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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 22, 2022, 02:44:22 PM
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Crowds are a fallacy as we have seen so often. Gusii, Machaa, etc. Ruto really knows to pull crowds - something old naive Raila long wizened over. The real differentiator in Zamunda elections is money & machinery.
Now Narok of course is very easy case of playing Maa vs Kipsigis differences. ole Kina has played the card twice successfully. 2017 was actually the best shot for Ruto to "take over" Maa - he failed and Kinas still sailed through. Ruto game there is weaker now.
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Ole Kina is the most annoying politician I have ever met. Something wrong with that dude. Kizungu mingi tuu and hare brained ideas kwa ground nothing tangible. The guy sleeps at TV stations but no program on the ground to transform maa lives. Maa lives matter.
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Crowds are a fallacy as we have seen so often. Gusii, Machaa, etc. Ruto really knows to pull crowds - something old naive Raila long wizened over. The real differentiator in Zamunda elections is money & machinery.
Now Narok of course is very easy case of playing Maa vs Kipsigis differences. ole Kina has played the card twice successfully. 2017 was actually the best shot for Ruto to "take over" Maa - he failed and Kinas still sailed through. Ruto game there is weaker now.
Uda has all elected leaders minus Kenta and ole kina who got in through split vote..Ruto this time round has avoided it by negotiating to have Patrick ntutu and I think senator is not yet agreed...ole Kenta need 100% of maasai to win...he cannot win against a dynasty like ntutu.. maasai generally elect dynasty
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Look like Tunai is emerging slowly from the shadows of fear.
Governor Samuel Ole Tunai endorsed Ntutu as his successor
Ole Tunai is going for senate seat.
Meanwhile in Azimio - Ole Kina will compete with Kilgoris Mp Konchellah for senate.
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Crowds are a fallacy as we have seen so often. Gusii, Machaa, etc. Ruto really knows to pull crowds - something old naive Raila long wizened over. The real differentiator in Zamunda elections is money & machinery.
Now Narok of course is very easy case of playing Maa vs Kipsigis differences. ole Kina has played the card twice successfully. 2017 was actually the best shot for Ruto to "take over" Maa - he failed and Kinas still sailed through. Ruto game there is weaker now.
If you are talking money and machinery, then DP is your man. The man simply has IEBC under lock and key. On the money front, he has access to 350 million shillings per day to spend until election night! Buckle up!
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I want to leave this here... just in case an investigative journalist just want to do a juicy story. Ole Kina should be taken to a journalist-Lab, if you know what I mean. Start by validating his college credentials at Colorado State, the review what he did with Masai Education Discovies in Boston, and whether he ended up marrying a girl he had rescued from FGM/forced marriege, and whether his millionaire bankrollers in New England know the facts. Also, he is a closest duo citizen, is he not. Lol.
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I had wrongly thought this would a boring election. Ruto has really excited the masses.
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Those were kipsigis who were ferried by lorry like cabbages or goats..people are paid to attend political rallies these ones maybe were given a bottle of cheap chrome and 300 bob..
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You dont know anything about Narok. Kipsigis will decide because they are 35 percent of Narok and generally dont have a candidate.
When it comes to Maasai - it's clannism. Purko are the majority-Ntutu is Purko dynasty - his father the late Lorionka Ntutu was paramount chief - and owns thousands of land.
Then you have other small clans - like Tunais Siria. Others are Moitanik and Uasin Gishu.
The last two elections.... Tunai had kipsigis votes...and won easily despite coming from a small clan.
This time - we have two candidates - both from Purko - so expect Maasai vote to be split - by half - and then Kipsigis and kikuyus to give Ntutu the boost - so generally Ntutu will win by 65 percent against Kenta 35 percent or it could be 70 percent to 30.
Chama Cha Mashinani candidate in Narok Patrick ole Ntutu has conceded defeat. Mr Ntutu, who has promised to work with the new government, was vying for the governor's seat.
He garnered 93,628 votes against Jubilee Party's Samuel Tunai's 146,660 while ODM's Joseph Tiampati came last with 40,167 votes.
