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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Githunguri on May 15, 2022, 02:11:15 PM
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Meru and tharaka are very angry..munya should sell kikuyu colonisation theory in Meru and tharaka
Very good progress
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https://fb.watch/d0BATfGZYb/
I didn't know it will be this heated Merus angry soo angry it all boils down to jana in Nyeri,as of now its looking bad for Ruto really bad....lets wait and see by Friday I will call it,there are small demonstrations everywhere i hear its spontaneous... This is how Merus react when greatly offended
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Too late. The decision has been made. Threats ni ya jana.
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Whatevefr happened to mizito has our back :D
utalijua jiji
Kithure was perfect candidate, calm mien and all.
No you have two Kalenjins left....it is gonna be unpalatable for Kenyans.
Best thing to happen to Azimio.
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Im preety sure if Kindiki right now decides to run on a different party from UDA in Tharaka Nithi he is bound to lose.
Kindiki is not a politician he happened to be because of Ruto.
These so called negotiations were just a smokescreen . To show Ruto was democratic in chosing his running mate.
Gachagua was chosen long time ago. Once Kiunjuri bolted and all the monies remained with Gachagua.
Thosw billions Govt is after were Kiunjuris DP campaign money. Kindiki how much billions is he ready to spend on campaign trail ?
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I'm very surprised. Why did Ruto do this when most Kyuks are behind him? Kindiki was perfect: steal Munya formula from Azimio and lock Meru 100%. Kindiki is such a gentleman. No matusi, no corruption, and very well educated plus provides immunity from 'kabila mbili' narrative while still honoring Ruto's deal with Mt. Kenya.
Mimi nashuku sana . . . There must be something that we don't know behind this choice. Maybe it's a trick to force a certain choice in Azimio before they pull a switcheroo and announce Kindiki tomorrow. It just doesn't make sense to pick Rigathe over Kindiki. Kama ni loyalty, Kindiki has also been by Ruto's side since Uhuruto fallout. Hope Azimio are watchful and choose wisely.
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Yes I also think Ruto was just trying to make Mt kenya leaders feel they are part of the decision making.
The decision was made few years ago...knowing Ruto..if he made personal deal with Gachagua he would stick to it.
Kindiki is going to be AG - he will cry for few days - but he was already failing in his governorship bid.
He was third behind governor and prof njoka - in the opinion poll.
Im preety sure if Kindiki right now decides to run on a different party from UDA in Tharaka Nithi he is bound to lose.
Kindiki is not a politician he happened to be because of Ruto.
These so called negotiations were just a smokescreen . To show Ruto was democratic in chosing his running mate.
Gachagua was chosen long time ago. Once Kiunjuri bolted and all the monies remained with Gachagua.
Thosw billions Govt is after were Kiunjuris DP campaign money. Kindiki how much billions is he ready to spend on campaign trail ?
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You do classroom theoritical politics.
Real politik ni kazi ingine.
Real politics people look at real numbers.
And Kikuyus have NUMBERS.
Next you look at ECONOMIC Power...Kikuyus control the economy with Asians.
That is why even for Moi...he always appointed a Kikuyu VP or someone with some kikuyu roots.
Kikiyus will control kenya for sometime.
Gachagua ticked real numbers and money box.
You guys in Azimio - I hope you dont do theories - and dump Kalonzo.
This is not a beauty contest
Theories is to say Martha will bring women vote or will be good in anti-reformist image.
Reality - KENYANS DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT CORRUPTION. Dont consume your own propaganda.
If they did Martha Karua would not have come last - after Abduda Dida and Peter Kenneth
Martha got 43,000 - worse than anyone I know :) :)
Halafu in same election - Kenya elected two people in trial for WORSE HUMAN CRIMES.
WAZUNGU gave up on Kenya - DPORK AND PORK on trial for crimes equal to genocide.
