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Title: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 13, 2022, 03:56:18 PM
Uhuru the lone wolf with kioni and kega
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 04:05:02 PM
Uh? is there a breaking news somewhere? Gema seems to be giving you sleepless nights. The camps are already firmed up by now - no need to lose sleep. Is even Kuria and Kiunjuri on board?
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 04:07:04 PM
Ichungwa to Kuria: Please don't bring confusion to Kenya Kwanza
https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ichungwa-to-kuria-please-don-t-bring-confusion-to-kenya-kwanza-3746196

Martha Karua denies saying she will never join Azimio
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/fact-checker/2022-03-13-martha-karua-denies-saying-she-will-never-join-azimio/
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 13, 2022, 04:21:04 PM
I am sleeping like a baby because we have repeat  of 2013 n 2017
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 04:21:53 PM
I think you mean Jungle not Sonko. Seem Kuria is back to vile attacks on Baba. So vulgar. He claims to be still negotiating with KK to be corporate member.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 13, 2022, 04:26:50 PM
This from thika rally.. uhuru outside munya and kiraitu has no battle tested general..just kioni and kega..one is sec general of jubilee and other the director of election..with murarge the deputy of uhuru.. hilarious.Look  like udf madvd run of 2013
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 05:25:42 PM
The MPs are split Ruto 2-1 Azimio. 2/3 gafnas are Azimio. There are credible fighters on both sides... unless you mean only Moses Kuria is a fighter? The combined KK bench of Kuria-Ichungw'a- Gachagua- Ndindi- etc barely delivered Kiambaa. 0.5% whisker. Against the Kaninis, Kimemias, Kionis, Kimunyas, Kamandas, Sabinas you are dismissing.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 13, 2022, 05:32:06 PM
Mps are not split that way..it like 15 Azimio against 50 mps in gema about 70mps plus women rep.. kikuyus have 55 mps ..I can name them..4 kiambu,3 muranga who thought pk would make it dpork, 3 nyeri, 2 in kirinyaga,2 nyandarua and 1 Nairobi..embu women rep
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 05:44:24 PM
There is an infographic somewhere. Ruto 2-1 Raila. Been that way for months. No magic has happened to soar Ruto to 75%. Kuria can be as vulgar as ever - won't change a thing - he had to step down for Ruto to beat dead Jubilee in Kiambaa by 500 votes. They still lost Muguga MCA to Jubilee.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 13, 2022, 05:45:29 PM
Mt Kenya yani Ruto really needs it. Ngumu sana.

Kwanza Meru - not even Kawira Mwangaza is sold on UDA popularity.. she would easily floor Linturi. She seems keen to go independent - doesn't even mention the guy - she knows her real opponent is Kiraitu.

How is the governor candidate of the wildly popular UDA unopposed? It should be a wild scramble like Kericho. Did you see folks shouting Linturi to join Azimio?
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 13, 2022, 07:52:05 PM
Lagging versus leading indicators..the reality is Uhuru despite state machinery is hamorraging..he thought being lameduck is just compound word
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 14, 2022, 08:51:35 AM
Wamatangi switched the lights out. In the darkness, I hear Wambugu Ngunjiri is looking for an exit. The bottom line is DP is mount Kenya Kingpin and anyone opposed to him will be punished severely by millions of Gema. On the other side, Kawira Mwangaza is headed straight to Kenya First to teach Kiraitu and Munya a lesson!
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 14, 2022, 08:57:07 AM

Still using sitting politicians as a yarsdtick of popularity. All the MPs and Governors you have mentioned in Azimio will be defeated in the G.E. of Aug 2022. In addition to that majority of current Mps also in U.D.A. will be defeated in G.E.
You will have new faces ome September and also you will do a Sibwria then.

The MPs are split Ruto 2-1 Azimio. 2/3 gafnas are Azimio. There are credible fighters on both sides... unless you mean only Moses Kuria is a fighter? The combined KK bench of Kuria-Ichungw'a- Gachagua- Ndindi- etc barely delivered Kiambaa. 0.5% whisker. Against the Kaninis, Kimemias, Kionis, Kimunyas, Kamandas, Sabinas you are dismissing.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 08:57:54 AM
Ruto just need to negotiate nominations fallouts.. otherwise so far Uhuru moves with Sagana and Raila endorsement have tighten Ruto grip as the undecided who were waiting for uhuru to give good reason to dump Ruto and back Raila were disappointed by the tell it all Sagana.You can see opinion polls of Ruto support going up and defections intensify..the deadline is this week the 16th when candidate list should be at iebc
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 14, 2022, 08:59:53 AM
Out of all Mt Kenya counties, Ruto will perform preety well in Meru.
I can tell you for free come election day Kiraitu might do an 2017 Isaac Ruto . When its clear Raila will be losing he will rethink the risk of losing Governors seat.


