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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on June 12, 2022, 09:11:25 PM

Title: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Githunguri on June 12, 2022, 09:11:25 PM
The guy hàs no degree,it will be proved he forged the documents he handed to IEBC...complete fraud.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 12, 2022, 09:19:54 PM
Fakes news.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Githunguri on June 12, 2022, 09:42:12 PM
Uhuru will phone call museveni..museveni will call the chancellor of that university to disown that degree..all is fair in war...sakaja is trying to call Uhuru who is not picking and his hands are tied..even his uncle Madvd can't save him.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 12, 2022, 10:16:50 PM

Sakaja is Uhurus Son. Actually I so belive Sakaja is Uhurus and Railas mole in UDA.

Uhuru will phone call museveni..museveni will call the chancellor of that university to disown that degree..all is fair in war...sakaja is trying to call Uhuru who is not picking and his hands are tied..even his uncle Madvd can't save him.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 12, 2022, 11:11:07 PM
Sakaja grew up in Milimani or well statehouse annex
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 12, 2022, 11:44:26 PM
Anyway all the best for Sakaja;
He has 30 percent chance of making it;
He is good people;
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 13, 2022, 01:04:45 AM
If he doesn't have a legitimate degree, he should be bared like yesterday. They should ysnk him and let Wanjiru, Kabogo or Moses Kuria take on incompetent Igathe!
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Fairandbalanced on June 13, 2022, 02:17:13 AM
Igathe is not incompetent, not a politician but the guy will change Nairobi very quickly. I had my doubts but I listened to him, the guy is brilliant. Sakaja is nothing without Uhuru, the guy is the epitome of conmanship, cronyism and incompetence, a better polished Sonko.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: patel on June 13, 2022, 02:53:31 AM
The guy has no degree...why would he present Uganda degree? I feel sorry for Uganda degree mill, they should disown it. UDA should head to war room and look for ways to contain this fall out. This might cost Ruto presidency. He must keep it close in Nairobi County.
The guy hàs no degree,it will be proved he forged the documents he handed to IEBC...complete fraud.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 13, 2022, 06:11:48 AM
Once someone has a degree; that has been certified by CUH; the rest is details; that you can pursue in court; In not IEBC mandate to investigate if he attended lessons or not. Joho and many other cases should be enough precedent that Sakaja is eligible to run.

The investigation will either be criminal or private prosecution - but for IEBC -  they have checklist - if its a foreign degree - you get it certified by commission of higher education - that the degree and university is recognized by kenya- end of story.

You open a pandora box - and where will you produce Raila attendance shiet in communist school in Germany where he learnt making nail bombs and welding.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Githunguri on June 13, 2022, 06:18:26 AM
Once someone has a degree; that has been certified by CUH; the rest is details; that you can pursue in court; In not IEBC mandate to investigate if he attended lessons or not. Joho and many other cases should be enough precedent that Sakaja is eligible to run.

The investigation will either be criminal or private prosecution - but for IEBC -  they have checklist - if its a foreign degree - you get it certified by commission of higher education - that the degree and university is recognized by kenya- end of story.

You open a pandora box - and where will you produce Raila attendance shiet in communist school in Germany where he learnt making nail bombs and welding.

But Comission  of higher education can disown the certificate and present it's communication with Team university of Uganda to prove sakaja degree is a forgery.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 13, 2022, 06:32:28 AM
Disown something they certified last week. CUH doesnt have the mandate to investigate foreign degrees. Every university has their rules or no rules of awarding degrees. It's upto Uganda CUH to investigate. Kenya will recognise that degree as long as Uganda CUH recognise it. Now you see the long chain required here or youre still clutching at the straws.

This complaint will be easy to dismiss - as it's a non starter.
You need to summon university, Uganda CUH and name it.
That is police work. IEBC kazi yake is simple - you prima facia have degree - go to the ballot - they have few days to organize elections.

It's a hopeless case - Joho case is good example. If a foreign university decide to sell degrees - in cahoots with their accreditation body like Uganda does- there is nothing we can do.

But Comission  of higher education can disown the certificate and present it's communication with Team university of Uganda to prove sakaja degree is a forgery.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 13, 2022, 07:17:21 AM
 Why didn't this issue come in 2017? If you really dig deeper, most Kenyan politicians have no degrees. I suspect Uhuru Muigai and Raila Odinga have not been conferred with a degree anywhere. Suppose Sakaja honestly presented Teams papers, yet he has been telling people in an interview after interview that he graduated from prestigious UON with an actuarial science degree. In that case, he should be denied a leadership role. Leadership's first test is honesty, word, and legitimacy; if you fail those, you are not simply fit!
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Githunguri on June 13, 2022, 07:48:54 AM
Disown something they certified last week. CUH doesnt have the mandate to investigate foreign degrees. Every university has their rules or no rules of awarding degrees. It's upto Uganda CUH to investigate. Kenya will recognise that degree as long as Uganda CUH recognise it. Now you see the long chain required here or youre still clutching at the straws.

