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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on July 20, 2022, 11:10:23 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/kenya-presidential-hopeful-ruto-promises-publish-contracts-with-china-2022-07-20/
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50b sgr deal.Uhuru played with wrong guy. A full bloodied Nandi man is dangerous
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You are going to rapture a vein man, chill out!! I talk to a person really close to the Kenyatta family, this is not a brag or a name drop, in fact I came to know him by accident when he was studying in my town. I was suspicious of the things he said, Kenyans are capable of anything but he started saying things only someone on the inside would know. He also told us to check who his brother is and what he does, to be honest, I was a little impressed. I told him recently about state capture and the things you are saying here, he told me one thing, the Kenyatta family business is almost untouchable, it’s so entangled internationally that if for example Ruto tries to touch it, one call from some high level people in the west will stop him cold. He might go for some things like brookside, hiyo ni kidogo, Kalenjins regret selling but they will have to fight it in the courts. The milk monopoly needs to end, it’s not good for business or consumers but the government can only regulate and let market forces, the government cannot takeover private businesses. Talk and campaigning is hard, governing is impossible, ask Obama.
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You are going to rapture a vein man, chill out!! I talk to a person really close to the Kenyatta family, this is not a brag or a name drop, in fact I came to know him by accident when he was studying in my town. I was suspicious of the things he said, Kenyans are capable of anything but he started saying things only someone on the inside would know. He also told us to check who his brother is and what he does, to be honest, I was a little impressed. I told him recently about state capture and the things you are saying here, he told me one thing, the Kenyatta family business is almost untouchable, it’s so entangled internationally that if for example Ruto tries to touch it, one call from some high level people in the west will stop him cold. He might go for some things like brookside, hiyo ni kidogo, Kalenjins regret selling but they will have to fight it in the courts. The milk monopoly needs to end, it’s not good for business or consumers but the government can only regulate and let market forces, the government cannot takeover private businesses. Talk and campaigning is hard, governing is impossible, ask Obama.
You know very little about Uhuru Kenyatta. In 2010-2011, Kenyatta himself was almost broke. The family of Kenyatta had spat him out because of mismanagement, laziness, and heavy drinking. In fact, his wife was living in London, having separated for years. It took the intervention of DP and Mama Ngina to almost bribe and convince Margaret to return before the campaigns started because DP was like, "It will be hard to campaign and sell someone without a wife" All these will come out in the fullness of time. I hear Margaret is leaving back to London after the election because, according to Kenyatta's family members, she cannot stand Uhuru's laziness, pombe, and reckless behavior.
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So, what’s your business where she lives? Do you want to sleep with her? How many man in Kenya will lose their wives today? as far as I am concerned, that’s their business. Ruto is rumored to be a wife batterer, if his wife decides to stay and get used as a punching bag, that’s their business too. I personally would not vote for a thief, a drunkard and even worse a wife beater.
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Hang on to the rumors if it comforts you. Ruto is an alpha male leading a wildly successful family, campaign, and marriage; the same cannot be said about Uhuru. Leading a family successfully without divorce, abandonment, and other egregious acts is the first step toward being a worthy country leader. Had the nation interrogated Uhuru's family mess, Kenya would not be on her knees right now. It matters to be sober, a family man, and organized. It has been proven that a man in that state remains calm and resilient when challenges arise.
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This is one of his friends… Invalid Tweet ID?s=21&t=LjgoTubBFIrKlx2BFOIheg
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These are things Kenyans convince themselves without any evidence, I am married to a beautiful woman, have wonderful kids, have been divorced once. I am committed to my family but also believe that marriage is a cultural, government, and religious created bullshit. It’s against nature, majority of humans on earth find it impossible to stay married to one person for the rest of their live. It’s a torturous institution. Look at all the most successful people in the world, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Bezos, all divorced and playing the field. If you want to know how stupid marriage is, Albert Einstein, the most intelligent human being who ever lived was also divorced.
