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Title: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 04, 2022, 09:51:07 PM

Mr Gachagua also understands the art of mobilisation. Money was the other most important factor that saw him snatch the running mate ticket from Prof Kithure Kindiki, who was the favourite of Mt Kenya UDA-affiliated lawmakers (https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/william-ruto-the-complex-politico-with-a-split-personality-3838046)

Pundit, meanwhile hii ya chini, is making the rounds in social media ...
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 04, 2022, 10:18:22 PM
You're wasting bandwidth with such propaganda.
This forum is for analysis, punditry and such intellectual engagement - not base propaganda.
Most people who can read twitter or facebook are long decided.

Besides if we want to know anything about Ruto - RvHH is here - and is family to wsr - so we can get it raw.

Concentrate on telling us how your distant cousin will survive the oncoming 24 wheeler kenya kwanza in Bungoma.

Or how Wamunyinyi will survive the in Kanduyi against the brother of that journalist - forgot his name - who use to write for weekly in 1990s.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 04, 2022, 10:20:44 PM
That is fake. Gachagua is a real Kikuyu and DP from day one said he would pick a real Kikuyu alpha Male with prayerful wife and kids. Gachagua earned it, forget it! Kipruto has single vote because his wife and kids will vote for Ruto!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 04, 2022, 11:02:10 PM
Oh, so now even National media like in this case, Daily Nation is "propaganda"? Unlike you I am not going off on a tangent with a stale recycled rant.  Instead I have quoted the source verbatim  via the link to the major daily which btw was first licensed before you were born.
Quote from: RV Pundit on June 04, 2022, 10:18:22 PM
You're wasting bandwidth with such propaganda.
This forum is for analysis, punditry and such intellectual engagement - not base propaganda.
Most people who can read twitter or facebook are long decided.

Besides if we want to know anything about Ruto - RvHH is here - and is family to wsr - so we can get it raw.

Concentrate on telling us how your distant cousin will survive the oncoming 24 wheeler kenya kwanza in Bungoma.

Or how Wamunyinyi will survive the in Kanduyi against the brother of that journalist - forgot his name - who use to write for weekly in 1990s.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
He wasn't; it was a ceremonial post that he created for himself. Kipruto as a Nandi man wanted to be Infront among other demands but DP told him to lay low so that non Kales can take the charge of UDA. He wasn't having it, so he decided to bolt out. His demands were just too much!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
Honest - find out how he stole and built himself huge mansion in Karen - when he was Agri minister.
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 12:45:34 AM
He must be very broke after a 15yrs out of power;
Kirwa has always been a rebel;
Part of it - because he born and grew up in Tanzania - then lived in Kitale - so being Kalenjin has little meaning to him
There is whole division in Tanzania - of Nandis - whom by now are probably bonafida bongo-men. I think they are past Arusha - forgot the district name.
This distinct from Barbabaig/Datoog - who are closer to kuria.
Some like kirwa cameback from Tanzania, became squattors and eventually got resettled.
Nandis after the Koitatel war - had most of their land taken - as war repartition.
Nandis seeing the land so squeezed moved out - some went to Tanzania, some Uganda (Kweenet district is more Nandis than Sebeis), some to West pokot, others kipsigis, and even some became Luhyas.
Unable to countanace Brits take over and forced reduction of cattle - they drove off with cattle - wherever they could find pasture.
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 12:31:53 AM
He wasn't; it was a ceremonial post that he created for himself. Kipruto as a Nandi man wanted to be Infront among other demands but DP told him to lay low so that non Kales can take the charge of UDA. He wasn't having it, so he decided to bolt out. His demands were just too much!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
Most politicians stole but Ruto compound it by flaunting the loot fwaa. We been through this - most sadaka is Aror cash. Karen was built using YK92 cash.

Hajaonewa. It is why he cannot sue anyone - the burden of proof is a can of worms.


Quote from: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
Honest - find out how he stole and built himself huge mansion in Karen - when he was Agri minister.
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 01:04:10 AM
Ruto doesnt flaunt his wealth.
People who flaunt their wealth buy Feraris, go golfing, play casinos, polos, go for Dubai to watch formulae 1, such kind of things
They take their kids to the best schools abroad - where they pay millions.
They live glamorous lives..buy watches worth 20m...go for expensive holidays, name it.
Ruto doesnt do any of that - if he has choppers - it because he needs it in politics.