This complaint will be easy to dismiss - as it's a non starter.
You need to summon university, Uganda CUH and name it.
That is police work. IEBC kazi yake is simple - you prima facia have degree - go to the ballot - they have few days to organize elections.

It's a hopeless case - Joho case is good example. If a foreign university decide to sell degrees - in cahoots with their accreditation body like Uganda does- there is nothing we can do.

But Comission  of higher education can disown the certificate and present it's communication with Team university of Uganda to prove sakaja degree is a forgery.

Precisely,

The Higher education commission of Uganda Will invalidate in the next 24Hrs.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: patel on June 13, 2022, 07:58:29 AM
For once let us stand for what is right and holy. This guy flew too close to the sun. Part and parcel of covid billionaires. Did he plan this thing to mess UDA in Nairobi County and pave way for Igathe. Kenyatta family want to control Nairobi County by hook or crook.

Once someone has a degree; that has been certified by CUH; the rest is details; that you can pursue in court; In not IEBC mandate to investigate if he attended lessons or not. Joho and many other cases should be enough precedent that Sakaja is eligible to run.

The investigation will either be criminal or private prosecution - but for IEBC -  they have checklist - if its a foreign degree - you get it certified by commission of higher education - that the degree and university is recognized by kenya- end of story.

You open a pandora box - and where will you produce Raila attendance shiet in communist school in Germany where he learnt making nail bombs and welding.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 13, 2022, 08:44:39 AM
Some people are stretching their imaginations too far.
If Sakaja got a graduate Degree , Thats it , If it was achieved in a foreign University and Accredited by Commision of University education then thats it. Final. Remember Jubilee tried to use that against Raila in 2013 and it never passed.
Raila only had to climb down from calling his Specialised degreea Masters to Graduate Degree.
Governors are very powerful positions which Most universities would like to have ties with.
That TEAM univirsity has gotten a very nice publicity.


Disown something they certified last week. CUH doesnt have the mandate to investigate foreign degrees. Every university has their rules or no rules of awarding degrees. It's upto Uganda CUH to investigate. Kenya will recognise that degree as long as Uganda CUH recognise it. Now you see the long chain required here or youre still clutching at the straws.

This complaint will be easy to dismiss - as it's a non starter.
You need to summon university, Uganda CUH and name it.
That is police work. IEBC kazi yake is simple - you prima facia have degree - go to the ballot - they have few days to organize elections.

It's a hopeless case - Joho case is good example. If a foreign university decide to sell degrees - in cahoots with their accreditation body like Uganda does- there is nothing we can do.

But Comission  of higher education can disown the certificate and present it's communication with Team university of Uganda to prove sakaja degree is a forgery.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on June 13, 2022, 02:49:51 PM

Sakaja is Uhurus Son. Actually I so belive Sakaja is Uhurus and Railas mole in UDA.

Uhuru will phone call museveni..museveni will call the chancellor of that university to disown that degree..all is fair in war...sakaja is trying to call Uhuru who is not picking and his hands are tied..even his uncle Madvd can't save him.
100%  Sakaja is a mole.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Kadudu on June 13, 2022, 03:19:56 PM
You are becoming paranoid. You are seeing everywhere a mole. Kenyan politicans cannot be called moles but prositutes.

100%  Sakaja is a mole.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 13, 2022, 04:17:25 PM
Sakaja is Wakhungu. He has links to Wakhungu clan that is married to Aworis
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: sema on June 13, 2022, 04:26:25 PM
Kenya is just a country of liars. Totally corrupt.  Sakaja clearly has been lying for years and now he got caught, but so has everyone else. Joho, Aisha Juma and many others (you can tell none of them have degree's) Kenya is ruled by semi-literate village clowns and it'll never become a first world country or even middle income country with these kinds of people.

Sakaja attended for 4 years, why didn't he just go back and finish? too busy drinking and enjoying life? He should have finished.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 13, 2022, 04:29:48 PM
Sakaja became rich with Vijana na Kibaki - then befriended Uhuru and hit a jackpot as TNA chair- then nominated Mp - then Nairobi Senator - now how do you go back UON halls to do exams or complete course work especially in difficult course like actuarial sciences.
Kenya is just a country of liars. Totally corrupt.  Sakaja clearly has been lying for years and now he got caught, but so has everyone else. Joho, Aisha Juma and many others (you can tell none of them have degree's) Kenya is ruled by semi-literate village clowns and it'll never become a first world country or even middle income country with these kinds of people.