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This is one of his friends… Invalid Tweet ID?s=21&t=LjgoTubBFIrKlx2BFOIheg
You are confusing Ruto's friend, the always-sober family man Irungu Kang'ata with Farmer's party and Uhuru's drinking friend- Irungu Nyakera.
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Eti international connections..Ruto will expose SGR and other contracts that uhuru hides because he stole.In short uhuru messed up with wrong guy.Ruto cannot be intimidated by anybody.Everyone knows uhuru stole lots of money in SGR.. Jimmy wanjigi will be state witness
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You people like believing in romours. Margret has never left Uhurus side nor is Ruto a wife beater. Leave them alone in these political conversations.
In as much as Uhuru has let us down , Ruto nor Rigathi wont touch him. All this is political rhetoric same as Uhurus Manifesto in 2013. Ofcourse Ruto and Rigathi will try to outsteal Uhuru and the impact will be that it will dent Kenyatta families wealth.
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You people like believing in romours. Margret has never left Uhurus side nor is Ruto a wife beater. Leave them alone in these political conversations.
In as much as Uhuru has let us down , Ruto nor Rigathi wont touch him. All this is political rhetoric same as Uhurus Manifesto in 2013. Ofcourse Ruto and Rigathi will try to outsteal Uhuru and the impact will be that it will dent Kenyatta families wealth.
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There is little to steal in a broke economy that is indebted.That is why no major projects will happen for three years.Kenyatta family wealth is one to be shared by everyone with ambition to steal.Brookside will be broken into pieces and Kenyatta forced to sell.NCBA will lose mpesa ecosystem and someone else will get it.Kenyattas companies will lose all state favours.They will lose land.The same for Moi, Ndegwa,Raid,Jan Mohammed,Johos.Ruto is targeting private sector with linkages to public sector.Grain handling monopoly will go.Johos and Mois will lose deals with KPA.Kemyattas will lose deals with KAA.The oil sector will be broken apart and new players allowed to import oil.
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Too bad that if Ruto wins, we are not going to Moi’s dictatorship, Moi took that to his grave. Kibaki gave us a little taste of a good economy and some money in the pocket. Uhuru has given us the best infrastructure in Africa. Ruto or Raila should start delivering on day one otherwise Kenyans hawataki Ujinga of endless going nowhere commissions. It’s time for quantifiable results, the era of massive theft is over, it’s going to be exposed and people haunted out of office. In short, Ruto or Raila are taking over a game when all the test for steroids are in place, cheating is going to be very difficult.
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Too bad that if Ruto wins, we are notToo bad that if Ruto wins, we are not going to Moi’s dictatorship, Moi took that to his grave. Kibaki gave us a little taste of a good economy and some money in the pocket. Uhuru has given us the best infrastructure in Africa. Ruto or Raila should start delivering on day one otherwise Kenyans hawataki Ujinga of endless going nowhere commissions. It’s time for quantifiable results, the era of massive theft is over, it’s going to be exposed and people haunted out of office. In short, Ruto or Raila are taking over a game when all the test for steroids are in place, cheating is going to be very difficult.
going to Moi’s dictatorship, Moi took that to his grave. Kibaki gave us a little taste of a good economy and some money in the pocket. Uhuru has given us the best infrastructure in Africa. Ruto or Raila should start delivering on day one otherwise Kenyans hawataki Ujinga of endless going nowhere commissions. It’s time for quantifiable results, the era of massive theft is over, it’s going to be exposed and people haunted out of office. In short, Ruto or Raila are taking over a game when all the test for steroids are in place, cheating is going to be very difficult.
Ruto intends to deliver on his manifesto starting with dismantling the tentacles of moi and Kenyatta in private and public sector so the economy can thrive.State capture will affect a few rich folks..not you or me.Why are guys overprotective of kenyatta.Nobody in kalenjin cares about Moi wealth..it benefit them..not us.
