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Title: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 30, 2022, 09:27:58 PM
I see finally John Barorot has retired and joined politics.
He was made Deputy Governor of Uasin Gishu by Chelilim - must have been Ruto order.

Like Chirchir - Eng Barorot run KPTC then Telkom - then Safaricom - Airtel and back to Telkom.
Barorot is one of kenya biggest IT gurus - who deeply understand complex IT+Telcomms systems.
For long time he was CTO of Safaricom, Airtel, Telkom.

He is also a billionaire from deals with Safaricom, Airtel and Telkom.
You know buying a switch or base station is crazy money
And is very close to Ruto and Davis Chirchir.

I can almost bet he will be Ruto chief presidential agent - and together with Chirchir - will drive Ruto parrallel systems.

Gicheru arudi to ISP yake Mwananchi to sell bandwidth - Barorot and Chirchir are bad news :) with 40yrs of real experience from old Telkom running copper wires in the country.

Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Pajero on May 30, 2022, 10:14:14 PM
This one looks like a kamagut goat herder
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 30, 2022, 10:17:36 PM
Looks can be deceptive. He is very black - that is what I remember. I use to see him drive off his huge mercedes in Gigiri from his mansion. We were neigberbours - our office i mean. Kidero was next - then Kiplagat the former PS with his goan/spanish looking wife edna kiplagat. Kidero house was big with a seperate Jacuzii - rented to Shell East Africa MD. Each of those house sits on at least 3 acres with monkeys and name it.

What I heard is excellent telcom+IT manager with deep knowledge of kenya. That is why he most sought to run telcom systems.

This one looks like a kamagut goat herder
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 30, 2022, 10:24:15 PM
Look like he is guy who sold Mobitelea shares to Biwott and Safaricom - that made them billions.
What I know he is very rich - owns thousands of acres in Eldoret.

https://www.kahawatungu.com/reasons-why-barorot-resigned-from-airtel-call-centre-staff-are-on-strike/
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: audacityofhope on May 31, 2022, 12:04:23 AM
IEBC is already complaining that someone has been tampering with their data. Unauthorized movement of voters to polling stations; they did not fill out formal paperwork. I heard Chebukati say as he addressed reporters
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Nefertiti on May 31, 2022, 01:31:46 AM
 :) someone really drunk on his own koolaid. So this "telco guru" will stop Mucheru rigging or what? Engineers are a dime a dozen - no need to offer anyone DG or such post.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 01:37:52 AM
Muchero knows nothing. He started ISP with his sister and made some money after they sold Wananchi to Zuku. Got hired by Google as it first Africa head and run around like he knows anything. He KNOWS NOTHING.

Barorot run Safaricom with legendary MJ for 10yrs as CTO. Then he run Airtel. Telkom. That is not a guy you want to joke with.

Nobody knows kenya Telcom infra like Barorot....he has served as CTO basically of all the big players.

Ruto has three very serious tech guys - Chirchir, Barorot and Chepkwony - all cut their teeth under the tuteleage of Eng Ngeny of Telkom/Posta and though they are in their 50 and 60s - they know their shiet - all of them are billionaires. Not small boys like Mucheru :)

Chepkwony is definitely the richest - owning the Jamii stable of companies - including Jamii telcom that has 4G license. Barorot next - and Chirchir third. Those three will deliver tech side of the election bila jasho. Chepkowny alone with his Faiba network is enough.

Mucheru - is an idiot just shouting - I think he has marketting degree or something like that :)

:) someone really drunk on his own koolaid. So this "telco guru" will stop Mucheru rigging or what? Engineers are a dime a dozen - no need to offer anyone DG or such post.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Pragmatic on May 31, 2022, 02:03:30 AM
Oooh my Lord.... I now confirm that you are very naive!!!

I know all 3 gentlemen you mention both at a professional level and as friends.

They are not the Demi-gods you are describing. You are in awe of mere mortals. And the characterisation and skill you are presenting isn’t at that level you are touting here.