Ruto is different - Ruto invest his money in his career (politics) and in business ventures.
Ruto lifestyle has not changed much - his kids live normal life - attend normal schools - went to normal universities in kenya
Ruto himself live a pretty normal life - I bet he retires to cup of ketepa tea before settling for ugali, mursik and sukuma wiki :) - occasional beef from Ichungwa butchery according to RvHH.
In that regard Ruto and Daniel Moi are twins...refusing to allow money to alter their lifes, remaining humbled, pious christians and grounded.

Ruto invest his money in Harambees because he knows it work - every serious politician from MCA to PORK - knows in kenya people want practical solution to their problems.
Long before you get speeches about the future - you have to demonstrate. If hustler thing - Ruto has to use his money for people to see what he means.

Raila has failed to get power in 40yrs because he doesnt invest in politics beyond lip services.
Lip services are okay - talking a storm - but it has limits.

Kenya politics remain essentially Tribe and Bribe. If you cannot contribute money to build schools, churches, hospital bills, and such - you'll not go far in kenya politics.

Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
Most politicians stole but Ruto compound it by flaunting the loot fwaa. We been through this - most sadaka is Aror cash. Karen was built using YK92 cash.

Hajaonewa. It is why he cannot sue anyone - the burden of proof is a can of worms.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 01:14:49 AM
Lol all that insha in defence of your clay idol. You told us he has bought media houses in major prep for this - si wamsaidie sasa. Those journalists are professionals - they are dispassionate - telling it as it is. Unless Gideon has bought them  :)

Your guy donated like 100M per month for years - HADHARANI - no Dubai trips or London mansions can beat that.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
Most politicians stole but Ruto compound it by flaunting the loot fwaa. We been through this - most sadaka is Aror cash. Karen was built using YK92 cash.

Hajaonewa. It is why he cannot sue anyone - the burden of proof is a can of worms.


Quote from: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
Honest - find out how he stole and built himself huge mansion in Karen - when he was Agri minister.
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
Funny how people who read regurgitated propaganda narrates it as gospel truth. DP has never stolen anyone's cash. DP invests his money wisely and returns are unbelievable. These are some of his investments. Millions of dollars invested over 15 years!
T. Rowe Price Large Cap Growth I   
JPMorgan SmartRetirement 2040 R6   
Vanguard Mid Cap Index I   
Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx Instl Pls   
JPMorgan SmartRetirement 2050 R6   
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: KenyanPlato on June 05, 2022, 01:18:03 AM
The day uhuru decided to ditch ruto kabisa
https://www.facebook.com/100004171633512/posts/2185893964892970/?app=fbl
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 01:18:30 AM
Why are you bitter when feed with facts. Of course it disagree with your nonsense that Ruto flaunt wealth. Ruto doesnt.

Ruto of course knows media is part of politics. He attempted to buy The Star - but South Africans refused. He attempted to acquire Kenyatta stable - but Kenyattas refused. He has few stakes in media - but definitely Macharia is the leader there - Moi is big player with Standard Group - and Kenyattas. Agha-Khan long gave up being independent and now compete with to the most pro-gov media house.

Thankfully for Ruto - social media is new game - and he has been keen to invest in social media - that is why likes of Itumbi  talk to Ruto on one to one basis.

Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:14:49 AM
Lol all that insha in defence of your clay idol. You told us he has bought media houses in major prep for this - si wamsaidie sasa. Those journalists are professionals - they are dispassionate - telling it as it is. Unless Gideon has bought them  :)

Your guy donated like 100M per month for years - HADHARANI - no Dubai trips or London mansions can beat that.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 01:31:48 AM
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:17:22 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:58:49 AM
Most politicians stole but Ruto compound it by flaunting the loot fwaa. We been through this - most sadaka is Aror cash. Karen was built using YK92 cash.

Hajaonewa. It is why he cannot sue anyone - the burden of proof is a can of worms.


Quote from: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 12:35:02 AM
Honest - find out how he stole and built himself huge mansion in Karen - when he was Agri minister.
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 12:19:08 AM
hahaha, Ruto was whining about media bias - yet they are just analyzing him dispassionately. These guys thrive on propaganda yet can't handle when their shit recoils off the fan.

