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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Pajero on June 06, 2022, 11:40:57 AM
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For purposes of clarity and simplicity,data has been classified into 3 broad sections.Section 1 is Azimio strong hold.Section 2 is KK strong hold.Section 3 is the swing region.A strong hold is considered a region where a candidate ganners over 60% of the votes cast while a swing region is where results are even or rather difference between two leading candidates is less than 10%.
1.KK strong holds-Here we have a total of 18 counties (10 all Gema) and (7 pure kalenjin) counties that KK are expected to sweep with of 60% of total votes cast.
2.Azimio strong holds-Here we also have a total of 17 counties that Azimio is expected to sweep with over 60% of total votes cast.(6 Nyanza counties,Busia,Machakos,Kitui,Makueni,Mombasa,Kilifi,Taita taveta,Kakamega and all 4 NE counties.)
4.Swing areas-under this category,we have 14 counties spread across that results are expected to be even or rather the difference to be marginally small.(Narok,Kajiado,Vihiga,Bungoma,Samburu,Transnzoia,Isiolo,Lamu,TanaRiver,Kwale and Turkana).
KK STRONGHOLDS
GEMA COUNTIES
Meru-780,858
Tharaka-234618
Embu-337627
Nyeri-492040
Kirinyaga-378,410
Muranga-628,416
Kiambu-1,293,309
Nyandarua-362,357
Laikipia-265,842
Nakuru-1,050,367
TOTAL 5,558,178
EXPECTED TURNOUT 75%-4,168,633
KK-2,709,611(68%)
AZIMIO-1,333,962 (31%)
KALENJIN COUNTIES
Uasingishu-530,993
Nandi-402,856
Baringo-271,997
Elgeyo-211,352
Bomet-370,399
Kericho-429,288
West pokot-214,574
TOTAL 2,431,459
EXPECTED TURNOUT-78%-1,896,538
KK-1.763,780 (93%)
AZIMIO-132,757 (7%)
AZIMIO STRONGHOLD
NYANZA COUNTIES
Homabay-537,108
Siaya-518,056
Kisumu-616,871
Migori-454,954
Kisii-638,603
Nyamira-316,389
TOTAL 3,081,981
EXPECTED TURNOUT-79%-2,434,764
KK-194,781(12%)
AZIMIO 2,239,982 (88%)
UKAMBANI COUNTIES
Kitui-532,267
Machakos-690,243
Makueni-474,493
TOTAL-1,697,003
EXPECTED TURNOUT-1,323,662 (78%)
KK-198,549(15%)
AZIMIO-1.125,112(85%)
COAST COUNTIES
Mombasa-654,063
Kilifi-582631
Taita taveta-179,234
TOTAL-1,415,928
EXPECTED TURNOUT -920,353 (65%)
KK-276,105 (30%)
AZIMIO-644,248 (70%)
WESTERN COUNTIES
Kakamega-843,139
Busia-406,569
TOTAL 1,247,708
EXPECTED TURNOUT-935,781 (75%)
KK-319,523 (35%)
AZIMIO-616,354 (65%)
NORTHERN COUNTIES
Mandera- 211,098
Garissa-207,435
Wajir-196,466
Marsarbit-164,864
TOTAL-779,863
EXPECTED TURNOUT-483,515 (62%)
KK-183,735 (38%)
AZIMIO-299,799 (62%)
NAIROBI-2,505,199-EXPECTED VOTES (75%)-1,878,899.
KK-751,599 (41%)
AZIMIO 1,127,339 (59%)
SWING COUNTIES
Narok-397,618
Kajiado-463,546
Bungoma-644,233
Vihiga-304,755
Turkana-241,583
Samburu-98,081
Transnzoia-395,741
Kwale-320,782
Lamu-79,157
Tana River-137,605
Isiolo-86,665
TOTAL-3,383,874
EXPECTED TURNOUT-2,301,034 (68%)
KK-1,035,465 (48%)
AZIMIO-1,265,568 (52%)
TOTAL FOR KK-7,433,148 (46%)
TOTAL FOR AZIMIO-8,785,121 (54%)
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Very correct analysis.Raila is between 54%-56%.
It's a replica of 2002 election.
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Yes,but there could be slight changes depending on how gema plays out.
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First let me sticky this - so Azimio guys here can have something to look forward to. I will analyse the figures in short while
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Fanya haraka and be objective please,hapana bebwa na feelings and emotions.