Bararot was at Moi Uni if I am not wrong... he is just a normal engineer graduate like many similar ones all over. A dime a dozen as Robina says. He made his “billions” through Huawei with MJ when they skimmed them for the 4G and Data roll-out as well as Radio Network expansion.

As for Chepkwony, I don’t think he is even a graduate... but definitely worked at KPTC at some point. He is a billionaire, yes... part of that came initially from having been very close to the Moi regime and got a couple of plots allocated in Nairobi which he later sold for a tidy sum. He was a close pal of Gachanja, former Land Commissioner. His telco biasharas have done well for sure... and kudos for his smart moves.

Chirchir was CIO Telkom Kenya and led the TKL privatisation. When you a in charge of such a process and are a custodian of certain information especially about the expansive properties that TKL had, you can do a couple of things with that info (i.e. if you “want to”). What is undeniable is that Chirchir is a very competent fellow, a smart head. He is also a very good project manager and can be very keen once given a task to deliver.

Now, the less said about Mucheru the better. But the person he started Wananchi with wasn’t his sister but a former work colleague (Njeri Rionge) where they were both previously employed. She is now a “Prophetess”... .


Muchero knows nothing. He started ISP with his sister and made some money after they sold Wananchi to Zuku. Got hired by Google as it first Africa head and run around like he knows anything. He KNOWS NOTHING.

Barorot run Safaricom with legendary MJ for 10yrs as CTO. Then he run Airtel. Telkom. That is not a guy you want to joke with.

Nobody knows kenya Telcom infra like Barorot....he has served as CTO basically of all the big players.

Ruto has three very serious tech guys - Chirchir, Barorot and Chepkwony - all cut their teeth under the tuteleage of Eng Ngeny of Telkom/Posta and though they are in their 50 and 60s - they know their shiet - all of them are billionaires. Not small boys like Mucheru :)

Chepkwony is definitely the richest - owning the Jamii stable of companies - including Jamii telcom that has 4G license. Barorot next - and Chepkwony third.

Mucheru - is an idiot just shouting - I think he has marketting degree or something like that :)

:) someone really drunk on his own koolaid. So this "telco guru" will stop Mucheru rigging or what? Engineers are a dime a dozen - no need to offer anyone DG or such post.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 02:12:57 AM
So because someone went to Moi - he is not good.

Moi produced the best and only telecommunication engineers. No other university did that in Kenya. UON and JKUAT produced mostly electrical engineers who knew little telecomm but because of lack of jobs - you find them in Telcomms or ICT

Barorot is the best...and is highly sought in telecomm field.

Chepkwony you're wrong. Chepkwony made his money almost by accident. He is also engineer - who started at KPTC - then during 2003 - he went to South Africa for master degree.

While there - he either saw or started building Simu ya Jamii contraption. Basically get headset hook it up to the battery and he use to sell it for 100K - and that was nothing - when safaricom and airtel saw volumes of call from simu ya jamii - they made chepkwony super-dealer - and he shared money from every simu ya Jamii sold.

Overnight Chepkwony became a billionaire. Ruto and Kulei invested in most of his ventures when he had proven himself.Chepkwony then formed Kass fm, many jamii companies and is now a billionaire.

As for Chirchir - I worked for his Kenya online ISP in late 90s - and then he also went into safaricom dealership with BonVoyage - and of course is also into tea sector with factory Chebango EPZ.

And they are not techies - but tech managers - who know how to run complex systems that you need in 24 hour no margin of error operations.

Not marketting guru Gicheru lying to Raila that he knows shiet about computers.

Oooh my Lord.... I now confirm that you are very naive!!!

I know all 3 gentlemen you mention both at a professional level and as friends.

They are not the Demi-gods you are describing. You are in awe of mere mortals. And the characterisation and skill you are presenting isn’t at that level you are touting here.