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Kibaki did not waste time going after individuals, he went for results. If Ruto’s manifesto is Kenyatta and Moi then we are in for another five yrs of misery. If there is any state capture, I want it dismantled like today. I want people to start enjoying their sweat, Kenyans are tired of looking at idiots flashing wealth while the most intelligent people in the country cannot put a meal on the table. I watched 60min on Sunday on Rwanda and how they are managing the gorillas. One of the most impressive and motivational pieces that I have seen. Gorillas have changed lives, improved the community with health, education,employment and all from well managed tourist dollars. You can watch it, am sure it’s now on you tube. Imagine what Kenyans can do with well managed tourism with all the resources that we possess.
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Kibaki did not waste time going after individuals, he went for results. If Ruto’s manifesto is Kenyatta and Moi then we are in for another five yrs of misery. If there is any state capture, I want it dismantled like today. I want people to start enjoying their sweat, Kenyans are tired of looking at idiots flashing wealth while the most intelligent people in the country cannot put a meal on the table. I watched 60min on Sunday on Rwanda and how they are managing the gorillas. One of the most impressive and motivational pieces that I have seen. Gorillas have changed lives, improved the community with health, education,employment and all from well managed tourist dollars. You can watch it, am sure it’s now on you tube. Imagine what Kenyans can do with well managed tourism with all the resources that we possess.
Kibaki underperformed, had to rig election, leading to unprecedented deaths and suffering.2007/8 will remain darkest period in Kenya modern history.Ruto will transform Kenya in ways never seen before.He will dismantle Kenyatta in shortest time possible...by Xmas Mois and Kenyatta will be done.Whatever Ndii and team has put down will be done.Ruto has never had time for excuse..if it mean working midnight and weekend..it will be done.State capture Wil be done in few months.Ruto will appoint cabinet day one of swearing.Day two he will have constitued his gov.
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In as much as I didnt like Kibaki I know the following things
Kibaki performed
Kibaki won 2007 fair and square actually its Railas side which rigged and they will be trying it this time around again.
Post Election Violence was not caused by GEMA or Kibaki it eas caused by Raia and ODM. After 2007 Kibaki ensured he left Kenya more united than ever hence there was no Violence in 2013.
Now for Kenyatta thinking Ruto will touch him is pure madness.
RV pretends he is Ruto or speaks for Ruto . Just ignore him few months ago he was singing a song that Uhuru is playing Raila with Ruto. He could be tight All three guys are playing Kenyans. They are politicians and have known each other foe more than 30 years.
We can support UDA or ODM but we know Kenyan politicians No 1 they are corrupt and always shield each other .So yes Ruto will win but will do nothing against Uhuru only be a competitor in staling from Government.
Kibaki did not waste time going after individuals, he went for results. If Ruto’s manifesto is Kenyatta and Moi then we are in for another five yrs of misery. If there is any state capture, I want it dismantled like today. I want people to start enjoying their sweat, Kenyans are tired of looking at idiots flashing wealth while the most intelligent people in the country cannot put a meal on the table. I watched 60min on Sunday on Rwanda and how they are managing the gorillas. One of the most impressive and motivational pieces that I have seen. Gorillas have changed lives, improved the community with health, education,employment and all from well managed tourist dollars. You can watch it, am sure it’s now on you tube. Imagine what Kenyans can do with well managed tourism with all the resources that we possess.
Kibaki underperformed, had to rig election, leading to unprecedented deaths and suffering.2007/8 will remain darkest period in Kenya modern history.Ruto will transform Kenya in ways never seen before.He will dismantle Kenyatta in shortest time possible...by Xmas Mois and Kenyatta will be done.Whatever Ndii and team has put down will be done.Ruto has never had time for excuse..if it mean working midnight and weekend..it will be done.State capture Wil be done in few months.Ruto will appoint cabinet day one of swearing.Day two he will have constitued his gov.
