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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 17, 2022, 09:39:40 AM
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I didnt catch the whole of it.
Now madDVD addressing.
Housing -> nailed it
Agri -> nailed
NSSF -> Saving nailed
KRA -> promises to improve collection upto 2.5 trillion Kshs
https://fb.watch/bOAhFie7UT/
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MaDVD - budgeted corruption - 3B for AG and everyone else
Judiciary - 15B
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Ruto to create propserity fund in every ward
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If pigs could fly ......... :D :D :D
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Before they fly - someone needs the clarity of mind to come up with a plan. Ruto has a well thought plan. That is why he is leading candidate in 2022.
If pigs could fly ......... :D :D :D
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Even Miguna has accepted
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Miguna² has one vote. He is allowed to endorse who ever he wants but we should not forget he said in the Jeff Koinange interview that Ruto will never be president of Kenya.
Even Miguna has accepted
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He has some influence with a million people on his twitter :)
Social influencer who knows Raila inside out.
Fearless attacker and a Luo.
He is an asset to Ruto campaign no doubt
Raila want to run on usual hypocritical stance of a reformist - while he is pure conman
Miguna² has one vote. He is allowed to endorse who ever he wants but we should not forget he said in the Jeff Koinange interview that Ruto will never be president of Kenya.
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I have no time to list the number of speeches out there of Ruto promising hot air.
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Yet his message resonate with Kenyans and is set to become PORK
I have no time to list the number of speeches out there of Ruto promising hot air.
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I will wait for the votes to be counted.
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One Kale presidency is enough, thank you.
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Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
One Kale presidency is enough, thank you.
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Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
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Mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka.
Ruto had a chance as DP to display some of his good tacts but he used the chance to enrich himself in such a short while like no other politician in the history of Kenya. Telling me he will do things differently while in SH is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks.
Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
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You think Ruto would have "won" the presidency without grand looting.
He is only a serious presidential candidate because he has the money to take on the Kenyattas and Mois
If not - Kenyattas and Mois plan - was to dominate you FOREVER - because they got money.
Uhuru without money is a useless piece of crap.
My friend running for PORK requires billions.
MaDVD imagine sold Ruto a few Maragolis for 3 billion Kshs.
Weta took home 700M - to sell his party with two MPS - one who is on retainer by Ruto :)
If Ruto had no money - Uhuru and Gideon would have bought them.
Everyday Ruto is spending 20-50M kshs in mpesa, handouts, retainers, bloggers, pastors, analyst, tv pundits
It taken billions to demonstrate to Mwafrika what bottom up is - by literaling funding wheelbarrows, mkokotenis, carwashs.
Almost every day Ruto has to send 300,000 per hour on a chopper - he does like 10hours - with at least two choppers
That alone is daily budget of 6 million Kshs....now he is probably hiring 5 choppers per day - that is like 20-30 million Kshs daily
My friend if Ruto continue stealing after he becomes PORK - then you can see he is kleptomaniac
But if after becoming PORK - like I suspect - he goes on to transform kenya.
He will be visionary.
If Ruto was interested in money - he would already have gone home - because he has made tonnes
Mtoto wa nyoka ni nyoka.
Ruto had a chance as DP to display some of his good tacts but he used the chance to enrich himself in such a short while like no other politician in the history of Kenya. Telling me he will do things differently while in SH is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks.
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My fren, that is the same sentence that was used by Kikuyus to propel one Uhuru kenyatta to the presidency.
"Uhuru already has money, he will not be corrupt". History has taught us exactly the opposite. Ruto will use this chance to even loot more than he has invested in order to buy the next presidential elections in 2027 and thereafter to keep some change for what ever happens after 2032.
You think Ruto would have "won" the presidency without grand looting.
He is only a serious presidential candidate because he has the money to take on the Kenyattas and Mois
If not - Kenyattas and Mois plan - was to dominate you FOREVER - because they got money.
Uhuru without money is a useless piece of crap.
My friend running for PORK requires billions.
MaDVD imagine sold Ruto a few Maragolis for 3 billion Kshs.
Weta took home 700M - to sell his party with two MPS - one who is on retainer by Ruto :)
If Ruto had no money - Uhuru and Gideon would have bought them.