Sakaja attended for 4 years, why didn't he just go back and finish? too busy drinking and enjoying life? He should have finished.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: patel on June 13, 2022, 05:32:17 PM
Gangster paradise my fren. UDA should disown him. Flew too close to the sun while living large on hog. You have to cover your tracks if you are going to go Mano a Mano with the people who turned a blind eye while you were stealing. This guy had 5 yrs to sort this shit out. Bure kabisa. I hope he does not end up costing UDA presidency. Uhuru is determined to run Nairobi County by any means necessary.
Kenya is just a country of liars. Totally corrupt.  Sakaja clearly has been lying for years and now he got caught, but so has everyone else. Joho, Aisha Juma and many others (you can tell none of them have degree's) Kenya is ruled by semi-literate village clowns and it'll never become a first world country or even middle income country with these kinds of people.

Sakaja attended for 4 years, why didn't he just go back and finish? too busy drinking and enjoying life? He should have finished.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 14, 2022, 01:44:32 AM
So we know he has presented a forgery to IEBC.  Everybody knows.   Isn’t that a felony - in the normal universe?
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Fairandbalanced on June 14, 2022, 03:11:06 AM
He should not only be barred but should also be charged. The audacity of presenting fake documents should not be left to stand, a precedent has to be set, even in gangster paradise akili kidogo is required.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Githunguri on June 15, 2022, 11:21:07 AM
CUH Kenya has revoked the degree.I expect IEBC to comply..Uhuru made sakaja.made him MP TNA chairman and Senator.I believed he even gave him many tenders and licenses maybe in mining..What did this man do?He went ahead to auction mudavadi to UDA and joined Anti-uhuru forces..Now is the time to destroy sakaja,endless cases,BANKRUPT him and send him back to the streets..It's time Mudavadi will know,As Uhuru packs his suitcases at statehouse,He will pack all his belongings with him including sakaja.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 15, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
You have 50 days to do what you couldnt in 1500 days.
CUH Kenya has revoked the degree.I expect IEBC to comply..Uhuru made sakaja.made him MP TNA chairman and Senator.I believed he even gave him many tenders and licenses maybe in mining..What did this man do?He went ahead to auction mudavadi to UDA and joined Anti-uhuru forces..Now is the time to destroy sakaja,endless cases,BANKRUPT him and send him back to the streets..It's time Mudavadi will know,As Uhuru packs his suitcases at statehouse,He will pack all his belongings with him including sakaja.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: Pragmatic on June 15, 2022, 04:56:06 PM
Why can't UDA replace Sakaja with MaDVD?? At least that would be a credible candidate to vie for and run a big county like Nairobi instead of the cons.... Sakaja, Sonko type??

Afterall, Ruto wont win and MaDVD could become Nairobi Governor and be ready to challenge for the big seat in 2027 once he demonstrates ability! He can employ his "nephew" Sakaja as an advisor once he is governor. :D :D :D


You have 50 days to do what you couldnt in 1500 days.
CUH Kenya has revoked the degree.I expect IEBC to comply..Uhuru made sakaja.made him MP TNA chairman and Senator.I believed he even gave him many tenders and licenses maybe in mining..What did this man do?He went ahead to auction mudavadi to UDA and joined Anti-uhuru forces..Now is the time to destroy sakaja,endless cases,BANKRUPT him and send him back to the streets..It's time Mudavadi will know,As Uhuru packs his suitcases at statehouse,He will pack all his belongings with him including sakaja.
Title: Re: Sakaja Out,Who will UDA nominate?
Post by: RV Pundit on June 15, 2022, 05:10:32 PM
Sakaja was approved by Nairobi CRO.
That is where we are.
I think you're moving ahead of time.
If he ineligible - then UDA will deal with it then.
Otherwise he has valid IEBC certificate as of today.

Wait for the decision of the IEBC Dispute Resolution Comittee.

Why can't UDA replace Sakaja with MaDVD?? At least that would be a credible candidate to vie for and run a big county like Nairobi instead of the cons.... Sakaja, Sonko type??

Afterall, Ruto wont win and MaDVD could become Nairobi Governor and be ready to challenge for the big seat in 2027 once he demonstrates ability! He can employ his "nephew" Sakaja as an advisor once he is governor. :D :D :D