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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nefertiti on May 19, 2022, 06:44:34 PM
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:) this Ruto bossom-buddy likely to be barred from elections. Together with Sonko. Their only luck is cases will snake to SCORK and will be time-barred forcing IEBC to clear them
Sudi did not sit KCSE at Highway school - former principal
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-19-mp-sudi-did-not-sit-kcse-at-highway-school-former-principal/
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the thug pretended to be in Turkey for treatment to delay the case that been ongoing since 2016
Sudi is in Eldoret not Turkey, lawyers tell court
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-19-sudi-is-in-eldoret-not-turkey-lawyers-tell-court/
Court orders Sudi to prove he is out of country in forgery case
https://www.the-star.co.ke/print/news-page-nine/2022-05-18-court-orders-sudi-to-prove-he-is-out-of-country-in-forgery-case/
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That is not news.
The news is EACC flagged this case in 2013 and took Sudi to court.
Sudi has now done 10yrs
And is going for another 5yrs.
Something is wrong with judiciary.
This is still a magistrate level case.
You can imagine by time he exhaust all appeals - Sudi will have retired having served 25yrs.
We need to really think how justice system is totally broken. Not 10yrs.
Such a straightforward fraud case should not take 3 weeks.
It should be marathon hearing for 1 week; 1 week for defence; 3rd week decision.
Rather than dishing out bail - magistrate should perhaps keep people in jail and have marathon hearing.
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High Court bars IEBC from processing Sonko for Mombasa Governor race
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/high-court-bars-iebc-from-processing-sonko-for-mombasa-governor-race-3820252
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High Court bars IEBC from processing Sonko for Mombasa Governor race
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/high-court-bars-iebc-from-processing-sonko-for-mombasa-governor-race-3820252
Good! Only in a banana republic like Kenya can a politician formally convicted of corruption, confirmed by courts on appeal, still present himself for public office. Mambo ya Sonko na Waititu should be completely over. These two should never be in public office ever again, if we take our constitution seriously.
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I believe he has not exhausted all avenues of appeals and review.
March 20th is when he lost court of appeal
And subsequently appealed his impeachment at the supreme court.
After that he can even apply for legal review of his case....and keep it going until he is exhausted and dead :)
I think most of you are yet to understand the political or theoritical underpinning of chapter six.
It really applies to appointed officials - and as the last of the last resort for elected official
For the simple reason that Kenyans as per article 1 - are supreme - and they should enforce chapter six in the ballot box.
If our moral compass is so bad we can elect someone whose is jailbird, has been impeached, is drug dealer, name it - no constitution can save us.
Constitution should only protect us from Sonko appointing fellow jailbirds - but it cannot stop us from going to Kamiti, fishing the worst criminal and making him our president.
Nothing can save us if we dont want to save our selves.
IEBC should focus on giving us enough rope to hang or save ourselves.
All Sonko need to table is evidence of an active appeal or review - and that he can walk to any court - and file today - and get court case number from the court registar.
Good! Only in a banana republic like Kenya can a politician formally convicted of corruption, confirmed by courts on appeal, still present himself for public office. Mambo ya Sonko na Waititu should be completely over. These two should never be in public office ever again, if we take our constitution seriously.
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:) this Ruto bossom-buddy likely to be barred from elections. Together with Sonko. Their only luck is cases will snake to SCORK and will be time-barred forcing IEBC to clear them
Sudi did not sit KCSE at Highway school - former principal
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-19-mp-sudi-did-not-sit-kcse-at-highway-school-former-principal/
Stupid law, I think. But the law is the law.
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:) this Ruto bossom-buddy likely to be barred from elections. Together with Sonko. Their only luck is cases will snake to SCORK and will be time-barred forcing IEBC to clear them
Sudi did not sit KCSE at Highway school - former principal
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-19-mp-sudi-did-not-sit-kcse-at-highway-school-former-principal/
Stupid law, I think. But the law is the law.
CJ is on such cases with gusto. Judges probably on orders to see them done.
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This is good news. Time to challenge Raila degree. Wacha Raila atowe makaratasi yake...
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I believe it has been found to be unconstitutional and frankly stupid as you say. He is only guilty now of fraud...but anybody can become an MP now. There is no need for forgery now...except for governors and president.
Stupid law, I think. But the law is the law.
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It very embarrasing to have such cases delayed this long.
CJ need to be awake - and fix the judiciary.
