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Title: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 12:29:52 AM
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Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 12:31:23 AM
In short Ruto wins by 60 percent.Rarua or Martharao trail with 40 percent
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 01:06:03 AM
Meanwhile this is now confirmed.
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Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 05:44:54 AM
Ruto meanwhile according to Moses kuria - Ruto has settled on mbeere  speaker Justin Moturi
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Githunguri on May 02, 2022, 06:02:50 AM
Muturi will cost him votes doesnt appeal to GEMA
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 06:20:28 AM
Ruto is looking for GEMA candidate who can appeal to Non-GEMA. His biggest threat is rest of tribes seeing his ticket as Kikuyu-Kalenjin pingpong. Most people who support Raila - dont see any more merit in old sleeping man - but many just dont want the kikuyu-kalenjin hegemony going on.

Therefore Muturi and Kindiki look very good especially if Raila sobers up and pick Kalonzo. If he picks Karua - Ruto can pick anyone and win by huge margin - because Kamba fallout will be epic.

Kindiki is tharaka - and Muturi a mbeere- both are small tribes in GEMA who can be marketed almost as Non-GEMA while GEMA still feel it's part of it.

Muturi aces Kindiki when it comes to experience - he is already the number 3 in kenya as the NA Speaker.

Muturi will cost him votes doesnt appeal to GEMA
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 02, 2022, 06:40:20 AM
This is theory , similar to 2013 Theory that another Kikuyu cannot be elected as President.
Ruto will chose a Kikuyu. Muturi is a non factor last elected to parliament in 2002 and prior to that in a by election.
He lost 2013 election and by virtue of being a bossom friend of Uhuru was given speaker job.

Ruto is looking for GEMA candidate who can appeal to Non-GEMA. His biggest threat is rest of tribes seeing his ticket as Kikuyu-Kalenjin pingpong. Most people who support Raila - dont see any more merit in old sleeping man - but many just dont want the kikuyu-kalenjin hegemony going on.

Therefore Muturi and Kindiki look very good especially if Raila sobers up and pick Kalonzo. If he picks Karua - Ruto can pick anyone and win by huge margin - because Kamba fallout will be epic.

Kindiki is tharaka - and Muturi a mbeere- both are small tribes in GEMA who can be marketed almost as Non-GEMA while GEMA still feel it's part of it.

Muturi aces Kindiki when it comes to experience - he is already the number 3 in kenya as the NA Speaker.

Muturi will cost him votes doesnt appeal to GEMA
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 06:45:26 AM
At least you've climbed down from kiambu kikuyu :)
If Kikuyus had been as steadfast - with 90 percent support and turnout - Ruto wont be looking elsewhere.
The final list is clear Gachagua, Muturi, Kindiki and Ndidi Nyoro.
I dont know who Ruto will pick - but I'd take Moses Kuria seriously that Justin Muturi is the guy.
And he fits the bill for DPORK (not pork)- he is Mt kenya (kikuyu will be hard pressed to undo the GEMA alliance) - he is 10yrs speaker
And is really 3rd in line - if both Uhuru and Ruto were locked in a room - and they kill each other like is likely - Muturi become PORK.

Anyway I believe if Raila pick Martha - Ruto will also pick a Kikuyu.
If he picks Kalonzo - he will pick an easterner too.

Muturi and Uhuru - bring in a secret deal angle btw Ruto and Kenyattas - I dont buy this fallout 100 percent - part of me feel it's usual keep your enemies closer and your friends away.

And if I was Raila i would not listen to Uhuru - because he could be his biggest enemy :) - and this selection of Karua is part of finishing him. Uhuru knows Karua is an expired product in mt kenya politics, knows kamba nation will revolt and yet he is forcing Raila to pick her - meanwhile his friend or proxy or poodle - muturi - come from nowhere and overtake Ruto men...iko kitu.

This is theory , similar to 2013 Theory that another Kikuyu cannot be elected as President.
Ruto will chose a Kikuyu. Muturi is a non factor last elected to parliament in 2002 and prior to that in a by election.
He lost 2013 election and by virtue of being a bossom friend of Uhuru was given speaker job.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on May 02, 2022, 08:22:07 AM
Ruto is looking for GEMA candidate who can appeal to Non-GEMA. His biggest threat is rest of tribes seeing his ticket as Kikuyu-Kalenjin pingpong. Most people who support Raila - dont see any more merit in old sleeping man - but many just dont want the kikuyu-kalenjin hegemony going on.