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In as much as I didnt like Kibaki I know the following things
Kibaki performed
Kibaki won 2007 fair and square actually its Railas side which rigged and they will be trying it this time around again.
Post Election Violence was not caused by GEMA or Kibaki it eas caused by Raia and ODM. After 2007 Kibaki ensured he left Kenya more united than ever hence there was no Violence in 2013.
Now for Kenyatta thinking Ruto will touch him is pure madness.
RV pretends he is Ruto or speaks for Ruto . Just ignore him few months ago he was singing a song that Uhuru is playing Raila with Ruto. He could be tight All three guys are playing Kenyans. They are politicians and have known each other foe more than 30 years.
We can support UDA or ODM but we know Kenyan politicians No 1 they are corrupt and always shield each other .So yes Ruto will win but will do nothing against Uhuru only be a competitor in staling from Government.
Kibaki did not waste time going after individuals, he went for results. If Ruto’s manifesto is Kenyatta and Moi then we are in for another five yrs of misery. If there is any state capture, I want it dismantled like today. I want people to start enjoying their sweat, Kenyans are tired of looking at idiots flashing wealth while the most intelligent people in the country cannot put a meal on the table. I watched 60min on Sunday on Rwanda and how they are managing the gorillas. One of the most impressive and motivational pieces that I have seen. Gorillas have changed lives, improved the community with health, education,employment and all from well managed tourist dollars. You can watch it, am sure it’s now on you tube. Imagine what Kenyans can do with well managed tourism with all the resources that we possess.
Kibaki underperformed, had to rig election, leading to unprecedented deaths and suffering.2007/8 will remain darkest period in Kenya modern history.Ruto will transform Kenya in ways never seen before.He will dismantle Kenyatta in shortest time possible...by Xmas Mois and Kenyatta will be done.Whatever Ndii and team has put down will be done.Ruto has never had time for excuse..if it mean working midnight and weekend..it will be done.State capture Wil be done in few months.Ruto will appoint cabinet day one of swearing.Day two he will have constitued his gov.
Ruto has said in black n white what state capture is.Rigathi repeated.I know it hurts to see your tribal hero n first family suffer..they will.I am a pundit.I am an excellent political pundit.I analyze politics and I help idiots like you.Kenyatta are going to suffer big time.Its no longer a secret...you should ask Rigathi who was laying it down.Ruto has come this far because he is no respector of big families and boys.He started with Rebuen Chesire ..the dude who grew up with Moi in same family and owned 3000 acres in eldoret..was in Moi kitchen cabinet.Ruto beat him up in politics and physical gave him a flying kick that send him sprawling right in corridors of statehouse.Then he went for Biwott...who was untouchable..he kicked him out of statehood kitchen cabinet...and helpless Biwott watched 2002 from periphery as his lackey Saitoti and Kamotho wailed outside.Next he went for Moi family.Next he took on Raila in ODM.Now he has been engaged with mighty Kenyatta and has prevailed.What remain is a flying kick to send Kenyatta picking their golden teeth in the ground.Ruto has absolutely zero respect for old reputation
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Don't ever imagine that Ruto has the slightest respect for Kenyatta.He doesn't.He will finish them because he has personal beef with them and because Ndii has made Ruto acutely aware that Kenyatta are a cancer on the economy of the country who must be eliminated as the first business of gov.Ruto has unmatched bravery and almost dare devil drive..you tell Ruto don't do this because of fear...he will do it.Unless you have a very good reason to dissuade Ruto...he is going hard on dynasties.on day one..Ruto that I know fear nothing.. except God.Maybe someone can quickly beat Ndii reasoning on state capture being main reason why things aren't moving... otherwise Ruto has been convinced to finish all tentacles of dynasty.Ndii has won.Day one Ruto will implement Ndii radical surgery until last day then he will assess maybe in 3rd year if Ndii plan works or not.If it fails..Ndii will be fired and new strategy hatched.If it works Ndii will become incredibly powerful.He will become Ruto brains, Gachagua the muscle and Ruto will ensure stuff get done without excuses.. without fear or favour
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Boring...... Yawwwnnnn :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
You write a lot of bullshit.