TRY TO UNDERSTAND KENYA POLITICS like I have - and the value system (or lack of it)
I'm very surprised. Why did Ruto do this when most Kyuks are behind him? Kindiki was perfect: steal Munya formula from Azimio and lock Meru 100%. Kindiki is such a gentleman. No matusi, no corruption, and very well educated plus provides immunity from 'kabila mbili' narrative while still honoring Ruto's deal with Mt. Kenya.
Mimi nashuku sana . . . There must be something that we don't know behind this choice. Maybe it's a trick to force a certain choice in Azimio before they pull a switcheroo and announce Kindiki tomorrow. It just doesn't make sense to pick Rigathe over Kindiki. Kama ni loyalty, Kindiki has also been by Ruto's side since Uhuruto fallout. Hope Azimio are watchful and choose wisely.
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I'm very surprised. Why did Ruto do this when most Kyuks are behind him? Kindiki was perfect: steal Munya formula from Azimio and lock Meru 100%. Kindiki is such a gentleman. No matusi, no corruption, and very well educated plus provides immunity from 'kabila mbili' narrative while still honoring Ruto's deal with Mt. Kenya.
Mimi nashuku sana . . . There must be something that we don't know behind this choice. Maybe it's a trick to force a certain choice in Azimio before they pull a switcheroo and announce Kindiki tomorrow. It just doesn't make sense to pick Rigathe over Kindiki. Kama ni loyalty, Kindiki has also been by Ruto's side since Uhuruto fallout. Hope Azimio are watchful and choose wisely.
Please do not bring utoto into politics. Do you want Nyeri to burn? Did you not view those demos in Nyeri yesterday, that probably forced Ruto's hand? No Rigati No Ruto chants. Even on this wall some people - one actually - are here 24/7 very very emotionally invested.
Someone post that Nyeri video for @Dear Baby. She has just landed in the country.
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William had chosen Kindiki but mount Kenya leaders told him kikuyus are tribalist number one and only votes their own. If Raila picks Karua, almost 50% of Gema would shift. Now that Ruto has picked real Kikuyu, he is assured 70-80% Kikuyu votes. Karua apparently is not a Kikuyu that is why he never gets Kikuyu votes like that according to kina Kimani, ndindi, Gachagua, Bishop wanjiru, Kabogo, Kuria, and even Uhuru. Uhuru hand too was there. Kikuyu really overpowered Ruto in the decision but I tend to agree. Real Kimuyu have been pro Ruto since day one. Others came lately. Meru and Tharakas can vote Azimio but with mainstream Gema inside Ruto will win Kamatusa, Coast, Somali, Kikuyus and Kambas if Raila chooses Karua.
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William had chosen Kindiki but mount Kenya leaders told him kikuyus are tribalist number one and only votes their own. If Raila picks Karua, almost 50% of Gema would shift. Now that Ruto has picked real Kikuyu, he is assured 70-80% Kikuyu votes. Karua apparently is not a Kikuyu that is why he never gets Kikuyu votes like that according to kina Kimani, ndindi, Gachagua, Bishop wanjiru, Kabogo, Kuria, and even Uhuru. Uhuru hand too was there. Kikuyu really overpowered Ruto in the decision but I tend to agree. Real Kimuyu have been pro Ruto since day one. Others came lately. Meru and Tharakas can vote Azimio but with mainstream Gema inside Ruto will win Kamatusa, Coast, Somali, Kikuyus and Kambas if Raila chooses Karua.
It is not "if", it is Martha Karua, you Mr. "Ruto-chose-his-DP-two-months-ago".
Azimio will not only be invested in central but Karua also brings excitement in the woman vote countrywide.
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5 walevis making noise. Percentage wise Merus will vote for Ruto better than they voted for Uhuru in 2017.
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ODM did actually win not one BUT two parliamentary seat in Meru. Azimio says thank you for this gift for the decision UDA just made.
Aburi, one of the two ODM MPs in Meru County (the other being Igembe Central’s Kubai Kiringo) (https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/city-news/2000190550/i-thought-mpuru-aburi-was-a-luo-says-senator-kiraitu?amp=1)
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Gachagua is the real deal my friend. He is the next kikuyu point person.