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Nimekusadia hapa - took it to excel - Ruto led. I dont even have to critique the figures. Until you find me formulae where Ruto loses.
Bye Bye
Counties Reg Votes Raila Ruto Turn out Total Cast Raila Ruto
Meru 780,858 31 68 75 585644 181550 398238
Tharaka 234618 31 68 75 175964 54549 119656
Embu 337627 31 68 75 253220 78498 172190
Nyeri 492040 31 68 75 369030 114399 250940
Kirinyaga 378,410 31 68 75 283808 87980 192989
Muranga 628,416 31 68 75 471312 146107 320492
Kiambu 1,293,309 31 68 75 969982 300694 659588
Nyandarua 362,357 31 68 75 271768 84248 184802
Laikipia 265,842 31 68 75 199382 61808 135580
Nakuru 1,050,367 31 68 75 787775 244210 535687
Uasingishu 530,993 7 93 78 414175 28992 385183
Nandi 402,856 7 93 78 314228 21996 292232
Baringo 271,997 7 93 78 212158 14851 197307
Elgeyo 211,352 7 93 78 164855 11540 153315
Bomet 370,399 7 93 78 288911 20224 268687
Kericho 429,288 7 93 78 334845 23439 311406
West pokot 214,574 7 93 78 167368 11716 155652
Homabay 537,108 88 12 79 424315 373397 50918
Siaya 518,056 88 12 79 409264 360152 49112
Kisumu 616,871 88 12 79 487328 428849 58479
Migori 454,954 88 12 79 359414 316284 43130
Kisii 638,603 88 12 79 504496 443956 60540
Nyamira 316,389 88 12 79 249947 219953 29994
Kitui 532,267 85 15 78 415168 352893 62275
Machakos 690,243 85 15 78 538390 457632 80759
Makueni 474,493 85 15 78 370105 314589 55516
Mombasa 654,063 70 30 65 425141 297599 127542
Kilifi 582631 70 30 65 378710 265097 113613
Taita taveta 179,234 70 30 65 116502 81551 34951
Kakamega 843,139 65 35 75 632354 411030 221324
Busia 406,569 65 35 75 304927 198203 106724
Mandera 211,098 68 32 62 130881 88999 41882
Garissa 207,435 68 32 62 128610 87455 41155
Wajir 196,466 68 32 62 121809 82830 38979
Marsarbit 164,864 68 32 62 102216 69507 32709
NAIROBI 2,505,199 41 59 75 1878899 770349 1108550
Narok 397,618 48 52 68 270380 129782 140598
Kajiado 463,546 48 52 68 315211 151301 163910
Bungoma 644,233 48 52 68 438078 210277 227801
Vihiga 304,755 48 52 68 207233 99472 107761
Turkana 241,583 48 52 68 164276 78852 85424
Samburu 98,081 48 52 68 66695 32014 34681
Transnzoia 395,741 48 52 68 269104 129170 139934
Kwale 320,782 48 52 68 218132 104703 113429
Lamu 79,157 48 52 68 53827 25837 27990
Tana River 137,605 48 52 68 93571 44914 48657
Isiolo 86,665 48 52 68 58932 28287 30645
16398340 8141735 8212926
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I have edited the title to reflect the mathematical correctness :)
Now once you figure out another formulae let me know.
I am not going to bother with obvious problems in many areas and in turnout.
I will release my final final MOASS in few weeks.
Still have few problematic areas where I need to know MPs and Governors - plus get more clarity on few areas.
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Sorry I transposed the last one - now Raila led by 50 and Ruto 49.5% :) :). Congratultions!!!!!!!!!!!! You really tried - managing to beat Ruto by 100K votes sio Mchezo - you literally gave Raila led everywhere except in kalenjin 7 and 10 Mt kenya :D :D
Narok 397,618 52 48 68 270380 140598 129782
Kajiado 463,546 52 48 68 315211 163910 151301
Bungoma 644,233 52 48 68 438078 227801 210277
Vihiga 304,755 52 48 68 207233 107761 99472
Turkana 241,583 52 48 68 164276 85424 78852
Samburu 98,081 52 48 68 66695 34681 32014
Transnzoia 395,741 52 48 68 269104 139934 129170
Kwale 320,782 52 48 68 218132 113429 104703
Lamu 79,157 52 48 68 53827 27990 25837
Tana River 137,605 52 48 68 93571 48657 44914
Isiolo 86,665 52 48 68 58932 30645 28287
16398340 8227956 8126705 0.501755422 0.495580955
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Pajero-For Raila to beat Ruto by 0.5 percent - 100K votes- he must lead in every country - with low turnout in Mt Kenya and Kalenjin
Pajero reckon Raila will lead in 30 counties.
