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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 11, 2014, 07:15:53 PM

Title: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 11, 2014, 07:15:53 PM

Before ISIS there was Ustashi.  A croatian militia that could not find enough Jews and Serbs to behead.  While ISIS are truly vile, they are not unique.  Or even the worst.  Granted they enjoy a better technology to disseminate their atrocities than their peers in periods long gone.
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a Croatian fascist and terrorist organization active, in its original form, between 1929 and 1945. Its members murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews, and Roma during World War II in Yugoslavia.

The ideology of the movement was a blend of fascism and ultraconservatism. The Ustaše supported the creation of a Greater Croatia that would span to the River Drina and to the border of Belgrade. The movement emphasized the need for a racially "pure" Croatia and promoted genocide against Serbs, Jews and Romani people, and persecution of Croatian dissidents.

The Ustaše were also fiercely Catholic. In the Yugoslav political context, they identified Catholicism with Croatian nationalism. The Ustaše declared that the Catholic and Muslim faiths were the religions of the Croatian people. They also saw the Islam of the Bosniaks as a religion which "keeps true the blood of Croats".

The movement functioned as a terrorist organization before World War II but in April 1941, they were appointed to rule a part of Axis-occupied Yugoslavia as the Independent State of Croatia (NDH), which has been described as both an Italian-German quasi-protectorate, and as a puppet state of Nazi Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Ustasa-saw.jpg)
Title: Re: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2014, 07:20:08 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 11, 2014, 07:34:32 PM
Interesting.
Yep.  But for a sheer stroke of luck, anyone could find themselves in these kind of places at the wrong time. 

It looks like throughout history, there have been very few places at any given time, for people to get on with their lives without worrying about some sort of pogrom or another.


In fact we may be living in the safest period.
Title: Re: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: RV Pundit on November 11, 2014, 07:38:23 PM
Except those currently living in Pokot and NEP..and such areas.
Yep.  But for a sheer stroke of luck, anyone could find themselves in these kind of places at the wrong time. 

It looks like throughout history, there have been very few places at any given time, for people to get on with their lives without worrying about some sort of pogrom or another.


In fact we may be living in the safest period.
Title: Re: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 11, 2014, 08:02:59 PM
Except those currently living in Pokot and NEP..and such areas.
Yep.  But for a sheer stroke of luck, anyone could find themselves in these kind of places at the wrong time. 

It looks like throughout history, there have been very few places at any given time, for people to get on with their lives without worrying about some sort of pogrom or another.


In fact we may be living in the safest period.
Yes.  And those guys are not crazy at all.  It's the environment they know.

A swathe that cuts across Central Africa, the Middle East lives like that.  You cannot escape the fact that life can be short, nasty and brutish.  In Nairobi, nobody blinks at the notion that a suspected thief was stoned to death.

I remember during undergrad in Kenya, a suspect was burned and his body was there for a day.  Nobody was charged.  I did not think much of it.  A Negro could be lynched the same way in Chicago in the 20s and life would go on.

Yet, it barely takes a generation for people to have a totally different perspective.
Title: Re: Ustaše, Europe's Own ISIS
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 11, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
Ustashi slaughtered about 80,000 and 100,000 Serbs at one concentration camp. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp)


http://www.jusp-jasenovac.hr/Default.aspx?sid=7619