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Nope this is not 2013. Karua or even Ruto against Prince Uhuru was no-brainer. But now it choice between Kalenjin & Luo ALIENS - so wacha fitina. Azimio is picking Karua to square with Gachagua. Exect neck-to-neck fire-spitting as both are orators and demagogues. Both are fighters.
Gachagua advantage - money. Which mean nothing as Azimio is equally well oiled.
Karua advantage - less "Kikuyu roots" persona, integrity, gender.
You do classroom theoritical politics.
Real politik ni kazi ingine.
Real politics people look at real numbers.
And Kikuyus have NUMBERS.
Next you look at ECONOMIC Power...Kikuyus control the economy with Asians.
That is why even for Moi...he always appointed a Kikuyu VP or someone with some kikuyu roots.
Kikiyus will control kenya for sometime.
Gachagua ticked real numbers and money box.
You guys in Azimio - I hope you dont do theories - and dump Kalonzo.
This is not a beauty contest
Theories is to say Martha will bring women vote or will be good in anti-reformist image.
Reality - KENYANS DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT CORRUPTION. Dont consume your own propaganda.
If they did Martha Karua would not have come last - after Abduda Dida and Peter Kenneth
Martha got 43,000 - worse than anyone I know :) :)
Halafu in same election - Kenya elected two people in trial for WORSE HUMAN CRIMES.
WAZUNGU gave up on Kenya - DPORK AND PORK on trial for crimes equal to genocide.
TRY TO UNDERSTAND KENYA POLITICS like I have - and the value system (or lack of it)
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Gachagua is the real deal my friend. He is the next kikuyu point person.
So now I hope you have temporarily stopped letting piss running down your mhindi legs.
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First solve Kalonzo problem.
Before I give Martha 30 percent of GEMA - for the fun of it.
Without Kalonzo remaining in Azimio
Then we are wasting time with theories.
With Kalonzo - you need 50-50 on GEMA to win.
Without Kalonzo - you need 80 percent of GEMA to win.
Nope this is not 2013. Karua or even Ruto against Prince Uhuru was no-brainer. But now it choice between Kalenjin & Luo ALIENS - so wacha fitina. Azimio is picking Karua to square with Gachagua. Exect neck-to-neck fire-spitting as both are orators and demagogues. Both are fighters.
Gachagua advantage - money. Which mean nothing as Azimio is equally well oiled.
Karua advantage - less "Kikuyu roots" persona, integrity, gender.
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Merus were already split before this Kindiki maneno. Pundit's own MOAS say 55-45 8)
It was a mistake to leak all those stories about Kindiki is the man - cause Merus are very emotional folks.
Kiraitu must be very happy.. he might actually re-endorse Raila now.
5 walevis making noise. Percentage wise Merus will vote for Ruto better than they voted for Uhuru in 2017.
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Gachagua is the real deal my friend. He is the next kikuyu point person.
So now I hope you have temporarily stopped letting piss running down your mhindi legs.
I see you are in full matusi mode even patel is no match
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When Munya loses DPORK too - it will be back to default. It looking like 70-30 now. Kiraitu and Munya who I thought will campaign for Raila simply have given up. So those figures need urgent revision in the coming update.
Embu has gone almost 90 percent to Ruto...with governor joining too.
Merus were already split before this Kindiki maneno. Pundit's own MOAS say 55-45 8)
It was a mistake to leak all those stories about Kindiki is the man - cause Merus are very emotional folks.
Kiraitu must be very happy.. he might actually re-endorse Raila now.
5 walevis making noise. Percentage wise Merus will vote for Ruto better than they voted for Uhuru in 2017.
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Karua is in - don't bet so hard on Gema. Ruto has long been there with Kiunjuri, Kuria, Wahome, Waiguru - sijui Ndindi even Githeri Man was dangled at some point. Meantime Raila was running helter skelter with OKA threatening 3rd horse. Now with firm tickets - expect the lead to be dicy. What is the real reason Gema should trust Ruto better than Raila?
