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Title: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 06:05:54 PM
Rumours are he accepted Uhuru and Gideon deal yesterday.
He is going to blame Wambua and Maanzo - and say after deep reflection - he has decided to rejoin Azimio
Uncondtionally

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Kadudu on May 19, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
Poor Kalonzo. He cannot make a decision on his own.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 07:04:27 PM
He peaked - so he has to make the best of his 8 percent - every election. he has bad two bad gambles. He is going for the third.
Quote from: Kadudu on May 19, 2022, 06:16:04 PM
Poor Kalonzo. He cannot make a decision on his own.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Nefertiti on May 19, 2022, 07:08:32 PM
You wish. Expect colorful unveiling of 3-leg.. it must appear clearly Kalonzo drove a superhard bargain to benefit Kamba and Wiper.

Quote from: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 06:05:54 PM
Rumours are he accepted Uhuru and Gideon deal yesterday.
He is going to blame Wambua and Maanzo - and say after deep reflection - he has decided to rejoin Azimio
Uncondtionally

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 07:27:12 PM
That is PR - he is dead. Which is great because he is one of most annoying leaders we have. Kenya Kwanza will usher fresh blood.
Quote from: Robina on May 19, 2022, 07:08:32 PM
You wish. Expect colorful unveiling of 3-leg.. it must appear clearly Kalonzo drove a superhard bargain to benefit Kamba and Wiper.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Nefertiti on May 19, 2022, 07:29:39 PM
Mdvd is equally dead. If you don't see any problem with his leadership why the concern with Kalonzo?

Quote from: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 07:27:12 PM
That is PR - he is dead. Which is great because he is one of most annoying leaders we have. Kenya Kwanza will usher fresh blood.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 07:41:15 PM
MaDVD has played his 4% better than Kalonzo 8% - and because I run tribal maths - maDVD has made the right call.
Quote from: Robina on May 19, 2022, 07:29:39 PM
Mdvd is equally dead. If you don't see any problem with his leadership why the concern with Kalonzo?
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Pajero on May 19, 2022, 07:50:21 PM
Ruto is still doing 30s % in western,Madvd has not helped much
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 07:51:49 PM
Western is hard to sample - too many sub-tribes. MaDVD support is restricted to Maragoli. Weta influence ends with Bukusu.
Quote from: Pajero on May 19, 2022, 07:50:21 PM
Ruto is still doing 30s % in western,Madvd has not helped much
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: patel on May 19, 2022, 10:18:26 PM
Kalonzo accepted 3 billion from Uhuru, Gideon and Raila. I hope he will share the loot with his tribesmen.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 10:43:27 PM
Yeap Gideon went to see him yesterday and he seem to have accepted.
I guess he need to summon wiper and explain his u-turn again
But they are now used to it :)

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on May 19, 2022, 11:18:56 PM
He cannot run on his own or join another coalition. Mutua has publicly stated that Azimio's plan from the get go was to be secretive and ensure Kalonzo, and others are tied to Azimio until 6 months after election. That is what Kenya kwanza will spread in Kambaland until election night. Kalonzo will try to say otherwise but regular folks are smart and will trust Mutua, Muthama, Mueke, and other Kamba leaders spreading the gospel. Either way, Ruto will get his 20-30% thus denying Raila the usual 97% Kamba votes. Kalonzo simply has been widened, impregnated, and will be discarded after elections. He has no say at the moment because all his leverages are gone! Mtu wa katikatia kisha pasuka!
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 11:24:18 PM
Yes it going to be hard to clean up the mess...even by flip-flopping standards he has exceeded them.
He has made kambas look very bad.
Ruto should try to go for even 40 percent of Ukambani - he already has good game in Machakos.
Kenya Kwanza should concentrate on Makueni.  Kitui maybe tough except through churches.
Mueke is Nairobi/US diaspora dude..not village smart. Ngilu is very good in villages and women.
They should give Muthama something to add to Mutua's deal that would match the fake deal he is getting from Azimio.

But first let them unleash their deal - 1,500kms of roads - Kenya Kwanza should double it.
20 percent - they should offer Muthama-Mutua similar deal - with caveat of 40 percent - so Mt kenya knows it's just for the laughs :)

After election - Ruto should divide the pie based on contribution.