Bararot was at Moi Uni if I am not wrong... he is just a normal engineer graduate like many similar ones all over. A dime a dozen as Robina says. He made his “billions” through Huawei with MJ when they skimmed them for the 4G and Data roll-out as well as Radio Network expansion.

As for Chepkwony, I don’t think he is even a graduate... but definitely worked at KPTC at some point. He is a billionaire, yes... part of that came initially from having been very close to the Moi regime and got a couple of plots allocated in Nairobi which he later sold for a tidy sum. He was a close pal of Gachanja, former Land Commissioner. His telco biasharas have done well for sure... and kudos for his smart moves.

Chirchir was CIO Telkom Kenya and led the TKL privatisation. When you a in charge of such a process and are a custodian of certain information especially about the expansive properties that TKL had, you can do a couple of things with that info (i.e. if you “want to”). What is undeniable is that Chirchir is a very competent fellow, a smart head. He is also a very good project manager and can be very keen once given a task to deliver.

Now, the less said about Mucheru the better. But the person he started Wananchi with wasn’t his sister but a former work colleague (Njeri Rionge) where they were both previously employed. She is now a “Prophetess”... .


Muchero knows nothing. He started ISP with his sister and made some money after they sold Wananchi to Zuku. Got hired by Google as it first Africa head and run around like he knows anything. He KNOWS NOTHING.

Barorot run Safaricom with legendary MJ for 10yrs as CTO. Then he run Airtel. Telkom. That is not a guy you want to joke with.

Nobody knows kenya Telcom infra like Barorot....he has served as CTO basically of all the big players.

Ruto has three very serious tech guys - Chirchir, Barorot and Chepkwony - all cut their teeth under the tuteleage of Eng Ngeny of Telkom/Posta and though they are in their 50 and 60s - they know their shiet - all of them are billionaires. Not small boys like Mucheru :)

Chepkwony is definitely the richest - owning the Jamii stable of companies - including Jamii telcom that has 4G license. Barorot next - and Chepkwony third.

Mucheru - is an idiot just shouting - I think he has marketting degree or something like that :)

:) someone really drunk on his own koolaid. So this "telco guru" will stop Mucheru rigging or what? Engineers are a dime a dozen - no need to offer anyone DG or such post.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Pragmatic on May 31, 2022, 02:30:23 AM
Dammmnnn.... Mr. Too much know!!!

I know all that history you are presenting about Chepkwony and his biasharas... I have been hobnobbing with him since 1995/6, when he had just left Telkom and was now starting out in business. I insist I don’t think he is a graduate engineer. When I tell you his major start was in property with Gachanja, I know what I am talking about. Yes, his huge break was of course Jamii... and then he got into a coupling with Bararot and MJ at Safcom when they made him a major player... supplier of leased lines by his startup metro network when Safcom got started in data services.

Mr. I know all these guys very intimately, let’s not go there.

So because someone went to Moi - he is not good.

Moi produced the best and only telecommunication engineers. No other university did that in Kenya. UON and JKUAT produced mostly electrical engineers who knew little telecomm but because of lack of jobs - you find them in Telcomms or ICT

Barorot is the best...and is highly sought in telecomm field.

Chepkwony you're wrong. Chepkwony made his money almost by accident. He is also engineer - who started at KPTC - then during 2003 - he went to South Africa for master degree.

While there - he either saw or started building Simu ya Jamii contraption. Basically get headset hook it up to the battery and he use to sell it for 100K - and that was nothing - when safaricom and airtel saw volumes of call from simu ya jamii - they made chepkwony super-dealer - and he shared money from every simu ya Jamii sold.

Overnight Chepkwony became a billionaire. Ruto and Kulei invested in most of his ventures when he proven himself.

Chepkwony the formed Kass fm, many jamii telcoms and is now a billionaire. As for Chirchir - I worked for his Kenya online ISP in late 90s - and then he also went into safaricom dealership with BonVoyage - and of course is also into tea sector with factory Chebango EPZ.

