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Title: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 09:43:39 PM
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H.E Hon Kalonzo Musyoka will tommorrow at 10AM issue a personal Statement from the Command Centre, Karen. Please send media crew for coverage.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 09:44:51 PM
We are told that Kalonzo will be addressing the press tomorrow.
What do you expect from him?
1. Join Asimio and endorse Ouru's Project
2. Announce his departure from OKA and announce that he'll go it alone
3. Announce his interest to work with Dr. Ruto
4. Announce that he's ready for talks with the "like-minded"
5. Announce when he'll announce what he will be announcing
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 09:45:36 PM
I think he has found nobody in OKA willing to endorse him; Gideon did a MIA; Jirongo obviously a proxy.

He needs Martha & Kuria.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 28, 2022, 09:47:26 PM
He is joining ruto
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 09:48:46 PM
Then no need for 2022 elections - Chebukati should also join UDA.

He is joining ruto
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 09:55:36 PM

If so he would be 10 years late.

He is joining ruto
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 06:48:18 AM
Reading Maanzo, Wambua and Kilonzo Jrn - it appears talk with Azimio has fallen flat - as Kalonzo is keen to collect his debt and Raila never had any intention to pay.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: audacityofhope on March 01, 2022, 07:07:18 AM
You ask questions and then go ahead to answer yourself on other threads. Here is one answer you should have just copy pasted here:

Hiyo ni drama bure.
Kalonzo is right but not diplomatic.
Let Maanzo break it down pole pole to Kamba
Mt Kenya will get DPORK

Mt Kenya especially Kikuyus just have way too much political capital to be ignored.

But Kalonzo has to be aware of propaganda that can be unleashed by his watermelon pingbong.

In short he should simply have said the best qualified person will get it.

Kalonzo still a watermelon but he will get there...(in Azimio)

Seems like Kenya kwisha are also having their fair share of problems.The issue of running mate not yet settled.Twitter is burning,Wiper wametoa statement moto sana.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 07:53:25 AM
Tough luck! Thanks goodness the deadline for coalition was pushed for a month; you'd already be crying in the toilet.

MaDVD signed up. Kalonzo is playing kalongo with Raila.

You ask questions and then go ahead to answer yourself on other threads. Here is one answer you should have just copy pasted here:
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:32:57 AM
Kalonzo address - fresh negotiation - based on the document
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:33:17 AM
Highlight NASA deal - binding LEGAL DOCUMENT

Principal Raila and Kalonzo in both 2017 and 2022 election.

Kalonzo once his debt paid
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:34:48 AM
This one has drank water - Raila on the corner - will not accept these terms.

Now Uhuru - and his Gideon Moi - what are their game?

Raila about to discover this is as usual not AJUA
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
Kalonzo should support Raila, If he goes Kenya  Kwanza then Raila will be forced to suppport GEMA and that is what we dont want.
We want it to be Ruto vs Raila.

This one has drank water - Raila on the corner - will not accept these terms.

Now Uhuru - and his Gideon Moi - what are their game?

Raila about to discover this is as usual not AJUA
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:38:30 AM
It's about to become interesting. Raila on the corner and his Luo automatons can do anything out of spite. I agree he can do anything now. Kalonzo has just extinguish his Azimio to Kuzimia.
Kalonzo should support Raila, If he goes Kenya  Kwanza then Raila will be forced to suppport GEMA and that is what we dont want.
We want it to be Ruto vs Raila.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Pajero on March 01, 2022, 11:43:09 AM
I don't understand Kalonzo,anyone help me understand what he has just said.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:44:31 AM
In Luo or English - he simply told Raila to jump to either Nyando or Sondu river if he doesnt intend to honour the legal personal deal btw him and Kalonzo.

He says he doesnt want Nyundo!

He says you're looking at tough negotiator - international

I warned you guys.

I don't understand Kalonzo,anyone help me understand what he has just said.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:47:21 AM
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 11:47:48 AM
Raila didnt support Kibaki on principle in 2002 it was out of spite. As a get back to Moi.
He will do the same. He might decide to Tosha Peter Keneth.

It's about to become interesting. Raila on the corner and his Luo automatons can do anything out of spite. I agree he can do anything now. Kalonzo has just extinguish his Azimio to Kuzimia.
Kalonzo should support Raila, If he goes Kenya  Kwanza then Raila will be forced to suppport GEMA and that is what we dont want.
We want it to be Ruto vs Raila.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:49:17 AM
Yes is now a dog in the manger.
Desperately hanging on Uhuru and Gideon Moi coattail.
Now Uhuru can tell him let tosha PK :) and he will do it.
It's about to become interesting because Kalonzo just threw the keys to Raila statehouse in Lake Victoria
And told him go find them.
Raila didnt support Kibaki on principle in 2002 it was out of spite. As a get back to Moi.
He will do the same. He might decide to Tosha Peter Keneth.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:52:19 AM
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Pajero on March 01, 2022, 11:55:31 AM
Let him go
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 11:56:36 AM
Lipa deni boss. What is Uhuru pull Azimio and leave ODM - in the lonely corner. Mambo bado. You accepted to be planned. Tulieni. Kwa Mahoteli kubwa munywe chai
Let him go
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Pajero on March 01, 2022, 12:35:58 PM
You still doesnt believe Uhuru is supporting Raila,even at this juncture in tym you still believe he will pull a surprise on Raila.move on.We are matchingbfoward,with or without Kalonzo.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
How many votes does Uhuru bring to Azimio ?
How many votes does Kalonzo bring to Azimio ?