Kama ni pesa - Waitishe
CJ is on such cases with gusto. Judges probably on orders to see them done.
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This is good news. Time to challenge Raila degree. Wacha Raila atowe makaratasi yake...
What to challenge?
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His primary certificate cant be found. He never finished primary school. There is no record of high school attended. There is just a degree or diploma from germany.
I read EACC is asking where wakina Muthama got degrees yet have no primary or secondary - same for Raila.
What to challenge?
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So?
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So send DCI to Maranda Primary
EACC detectives obtain Joho primary school certificates - The ...https://theinformer.co.ke › News
Apr 5, 2017 — Detectives from the commission visited the school at Buxton area, where they obtained certified copies of certificates to ascertain the ...
So?
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This is where age advantage beat Sudi. Who remember Maranda headmaster 1950s?
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The guy who spilled the beans is still alive.
This is where age advantage beat Sudi. Who remember Maranda headmaster 1950s?
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Sudi's case is nothing special in Kenya. I know of a UDA senatorial candidate that only has A level's certificate. He even carries the title Eng., but has never attended any engineering classes. That law requiring any electoral candidates to have university degree should be scrapped. It has no bearing and only leads to more corruption in the society.
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It's a stupid law to require people in a very poor country to have college degree's. Many people don't have the opportunity to go to school. Let voters decide who they want and the let them live with their choices.
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Exactly. Even Idi Amin took Uganda to the next level.
It's a stupid law to require people in a very poor country to have college degree's. Many people don't have the opportunity to go to school. Let voters decide who they want and the let them live with their choices.
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Sudi's case is nothing special in Kenya. I know of a UDA senatorial candidate that only has A level's certificate. He even carries the title Eng., but has never attended any engineering classes. That law requiring any electoral candidates to have university degree should be scrapped. It has no bearing and only leads to more corruption in the society.
It's a stupid law to require people in a very poor country to have college degree's. Many people don't have the opportunity to go to school. Let voters decide who they want and the let them live with their choices.
@Kadudu & @Sema nikukosa degree ama both of you cannot interpret the Kenya Constitution? Look keenly at @Pundit post where he has tried to help you understand the law of the land as it applies today:
I believe it (The courts ruled it) unconstitutional (for MPs to require a degree) ... anybody can become an MP now. There is no need for forgery now...except for governors and president.
.... But the law is the law.
The law does not currently require a degree from an MP neither from a Senator. The High Court ruled that unconstitutional. (So it is pointless for MP & Senatir hopefuls to forge certificates). However it is mandatory for a President or Governor to have a degree. The rationale for that is that the president and Governors are National & County govt CEO. They are in charge of expenditure and therefore would need to understand budgets for prudent management of government finances. A good enough reason if you ask me!
Since many senator go on to contest Governership, many politicians have used this rotten Jubilee era as an opportunity to buy papers.
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Silly statement. Amin was a butcher.
Exactly. Even Idi Amin took Uganda to the next level.
It's a stupid law to require people in a very poor country to have college degree's. Many people don't have the opportunity to go to school. Let voters decide who they want and the let them live with their choices.
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Note, I did not go into details on the next level. :D
Silly statement. Amin was a butcher.
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What the courts decide and what the government does are two different things. Remember too the courts declared CDF illegal. Has it been scrapped? Miguna was declared Kenyan citizen by the courts. Yuko wapi leo?
I can see it was dumb of Sudi to fake his papers. Maybe he just wanted to be on the safe side.
Sudi's case is nothing special in Kenya. I know of a UDA senatorial candidate that only has A level's certificate. He even carries the title Eng., but has never attended any engineering classes. That law requiring any electoral candidates to have university degree should be scrapped. It has no bearing and only leads to more corruption in the society.
It's a stupid law to require people in a very poor country to have college degree's. Many people don't have the opportunity to go to school. Let voters decide who they want and the let them live with their choices.
@Kadudu & @Sema nikukosa degree ama both of you cannot interpret the Kenya Constitution? Look keenly at @Pundit post where he has tried to help you understand the law of the land as it applies today:
I believe it (The courts ruled it) unconstitutional (for MPs to require a degree) ... anybody can become an MP now. There is no need for forgery now...except for governors and president.
.... But the law is the law.
The law does not currently require a degree from an MP neither from a Senator. The High Court ruled that unconstitutional. (So it is pointless for MP & Senatir hopefuls to forge certificates). However it is mandatory for a President or Governor to have a degree. The rationale for that is that the president and Governors are National & County govt CEO. They are in charge of expenditure and therefore would need to understand budgets for prudent management of government finances. A good enough reason if you ask me!