Ruto is kingpin of cartels and state capture. He is the personification of what cartel and state capture means. What an irony that he talks of himself in third party reference.
It would be the day when we rid ourselves of this disaster, liar, conman, and charlatan. I wonder what goes on in his head when he lays down, how Kenyans are such fools to listen to and be excited about his double-faced duplicitous lies.
18 more days to go!!
Don't ever imagine that Ruto has the slightest respect for Kenyatta.He doesn't.He will finish them because he has personal beef with them and because Ndii has made Ruto acutely aware that Kenyatta are a cancer on the economy of the country who must be eliminated as the first business of gov.Ruto has unmatched bravery and almost dare devil drive..you tell Ruto don't do this because of fear...he will do it.Unless you have a very good reason to dissuade Ruto...he is going hard on dynasties.on day one..Ruto that I know fear nothing.. except God.Maybe someone can quickly beat Ndii reasoning on state capture being main reason why things aren't moving... otherwise Ruto has been convinced to finish all tentacles of dynasty.Ndii has won.Day one Ruto will implement Ndii radical surgery until last day then he will assess maybe in 3rd year if Ndii plan works or not.If it fails..Ndii will be fired and new strategy hatched.If it works Ndii will become incredibly powerful.He will become Ruto brains, Gachagua the muscle and Ruto will ensure stuff get done without excuses.. without fear or favour
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You still think Raila has a path to victory :) . Now that is very stupid. It's not even close. The gap is almost two million. Refer to MOAS thread. I never get those wrong.
What we should debate is the shape and tenor of Ruto incoming gov.
Boring...... Yawwwnnnn :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
You write a lot of bullshit.
Ruto is kingpin of cartels and state capture. He is the personification of what cartel and state capture means. What an irony that he talks of himself in third party reference.
It would be the day when we rid ourselves of this disaster, liar, conman, and charlatan. I wonder what goes on in his head when he lays down, how Kenyans are such fools to listen to and be excited about his double-faced duplicitous lies.
18 more days to go!!
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Kibaki did not waste time going after individuals, he went for results. If Ruto’s manifesto is Kenyatta and Moi then we are in for another five yrs of misery. If there is any state capture, I want it dismantled like today. I want people to start enjoying their sweat, Kenyans are tired of looking at idiots flashing wealth while the most intelligent people in the country cannot put a meal on the table. I watched 60min on Sunday on Rwanda and how they are managing the gorillas. One of the most impressive and motivational pieces that I have seen. Gorillas have changed lives, improved the community with health, education,employment and all from well managed tourist dollars. You can watch it, am sure it’s now on you tube. Imagine what Kenyans can do with well managed tourism with all the resources that we possess.
Kibaki underperformed, had to rig election, leading to unprecedented deaths and suffering.2007/8 will remain darkest period in Kenya modern history.Ruto will transform Kenya in ways never seen before.He will dismantle Kenyatta in shortest time possible...by Xmas Mois and Kenyatta will be done.Whatever Ndii and team has put down will be done.Ruto has never had time for excuse..if it mean working midnight and weekend..it will be done.State capture Wil be done in few months.Ruto will appoint cabinet day one of swearing.Day two he will have constitued his gov.