Homabay 537,108 88 12 79 424315 373397 50918
Siaya 518,056 88 12 79 409264 360152 49112
Kisumu 616,871 88 12 79 487328 428849 58479
Migori 454,954 88 12 79 359414 316284 43130
Kisii 638,603 88 12 79 504496 443956 60540
Nyamira 316,389 88 12 79 249947 219953 29994
Kitui 532,267 85 15 78 415168 352893 62275
Machakos 690,243 85 15 78 538390 457632 80759
Makueni 474,493 85 15 78 370105 314589 55516
Mombasa 654,063 70 30 65 425141 297599 127542
Kilifi 582631 70 30 65 378710 265097 113613
Taita taveta 179,234 70 30 65 116502 81551 34951
Kakamega 843,139 65 35 75 632354 411030 221324
Busia 406,569 65 35 75 304927 198203 106724
Mandera 211,098 68 32 62 130881 88999 41882
Garissa 207,435 68 32 62 128610 87455 41155
Wajir 196,466 68 32 62 121809 82830 38979
Marsarbit 164,864 68 32 62 102216 69507 32709
NAIROBI 2,505,199 41 59 75 1878899 770349 1108550
Narok 397,618 52 48 68 270380 140598 129782
Kajiado 463,546 52 48 68 315211 163910 151301
Bungoma 644,233 52 48 68 438078 227801 210277
Vihiga 304,755 52 48 68 207233 107761 99472
Turkana 241,583 52 48 68 164276 85424 78852
Samburu 98,081 52 48 68 66695 34681 32014
Transnzoia 395,741 52 48 68 269104 139934 129170
Kwale 320,782 52 48 68 218132 113429 104703
Lamu 79,157 52 48 68 53827 27990 25837
Tana River 137,605 52 48 68 93571 48657 44914
Isiolo 86,665 52 48 68 58932 30645 28287
16398340 8227956 8126705 0.501755422 0.495580955
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What have you done with my data,I don't understand.why are you corrupting it,how come your final total differs with mine.i expected you to counter me the way I have put them,region by region.from there we can start engaging.
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Yes,Raila will lead in 27 counties,it's no brainer.
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Off to Nyayo for manifesto launch,digest and get back.
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PUNDITO DONT EDIT MY TITLE,WHO GAVE YOU POWERS TO DO THAT.THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.MEMBERS IS THIS CORRECT.PUNDITO I GIVE YOU 2 HOURS TO RESTORE MY TITLE OR ELSE I MOVE OUT OF THIS FORUM.
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OPINIONS MUST BE RESPECTED.
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I respected your opinion. The best you should do is thank me for correcting mathematical errors; yaani unalia instead of saying asante; then we continue from there.
THIS simple basic maths. I used your own figures.
OPINIONS MUST BE RESPECTED.
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Redo the maths :) :) wacha hasira :)
What have you done with my data,I don't understand.why are you corrupting it,how come your final total differs with mine.i expected you to counter me the way I have put them,region by region.from there we can start engaging.
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Those are your numbers; You cannot run away from them :)
PUNDITO DONT EDIT MY TITLE,WHO GAVE YOU POWERS TO DO THAT.THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.MEMBERS IS THIS CORRECT.PUNDITO I GIVE YOU 2 HOURS TO RESTORE MY TITLE OR ELSE I MOVE OUT OF THIS FORUM.
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Which mathematical error pundito,are you mad,my summation is correct,what do you take me for.
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This excel - the first thing I did was to just put your figures through sanity test - and the figures were mathematical wrong.
Attached is your excel - download and continue from there - if you want this conversation to continue - or just admit that Raila CANNOT beat Ruto.
There is really no need for all these - facts are very stubborn things. Your own skewed data has buried you.
Which mathematical error pundito,are you mad,my summation is correct,what do you take me for.
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Pundito,take a pen and a paper and do your summation again,your excel work sheet iko shida.