Since many senator go on to contest Governership, many politicians have used this rotten Jubilee era as an opportunity to buy papers.
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Sudi forged before the law was declared unconstitutional.
He has 2 problems:
1. He may be found guilty of fraud
2. He cannot run for UG governor - he actually wanted to succeed Mandago
Sooner than later this will bite him in the ass despite appeals and abra cadabras.
What the courts decide and what the government does are two different things. Remember too the courts declared CDF illegal. Has it been scrapped? Miguna was declared Kenyan citizen by the courts. Yuko wapi leo?
I can see it was dumb of Sudi to fake his papers. Maybe he just wanted to be on the safe side.
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He will be found guilty - unless court is fake.
He will appeal and buy time.
Ultimately he should be fined...no jail for such offence.
Fraud is not big offence
But if linked to his MP seat - he may be fine more.
But Sudi is clearly not a fool - and will be Ruto Mark Too - and I see him scaling heights.
Governor ni kidogo kwake.
He will replace Mark Too.
Sudi forged before the law was declared unconstitutional.
He has 2 problems:
1. He may be found guilty of fraud
2. He cannot run for UG governor - he actually wanted to succeed Mandago
Sooner than later this will bite him in the ass despite appeals and abra cadabras.
What the courts decide and what the government does are two different things. Remember too the courts declared CDF illegal. Has it been scrapped? Miguna was declared Kenyan citizen by the courts. Yuko wapi leo?
I can see it was dumb of Sudi to fake his papers. Maybe he just wanted to be on the safe side.
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If the law was actually followed i believe Joho, Sonko, Waititu would not have become governors.
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If the law was actually followed i believe Joho, Sonko, Waititu would not have become governors.
Wrong Robina.
All the universities that "dished out" the degree certificates to all three confirmed they were genuine. If you ask me, some folks must have got a tidy sum to authenticate this stuff.
Hassan Joho degree is genuine, says Kampala University VC (https://nation.africa/kenya/counties/mombasa/Hassan-Joho--Kampala-University-Vice-Chancellor-Badru-Kateregga/1954178-2319328-mtwwxkz/index.html)
Sunday, May 18, 2014 — updated on June 29, 2020
Mombasa Governor Hassan Joho earned his degree from Kampala University legitimately, the institution's Vice Chancellor has said.
Speaking to reporters in Nairobi on Sunday, Prof Badru Kateregga said Mr Joho attended the university from 2009 to 2012.
“As far as Kampala University is concerned, the degree awarded to Mr Hassan Ali Joho is bonafide, lawful and authentic. (It) was genuinely awarded and Kampala University Senate cannot and will not recall, revoke or cancel an award that it deems to be valid, authentic and genuinely awarded,” he said.
Mombasa Governor Hassan Joho earned his degree from Kampala University legitimately, the institution's Vice Chancellor has said.
Speaking to reporters in Nairobi on Sunday, Prof Badru Kateregga said Mr Joho attended the university from 2009 to 2012.
“As far as Kampala University is concerned, the degree awarded to Mr Hassan Ali Joho is bonafide, lawful and authentic. (It) was genuinely awarded and Kampala University Senate cannot and will not recall, revoke or cancel an award that it deems to be valid, authentic and genuinely awarded,” he said.
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The Uganda National Council for Higher Education has doubted the validity of Mr Joho's degree.
“There was no clear evidence that academic due process was followed from admission to graduation regarding a Bachelor of Business Administration degree (Human Resource Management option) awarded to Mr Hassan Ali Joho by Kampala University,” the council said in a resolution.
NCHE has said that Mr Joho may not have been in Uganda to physically undertake studies, raising doubts about how the university awarded him the degree.
It was acting on the recommendations of a committee chaired by Mr S.H. Nsubuga, which claimed that Mr Joho “fraudulently obtained the said qualifications from Kampala University” and that he “neither qualified for admission to the degree programme nor was he subjected to the due process”.
However, Prof Kateregga questioned the Council's authority on the matter. “The law does not require them to recognise any degree. The duty of National councils is to accredit programmes, once the programmes have been accredited; the question of degree awarding is the question of university senate,” he said.
The Constitution requires a governor to be a degree holder.
I have highlighted the last paragraph for the benefit of @Kadudu & @Sema. Nation Newspapers schooling people like you. Hayo tu.