Everyday Ruto is spending 20-50M kshs in mpesa, handouts, retainers, bloggers, pastors, analyst, tv pundits
It taken billions to demonstrate to Mwafrika what bottom up is - by literaling funding wheelbarrows, mkokotenis, carwashs.
Almost every day Ruto has to send 300,000 per hour on a chopper - he does like 10hours - with at least two choppers
That alone is daily budget of 6 million Kshs....now he is probably hiring 5 choppers per day - that is like 20-30 million Kshs daily
My friend if Ruto continue stealing after he becomes PORK - then you can see he is kleptomaniac
But if after becoming PORK - like I suspect - he goes on to transform kenya. :o :o :o
He will be visionary.
If Ruto was interested in money - he would already have gone home - because he has made tonnes
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Basically expecting a pig to diet because he is already so fat.
My fren, that is the same sentence that was used by Kikuyus to propel one Uhuru kenyatta to the presidency.
"Uhuru already has money, he will not be corrupt". History has taught us exactly the opposite. Ruto will use this chance to even loot more than he has invested in order to buy the next presidential elections in 2027 and thereafter to keep some change for what ever happens after 2032.
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:D :D :D
Basically expecting a pig to diet because he is already so fat.
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Kadudu, you have a fine head on those shoulders. :PDT_Armataz_01_37: That example is one I have quoted countless times on this forum (once in response to @Noway) and to hear @Pundit make the argument he just made, calls into question, just how politically naive he is. A leader should be concerned about the next generation. Instead FOR 10years, Uhuru & Ruto have stolen from a whole generation of Kenyans.
But why listen to us since we have really tried, let us just read from this leading economist:
No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems -- of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind".
Thomas Sowell, Economist
And this is what I posted in January
... A wise man will tell you, don't ever believe that a politician by default is a leader. POLITICIANS are only concerned with the next election. The only purpose in their lives is to stay in power, to keep their position; to win the next election so that they can keep stealing.
LEADERS are different. A leader is concerned about the next generation. A statesman is a leader by definition. Have you heard Nowayhaha post on or about matters that would affect his children or his children's children?
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11349.msg102926#msg102926
My fren, that is the same sentence that was used by Kikuyus to propel one Uhuru kenyatta to the presidency.
"Uhuru already has money, he will not be corrupt". History has taught us exactly the opposite. Ruto will use this chance to even loot more than he has invested in order to buy the next presidential elections in 2027 and thereafter to keep some change for what ever happens after 2032.
You think Ruto would have "won" the presidency without grand looting.
He is only a serious presidential candidate because he has the money to take on the Kenyattas and Mois
If not - Kenyattas and Mois plan - was to dominate you FOREVER - because they got money.
Uhuru without money is a useless piece of crap.
My friend running for PORK requires billions.
MaDVD imagine sold Ruto a few Maragolis for 3 billion Kshs.
Weta took home 700M - to sell his party with two MPS - one who is on retainer by Ruto :)
If Ruto had no money - Uhuru and Gideon would have bought them.
Everyday Ruto is spending 20-50M kshs in mpesa, handouts, retainers, bloggers, pastors, analyst, tv pundits
It taken billions to demonstrate to Mwafrika what bottom up is - by literaling funding wheelbarrows, mkokotenis, carwashs.
Almost every day Ruto has to send 300,000 per hour on a chopper - he does like 10hours - with at least two choppers
That alone is daily budget of 6 million Kshs....now he is probably hiring 5 choppers per day - that is like 20-30 million Kshs daily
My friend if Ruto continue stealing after he becomes PORK - then you can see he is kleptomaniac
But if after becoming PORK - like I suspect - he goes on to transform kenya. :o :o :o
He will be visionary.
If Ruto was interested in money - he would already have gone home - because he has made tonnes
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Ruto chose to solidify the Kalenjin image as senseless looters. You need another Kalenjin in about 50 years from now to redeem that image. Its silly at this point in time to even imagine Ruto's presidency.
Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
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Ruto chose to solidify the Kalenjin image as senseless looters. You need another Kalenjin in about 50 years from now to redeem that image. Its silly at this point in time to even imagine Ruto's presidency.
Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
I see a lot of people crying in the toilet. Raila's best chance is in 2042 after DP's 10 years and Kimani, or Ndindi's 10 years. Take it to the bank!
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Ruto chose to solidify the Kalenjin image as senseless looters. You need another Kalenjin in about 50 years from now to redeem that image. Its silly at this point in time to even imagine Ruto's presidency.
Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
We needed to convince gema..it's done deal
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Ruto chose to solidify the Kalenjin image as senseless looters. You need another Kalenjin in about 50 years from now to redeem that image. Its silly at this point in time to even imagine Ruto's presidency.
Ruto is coming to redeem our image after Moi the idiot damaged our reputation.
We are giving you a brilliant son of the gun to banish the Moi error.
Yes. Hopefully till kingdom come.
I see a lot of people crying in the toilet. Raila's best chance is in 2042 after DP's 10 years and Kimani, or Ndindi's 10 years. Take it to the bank!
And you seriously think you have said something sensible? Kibor has died at 89, what will Raila be doing in politics in 2042? Stop abusing your ability to type.
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50 percent chance Raila will be running again in 2027 against PORK RUTO claiming he was rigged out- the man just doesnt give up. His body though is giving up. He can barely stay awake. He has tried Kiwi polish but you cannot mask your real self for long.
Jaramogi was running at 85 yrs :) in 1992.
And you seriously think you have said something sensible? Kibor has died at 89, what will Raila be doing in politics in 2042? Stop abusing your ability to type.
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Rv pundit & rv heavy hitter:
The proof will be in the pudding and I will reserve judgement based on what I see economically but already your statements are worrying: he had to bribe Madvd with $30 million dollars & weta with $7 million? How much are Kenyans stealing? Jesus Christ!!
Can Kenya become like Indonesia under Suharto? Massive corruption but still economic growth? Are Kenyans Like Asians? What do they make? These are questions Ruto will have to confront?
It appears like uhuru went down like moi - he ruined the economy & now everyone is complaining about inflation. Even kamene goro was saying she couldn’t afford to survive in Kenya.
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Rv pundit & rv heavy hitter:
The proof will be in the pudding and I will reserve judgement based on what I see economically but already your statements are worrying: he had to bribe Madvd with $30 million dollars & weta with $7 million? How much are Kenyans stealing? Jesus Christ!!
Can Kenya become like Indonesia under Suharto? Massive corruption but still economic growth? Are Kenyans Like Asians? What do they make? These are questions Ruto will have to confront?
It appears like uhuru went down like moi - he ruined the economy & now everyone is complaining about inflation. Even kamene goro was saying she couldn’t afford to survive in Kenya.
DP is a big-time farmer and a businessman with over 945 apartment units in Nairobi. He can raise 30 million and 7 million dollars easily if he can save for 90 days.
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I want to be that fool
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Of course, you've always been an Ojinga supporting a perennial loser family of Odingas since 1960s
I want to be that fool
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You are already one, pretending to be a Kikuyu while its evident you are a Luo. Such tricks dont work anymore
I want to be that fool
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Hata mimi ni mjinga.
I want to be that fool
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Are there no Kikuyu fools?
You are already one, pretending to be a Kikuyu while its evident you are a Luo. Such tricks dont work anymore
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Your response is a stupid ramble, because you are responding to a post that wasn't even directed to you but to RVHH. Consequently you don't even get the point in my reply to RVHH.
My point: by giving the example of Kibor dead at 89 and you here give the example of Jaramogi running at 85, I was emphasizing that Raila in 2042, (the year RVHH mentioned without giving a thought ) would have Raila be 97 years! Eti Raila's best chance!
Since nothing registered with my example of the Age at which Kibor died, do yourself a favor and Google the life expectancy of a Kenyan and you will realise that your posts are not only foolish but you two buffoons, belong to the same foolish whatsApp group. Hiyo tu.
50 percent chance Raila will be running again in 2027 against PORK RUTO claiming he was rigged out- the man just doesnt give up. His body though is giving up. He can barely stay awake. He has tried Kiwi polish but you cannot mask your real self for long.
Jaramogi was running at 85 yrs :) in 1992.
And you seriously think you have said something sensible? Kibor has died at 89, what will Raila be doing in politics in 2042? Stop abusing your ability to type.
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You dont deserve to be here. You are without doubt the most stupid person around. RvHH used hyperbole to drive his point that the aging perennial loser will likely run until he dies. I agree. His father died running. He was so old he could barely stand...he was mostly sleeping in bed...and died a year after election of 1992. There is every likelihood that Raila will insist on being at least a Luo chieftan forever.....and will die on the throne. Nobody knows when he will die....he could live theoretically for 120yrs.