KK
2709611
1763770
194781
198549
276105
319523
183735
751599
1035465
TOTAL 7433148
AZIMIO
1333962
132757
2239982
1125112
644248
616248
299799
1127339
1265568
TOTAL 8785121
WHO IS MAD HERE
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Check excel. My primary school maths record remain unbeaten almost 30yrs later. Let not argue over basic arithmatic. I would have loved to hear your argument on why you assign figures xyz to Raila or Ruto - but clearly there is no debate here - Ruto will win this thing. Your own skewed data clearly shows that.
Pundito,take a pen and a paper and do your summation again,your excel work sheet iko shida.
KK
2709611
1763770
194781
198549
276105
319523
183735
751599
1035465
TOTAL 7433148
AZIMIO
1333962
132757
2239982
1125112
644248
616248
299799
1127339
1265568
TOTAL 8785121
WHO IS MAD HERE
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I have corrected the transpose error on last columns - please for next two months - use this excel.
Once you're happy with summation - and you still want to argue - go ahead.
But remember I have done this maths for donkey years.
Raila need 50 percent of GEMA to go 50-50 with Ruto.
It OVER - unless kuna rigging.
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RESTORE MY TITLE AND OFFER ME AN APOLOGY
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LOL - Poor Pajero. The maths is very very clear.
RESTORE MY TITLE AND OFFER ME AN APOLOGY
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Angalia Tena tell me - check where you may need to revise
ID Counties Reg Votes Raila Ruto Turnout TotalCast Raila2022 Ruto2022
Mt Kenya
1 Meru 780858 31 68 75 585644 181550 398238
2 Tharaka 234618 31 68 75 175964 54549 119656
3 Embu 337627 31 68 75 253220 78498 172190
4 Nyeri 492040 31 68 75 369030 114399 250940
5 Kirinyaga 378410 31 68 75 283808 87980 192989
6 Muranga 628416 31 68 75 471312 146107 320492
7 Kiambu 1293309 31 68 75 969982 300694 659588
8 Nyandarua 362357 31 68 75 271768 84248 184802
9 Laikipia 265842 31 68 75 199382 61808 135580
10 Nakuru 1050367 31 68 75 787775 244210 535687
Kalenjin cluster
11 Uasingishu 530993 7 93 78 414175 28992 385183
12 Nandi 402856 7 93 78 314228 21996 292232
13 Baringo 271997 7 93 78 212158 14851 197307
14 Elgeyo 211352 7 93 78 164855 11540 153315
15 Bomet 370399 7 93 78 288911 20224 268687
16 Kericho 429288 7 93 78 334845 23439 311406
17 West pokot 214574 7 93 78 167368 11716 155652
Nyanza Cluster
18 Homabay 537108 88 12 79 424315 373397 50918
19 Siaya 518056 88 12 79 409264 360152 49112
20 Kisumu 616871 88 12 79 487328 428849 58479
21 Migori 454954 88 12 79 359414 316284 43130
22 Kisii 638603 88 12 79 504496 443956 60540
23 Nyamira 316389 88 12 79 249947 219953 29994
Ukambani Cluster
24 Kitui 532267 85 15 78 415168 352893 62275
25 Machakos 690243 85 15 78 538390 457632 80759
26 Makueni 474493 85 15 78 370105 314589 55516
27 Mombasa 654063 70 30 65 425141 297599 127542
Coastal Cluster
28 Kilifi 582631 70 30 65 378710 265097 113613
29 Taita taveta 179234 70 30 65 116502 81551 34951
30 Kakamega 843139 65 35 75 632354 411030 221324
31 Busia 406569 65 35 75 304927 198203 106724
Norther Kenya cluster
32 Mandera 211098 68 32 62 130881 88999 41882
33 Garissa 207435 68 32 62 128610 87455 41155
34 Wajir 196466 68 32 62 121809 82830 38979
35 Marsarbit 164864 68 32 62 102216 69507 32709
Nairobi
36 NAIROBI 2505199 41 59 75 1878899 770349 1108550
Battle-ground
37 Narok 397618 52 48 68 270380 129782 140598
38 Kajiado 463546 52 48 68 315211 151301 163910
39 Bungoma 644233 52 48 68 438078 210277 227801
40 Vihiga 304755 52 48 68 207233 99472 107761
41 Turkana 241583 52 48 68 164276 78852 85424
42 Samburu 98081 52 48 68 66695 32014 34681
43 Transnzoia 395741 52 48 68 269104 129170 139934
44 Kwale 320782 52 48 68 218132 104703 113429
45 Lamu 79157 52 48 68 53827 25837 27990
46 Tana River 137605 52 48 68 93571 44914 48657
47 Isiolo 86665 52 48 68 58932 28287 30645
22154751 16398340 8141735 8212926
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Can someone help us here please,this guy is nuts.Please someone to do the maths.
