poured in Kisumu and Kibera (as it was then known), then kaboom! a place in Uasin Gishu called Kiambaa happened - literary went up in smoke. I just hope the government has better intelligence on the ground so this never happens again. O:-)
Gov should concentrate on Kisumo and Kibra because pale ndio kazi ipo when Ruto wins.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nowayhaha on July 24, 2022, 12:07:08 AM
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 11:17:59 AM
Look like he ain't coming but will instead do his own interview in social hall Jericho
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 11:20:28 AM
Very good decision..it better not turn up than get ripped apart ?s=20&t=JrRtot65VAgeAr-8m-EKpg
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Pragmatic on July 24, 2022, 11:39:45 AM
Of course he will attend....

This is just some diversionary (Hail Mary) manoeuvre. Even your guys know that this is just a bluff...

Very good decision..it better not turn up than get ripped apart ?s=20&t=JrRtot65VAgeAr-8m-EKpg
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 11:42:48 AM
Of course he will attend....

This is just some diversionary (Hail Mary) manoeuvre. Even your guys know that this is just s bluff...

Very good decision..it better not turn up than get ripped apart ?s=20&t=JrRtot65VAgeAr-8m-EKpg
Such gimmicks don't look presidential.If he comes he will be taken to cleaners in front of 40 millions of kenya
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nowayhaha on July 24, 2022, 11:46:23 AM

Karma is a Bitch. Remember in 2007 how he used to ridicule Kibai. Oh he canr debate me etc. 15 years later he is the one running away.

Very good decision..it better not turn up than get ripped apart ?s=20&t=JrRtot65VAgeAr-8m-EKpg
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 24, 2022, 12:34:06 PM

Karma is a Bitch. Remember in 2007 how he used to ridicule Kibai. Oh he canr debate me etc. 15 years later he is the one running away.

Very good decision..it better not turn up than get ripped apart ?s=20&t=JrRtot65VAgeAr-8m-EKpg
LoL
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: patel on July 24, 2022, 03:46:05 PM
Slowly wheels are coming off Azimio jallopy. Raila stand no chance against Ruto. On corruption, Ruto was ready to table information on checks Raila was paid for handshake. Thousands of acres he has stolen in Nyanza and coast. Last time I checked Raila was a tenant, cowboy contactor Ephraim owned that house, 2007 kibaki people forced Ephraim to surrender the house to Raila. Raila political conmanship has hit  a dead end. No wonder he cannt believe the people of Bugoma, people he betrayed in 2017 with a stupid handshake have abandoned him...Good riddance to dynasty garbage.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: gout on July 24, 2022, 03:51:55 PM
Hasla needs to attend and flex!
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Pragmatic on July 24, 2022, 05:19:16 PM
And you lie needlessly like your tinpot. He has nothing to table and he won’t dare go there at the risk of opening a Pandora’s box in which he will come out smelling like a skunk. Wacha hizi vitisho ya pesa nane.

For your information the people of Bungoma have no grievance or debt with Raila... if Weta has any grievance, that’s his personal gripe. Raila didn’t abandon us to nowhere because we never had any joint commitment that we will remain forever in opposition for ungrateful Kenyans!!

Watch that whole clip and the back story to how he came to that part of the clip... he was bantering and speaking in jest, stop twisting stories here.



Slowly wheels are coming off Azimio jallopy. Raila stand no chance against Ruto. On corruption, Ruto was ready to table information on checks Raila was paid for handshake. Thousands of acres he has stolen in Nyanza and coast. Last time I checked Raila was a tenant, cowboy contactor Ephraim owned that house, 2007 kibaki people forced Ephraim to surrender the house to Raila. Raila political conmanship has hit  a dead end. No wonder he cannt believe the people of Bugoma, people he betrayed in 2017 with a stupid handshake have abandoned him...Good riddance to dynasty garbage.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 24, 2022, 09:28:03 PM
Baba throws in the towel,I suspect this is part of the wider gatheca plans to plunge country.  I now se this Kura won't be peaceful
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: patel on July 24, 2022, 10:54:43 PM
With half of western gone, ukambani 35% gone, coast almost 50 - 50. Weather beaten Raila has no path to presidency. Only hope is to finish with respectable numbers so he can vie again in 2027...