Kirwa is one of few honest Kalenjin level headed not a psychophant. The man couldn't stand the backstabbing in UDA... he quit as UDA national vice chair and joined Azimio.
Funny how people who read regurgitated propaganda narrates it as gospel truth. DP has never stolen anyone's cash. DP invests his money wisely and returns are unbelievable. These are some of his investments. Millions of dollars invested over 15 years!
T. Rowe Price Large Cap Growth I   
JPMorgan SmartRetirement 2040 R6   
Vanguard Mid Cap Index I   
Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx Instl Pls   
JPMorgan SmartRetirement 2050 R6

Boss I don't doubt he is a great investor. But hio ya Aror hata hajakanusha - if is only short of a confession. Jamaa alikuwa anafukuzwa na Moi arudishe balance ya YK92 - so who are you fooling now? There is no proof but noone is fooled least of all the dispassionate journalists.

He can skip the debates if it will help his case.
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:32:48 AM
Quote from: KenyanPlato on June 05, 2022, 01:18:03 AM
The day uhuru decided to ditch ruto kabisa
https://www.facebook.com/100004171633512/posts/2185893964892970/?app=fbl
Uhuru want protection for Fuliza, Brookside, mshwari, Northlands, KQ, and other Kenyatta empire ventures; DP wants 15% cut or everything goes. That is the beef between Uhuru and Ruto, nothing else!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
Now that it a campaign issues - I think it beyond negotiation - Ruto has to spill some blood otherwise revolution will become like NARC - stillborn. I think time for negotiation ended - now its time for action. Ruto when he win should do it very swiftly otherwise he wont be able to do it - and that will create huge problems that saw Kibaki move from 65 percent - to losing a referendum in 2yrs.
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:32:48 AM
Uhuru want protection for Fuliza, Brookside, mshwari, Northlands, KQ, and other Kenyatta empire ventures; DP wants 15% cut or everything goes. That is the beef between Uhuru and Ruto, nothing else!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 01:43:21 AM
RVHH your lies are easy to expose

UDA Names 31 Officials to Run Its Political Affairs
6 OCTOBER 2021
Quote
According to a list deposited at the office of the Registrar of Political Parties, the other officials are Mr Muthama's three deputies, former Cabinet Minister Kipruto Kirwa, Kenya National Union of Nurses (Knun) Secretary-General Seth Panyako and Mr Nicholas Marete.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202110070132.html
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:48:08 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
Now that it a campaign issues - I think it beyond negotiation - Ruto has to spill some blood otherwise revolution will become like NARC - stillborn. I think time for negotiation ended - now its time for action. Ruto when he win should do it very swiftly otherwise he wont be able to do it - and that will create huge problems that saw Kibaki move from 65 percent - to losing a referendum in 2yrs.
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:32:48 AM
Uhuru want protection for Fuliza, Brookside, mshwari, Northlands, KQ, and other Kenyatta empire ventures; DP wants 15% cut or everything goes. That is the beef between Uhuru and Ruto, nothing else!
DP is swift and sure like Kimodo dragon. DP's ambition is to deliver for ordinary folks, not so much for himself. The truth is you cannot deliver for Kenyans unless you vanquish the few that is holding Kenya economy hostage. It is going to be a mess very soon before it gets better! Moi  mafia and Uhuru mafia are scared of DP. Raila as fully assured them of protection, but DP is elusive. The people must be protected first before the leaders....
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:49:43 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:43:21 AM
RVHH your lies are easy to expose

UDA Names 31 Officials to Run Its Political Affairs
6 OCTOBER 2021
Quote
According to a list deposited at the office of the Registrar of Political Parties, the other officials are Mr Muthama's three deputies, former Cabinet Minister Kipruto Kirwa, Kenya National Union of Nurses (Knun) Secretary-General Seth Panyako and Mr Nicholas Marete.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202110070132.html
Those are news lifted from social media. I agree but it was ceremonial positions like sitting on the unpaid board!
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 01:52:20 AM
Here is the other independent- minded Kalenjin.