And they are not techies - but tech managers - who know how to run complex systems that you need in 24 hour no margin of error operations.

Not marketting guru Gicheru lying to Raila that he knows shiet about computers.

Oooh my Lord.... I now confirm that you are very naive!!!

I know all 3 gentlemen you mention both at a professional level and as friends.

They are not the Demi-gods you are describing. You are in awe of mere mortals. And the characterisation and skill you are presenting isn’t at that level you are touting here.

Bararot was at Moi Uni if I am not wrong... he is just a normal engineer graduate like many similar ones all over. A dime a dozen as Robina says. He made his “billions” through Huawei with MJ when they skimmed them for the 4G and Data roll-out as well as Radio Network expansion.

As for Chepkwony, I don’t think he is even a graduate... but definitely worked at KPTC at some point. He is a billionaire, yes... part of that came initially from having been very close to the Moi regime and got a couple of plots allocated in Nairobi which he later sold for a tidy sum. He was a close pal of Gachanja, former Land Commissioner. His telco biasharas have done well for sure... and kudos for his smart moves.

Chirchir was CIO Telkom Kenya and led the TKL privatisation. When you a in charge of such a process and are a custodian of certain information especially about the expansive properties that TKL had, you can do a couple of things with that info (i.e. if you “want to”). What is undeniable is that Chirchir is a very competent fellow, a smart head. He is also a very good project manager and can be very keen once given a task to deliver.

Now, the less said about Mucheru the better. But the person he started Wananchi with wasn’t his sister but a former work colleague (Njeri Rionge) where they were both previously employed. She is now a “Prophetess”... .


Muchero knows nothing. He started ISP with his sister and made some money after they sold Wananchi to Zuku. Got hired by Google as it first Africa head and run around like he knows anything. He KNOWS NOTHING.

Barorot run Safaricom with legendary MJ for 10yrs as CTO. Then he run Airtel. Telkom. That is not a guy you want to joke with.

Nobody knows kenya Telcom infra like Barorot....he has served as CTO basically of all the big players.

Ruto has three very serious tech guys - Chirchir, Barorot and Chepkwony - all cut their teeth under the tuteleage of Eng Ngeny of Telkom/Posta and though they are in their 50 and 60s - they know their shiet - all of them are billionaires. Not small boys like Mucheru :)

Chepkwony is definitely the richest - owning the Jamii stable of companies - including Jamii telcom that has 4G license. Barorot next - and Chepkwony third.

Mucheru - is an idiot just shouting - I think he has marketting degree or something like that :)

:) someone really drunk on his own koolaid. So this "telco guru" will stop Mucheru rigging or what? Engineers are a dime a dozen - no need to offer anyone DG or such post.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 02:33:32 AM
No you dont.
Chepkwony made his money almost in Kibaki regime.
He was broke KPTC engineer and got break while doing his MSC in South Africa.
Now if you dont know such basic what do you you know.
Simu ya JAMII made chepkwony!
Unless you're talking about another Joshua Chepkwony.
Dammmnnn.... Mr. Too much know!!!

I know all that history you are presenting about Chepkwony and his biasharas... I have been hobnobbing with him since 1995/6, when he had just left Telkom and was now starting out in business. I insist I don’t think he is a graduate engineer. When I tell you his major start was in property with Gachanja, I know what I am talking about. Yes, his huge break was of course Jamii... and then he got into a coupling with Bararot and MJ at Safcom when they made him a major player... supplier of leased lines by his startup metro network when Safcom got started in data services.

Mr. I know all these guys very intimately, let’s not go there.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Pragmatic on May 31, 2022, 02:42:21 AM
You definitely have no clue what you are talking about....!!!

As you grow wiser, you will discover that it is perfectly ok to give a wide berth to stuff you don’t know rather than embarrassing yourself.