Those were kipsigis who were ferried by lorry like cabbages or goats..people are paid to attend political rallies these ones maybe were given a bottle of cheap chrome and 300 bob..
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You dont know anything about Narok. Kipsigis will decide because they are 35 percent of Narok and generally dont have a candidate.
When it comes to Maasai - it's clannism. Purko are the majority-Ntutu is Purko dynasty - his father the late Lorionka Ntutu was paramount chief - and owns thousands of land.
Then you have other small clans - like Tunais Siria. Others are Moitanik and Uasin Gishu.
The last two elections.... Tunai had kipsigis votes...and won easily despite coming from a small clan.
This time - we have two candidates - both from Purko - so expect Maasai vote to be split - by half - and then Kipsigis and kikuyus to give Ntutu the boost - so generally Ntutu will win by 65 percent against Kenta 35 percent or it could be 70 percent to 30.
Chama Cha Mashinani candidate in Narok Patrick ole Ntutu has conceded defeat. Mr Ntutu, who has promised to work with the new government, was vying for the governor's seat.
He garnered 93,628 votes against Jubilee Party's Samuel Tunai's 146,660 while ODM's Joseph Tiampati came last with 40,167 votes.
Those were kipsigis who were ferried by lorry like cabbages or goats..people are paid to attend political rallies these ones maybe were given a bottle of cheap chrome and 300 bob..
That your side of story...Ledama won in 2017 senatorial race without kalenjin and Kikuyu vote..this time round we have more maasai Kikuyu and other tribes in Narok gravitating toward azimio...
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He only won by split votes; this time round Tunai will make a mince meat of him..
Maasai are like Gusii or Luhyas or Somalis - they cannot unite
Way too many clans that each has their own leaders.
So just say Narok
Majority are Kipsigis at 35
Purko maybe follow at 25
Then about 4 major Maasai clans at 10 percent or less
Then kikuyu and Gusii
UDA will sweep NAROK - Jubilee swept Narok save for Ole Kenta who won Narok North and Ledama who sneaked in as senator.
Ledama should not even bother to show up - because Konchellah is running in Azimio - splitting the vote against
That your side of story...Ledama won in 2017 senatorial race without kalenjin and Kikuyu vote..this time round we have more maasai Kikuyu and other tribes in Narok gravitating toward azimio...
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In RV any candidate with Kalenjin and Kikuyu masses wins, whether in Nakuru, Narok, or anywhere in between. Ntutu will win big in Narok, and so as Kihika in Nakuru!
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Those were kipsigis who were ferried by lorry like cabbages or goats..people are paid to attend political rallies these ones maybe were given a bottle of cheap chrome and 300 bob..
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It's not easy to put up a mega rally like that one...people should just stop this non sense of ooh so and so was paid, people were transported..is it illegal? What's stopping Ntimama wannabe from transporting people? Ole kina Bure kabisa
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Narok is no longer a Maa territory like Uasin Gishu in the 40s. It is 40% kalenjins and 10% diaspora of other tribes with okuyu leading. At this point, Ntutu and like-minded mas can win. Ole ntimama and ole kind types will always lose! Kipsigis are moving every month to Narok in droves the same way Mexicans are moving to California through Tijuana! In 15 years or so, Kipsigis will be dominating Narok politics and ole kina types will be permanently relegated to the trenches.
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Exactly.. kipsigis will move to Narok because of land pressure and maasai are buying
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Exactly.. kipsigis will move to Narok because of land pressure and maasai are buying
Another thing folks forget is that Maa and pastoralist communities has no beef with Kalenjins. Ruto will sweet pastoralist communities the same way Moi use to seeep in the 90s! Maa may go 60/40 in favor of DP!
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Yes it's just that Ruto has decided not play the ethnic card but class or economic issues otherwise urp swept most of pastoralists areas
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Also in Narok about half the maasai are not pure but mixed kalenjin..some are tugen..most are nandis and sabaots..sunkulis..the rudisha.. those are nandis..moved there in 1950s from eldoret n Mt elgon