Therefore Muturi and Kindiki look very good especially if Raila sobers up and pick Kalonzo. If he picks Karua - Ruto can pick anyone and win by huge margin - because Kamba fallout will be epic.

Kindiki is tharaka - and Muturi a mbeere- both are small tribes in GEMA who can be marketed almost as Non-GEMA while GEMA still feel it's part of it.

Muturi aces Kindiki when it comes to experience - he is already the number 3 in kenya as the NA Speaker.

Muturi will cost him votes doesn't appeal to GEMA
I don't think it will be Muturi. Muturi came very late to the table and not with conviction. He only came because Uhuru and Assminyoo had vanquished him. Kindiki looks like a better option if GEMA periphery is the game being played. He has been loyal to UDA since the inception, and to DP for almost a decade. I agree with Kalonzo not getting deputy, DP can even pick Micah Maritim or his brother Selina and win. My hunch is he will pick a mainstream okuyu like Ndindi or Kimani because Raila will also do the same. Okuyu is just too powerful to be ignored!
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Nefertiti on May 02, 2022, 08:34:34 AM
when is Ruto unveiling senior MCA Ndindi.. or as usual waiting to counter Raila.

Face it: if it Karua - expect Waiguru or Wahome. If it PK - expect Ndindi. If it Munya - expect Kindiki or Muturi.

That how desperate Ruto remain for Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 02, 2022, 08:54:10 AM
RV , I do believe you are trying to measure all outcomes, However Real politics is different . Ruto as we speak will score good numbers in all Mt Kenya counties his lowest will be Kiambu ,Kiambu have some superiority complex which exibited itself in 1997,2002 and 2007 elections also its the County with the largest number of voters. Just like in 2013 when Ruto climbed down due to realpolitics that you require GEMA to win elections ,He needs to court that county and if he really wants to improve his numbers there he might need to opt getting a Kiambu person as running mate. The rest of Mt Kenya are solidly behind him simply because of Raila hate ,he shiuld focus his energy on Kiambu. The way Ive seen Ruto operating before he will make a realistic decision away from theories.( Read 2013 elections when he decided against all odds to join and deputize Uhuru when some of his advisors were asking him ti join Raila , Run alone or acomodate Kalonzo in their line up.


At least you've climbed down from kiambu kikuyu :)
If Kikuyus had been as steadfast - with 90 percent support and turnout - Ruto wont be looking elsewhere.
The final list is clear Gachagua, Muturi, Kindiki and Ndidi Nyoro.
I dont know who Ruto will pick - but I'd take Moses Kuria seriously that Justin Muturi is the guy.
And he fits the bill for DPORK (not pork)- he is Mt kenya (kikuyu will be hard pressed to undo the GEMA alliance) - he is 10yrs speaker
And is really 3rd in line - if both Uhuru and Ruto were locked in a room - and they kill each other like is likely - Muturi become PORK.

Anyway I believe if Raila pick Martha - Ruto will also pick a Kikuyu.
If he picks Kalonzo - he will pick an easterner too.

Muturi and Uhuru - bring in a secret deal angle btw Ruto and Kenyattas - I dont buy this fallout 100 percent - part of me feel it's usual keep your enemies closer and your friends away.

And if I was Raila i would not listen to Uhuru - because he could be his biggest enemy :) - and this selection of Karua is part of finishing him. Uhuru knows Karua is an expired product in mt kenya politics, knows kamba nation will revolt and yet he is forcing Raila to pick her - meanwhile his friend or proxy or poodle - muturi - come from nowhere and overtake Ruto men...iko kitu.

This is theory , similar to 2013 Theory that another Kikuyu cannot be elected as President.
Ruto will chose a Kikuyu. Muturi is a non factor last elected to parliament in 2002 and prior to that in a by election.
He lost 2013 election and by virtue of being a bossom friend of Uhuru was given speaker job.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 02, 2022, 08:56:35 AM
Lots of theory. Nowonder you always get it wrong.


when is Ruto unveiling senior MCA Ndindi.. or as usual waiting to counter Raila.

Face it: if it Karua - expect Waiguru or Wahome. If it PK - expect Ndindi. If it Munya - expect Kindiki or Muturi.