My bet is Gema split will even out.
Kalonzo is going nowhere... the excess noise from Maanzos is to drive tough bargain. He is succeeding very well - you praised him yourself for 2002 & 2007 such hard-knock tactics made him Kamba king (2002) and VP (2007).
Now first Raila & Uhuru had to swallow hard and accept rebrand to Azimio-OKA. Next Ukambani was zoned for Wiper and small boy Mutua ran to Ruto. Now what is going on is 3-leg deal dots & crosses - PM & CS slots bla bla - Paul Mwangi and Njee Muturi are working on it to be unveiled tomorrow.
Basically Kalonzo is outdoing himself: the new message will be elect only Wiper MPs to hold Raila accountable and ensure smooth sailing as PM. Muthama will be selling what there I don't know - he will need to focus on beating Wavinya and the ex-wife Kavindu :)
First solve Kalonzo problem.
Before I give Martha 30 percent of GEMA - for the fun of it.
Without Kalonzo remaining in Azimio
Then we are wasting time with theories.
With Kalonzo - you need 50-50 on GEMA to win.
Without Kalonzo - you need 80 percent of GEMA to win.
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24hours - and we meet for review. Kalonzo and Gideon Moi are not in Nairobi rally. You have critical 24hours to stop Kalonzo from running. Otherwise wish-washy maths ni raisi kujua. We have opinion polls from GEMA very soon.
Karua is in - don't bet so hard on Gema. Ruto has long been there with Kiunjuri, Kuria, Wahome, Waiguru - sijui Ndindi even Githeri Man was dangled at some point. Meantime Raila was running helter skelter with OKA threatening 3rd horse. Now with firm tickets - expect the lead to be dicy. What is the real reason Gema should trust Ruto better than Raila?
My bet is Gema split will even out.
Kalonzo is going nowhere... the excess noise from Maanzos is to tough bargain. He is succeeding very well - you praised him yourself for 2002 & 2007 such hard-knock tactics made him Kamba king (2002) and VP (2007.
Now first Raila & Uhuru had to swallow hard and accept rebrand to Azimio-OKA. Next Ukambani was zoned for Wiper and small boy Mutua ran to Ruto. Now what is going on is 3-leg deal dots & crosses - PM & CS slots bla bla - Paul Mwangi and Njee Muturi are working on it to be unveiled tomorrow.
Basically Kalonzo is outdoing himself: the new message will be elect only Wiper MPs to hold Raila accountable and ensure smooth sailing as PM. Muthama will be seeling what there I don't know - he will need to focus on beating Wavinya and the ex-wife Kavindu :)
First solve Kalonzo problem.
Before I give Martha 30 percent of GEMA - for the fun of it.
Without Kalonzo remaining in Azimio
Then we are wasting time with theories.
With Kalonzo - you need 50-50 on GEMA to win.
Without Kalonzo - you need 80 percent of GEMA to win.
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So what is your prediction - Kalonzo-Gideon ticket? Giddy we can give you free - I doubt even Ruto would accept him. His few Tugen will stil vote Ruto.
Kalonzo knows he can only run as independent - and he would have to resign from Wiper first. He is not so stupid - to let the red-line pushed to 11th hour.
24hours - and we meet for review. Kalonzo and Gideon Moi are not in Nairobi rally. You have critical 24hours to stop Kalonzo from running. Otherwise wish-washy maths ni raisi kujua. We have opinion polls from GEMA very soon.
With Kalonzo - you need 50-50 on GEMA to win.
Without Kalonzo - you need 80 percent of GEMA to win.
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Nothing stops Chebukati from receiving wiper papers.
There is no law that say that.
Law only disallow a party from belonging to two coalition parties.
Nothing even stop wiper from joining Kenya Kwanza
As you know Wiper is presenting other candidates.
Azimio-Oka will present candidates.
Yes there is some deal that Raila is Azimio candidate
But Wiper already complained that deal had been changed.