Mt Kenya yani Ruto really needs it. Ngumu sana.

Kwanza Meru - not even Kawira Mwangaza is sold on UDA popularity.. she would easily floor Linturi. She seems keen to go independent - doesn't even mention the guy - she knows her real opponent is Kiraitu.

How is the governor candidate of the wildly popular UDA unopposed? It should be a wild scramble like Kericho. Did you see folks shouting Linturi to join Azimio?
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 09:05:19 AM
Unless munya is given dpork...Ruto will go back to Ruto.I think kiraitu was convinced that munya has the Dpork.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 09:59:09 AM
it's an indicator but not only indicator..so one has to be careful considering 70 percent never make it back.You have to consider big movers like kalonzo or Madvd then cascade to MPs or governors to other important leaders..then each region has their local issues and consideration.. history is important.. opinion poll data key...and of course the tribal tapestry is what can misled opinion polls..tribe or sub tribe key as ours remain a nation of tribes and sub tribes

Still using sitting politicians as a yarsdtick of popularity. All the MPs and Governors you have mentioned in Azimio will be defeated in the G.E. of Aug 2022. In addition to that majority of current Mps also in U.D.A. will be defeated in G.E.
You will have new faces ome September and also you will do a Sibwria then.

The MPs are split Ruto 2-1 Azimio. 2/3 gafnas are Azimio. There are credible fighters on both sides... unless you mean only Moses Kuria is a fighter? The combined KK bench of Kuria-Ichungw'a- Gachagua- Ndindi- etc barely delivered Kiambaa. 0.5% whisker. Against the Kaninis, Kimemias, Kionis, Kimunyas, Kamandas, Sabinas you are dismissing.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on March 14, 2022, 11:35:07 AM
Out of all Mt Kenya counties, Ruto will perform preety well in Meru.
I can tell you for free come election day Kiraitu might do an 2017 Isaac Ruto . When its clear Raila will be losing he will rethink the risk of losing Governors seat.


Mt Kenya yani Ruto really needs it. Ngumu sana.

Kwanza Meru - not even Kawira Mwangaza is sold on UDA popularity.. she would easily floor Linturi. She seems keen to go independent - doesn't even mention the guy - she knows her real opponent is Kiraitu.

How is the governor candidate of the wildly popular UDA unopposed? It should be a wild scramble like Kericho. Did you see folks shouting Linturi to join Azimio?
Very likely Azimio only chance is with Munya as dp that can give them about 50% but as it stands Ruto has over 70-80% his ground work over the years really paid off,Merus like other mlima people can't be easily moved at this point unless something monumental like DP position
Imenti have abadoned Kiraitu,and Tigania/igembe is only the carrot gatheca dangling to Munya is keeping them guessing otherwise without it ni Ruto
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 12:02:39 PM
Embu senator Peter Ndwiga also abandon the sinking ship
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 14, 2022, 06:54:14 PM
Kiraitu Murungi is long-term Meru kingpin and has yet to lose an election since 1992. His move to defend his seat under Azimio in Mbus says alot. Unless you mean he is suddenly stupid or has been duped? That's far-fetched. I don't see the UDA excitement in Meru: Dawood, Mpuru Aburi, Kawira Mwangaza are running as independent. These folks relying on their strength and not the party.

The choice of party by Kiraitu and Kawira say alot. UDA in fact spent months courting Kiraitu and he refused.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 07:28:36 PM
Mpuru is not an mp. Dawood is mhindi easy to intimidate. All MPs in Meru are almost in UDA. Azimio has Kiraitu and Munya - if they work real hard - they can get Raila votes - that is why MOAS has Raila at 45 percent - that is only silver linning I am seeing in GEMA right now for Azimio - especially if Munya is made DPORK - otherwise GEMA is gone completely rogue on Uhururu
Kiraitu Murungi is long-term Meru kingpin and has yet to lose an election since 1992. His move to defend his seat under Azimio in Mbus says alot. Unless you mean he is suddenly stupid or has been duped? That's far-fetched. I don't see the UDA excitement in Meru: Dawood, Mpuru Aburi, Kawira Mwangaza are running as independent. These folks relying on their strength and not the party.

The choice of party by Kiraitu and Kawira say alot. UDA in fact spent months courting Kiraitu and he refused.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 14, 2022, 07:40:59 PM
i know Ruto really need to clean sweep Mt Kenya - so it would be good for you if Raila went for Munya. But with Meru at 50-50 why would Raila do that? Raila will go for Kikuyu.. PK. The delay is just the chess-game 11th hr effects. Ruto keeps touting Wahome for the same reason - to counter PK. Ruto is afraid of Murang'a going mass Azimio.