That how desperate Ruto remain for Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: audacityofhope on May 02, 2022, 10:48:44 AM
Lots of theory. Nowonder you always get it wrong.


when is Ruto unveiling senior MCA Ndindi.. or as usual waiting to counter Raila.

Face it: if it Karua - expect Waiguru or Wahome. If it PK - expect Ndindi. If it Munya - expect Kindiki or Muturi.

That how desperate Ruto remain for Mt Kenya.
Ukweli tupu! Azimio unveiled a contestant plucked out of Equity bank - Igathe, Copycat Luto goes to Absa to get its COO Jim Muchiri to counter as running mate for Sakaja. Poor Sakaja .....

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"I don't really know this Njoroge man but boss akisema ni yeye running mate basi ni hivo. I accept"
-Johnson Sakaja.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 10:55:25 AM
Every election has it's dynamic.

Ruto knew that Uhuru as candidate was going to bring A game in GEMA - get 28-30 percent - he bring A game in Kalenjin 14-15  and they only need 5-10 percent to win from rest of the country.

Ruto is one who initiated Uhuru quest for power - otherwise Saitoti was far ahead - and for Ruto it was just dusting MOI 2002 plan that had aborted when Raila had split Kikuyu by supporting Kibaki.

Now even if you choose from Kiambu - Uhuru will still have his influence there - and in entire GEMA - at best Ruto can hope for a B game - but need to plan for C game there. In both voter preferences and turnout.

Therefore for Ruto - GEMA at best will bring him 20% percent. His Kalenjin maybe 15 percent - that takes him to 35 percent.

So it's important for him to court Non-GEMA. And therefore he has to be sensitive and run a campaign that appease both GEMA and Non-GEMA.

Now quickest way to make Non-GEMA voter disappear is to appoint yet another Kikuyu - but to appoint from Kiambu - would be stupidity of highest order.

Therefore I believe for Ruto he has to be extremely careful with another Kikuyu DPORK.
The propaganda that was unleashed in Mululu by Uhuru - saw UDA lose in Matungu, Kabuchai and Machakos.
It's very lethal propaganda that has been the engine of Raila since 2007
It's very lethal propaganda that sustained Moi in 1990s - anti-Kikuyu propaganda now add Kalenjin - and you a very toxic mix.
That propaganda can only be overturned if GEMA bring their A game with selection of DPORK
All evidence suggest they wont - we can at best expect a B game - but again plan for C game.

Yes GEMA C game is still better than anybody A game - so DPORK must be GeMA.

Therefore for Ruto - I'd go for kikuyu if Raila choose a Kikuyu - he wont be able to run anti-kikuyu propaganda or anti-two tribes have dominated us propaganda.
If he chooses Kalonzo - I WONT pick a Kikuyu - a GEMA like Kindiki or Muturi works for.

And to play safe - I would pick Kindiki or Muturi. To play risky - I would pick Ndidi to excite Kikuyus - but rest of country will see that PORK is gone now until 2037 - because Ndidi will be playing for LONG TERM. They wont like it.

Kindiki many GEMA see as unable to stand up to Ruto - more a Ruto poodle - so they may not like it.
Many want Gachagua because he is very strong willed and can protect GEMA interest

So Muturi seems to fit the bill - GEMA who is NON-GEMA and who can face Ruto as an "equal".

I'd therefore rank Muturi and Gachagua high - wild cards remaind Ndidi and Kindiki


RV , I do believe you are trying to measure all outcomes, However Real politics is different . Ruto as we speak will score good numbers in all Mt Kenya counties his lowest will be Kiambu ,Kiambu have some superiority complex which exibited itself in 1997,2002 and 2007 elections also its the County with the largest number of voters. Just like in 2013 when Ruto climbed down due to realpolitics that you require GEMA to win elections ,He needs to court that county and if he really wants to improve his numbers there he might need to opt getting a Kiambu person as running mate. The rest of Mt Kenya are solidly behind him simply because of Raila hate ,he shiuld focus his energy on Kiambu. The way Ive seen Ruto operating before he will make a realistic decision away from theories.( Read 2013 elections when he decided against all odds to join and deputize Uhuru when some of his advisors were asking him ti join Raila , Run alone or acomodate Kalonzo in their line up.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 11:02:05 AM
Gender is non issues in kenya. Raila is being a moron to select Martha hoping to get women vote. With Martha and PK having last expired in GEMA politics in 15yrs ago - cant even win governorship - like RV HH says - Ruto can run without DPORK or pick anybody from the streets - and win.