Quote from: RV Heavy Hitter! on May 19, 2022, 11:18:56 PM
He cannot run on his own or join another coalition. Mutua has publicly stated that Azimio's plan from the get go was to be secretive and ensure Kalonzo, and others are tied to Azimio until 6 months after election. That is what Kenya kwanza will spread in Kambaland until election night. Kalonzo will try to say otherwise but regular folks are smart and will trust Mutua, Muthama, Mueke, and other Kamba leaders spreading the gospel. Either way, Ruto will get his 20-30% thus denying Raila the usual 97% Kamba votes. Kalonzo simply has been widened, impregnated, and will be discarded after elections. He has no say at the moment because all his leverages are gone! Mtu wa katikatia kisha pasuka!
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Kadudu on May 20, 2022, 09:41:06 AM
Klaonzo sharing loot! You are dreaming. Kalonzo is known to be meaner than Kibaki in his good days.

Quote from: patel on May 19, 2022, 10:18:26 PM
Kalonzo accepted 3 billion from Uhuru, Gideon and Raila. I hope he will share the loot with his tribesmen.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 20, 2022, 07:13:57 PM
Ni kama Kalonzo amekataa tena.

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: Nefertiti on May 20, 2022, 07:25:20 PM
By the way have Chap Chap and PAA legally quit Azimio? I thought registrar said it not possible.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 20, 2022, 07:27:56 PM
PAA has court order. Chap Chap nope. There is no legality of those things. Kalongolongo tu.
Quote from: Robina on May 20, 2022, 07:25:20 PM
By the way have Chap Chap and PAA legally quit Azimio? I thought registrar said it not possible.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: audacityofhope on May 20, 2022, 07:29:31 PM
"Mademoni" rears its head 10 years later ....
Quote from: RV Pundit on May 19, 2022, 06:05:54 PM
Rumours are he accepted Uhuru and Gideon deal yesterday.
He is going to blame Wambua and Maanzo - and say after deep reflection - he has decided to rejoin Azimio
Uncondtionally

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 20, 2022, 10:40:48 PM
Wanapigana twitter making it hard for Kalonzo to snap out of his reflection
Look like Wiper Candidate are listening to the ground....
They may tell Kalonzo akule pesa ya Gideon na Uhuru...atumie for his own campaign.
Wiper candidates want to ride Kalonzo.

Ruto should put pressure on them by campaigning hard in Ukambani the next few days - go village to village...

Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on May 21, 2022, 05:17:57 AM
Naskia Kalonzo amezima simu; Kuzimia in panic mode again!
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 07:57:19 AM
Kalonzo biggest problem - he is a social climber - he really want to appear near cool billionaires of Uhuru and Gideon - but they are selling him to Raila. Raila has very low opinion of Kalonzo and can barely hide his disdain.

Now he is stuck - rejoin Azimio or run alone or join Ruto.

If I was him first I would collect money from Azimio - they surely owe him :) - use it to run for alone - and enter secret deal with both sides - so win or lose - he will be in gov.

It likely we will have run-off  sparked by legal challenge if supreme court is led by idiots by Martha & Njoki. That will give him opportunity to make a serious deal where his premium will be sky roof.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 08:37:12 AM
I dont think legally anybody can convince IEBC to block kalonzo unless they have a court order
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Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 06:59:53 PM
Look like he is about to go back to Azimio
Now reconcilling his troops with Azimio

If blunder a person - it appears when you want to exit politics - you do many wrongs things in succession

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-21-kalonzo-meets-with-railas-spokesperson-makau-mutua/
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
Or he is just posting old pictures :) - look like when Kalonzo stopped by his kitui villa. This must the height of desperation.
Title: Re: Kalonzo to rejoin Azimio after reflecting
Post by: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 07:03:54 PM
Trust The Star to manufacture news from Twitter :)
Quote from: RV Pundit on May 21, 2022, 06:59:53 PM
Look like he is about to go back to Azimio
Now reconcilling his troops with Azimio

If blunder a person - it appears when you want to exit politics - you do many wrongs things in succession

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-21-kalonzo-meets-with-railas-spokesperson-makau-mutua/