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Pundito,just take the totals by regions the way I have put them and list in an excel first.They are 9 regions beginning with Gema and last is swing region.Then tell me TOTAL.
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Okay there is an error in Nairobi - I switched the figures.
Pundito,just take the totals by regions the way I have put them and list in an excel first.They are 9 regions beginning with Gema and last is swing region.Then tell me TOTAL.
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Now edited - Your New Maths are
Total ->16398340
Raila -> 8566157
Ruto-> 7788504
Percentage
Raila 52.2379521
Ruto 474956855
National Turnout 78%
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Hapana,redo your summation and get it right,looks like you never stepped in a maths class.Get it right,restore my title and tender an apology.one hour remaining.
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Where else is wrong. I thought you wanted a serious debate on your figures. Or they are light weight. Stop being emotional. Your figures are full of crappy assumption. Let get maths right before we proceed.
Hapana,redo your summation and get it right,looks like you never stepped in a maths class.Get it right,restore my title and tender an apology.one hour remaining.
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Before you hurl insults on me,take a piece of paper and add the following
2709611
1763780
194781
198549
276105
319523
183735
751599
1035455
Then give me the answer
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Get an excel - how old are you -80yrs? - and put your figures there. I have done it for you. Eti pen and paper :) - and calculator.
Once you've excel - you can use to play with many scenarios - for example your turnout are just wild - please use 2013/2017 figures for more realistic numbers - lower mt kenya - increase kalenjin to match Luo.
Then we see if we still need to debate - or this debate is over.
Before you hurl insults on me,take a piece of paper and add the following
2709611
1763780
194781
198549
276105
319523
183735
751599
1035455
Then give me the answer
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Pundito,take a pen and a paper and do your summation again,your excel work sheet iko shida.
KK
2709611
1763770
194781
198549
276105
319523
183735
751599
1035465
TOTAL 7433148
AZIMIO
1333962
132757
2239982
1125112
644248
616248
299799
1127339
1265568
TOTAL 8785121
WHO IS MAD HERE
Reminds me of what you did in 2013 and 2017 in the other place. You were 100% sure then but it seem you are 90% sure this time. What you need to ingrain in your head is that the name Raila NEVER gets announced as a presidential winner EVER. We are talking 1990s to present! Chebukati will announce William Ruto and Rigathi Gachagua to continue that tradition. Lets meet again in 2027 for more of your Raila gibberish prediction!
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I respected your opinion. The best you should do is thank me for correcting mathematical errors; yaani unalia instead of saying asante; then we continue from there.
THIS simple basic maths. I used your own figures.
OPINIONS MUST BE RESPECTED.
You shouldn't be able to just change what someone wrote even if you disagree. Imagine what kind of place this becomes if anybody with edit power just overwrites what they disagree with. That's the quickest way to kill a forum.
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You dont disagree with Maths. This is not an opinion. I disagree with his projections - but the only change here is on MATHS. And I have corrected my mistakes. He just need to re-look at maths again - and he will discover that maths here are corret.
I put it sticky because I thought he was interested in a serious debate. But if he wants propaganda - I can unsticky it - and you can go - and bring it up - and promote something that is mathematical wrong.
You shouldn't be able to just change what someone wrote even if you disagree. Imagine what kind of place this becomes if anybody with edit power just overwrites what they disagree with. That's the quickest way to kill a forum.
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Okay there goes the misleading title.
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I respected your opinion. The best you should do is thank me for correcting mathematical errors; yaani unalia instead of saying asante; then we continue from there.
THIS simple basic maths. I used your own figures.
OPINIONS MUST BE RESPECTED.
You shouldn't be able to just change what someone wrote even if you disagree. Imagine what kind of place this becomes if anybody with edit power just overwrites what they disagree with. That's the quickest way to kill a forum.
Agreed! Njamlik 2.0 :o
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Desperado looking for lame excuse. All I did was correct a mathematical typo. The title here is misleading.
Agreed! Njamlik 2.0 :o
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Desperado looking for lame excuse. All I did was correct a mathematical typo. The title here is misleading.