Pundit I challenged your above assertion with numbers on a spreadsheet showing clearly by constituency the registered voters, votes cast and valid votes. You put those in front of anyone and a clear picture emerges. I looked at the places where the alleged rigging happened and the trend was not supportive of the claims. Rigging probably occurred but not in the magnitude espoused by most folks. A Raila win was almost impossible because absent the crazy 41 vs 1 mantra Kalonzo took away 800k kamba votes and interesting enough Kibaki had almost 80k votes in ukambani. Kisii almost went entirely to Kibaki, luhyia constituencies with majority Bukusu went for Kibaki, Turkanas 3of the 4 constituencies went for Kibaki and I believe the same happened in North Eastern. So this myth of a Raila win in 2007 is just that a myth. I don't do predictions like you do but give me numbers and I will simplify them in way a 5th grader would understand. I was actually planning on asking you to pm me the data on registration by constituency I start plugging them in as we wait on election day to compare voter turnout and any other relevant data. Common mwananchi can shout but for us we owe our country a greater service by presenting facts much as they may be stubborn.
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I believe in facts. I have come to accept that Jubilee rigged in North Eastern in 2013 and 2017. Charles Hornsby has provided data that shows at least 50 percent of some const data in NEP were FAKE or MASS rigging...because they were not identified by Biometrics. Nationally 98% of all votes were identified by their biometrics....then suddenly Mandera start posting 90 percent turnout with 90 percent votes for Jubilee/URP.
LEARN TO SPEAK AND LIVE BY FACTS. THEY ARE VERY STUBBORN.
Now 2007 - here are official results
Candidate Party Votes %
Mwai Kibaki Party of National Unity 4,584,721 46.42
Raila Odinga Orange Democratic Movement 4,352,993 44.07
The difference btw Raila and Kibaki was 152,000 votes!!!
The real results - Raila won and beat Kibaki by 200-300k votes - but this is Africa - you cannot beat incumbent with such small %.
This is what Ruto told Raila in Kenya Club and he cried. It was obvious with exit of Kambas from ODM-K - it would be nail bitting. ODM alliance had won 2005 with 58% against 42%. You lose Kambas and you're down to 48%. Raila in MOASS I did was to win by 46-48%. Kibaki was to get 43-44 percent. I believe genuine results Raila won by 46-47 beating Kibaki who had 44-45.
Raila won 2007 but in margins that were razor thin - Kibaki rigged him. Rigging started when Kibaki put all commissioners of his side - bar poor KIVIUTIU.
Rigging happen in Molo, Tharaka Nithi, many other const mostly in Mt Kenya and NEP. IT WAS BRAZEN KIFUA TYPE RIGGING NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN KENYA AND IT SPARK WAR.
For example Molo - Kibaki won by 75K instead of 52K announced in the station.
Molo constituency returning officer provides results showing that Kibaki has 50,145 votes at completion of counting but ECK prepares to announce 75,261 votes for him and provides a computer print out of the increased results. ECK Commission staff deny observers the opportunity to verify information on file, saying the result had not been announced.
Observers at the ECK tallying centre at KICC who take a break from the tallying room to freshen up are denied re-entry. Those who come in to relieve their colleagues on night duty are also barred from entering. Police presence is strong and the atmosphere tense.
Pundit I challenged your above assertion with numbers on a spreadsheet showing clearly by constituency the registered voters, votes cast and valid votes. You put those in front of anyone and a clear picture emerges. I looked at the places where the alleged rigging happened and the trend was not supportive of the claims. Rigging probably occurred but not in the magnitude espoused by most folks. A Raila win was almost impossible because absent the crazy 41 vs 1 mantra Kalonzo took away 800k kamba votes and interesting enough Kibaki had almost 80k votes in ukambani. Kisii almost went entirely to Kibaki, luhyia constituencies with majority Bukusu went for Kibaki, Turkanas 3of the 4 constituencies went for Kibaki and I believe the same happened in North Eastern. So this myth of a Raila win in 2007 is just that a myth. I don't do predictions like you do but give me numbers and I will simplify them in way a 5th grader would understand. I was actually planning on asking you to pm me the data on registration by constituency I start plugging them in as we wait on election day to compare voter turnout and any other relevant data. Common mwananchi can shout but for us we owe our country a greater service by presenting facts much as they may be stubborn.