Baba throws in the towel,I suspect this is part of the wider gatheca plans to plunge country.  I now se this Kura won't be peaceful
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: audacityofhope on July 25, 2022, 06:04:51 AM
...On corruption, Ruto was ready to table information on checks Raila was paid for handshake. ..
Moron, Your Ruto can still table your so called "information". The media panel has confirmed the debate is still on. Ruto has said he will attend. Rigati showed you can still haul all manner of accusations on a person who is neither on ballot or on podium debating. So wtf are you yelling about??
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 06:18:01 AM
With half of western gone, ukambani 35% gone, coast almost 50 - 50. Weather beaten Raila has no path to presidency. Only hope is to finish with respectable numbers so he can vie again in 2027...


Baba throws in the towel,I suspect this is part of the wider gatheca plans to plunge country.  I now se this Kura won't be peaceful
ukambani could be as high as 50 percent...it's looking like a dog beating is loading
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: audacityofhope on July 25, 2022, 06:26:37 AM
Baba throws in the towel,I suspect this is part of the wider gatheca plans to plunge country.  I now se this Kura won't be peaceful
Fair observation but wrong conclusion. Even though you occassionally show flashes of a well read person, you obviously haven't read the "48 laws of Power" specifically Law No.5!
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 06:45:23 AM
Baba throws in the towel,I suspect this is part of the wider gatheca plans to plunge country.  I now se this Kura won't be peaceful
They will fail because they are clueless idiots.. unless they kill or arrest chebukati I think election preparations has reached point of no return...there so much one can do in two weeks
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 07:56:11 AM
He officially withdrawn.Wise decision.It denies Ruto a debate win and protect old Raila from scrutiny.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 25, 2022, 08:07:08 AM
A welder has no choice but to chicken out of Debate with a Ph.D. guy spitting out numbers and facts like a machine. You don't go on for Olympic 100M race when you are disabled! You go for what is called the Special Olympics, which is what he has chosen in Jericho hall!
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 08:24:19 AM
A welder has no choice but to chicken out of Debate with a Ph.D. guy spitting out numbers and facts like a machine. You don't go on for Olympic 100M race when you are disabled! You go for what is called the Special Olympics, which is what he has chosen in Jericho hall!
Yes it would have exposed him badly.He will lose bonga points for no show but his dignity is intact.Ruto would have undressed him Infront of 40 million kenyans. Now his nakedness and emptiness is covered
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 01:09:39 PM
Ruto has zero chill. Eti at least come and tell us what Tiala and Tibim means :). Those are two crazy words nobody knows what it mean.
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: patel on July 25, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
Shut the fuck up! Must be that time of the month....I understand.
End is near....what a sad ending to Raila and Odinga family garbage. 
If Raila cannot stand up to one William Ruto how can he hold his own against Museveni or Kagame? Bure kabisa. Atleast Martha had bigger balls .

...On corruption, Ruto was ready to table information on checks Raila was paid for handshake. ..
Moron, Your Ruto can still table your so called "information". The media panel has confirmed the debate is still on. Ruto has said he will attend. Rigati showed you can still haul all manner of accusations on a person who is neither on ballot or on podium debating. So wtf are you yelling about??
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 25, 2022, 03:49:13 PM
Look like he will appear afterall
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: RV Pundit on July 26, 2022, 04:22:11 PM
yeah he wont attend - he busy in Meru

The NEXT President William Ruto will be breaking down #ThePLAN tonight.
#TheOnlyPLAN
Watu wa media have failed to bring their man to the debate..
Title: Re: Raila Now Says He wont attend Presidential Debate Unless...
Post by: Nowayhaha on July 27, 2022, 01:44:17 PM
 Raila confirmed he is a Coward and not confident enough to lead Kenya.