Azimio need to worry about Kambas - and Kalonzo. That is their BIGGeST ProbLEM.

I dont see how Kambas and Kalonzo will play along the Kikuyu DPORK in AZIMIO.

We will declare Ruto elected the day you appoint PK or Martha.

Munya is out - didnt resign - cannot run.

when is Ruto unveiling senior MCA Ndindi.. or as usual waiting to counter Raila.

Face it: if it Karua - expect Waiguru or Wahome. If it PK - expect Ndindi. If it Munya - expect Kindiki or Muturi.

That how desperate Ruto remain for Mt Kenya.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 02, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
When you see Pundit million threads on Karua you know something is cooking. You see Pundit calling for Kaloi to save RAO numbers you know Kaloi is worth only one vote. Worrier quaking in their boots when Karua dawa yake is mentioned.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 11:45:20 AM
I am dispassionate pundit. There are things we have warned would make Ruto pork. One was Raila running - if Raila had toshad someone else Ruto would be struggling - but we wanted him to run because he has big problem in GEMA. That big problem cannot be solved by putting DPORK in Mt kenya.

Anyway the moment PK or Martha are picked - Kambas bolt out - I expect Uhuru to start the handover process - to the president elect Ruto.

Whatever Raila does - he must retain Kamba vote - that is my free advice. He drop kamba vote - he goes back to highs of 30s. And there is nothing to suggest that GEMA hatred of Raila will be bridged by Martha - Uhuru himself has deployed everything the last five years.

At this point really we are looking for some excitement - because this so booring. We want Raila to lose by at least 45 percent. Not go down with 35 percent.

When you see Pundit million threads on Karua you know something is cooking. You see Pundit calling for Kaloi to save RAO numbers you know Kaloi is worth only one vote. Worrier quaking in their boots when Karua dawa yake is mentioned.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 02, 2022, 12:00:52 PM
You do not decide for rivals how to lose.;) Nature abhors vacuum so where do Kamba go after bolting? Kaloi gain nothing in bolting. All positions in KK occupied. Best the protest can do is to stay home voter apathy. You said here million times your man sleepwalking to state house but going by million threads here you are in terrible panic. You started threats to Kikuyu diaspora and they succumbed. Now you are on smothering phase. Then Karua give you shivers. Have you painted chalkface worrier yet?
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 12:07:43 PM
This election you must admit is as booring as 2013 and 2017 - because GEMA plus Kalenjin when united - is hard to beat. So I have been really pro-bono trying to help Raila.

Now my free advice - next two weeks - negotiate with kamba nation so they dont bolt out. I believe Ruto can still find something for Kalonzo...he can ask maDVD to move a little :) and create space for Kalonzo. Ruto can even give Kalonzo DPORK :) if he so desperate for it.  Kalonzo at this point just need RESPECT :) and three cabinet CS - CS of foreign affair for himself- and to avenge Raila and Uhuru mistreating him.

I dont think GEMA will bolt out of they dont have DPORK - they are just tired of having PORK and see nothing change in their lives - but Kambas is something else. They badly want DPORK.


You do not decide for rivals how to lose.;) Nature abhors vacuum so where do Kamba go after bolting? Kaloi gain nothing in bolting. All positions in KK occupied. Best the protest can do is to stay home voter apathy. You said here million times your man sleepwalking to state house but going by million threads here you are in terrible panic. You started threats to Kikuyu diaspora and they succumbed. Now you are on smothering phase. Then Karua give you shivers. Have you painted chalkface worrier yet?
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 02, 2022, 12:36:13 PM
You nailed it. Kamba desperate for DPORK. But they know they can't get it now with flipflop Kaloi. You dont threaten your way to DPORK or smile it in with mention at dead mans burial. He don get it in Azimio and also not in KK. MaDVD cannot move an inch when already in nasty infighting with Rigathi Gachagua. You promised him Finance monster and now you want to make him MCA?