No you dont.
Chepkwony made his money almost in Kibaki regime.
He was broke KPTC engineer and got break while doing his MSC in South Africa.
Now if you dont know such basic what do you you know.
Simu ya JAMII made chepkwony!
Unless you're talking about another Joshua Chepkwony.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 02:43:44 AM
Want to bet 1000usd or your too broke :)
I will provide your a clip of Chepkowny interview in 2002/2003 as LANKY telcom engineer with his simu ya Jamii contraption.
I have memory that never forgets :)
Be careful.
You definitely have no clue what you are talking about....!!!
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Pragmatic on May 31, 2022, 02:50:49 AM
You are wagering on what?? That CK ain’t a graduate engineer or what?? I said I don’t think... I was not emphatic that he ain’t.

The rest of stuff I have said is factual and incontrovertible. I know what I am talking about, not a story I read somewhere.

Want to bet 1000usd or your too broke :)
I will provide your a clip of Chepkowny interview in 2002/2003 as LANKY telcom engineer with his simu ya Jamii contraption.
I have memory that never forgets :)
Be careful.
You definitely have no clue what you are talking about....!!!
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 02:59:09 AM
Youre making ridicolous claims; of sijui Wilson Gachanja;
NONENSE.
Chepkwony worked for KPTC as an engineer;
At one point he went to South Africa as master students;
He saw Simu ya Jamii there; and came and made local copy of it;
And he made serious money.
With capital; he invested in KASS fm; and started to form small telcom and software companies;
2004- my friend was working for him.
I have guy who works till now in Jamii telcom..

This iS COWDUNG
As for Chepkwony, I don’t think he is even a graduate... but definitely worked at KPTC at some point. He is a billionaire, yes... part of that came initially from having been very close to the Moi regime and got a couple of plots allocated in Nairobi which he later sold for a tidy sum. He was a close pal of Gachanja, former Land Commissioner. His telco biasharas have done well for sure... and kudos for his smart moves.


You are wagering on what?? That CK ain’t a graduate engineer or what?? I said I don’t think... I was not emphatic that he ain’t.

The rest of stuff I have said is factual and incontrovertible. I know what I am talking about, not a story I read somewhere.

Want to bet 1000usd or your too broke :)
I will provide your a clip of Chepkowny interview in 2002/2003 as LANKY telcom engineer with his simu ya Jamii contraption.
I have memory that never forgets :)
Be careful.
You definitely have no clue what you are talking about....!!!
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on May 31, 2022, 03:57:21 AM
Pragmatic really pulled Pundit skirt here  :D

Some situations you just cut your losses instead of sticking your neck out for more embarrassment.

Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 07:17:21 AM
I am not your problem.
I am not a player.
I am a comentator.
Your problem is one WSR.
Dont make me your object of hate.
I dont play politics.
I am political pundit - armchair analyst - helping you understand the game.

If you must hate someone for making it hard for Baba - then please direct it to Ruto or even RVHH - who are related.

Pragmatic really pulled Pundit skirt here  :D

Some situations you just cut your losses instead of sticking your neck out for more embarrassment.


Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Githunguri on May 31, 2022, 07:18:59 AM
There are so many kenyan IT professionals in Kenya who have a wealth of experience.The only reason these two kalenjins are popular is because they were brokers to Moi people and Michael Joseph.I don't think they can even match the experience of current IT teams in Safaricom Airtel and Telecom.

Neither Azimio or UDA has monopoly of IT expertise,They both have well capable teams.The only thing is that Azimio has an upper hand because it is the one running government  and Kenya telecom sector.As long As IEBC can bring in defective or trouble some biometric kits,As long as Uhuru can jam the phone networks and internet,As long as Uhuru can switch off M-pesa by cutting money to agents,As long as  he can edge out UDA agents in GEMA,Multiply turnout in Nyanza Western apart from bungoma and Ukambani.There is no way Ruto can win.NO WAY.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 07:26:39 AM
Of course there are many talents - but is Azimio involving any in politics - or its marketer Gichuru with little knowledge assuring them he will do magic :).