Mpuru is not an mp. Dawood is mhindi easy to intimidate. All MPs in Meru are almost in UDA. Azimio has Kiraitu and Munya - if they work real hard - they can get Raila votes - that is why MOAS has Raila at 45 percent - that is only silver linning I am seeing in GEMA right now for Azimio - especially if Munya is made DPORK - otherwise GEMA is gone completely rogue on Uhururu
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 14, 2022, 07:51:32 PM
Boardroom politics.
Politics is about people feeling you.
You need to connect with them.
Ruto has connected with Mt kenya and almost entire Kenya through hustler nation propaganda.
They need to see their struggle as your struggles.
Peter Kenneth would be a disaster for Raila.
Munya at least has done good job in Kilimo and can mobilize the ground.

Please leave boadroom politics - and focus on the grassroots.
Uhuru and his political neophytes ile kichapo they will get is gigantic.
Because projects launched in boadroom will never fly.

Elections are emotive issues.
People need to connect with you.
Uhuru with help of RUto used the ICC to connect their troubles with people feeling they had been betrayed by Kibaki and Raila.

Ruto is playing this like a boss...
And come 10th august mutalia kwa choo

Kama kawaida

i know Ruto really need to clean sweep Mt Kenya - so it would be good for you if Raila went for Munya. But with Meru at 50-50 why would Raila do that? Raila will go for Kikuyu.. PK. The delay is just the chess-game 11th hr effects. Ruto keeps touting Wahome for the same reason - to counter PK. Ruto is afraid of Murang'a going mass Azimio.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 14, 2022, 08:53:35 PM
Ribena , you see the biggest problem with you is self deceit . How can Meru be 50/50  and Muranga going mass Azimio.
Even Raila himself knows this is impossible actually out of all Mt Kenya Counties Ruto will reap the largest % wise in Meru and Muranga apart from  Embu and Kirinyaga.
I can still see you are in love with PK. We are 4 Months to elections and he is yet to roar  . Atleast in 2017  we could see him making noise when he was vying for Nairobi Govern ship .

i know Ruto really need to clean sweep Mt Kenya - so it would be good for you if Raila went for Munya. But with Meru at 50-50 why would Raila do that? Raila will go for Kikuyu.. PK. The delay is just the chess-game 11th hr effects. Ruto keeps touting Wahome for the same reason - to counter PK. Ruto is afraid of Murang'a going mass Azimio.

Mpuru is not an mp. Dawood is mhindi easy to intimidate. All MPs in Meru are almost in UDA. Azimio has Kiraitu and Munya - if they work real hard - they can get Raila votes - that is why MOAS has Raila at 45 percent - that is only silver linning I am seeing in GEMA right now for Azimio - especially if Munya is made DPORK - otherwise GEMA is gone completely rogue on Uhururu
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Githunguri on March 14, 2022, 09:29:07 PM
This is not news,Kabogo has always been a belligerent in GEMA politics..Remember in 2002 he won on sisi kwa sisi ticket against the narc wave,In 2009 re election he won using Nark kenya with martha karua...P  Kenneth and Karua opposed Uhuru in 2013 and he still won...don't expect all Kikuyu leaders to support Uhuru all the time. That would be foolish...The game here is to ensure that if your party associates itself with UDA you will have hundreds of candidates to buy nomination papers, its free money...in millions or like in the case of Kiambu.If wamatangi runs with UDA,Kuria Chama cha kazi,Nyoro jubilee,Jungle independent ..that gives Kabogo lee way to win election.
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 14, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
Alice Wahome is being touted as a possible Ruto runningmate - despite her non-redeeming qualities - because of PK. Obviously -- unless you can venture another reason? Murang'a like Meru have a "it's our turn" entitlement.

Meru is 50-50 even by your mentor Pundit's MOAS. Kiraitu and Kawira are not suicidal idiots. Once you get a grip on Meru being split - and the attendant reasons - you will see why Murang'a is a hard nut when Raila has PK, majority MPs and all the Murang'a creme.

Ribena , you see the biggest problem with you is self deceit . How can Meru be 50/50  and Muranga going mass Azimio.
Even Raila himself knows this is impossible actually out of all Mt Kenya Counties Ruto will reap the largest % wise in Meru and Muranga apart from  Embu and Kirinyaga.
I can still see you are in love with PK. We are 4 Months to elections and he is yet to roar  . Atleast in 2017  we could see him making noise when he was vying for Nairobi Govern ship .
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Nefertiti on March 15, 2022, 09:30:53 PM
And this is sticky cause...
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: Dear Mami on March 15, 2022, 10:01:13 PM
And this is sticky cause...

Lol. Uliza Pundit. I'm sure he's the one who put it up here  :D
Title: Re: Wamatangi, kurias, kabogo and sonko back Ruto
Post by: RV Pundit on March 16, 2022, 05:52:08 AM
I didnt stick this one...removing it