Atwoli will laugh himself to death. :)
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 12:40:02 PM
It better to eat Obosuma in peace and respect - than be given rotten fish head.
Raila is treating folks shabbily. Uhuru simply doesnt give a rat ar.se.
Toxic combination that is killing Azimio
Ruto is respecting them - you can see maDVD and Weta faces are glowing.
Kalonzo is getting wrinkled and bald headed.
Now you want the guy to write a CV - something he has never written - then apply for DPORK - then appear for interviews - and then lose :) :)
Someone who joined politics in 1984 :) - guy has 40yrs political experience - longer than anyone in that space.

Whatever you do - dont show him any more MARTHARAO :)

POOR KALOI!

You nailed it. Kamba desperate for DPORK. But they know they can't get it now with flipflop Kaloi. You dont threaten your way to DPORK or smile it in with mention at dead mans burial. He don get it in Azimio and also not in KK. MaDVD cannot move an inch when already in nasty infighting with Rigathi Gachagua. You promised him Finance monster and now you want to make him MCA?

Atwoli will laugh himself to death. :)
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 02, 2022, 12:58:16 PM
You sum it well. Poor Kaloi.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 12:59:57 PM
I always thought it was Uhuru - kumbe Raila is killing himself



Just completed reading this story in Taifa Leo....
Ndiyo Nika elewa what is going on.
According to the paper, Uhuru called Raila to State House and explained to him why he wanted Kalonzo to be the running mate.....
(Uhuru had negotiated separately with Kalonzo and handed him the DP position. This was probably based on intelligence reports on the true situation on the ground)
But the Curse of Shiundu Shitawa set in...
Raila vehemently refused to accept Kalonzo. He told Uhuru that kama ni Mkamba, he would prefer Mama Ngilu as the DP, but never Kalonzo...
Son of Jomo must been befuddled!!! "Siasa is not about Urafiki, but interests" ... He must have told the Grandson of Shiundu Shitawa... But the old man totally refused to accept Kalonzo and said "kama mbaya, mbaya"
That is when Uhuru went to plan B.....
And decided to go for either Peter Kenneth or Martha Karua.... And that is where things are stuck.....
So, from the look of things Raila said he didn't want Kalonzo and his at least 2 million votes.....
And prefers either Karua or Kenneth with their 40,000 votes....
Una ona vile watu wana angukanga hesabu??
Incidentally, the time Raila completely refused to accept Kalonzo, is exactly the time Uhuru sent National Assembly Speaker Justin Muturi to join the Ruto camp...
Looks like Uhuru decided to send
emissaries mapema in case kime umana.
 With Kalonzo out of the picture, tusidanganyane..... Ruto is taking this thing at 8 am.....
I was wondering why someone like Justin Muturi, a person who fears being in the opposition like a plague, would openly court Ruto.  Kama Kuna Shishtem, Justin Muturi as number 3 in power would know it ... Kumbe they already knew that Azimio ime zama....
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Nowayhaha on May 02, 2022, 01:28:37 PM

Does not add up, why would then Uhuru make sure Kalonzo is dissadvatages int he so called Council.
This is a paid up story by Uhuru and Railas team who want to edge out Kalonzo

I always thought it was Uhuru - kumbe Raila is killing himself



Just completed reading this story in Taifa Leo....
Ndiyo Nika elewa what is going on.
According to the paper, Uhuru called Raila to State House and explained to him why he wanted Kalonzo to be the running mate.....
(Uhuru had negotiated separately with Kalonzo and handed him the DP position. This was probably based on intelligence reports on the true situation on the ground)
But the Curse of Shiundu Shitawa set in...
Raila vehemently refused to accept Kalonzo. He told Uhuru that kama ni Mkamba, he would prefer Mama Ngilu as the DP, but never Kalonzo...
Son of Jomo must been befuddled!!! "Siasa is not about Urafiki, but interests" ... He must have told the Grandson of Shiundu Shitawa... But the old man totally refused to accept Kalonzo and said "kama mbaya, mbaya"
That is when Uhuru went to plan B.....
And decided to go for either Peter Kenneth or Martha Karua.... And that is where things are stuck.....
So, from the look of things Raila said he didn't want Kalonzo and his at least 2 million votes.....
And prefers either Karua or Kenneth with their 40,000 votes....
Una ona vile watu wana angukanga hesabu??
Incidentally, the time Raila completely refused to accept Kalonzo, is exactly the time Uhuru sent National Assembly Speaker Justin Muturi to join the Ruto camp...
Looks like Uhuru decided to send
emissaries mapema in case kime umana.
 With Kalonzo out of the picture, tusidanganyane..... Ruto is taking this thing at 8 am.....
I was wondering why someone like Justin Muturi, a person who fears being in the opposition like a plague, would openly court Ruto.  Kama Kuna Shishtem, Justin Muturi as number 3 in power would know it ... Kumbe they already knew that Azimio ime zama....
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 03:32:02 PM
I hear wiper presented his name as presidential candidate..how will that work with coalition political party
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: audacityofhope on May 02, 2022, 04:40:05 PM
I hear wiper presented his name as presidential candidate..how will that work with coalition political party
How does he think he will bend the law yet he does not possess the instruments of Authority & power in the land. Watermelon is a lawyer, an SC at that yet he is clueless when the law ensnares & hangs him. If he still has queries, he should listen to what this other lawyer is saying:

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Westlands MP Tim Wanyonyi said he agreed not to run for the top county seat because his party leader Raila Odinga had been cleared to run for President under the Azimio la Umoja-One Kenya Alliance. (To which Wiper party signed up to).

Under the agreement, he said, it had been decided that ODM takes the Presidency while the Jubilee Party of President Uhuru Kenyatta takes the Nairobi Governor’s seat.
The last I checked, Watermelon is not currently a member of ODM. Case closed.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 02, 2022, 04:55:25 PM
Pundit banking Kaloi scattering 1.6m Kamba votes already divided loyalty between Ngilu, Kibwana, Mutua. All are Azimio so begin lowest common denominator is support for RAO and big axe to grind with high priest. If you see pictures of Kaloi with high priest he smiling with teeth clenched until the day mentioned at dead man's funeral. Pundit can try.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-03-02-dont-expect-me-to-work-with-ruto-kalonzo/

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Asked if he would consider working with Ruto should Raila reject his demands, Kalonzo said: “For the avoidance of doubt, nobody should expect me on account of the statement I made today (Tuesday), no Kenyan should ever imagine that Kalonzo Musyoka can work with William Ruto.”

“This is a matter which is very clear…there is no indication whatsoever, and that is out and I made up my mind,” Kalonzo said.

He said the decision to rule out chances of working with Ruto or UDA are a result of consultations within the Wiper Party and the One Kenya Alliance in which he is a principal.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 05:04:18 PM
There are no permanent enemies in politics - only permanent interests. You are now into voodoism and witchcraft.
Pundit banking Kaloi scattering 1.6m Kamba votes already divided loyalty between Ngilu, Kibwana, Mutua. All are Azimio so begin lowest common denominator is support for RAO and big axe to grind with high priest. If you see pictures of Kaloi with high priest he smiling with teeth clenched until the day mentioned at dead man's funeral. Pundit can try.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-03-02-dont-expect-me-to-work-with-ruto-kalonzo/

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Asked if he would consider working with Ruto should Raila reject his demands, Kalonzo said: “For the avoidance of doubt, nobody should expect me on account of the statement I made today (Tuesday), no Kenyan should ever imagine that Kalonzo Musyoka can work with William Ruto.”

“This is a matter which is very clear…there is no indication whatsoever, and that is out and I made up my mind,” Kalonzo said.

He said the decision to rule out chances of working with Ruto or UDA are a result of consultations within the Wiper Party and the One Kenya Alliance in which he is a principal.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 02, 2022, 05:07:03 PM
Almost everyone in wiper is a lawyer;
I dont know how they will manourve this.
What we know is they had already written to ODPP objecting some stuff in Azimio-Oka.
We know parties are presenting candidates for other posts.
But nothing probably preclude Wiper from presenting their presidential candidates :)
Like they are doing in other seats.
It appears you can present Azimio-Oka candidate or just Wiper.
In meantime Kenya Kwanza will present candidates only in their constituent parties.
Ruto will run as UDA. Weta as Ford-K.
Pundit banking Kaloi scattering 1.6m Kamba votes already divided loyalty between Ngilu, Kibwana, Mutua. All are Azimio so begin lowest common denominator is support for RAO and big axe to grind with high priest. If you see pictures of Kaloi with high priest he smiling with teeth clenched until the day mentioned at dead man's funeral. Pundit can try.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-03-02-dont-expect-me-to-work-with-ruto-kalonzo/

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Asked if he would consider working with Ruto should Raila reject his demands, Kalonzo said: “For the avoidance of doubt, nobody should expect me on account of the statement I made today (Tuesday), no Kenyan should ever imagine that Kalonzo Musyoka can work with William Ruto.”