Agreed! Njamlik 2.0 :o
You are shameless with this patronizing bullcrap about unwanted corrections, and desperate is your middle name, forcing edits on another grownup's post. Nipateans are not your children. Enda mark kitabu ya mtoto wako with a red pen, huna adabu. 8)
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Nyaboke ama kerubo check the dude invited me to mark his work. I sticky hit. He was very desperate for my comments. He couldnt wait for it. I took my time, took his dirty work to nice excel, and was starting to critique - and he went bonkers.
Th man is suppose to be grateful that I corrected his maths - mara he started crying ohoo I dont know what you have done with my maths :) :) gave him back his excel; and we didnt even get to review; before he QUIT AFTER IT HIT HIM THAT RAO WAS GOING NOWHERE
You anger cannot make Raila win - if excel ni NGUMU - sembuze next election :) :)
You are shameless, desperate is your middle name. Now forcing edits on another grownup's post. Nipateans are not your children. Enda mark kitabu ya mtoto wako with a red pen, huna adabu. 8)
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Pundit stop it! Just apologize and we ask Veritas to remove your mod powers. You make grammatical and logical mistake all the time but we never edit then you come here justifying your despotism. Unacceptable.
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I already apologized 😂 and put back his wrong maths.What more do you want..make Raila pork..hiyo nayo siwezi
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I already apologized 😂 and put back his wrong maths.What more do you want..make Raila pork..hiyo nayo siwezi
What the heck even compelled you to edit another person's posts? I don't get :o
Africans are special breed aki ya mungu :D democracy is alien in our gene pool.
Each one of us is a mini tiktator unto himself given half a chance.
Aibu kubwa
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Edit or correct his mathematics for him...with full disclosure.
What is worse here - dishonest fake lynch mob or helping clean up a mess he presented here;
Facts are in this thread. He was anxious for my input. I did justice to him.
I started with basic maths review and edited the title to reflect the correct maths.
I dont think that ought to be a problem - we didnt even get to analyse his projection or numbers;
As he came short - and was already on a mental catharsis.
Read slowly - and you'll see Pajero mental breakdown in context.
If Raila is losing; You cannot blame ME :) :)
What the heck even compelled you to edit another person's posts? I don't get :o
Africans are special breed aki ya mungu :D democracy is alien in our gene pool.
Each one of us is a mini tiktator unto himself given half a chance.
Aibu kubwa
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Edit or correct his mathematics for him...with full disclosure.
What is worse here - dishonest fake lynch mob or helping clean up a mess he presented here;
Facts are in this thread. He was anxious for my input. I did justice to him.
I started with basic maths review and edited the title to reflect the correct maths.
I dont think that ought to be a problem - we didnt even get to analyse his projection or numbers;
As he came short - and was already on a mental catharsis.
Read slowly - and you'll see Pajero mental breakdown in context.
If Raila is losing; You cannot blame ME :) :)
Mwana, uko ni shida kweli. You are still protesting after hearted apology, now you are doubling down :-\ I don't get it.
We can disagree all day but let us play fair, don't be underhanded and juvenile. You kill the collegial atmosphere people leave, simple.
You committed a grave mistake. Dishonesty is an enemy of open discourse.
Raila losing is not objective fact as elections have not been held yet so stop gaslighting us.
Pajero-gate will be your downfall, Veritas has to take stern action or this forum will die.
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Apologize for what?
That was a joke.
This not kindergarten where we give cry babies lollilpop
This guy came up with basic arithmetic's - obviously looking for input - we should have resolved that calculation - then moved on.
This forum is only alive because I sustain it.
Otherwise it dead.
It almost seem dead if I stop posting on it.
And dont ever imagine being a moderator is something I even consider to be anything.
Bring on YOUR FACTS - defend them or go home.
In fact if it was mine - I would have been very grateful - and I would have been very happy for changes to be made.
I share my stuff to make them better - if someone notice an error - I more than happy to fix it.
Mwana, uko ni shida kweli. You are still protesting after hearted apology, now you are doubling down :-\ I don't get it.
We can disagree all day but let us play fair, don't be underhanded and juvenile. You kill the collegial atmosphere people leave, simple.
You committed a grave mistake. Dishonesty is an enemy of open discourse.
Raila losing is not objective fact as elections have not been held yet so stop gaslighting us.
Pajero-gate will be your downfall, Veritas has to take stern action or this forum will die.
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Most of you need to learn to be OPEN MINDED. You need to be nimble minded. To be able to change your mind in face of facts. That is what I do. This forums are only useful if you're here to learn. I change my mind almost daily because I learn from better ideas.