The intention to rig; the capacity to rig; and the ability to pull it out in 24hours is something else.
Ruto will be protecting his vote very very thoroughly because he is very very organized.
Ruto also has mass support everywhere except Luo Nyanza - he will be impossible to be rigged because hustlers will man and oversee the polling station.

IEBC remain independent - not part of Azimio.

Leave wierd theories about jamming networks, switching off m-pesa and such crap - it will not happen. And if it happens smart team will know how to work around them. There are satellites out there which are out of CA control.

What will happen - 24 hours - whoever is organizationally at the top - will be on the top and ahead.

And what is most important - counter-intelligence - for Ruto - to know what Azimio are planning - for Azimio to know what Ruto is planning.

You may be suprised Ruto is planning to rig Azimio out :)

To be ahead - information or intelligence is key - and that requires building a trusted national network of informants relying information asap.

There are so many kenyan IT professionals in Kenya who have a wealth of experience.The only reason these two kalenjins are popular is because they were brokers to Moi people and Michael Joseph.I don't think they can even match the experience of current IT teams in Safaricom Airtel and Telecom.

Neither Azimio or UDA has monopoly of IT expertise,They both have well capable teams.The only thing is that Azimio has an upper hand because it is the one running government  and Kenya telecom sector.As long As IEBC can bring in defective or trouble some biometric kits,As long as Uhuru can jam the phone networks and internet,As long as Uhuru can switch off M-pesa by cutting money to agents,As long as  he can edge out UDA agents in GEMA,Multiply turnout in Nyanza Western apart from bungoma and Ukambani.There is no way Ruto can win.NO WAY.
Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Arcadian_Dreamer on May 31, 2022, 07:53:13 AM
I am not your problem.
I am not a player.
I am a comentator.
Your problem is one WSR.
Dont make me your object of hate.
I dont play politics.
I am political pundit - armchair analyst - helping you understand the game.

If you must hate someone for making it hard for Baba - then please direct it to Ruto or even RVHH - who are related.

Ooh puhleeze! not I'm a just a commentator schtick again. You are on the pay of UDA, kif up.

Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: RV Pundit on May 31, 2022, 07:55:43 AM
Sasa hii forum of 10 people - who can pay me :)
You look for RVHH hapo california - same city - and sort out your personal beef
RVHH can put your on direct line with Ruto - you plead for go slow on Raila:)
You can ask Ruto - wajaluo wakule kidogo :) :) :) - and he may listen and wait for 2032 :) :)

I have not seen Ruto anywhere 100 meters - and I have only seen him once in 100meters;
In short - focus your hate on WSR who is making your candidate Raila sweat.

Here we are just commentating the blows.



Ooh puhleeze! not I'm a just a commentator schtick again. You are on the pay of UDA, kif up.


Title: Re: Azimio - I think we have replacement for Davis Chirchir
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 31, 2022, 09:28:46 AM
Another one typical of Jatelo , That onky way elections will be won is through rigging. Product of lies that 2007,2013 and 2017 elections were rigged.
Come Aug 10th you will realise that Raila lost fair and square in all those years.
I belive he will write a book about it . Will be interesting to read it. Esp the Handshake bit.

There are so many kenyan IT professionals in Kenya who have a wealth of experience.The only reason these two kalenjins are popular is because they were brokers to Moi people and Michael Joseph.I don't think they can even match the experience of current IT teams in Safaricom Airtel and Telecom.

Neither Azimio or UDA has monopoly of IT expertise,They both have well capable teams.The only thing is that Azimio has an upper hand because it is the one running government  and Kenya telecom sector.As long As IEBC can bring in defective or trouble some biometric kits,As long as Uhuru can jam the phone networks and internet,As long as Uhuru can switch off M-pesa by cutting money to agents,As long as  he can edge out UDA agents in GEMA,Multiply turnout in Nyanza Western apart from bungoma and Ukambani.There is no way Ruto can win.NO WAY.