“This is a matter which is very clear…there is no indication whatsoever, and that is out and I made up my mind,” Kalonzo said.

He said the decision to rule out chances of working with Ruto or UDA are a result of consultations within the Wiper Party and the One Kenya Alliance in which he is a principal.
I hear wiper presented his name as presidential candidate..how will that work with coalition political party
How does he think he will bend the law yet he does not possess the instruments of Authority & power in the land. Watermelon is a lawyer, an SC at that yet he is clueless when the law ensnares & hangs him. If he still has queries, he should listen to what this other lawyer is saying:

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Westlands MP Tim Wanyonyi said he agreed not to run for the top county seat because his party leader Raila Odinga had been cleared to run for President under the Azimio la Umoja-One Kenya Alliance. (To which Wiper party signed up to).

Under the agreement, he said, it had been decided that ODM takes the Presidency while the Jubilee Party of President Uhuru Kenyatta takes the Nairobi Governor’s seat.
The last I checked, Watermelon is not currently a member of ODM. Case closed.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Wa Njambi on May 03, 2022, 01:33:43 AM
In short Ruto wins by 60 percent.Rarua or Martharao trail with 40 percent

Lol.  I like both RARUA MATHARAO. Haki, hiyo Reggae will choma bangi mbila kiasi. This ticket is exactly how to lose this election without anyone's help. I am now beginning to believe the theory that Uhuru meant to confuse Raila.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on May 05, 2022, 06:23:47 AM
That is nasty Martha for you. Few years back, she wasn't sharing any values or admire Raila's politics. According to her, Raila and Kibaki were vicious merchants of corruption in Kenya. I don't think Raila will settle on her. The problem is once you betray her, she will throw tantrums never seen. She is constantly, angry, bitter, and rudderless!
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 05, 2022, 07:56:07 AM
I think she blew her chance in Kirinyanga with heckling; Raila men are in catch 22- they may settle for PK or even Munya if he can pass the legal issues - or kalonzo if they grow some brains.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 06, 2022, 11:18:16 AM
Every body know who sent hecklers to Kirinyaga who moved from Othaya burial ceremony. After sobering up they went to plant waru and Karua raruad their ego. This is millionth thread against karua. When thieves hate you, you wear their hatred as badge.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: Githunguri on May 16, 2022, 04:30:32 PM
Ruto is looking for GEMA candidate who can appeal to Non-GEMA. His biggest threat is rest of tribes seeing his ticket as Kikuyu-Kalenjin pingpong. Most people who support Raila - dont see any more merit in old sleeping man - but many just dont want the kikuyu-kalenjin hegemony going on.

Therefore Muturi and Kindiki look very good especially if Raila sobers up and pick Kalonzo. If he picks Karua - Ruto can pick anyone and win by huge margin - because Kamba fallout will be epic.

Kindiki is tharaka - and Muturi a mbeere- both are small tribes in GEMA who can be marketed almost as Non-GEMA while GEMA still feel it's part of it.

Muturi aces Kindiki when it comes to experience - he is already the number 3 in kenya as the NA Speaker.

Muturi will cost him votes doesnt appeal to GEMA

Who is smarter now?
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: GeeMail on May 16, 2022, 08:30:50 PM
Karua choice take the wind out of hasola bandia sail. Women have never been so energized. I see high priest groupies rubbishing women vote ati nothing like women constituency. Kwani where is hasola constituency? Women are no joke now. Poor Kaloi can bargain till melon rots. If Karua effect with women consistent till August they fill gap to overflow.
Title: Re: Martha Raila all look set
Post by: RV Pundit on May 17, 2022, 08:03:33 PM
Let me keep this thread for kicheko biggest moments
Momumental BLUNDER by Raila.

The next two months will be HILAROUS.
Apart from total rejection she will face;
The lack of emotional IQ to handle it;
And the total lack of chemistry with Raila;

We will see things - but nothing compared 9th of August - when Raila wakes up to find Karua made Uhuru 20 percent into 5 percent.


Hapa ni Kirinyanga - homecoming. Combination of Kibicho and Martha - hapa ni drama tupu - watu watalala ndani wengi - which is putting kibereti to the hustler revolution in mt kenya

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