Your response is a stupid ramble, because you are responding to a post that wasn't even directed to you but to RVHH. Consequently you don't even get the point in my reply to RVHH.
My point: by giving the example of Kibor dead at 89 and you here give the example of Jaramogi running at 85, I was emphasizing that Raila in 2042, (the year RVHH mentioned without giving a thought ) would have Raila be 97 years! Eti Raila's best chance!
Since nothing registered with my example of the Age at which Kibor died, do yourself a favor and Google the life expectancy of a Kenyan and you will realise that your posts are not only foolish but you two buffoons, belong to the same foolish whatsApp group. Hiyo tu.
50 percent chance Raila will be running again in 2027 against PORK RUTO claiming he was rigged out- the man just doesnt give up. His body though is giving up. He can barely stay awake. He has tried Kiwi polish but you cannot mask your real self for long.
Jaramogi was running at 85 yrs :) in 1992.
And you seriously think you have said something sensible? Kibor has died at 89, what will Raila be doing in politics in 2042? Stop abusing your ability to type.
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Wacha ufala and answer his post. Everone will die and it just a question of time. So do not pretend that our Ruto is immortal.
You dont deserve to be here. You are without doubt the most stupid person around. RvHH used hyperbole to drive his point that the aging perennial loser will likely run until he dies. I agree. His father died running. He was so old he could barely stand...he was mostly sleeping in bed...and died a year after election of 1992. There is every likelihood that Raila will insist on being at least a Luo chieftan forever.....and will die on the throne. Nobody knows when he will die....he could live theoretically for 120yrs.
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The answer is simple. If Raila appetite for power has not abated since he participated in 1982 coup - exactly 40yrs ago - I dont see why 20yrs from now - if he will be fortunate to be alive he wont be running - like his father who died while on his quest for power - and therefore RVHH is right - 2042 might be good time for him to win - after 60yrs pursuit.
Wacha ufala and answer his post. Everone will die and it just a question of time. So do not pretend that our Ruto is immortal.
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And if you think it impossible - look no further than legendary Malaysia prime minister - born in 1925 - and was president in 2020 - aged 95yrs.
Raila has 20yrs to get there. Mugabe I think got to 90s. Raila has just started dozing off - he has a long way until he start being unable to walk...but if Ojingas still want to support him..it's democracy..as long as he is mentally capable. Kibaki still alive..Moi died nearly at 100yrs..Njonjo passed 105.
Dont give up hope - after Ndidi Nyoro or Kimani Ichungwa is done in 2042 - we will elect Raila Odinga.
He will like be on the same wavelength as jaramogi - begging to lead for two minutes only :) before he dies. We give him newyork two minutes and we proceed with someone more deserving.
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Raila is number 2 among Kenya's top politicians. He could have easily cruised to victory had the number 1 politician (Ruto) not thrown his hat in the ring. Now that Ruto will be reigning top politician in the next 10 years and possibly another 10 if folks like Ndindi or Kimani consolidate the mountain as Dpork, Raila will not have a chance in the coming 20 years. In 2042, pushing close to a hundred, he may have an opportunity, and yes, better luck than 1997, 2007, 2013, 2017, and 2022. Remember, his best chance was in 2007 when DP almost made him president. I think by 2042, kabila mbili will have worn people out and Raila stands a chance then.
In 2022, DP is gunning for the presidency and his GEMA deputy for the next 20 years, and the way things look, there is no room for anyone to penetrate. As long as RVGEMA is united, it is tough for other people to run a meaningful presidential campaign because they start off at 43-45% on day one. If GEMA supports DP to a tune of 70% and beyond, RV voters will reward GEMA fully at the end of DP's 10-year tenure. So that is 20 years of a dry spell for bwana kitendawili! If the mountain fails to support DP in convincing numbers, Raila may still have a chance in 2032. All indications, though, show they will pull a lever for Rutto in 2022, which will automatically renew in 2027 because Ruto is a performer. After DP's 10 years of economic performance, Ruto's Deputy, whether (Gachagua, Ndindi, or Kimani), will be elected and reelected easily, thus locking the 20 years under RVGEMA rule! 2042 is the only election I see bwana kitendawili haveing 50/50 chance!
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Precisely.. unless they break this RV gema alliance it's going to be defeat after defeat