If Azimio go to Chebukati to block Kalonzo - Chebukati will ask them to go to court and political dispute tribunal
In meantime Kalonzo will be approved.
In short Chebukati is independent of Political Registar - who deal with registration and party disputes.
All Chebukati want will be Wiper Certificate or Azimio Certificates.
NOt MOUS.
Unless you have SUPREME court order to stop Kalonzo - Chebukati will receive Wiper papers and doesnt know or need to know MOUS.
You should have seen that PAA and MCC are in Kenya Kwanza.
Dispute - you take first to political parties dispute tribunal - then court - which normally dont want to solve political disputes.
So you go back and solve it politically in rallies :)
So what is your prediction - Kalonzo-Gideon ticket? Giddy we can give you free - I doubt even Ruto would accept him. His few Tugen will stil vote Ruto.
Kalonzo knows he can only run as independent - and he would have to resign from Wiper first. He is not so stupid - to let the red-line pushed to 11th hour.
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Kindiki to tell us if he will go or remain
I dont see him going anywhere
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Tomorrow high priest make Kindiki running mate and Pundit still say he predicted it two years ago. ;)
Waiting for runningmate debate Karua will tear down Gachagua like mad tigress.
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Gachagua can hold his own. However, in scheme of things I don't think debates mean anything in kenya because if they did Miguna would be sitting pretty as Nairobi governor today.
Tomorrow high priest make Kindiki running mate and Pundit still say he predicted it two years ago. ;)
Waiting for runningmate debate Karua will tear down Gachagua like mad tigress.
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I have seen Gachagua in TV interviews; he is very good; I saw him shut down Murathe.
Tomorrow high priest make Kindiki running mate and Pundit still say he predicted it two years ago. ;)
Waiting for runningmate debate Karua will tear down Gachagua like mad tigress.
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Kindiki cannt go anywhere...he need to start mobilizing. Relocate from Nairobi to Tharaka Nithi
Kindiki to tell us if he will go or remain
I dont see him going anywhere
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Amended political parties Act. This was signed into law. I have no idea where you think the Act is of no consequence. Constitutional court will decide if they have time, which isn't there.
Nothing stops Chebukati from receiving wiper papers.
There is no law that say that.
Law only disallow a party from belonging to two coalition parties.
Nothing even stop wiper from joining Kenya Kwanza
As you know Wiper is presenting other candidates.
Azimio-Oka will present candidates.
Yes there is some deal that Raila is Azimio candidate
But Wiper already complained that deal had been changed.
If Azimio go to Chebukati to block Kalonzo - Chebukati will ask them to go to court and political dispute tribunal
In meantime Kalonzo will be approved.
In short Chebukati is independent of Political Registar - who deal with registration and party disputes.
All Chebukati want will be Wiper Certificate or Azimio Certificates.
NOt MOUS.
Unless you have SUPREME court order to stop Kalonzo - Chebukati will receive Wiper papers and doesnt know or need to know MOUS.
You should have seen that PAA and MCC are in Kenya Kwanza.
Dispute - you take first to political parties dispute tribunal - then court - which normally dont want to solve political disputes.
So you go back and solve it politically in rallies :)
So what is your prediction - Kalonzo-Gideon ticket? Giddy we can give you free - I doubt even Ruto would accept him. His few Tugen will stil vote Ruto.
Kalonzo knows he can only run as independent - and he would have to resign from Wiper first. He is not so stupid - to let the red-line pushed to 11th hour.
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Why hasnt it stopped Mutua and Kingi from joining Kenya Kwanza
Prepare for normal divorce proceedings
In meantime your ex-wife will fu.ck anyone she wants
And you cant tell the court to stop your wife from fuc.king around
Even if official divorce happens in six months - nothing stop them moving on.
Chebukati doesnt need a marriage certificate - for you to sleep in his hotel
So tough lucks - rushing there - with marriage certificate.
The hotel is open for anyone. Mambo yenu kando
Amended political parties Act. This was signed into law. I have no idea where you think the Act is of no consequence. Constitutional court will decide if they have time, which isn't there.