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Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Nefertiti on June 05, 2022, 01:57:09 AM
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Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 02:03:41 AM
Everyone is bitter by the crowds DP is pulling daily! NIS report showing him with 8% lead is painful, especially when Raila has lost four times..
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:57:09 AM
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Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: patel on June 05, 2022, 04:42:30 AM
Hustler must vanquish Uhuru mafia, Raila mafia and moi mafia for the country to live. These mafias have held country hostage for far too long.
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:48:08 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on June 05, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
Now that it a campaign issues - I think it beyond negotiation - Ruto has to spill some blood otherwise revolution will become like NARC - stillborn. I think time for negotiation ended - now its time for action. Ruto when he win should do it very swiftly otherwise he wont be able to do it - and that will create huge problems that saw Kibaki move from 65 percent - to losing a referendum in 2yrs.
Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on June 05, 2022, 01:32:48 AM
Uhuru want protection for Fuliza, Brookside, mshwari, Northlands, KQ, and other Kenyatta empire ventures; DP wants 15% cut or everything goes. That is the beef between Uhuru and Ruto, nothing else!
DP is swift and sure like Kimodo dragon. DP's ambition is to deliver for ordinary folks, not so much for himself. The truth is you cannot deliver for Kenyans unless you vanquish the few that is holding Kenya economy hostage. It is going to be a mess very soon before it gets better! Moi  mafia and Uhuru mafia are scared of DP. Raila as fully assured them of protection, but DP is elusive. The people must be protected first before the leaders....
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 05, 2022, 05:24:13 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:31:48 AM
Boss I don't doubt he is a great investor. But hio ya Aror hata hajakanusha - if is only short of a confession. Jamaa alikuwa anafukuzwa na Moi arudishe balance ya YK92 - so who are you fooling now? There is no proof but noone is fooled least of all the dispassionate journalists.

He can skip the debates if it will help his case.
Robina, his way of Kanusharing is rather strange I must admit. Split personality indeed. Here he is on Arror, telling Kenyans and his gullible hustlers audience that 7B is pocket change.

Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 05, 2022, 05:28:10 AM
RVHH lost his mojo. Removed from reality, tese days he talks to himself on this forum. In yesteryears he shocked us by declaring openly that Ruto was "his Jesus".

Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:43:21 AM
RVHH your lies are easy to expose

UDA Names 31 Officials to Run Its Political Affairs
6 OCTOBER 2021
Quote
According to a list deposited at the office of the Registrar of Political Parties, the other officials are Mr Muthama's three deputies, former Cabinet Minister Kipruto Kirwa, Kenya National Union of Nurses (Knun) Secretary-General Seth Panyako and Mr Nicholas Marete.

https://allafrica.com/stories/202110070132.html

Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 05, 2022, 05:40:55 AM
Quote from: Robina on June 05, 2022, 01:57:09 AM
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@Punda, had no comeback for this one, even after I challenged him to explain. Donald Kipkorir doing a good job exposing lies peddled by Talai clan and itumbi.

Quote from: audacityofhope on May 29, 2022, 11:07:20 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on May 29, 2022, 09:42:09 AM
The state of affairs
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT51tu1WYAIyKFf?format=jpg&name=900x900)


Ruto's fake crowds have been debunked. What Itumbi cooks on his laptop will not translate into votes on Aug 9th.  Ruto holds a rally in Maa and those nearest the dias not a single attendant has a "rungu". Compare real Azimio crowds in Maa vs what Itumbi posts for Ruto. Ask fellow Kale, Lawyer Donald Kipkorir

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Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 05, 2022, 09:19:01 PM
Bump
Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: audacityofhope on June 06, 2022, 02:21:47 AM
Quote from: audacityofhope on June 04, 2022, 09:51:07 PM

Mr Gachagua also understands the art of mobilisation. Money was the other most important factor that saw him snatch the running mate ticket from Prof Kithure Kindiki, who was the favourite of Mt Kenya UDA-affiliated lawmakers (https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/william-ruto-the-complex-politico-with-a-split-personality-3838046)

Pundit, meanwhile hii ya chini, is making the rounds in social media ...

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Title: Re: William Ruto: The complex politico with a split personality
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on June 06, 2022, 03:56:36 AM
Quote from: RV Pundit on June 04, 2022, 10:18:22 PM
You're wasting bandwidth with such propaganda.
This forum is for analysis, punditry and such intellectual engagement - not base propaganda.
Most people who can read twitter or facebook are long decided.

Besides if we want to know anything about Ruto - RvHH is here - and is family to wsr - so we can get it raw.

Concentrate on telling us how your distant cousin will survive the oncoming 24 wheeler kenya kwanza in Bungoma.

Or how Wamunyinyi will survive the in Kanduyi against the brother of that journalist - forgot his name - who use to write for weekly in 1990s.
:lolz:  and yet you unironically routinely inundate it with Itumbi garbage.