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Title: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2022, 07:36:32 PM
10 rallies as usual!
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Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
I was expecting the lameduck will make some attempt to defend Kiambu & move it to Jakom but so far I might have given him way too much credit.
He is unlikely to get 30 percent to Raila.
20 percent is the maximum they can do.
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
I was expecting the lameduck will make some attempt to defend Kiambu & move it to Jakom but so far I might have given him way too much credit.
He is unlikely to get 30 percent to Raila.
20 percent is the maximum they can do.
Kiambu is like Uasin Gishu with many tribes. On kikuyu vote, he may max out at 25%, but other tribes will push it past 35%. Would not be surprised to see jaCon hit 40% in Kiambu. Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga, and Nyandarua will be a different song. Azimio should be happy with Uhuru because of extra votes he bringing, especially in Kiambu.
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2022, 08:38:58 PM
What is the Kikuyu Chairman Elder saying?. It looks like he is reiterating the agreement made with Kalenjin elders (Myoot) to stick with Ruto until the end of times. Waiting for wife to arrive to interpret for me pronto! . https://www.facebook.com/jackson.muugi/videos/557299976089468/
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
I was expecting the lameduck will make some attempt to defend Kiambu & move it to Jakom but so far I might have given him way too much credit.
He is unlikely to get 30 percent to Raila.
20 percent is the maximum they can do.
Kiambu is like Uasin Gishu with many tribes. On kikuyu vote, he may max out at 25%, but other tribes will push it past 35%. Would not be surprised to see jaCon hit 40% in Kiambu. Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga, and Nyandarua will be a different song. Azimio should be happy with Uhuru because of extra votes he bringing, especially in Kiambu.
nope I used to make that assumption but uhuru scored 90 percent..the non Kikuyu votes is mostly gema..few Luos and others vote in Nairobi
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 16, 2022, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 15, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on July 15, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
I was expecting the lameduck will make some attempt to defend Kiambu & move it to Jakom but so far I might have given him way too much credit.
He is unlikely to get 30 percent to Raila.
20 percent is the maximum they can do.
Kiambu is like Uasin Gishu with many tribes. On kikuyu vote, he may max out at 25%, but other tribes will push it past 35%. Would not be surprised to see jaCon hit 40% in Kiambu. Nyeri, Muranga, Kirinyaga, and Nyandarua will be a different song. Azimio should be happy with Uhuru because of extra votes he bringing, especially in Kiambu.
nope I used to make that assumption but uhuru scored 90 percent..the non Kikuyu votes is mostly gema..few Luos and others vote in Nairobi
Nope,non kikuyu vote is luhya,kisii,luo.GEMA one is included in Kikuyus simply because embus and Merus there intergrate with Kikuyu and you can't tell them apart .
So as hitter says because of those kabilas i believe especially luhyas baba might do very well we have to see.
Intially Kiambu was not that mixed it used to be pure GEMA but Plato and Noway can correct me on this,Merus then and other migrant GEMA came there to work in 60s and 70s and most settled as it used to be the most prosperous region .
But as other GEMA regions became richer and Kiambu poorer as land run out,immigration stopped and other kabilas moved in like kamba,luhyas kisiis luos who are still very many to this date. I believe they started in the late 90s to 2000s, You will find them in all urban settings in Kiambu where they work as farmhands or other employment in the companies there.
One day I believe there will be tribal violence due to this mix up. And thats why there is stereotypes that Kikuyu women sire with Luhyas there due to this mix ups
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2022, 05:39:39 PM
It just have not showed up in the last two election despite I making provision for them...I think I have heard most travel to vote outside mostly Nairobi..they are hired and paid to vote in Nairobi
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 16, 2022, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: RV Pundit on July 16, 2022, 05:39:39 PM
It just have not showed up in the last two election despite I making provision for them...I think I have heard most travel to vote outside mostly Nairobi..they are hired and paid to vote in Nairobi
I think this is the case,if they were to vote in Kiambu figures would be shocking,Kiambu Kikuyus are not giving birth and these kabilas really are,so maybe if they stay vote in next decade it will be Kikuyu 55% vs Kabilas 45%
Then there are the children sired by luhya farmhands i don't know what population they would make but from social media it appears to be high
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2022, 07:51:23 PM
Uhuru won by 93% in both 2013 and 2017 in Kiambu. Most of the kabilas are in outlying areas of Nairobi. I have heard that Luo and Luhya politician pay them to register in Nairobi - and they get paid to go and vote.

So while other areas were doing 98% - Kiambu did 93% - telling you only about 5% of Kiambu were non-gema.

This was 2017
VOTING BY COUNTY
===================================================================

CENTRAL PROVINCE
===================================================================

KIAMBU COUNTY
===================================================================
Registered voters:                         1,181,076
Votes cast:                                  988,980  83.7
Invalid votes:                                 3,828  00.4
Valid votes:                                 985,152  99.6
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Candidate                Party            Votes       %
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Ekuru Aukot              TAK                     761  00.1
Abduba Dida              ARC                     344  00.0
Cyrus Jirongo            UDP                     154  00.0
Japheth Kaluyu                                 1,028  00.1
Uhuru Kenyatta *         JPK                 912,588  92.6
Michael Mwaura                                   320  00.0
Joseph Nyagah                                    767  00.1
Raila Odinga             NSA                  69,150  07.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                                        985,152

Quote from: Njuri Ncheke on July 16, 2022, 05:52:57 PM
I think this is the case,if they were to vote in Kiambu figures would be shocking,Kiambu Kikuyus are not giving birth and these kabilas really are,so maybe if they stay vote in next decade it will be Kikuyu 55% vs Kabilas 45%
Then there are the children sired by luhya farmhands i don't know what population they would make but from social media it appears to be high
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on July 16, 2022, 08:05:08 PM
You have to note should those kabilas in future vote in Kiambu situation will change drastically,but this information is helpful also to note why luhya luos have made such a strong base in Nairobi  always wondered how they got numbers that made GEMA neutralized, generally if there was no this migrant voting Nairobi GEMA would always deliver 45% of votes add Kambas at 15%,this a very good insight on how Nairobi has been controlled.
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 16, 2022, 08:34:53 PM
Exactly.
Quote from: Njuri Ncheke on July 16, 2022, 08:05:08 PM
You have to note should those kabilas in future vote in Kiambu situation will change drastically,but this information is helpful also to note why luhya luos have made such a strong base in Nairobi  always wondered how they got numbers that made GEMA neutralized, generally if there was no this migrant voting Nairobi GEMA would always deliver 45% of votes add Kambas at 15%,this a very good insight on how Nairobi has been controlled.
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 17, 2022, 08:11:45 AM
Team winning kicking ass in cities all the way to remote villages!
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Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 18, 2022, 01:13:11 AM
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Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on July 18, 2022, 01:18:40 AM
Thika town!
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In the mean time, Kenyan mainstream churches threw their weight Behind DP, forcing Raila to be a man of cloth overnight!
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Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Pundit on July 18, 2022, 01:23:18 PM
Ruto outcampaign Raila 2:1
Title: Re: Kiambu Insane again!
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on August 01, 2022, 08:26:22 AM
Ichung'wah and Thang'wa's week long Kiambu block by block neighborhood combing is insane. The duo claims they have one million votes ready for election night. Azimio are so overwhelmed by Kenya Kwanza's 20+ daily mega rallies and 100 mini rallies taking place all over Kenya!
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