You still doesnt believe Uhuru is supporting Raila,even at this juncture in tym you still believe he will pull a surprise on Raila.move on.We are matchingbfoward,with or without Kalonzo.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Pajero on March 01, 2022, 12:49:01 PM
Uhuru brings 5million GEMA votes,Kalonzo brings 0.8 kamba votes.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 12:50:06 PM
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 12:58:09 PM
GEMA will never support Raila.

Uhuru brings 5million GEMA votes,Kalonzo brings 0.8 kamba votes.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: gout on March 01, 2022, 01:26:14 PM
It is time to repeat betrayal, deception and conmanship as many times as possible.

Lucky ufool, saw Rigathi saying he will take some secrets to the grave.

Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: GeeMail on March 01, 2022, 02:42:51 PM
Playing victim in Kenya land of betrayals, who forget how he instructed Daniel Maanzo to run away with ODM? Almost every politician in Kenya has betrayed someone even own family.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: gout on March 01, 2022, 02:48:31 PM
 :D :D :D It is good time for betrayal exorcism. Otherwise what is the use of these negotiations, coalitions??

Playing victim in Kenya land of betrayals, who forget how he instructed Daniel Maanzo to run away with ODM? Almost every politician in Kenya has betrayed someone even own family.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 01, 2022, 02:48:59 PM
Kalonzo is looking for relevance. He has no leverage. Even ruto can't guarantee him dp position. Let him run on oka and may be with his 4% he can negotiate better during runnoff
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Kadudu on March 01, 2022, 04:05:12 PM
Kalonzo is making the same mistake he made in 2007. He should have never supported Kibaki's coup. Had he stood by the truth, the man would have gone in the history books of kenya and maybe today be president. He soiled his name and I personally think Kalonzo has his political high behind him no matter what he does in the coming elections.

Kalonzo is looking for relevance. He has no leverage. Even ruto can't guarantee him dp position. Let him run on oka and may be with his 4% he can negotiate better during runnoff
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 01, 2022, 05:15:23 PM
Kalonzo is looking for relevance. He has no leverage. Even ruto can't guarantee him dp position. Let him run on oka and may be with his 4% he can negotiate better during runnoff
Actually 6%, which is Raila's, not Ruto's votes. Ruto will hit 53% in that case and Raila will crest at around 41%
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 01, 2022, 05:16:38 PM
I don't understand Kalonzo,anyone help me understand what he has just said.
Kalonzo is saying " Raila is Kaput"
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: GeeMail on March 01, 2022, 05:44:46 PM
Fact that he give condition to Azimio show Kalonzo has more hate for Ruto than Raila love. Take that to bank.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 07:00:43 PM
You give condition internally
You bring the difference externally when you need to explain that negotiation has broken down.
Kalonzo plan A - remain Azimio - if Uhuru and then Raila see the sense in backing him.
Kalonzo Plan B - is either run alone or join Ruto.
I am sure single phone call to Muthama will fix maneno yake in Ruto camp
Fact that he give condition to Azimio show Kalonzo has more hate for Ruto than Raila love. Take that to bank.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 01, 2022, 07:18:44 PM
Mikora sana hii Raila
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 07:26:00 PM
If Kalonzo stood with UhuRuto in 2013 he would be in Rutos poaition today President designate . Association with Raila spoiled his Presidential chances .


Kalonzo is making the same mistake he made in 2007. He should have never supported Kibaki's coup. Had he stood by the truth, the man would have gone in the history books of kenya and maybe today be president. He soiled his name and I personally think Kalonzo has his political high behind him no matter what he does in the coming elections.

Kalonzo is looking for relevance. He has no leverage. Even ruto can't guarantee him dp position. Let him run on oka and may be with his 4% he can negotiate better during runnoff
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: GeeMail on March 01, 2022, 07:38:00 PM
Whats best thing Kenya Kwisha can offer him?
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 01, 2022, 07:42:15 PM
In 2013 after supreme court decision I was with my dad and he was hysterically laughing at kalonzo. He was like this kalonzo is the worst gambler. He again backed a losing horse. Kalonzo is tick. Just sucking blood from elephants while he is just a mouse.
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 02, 2022, 06:42:06 AM
Whats best thing Kenya Kwisha can offer him?
1/4 of gov...three ministries and related gov shsre.. couple of billion shs in signing fee..he can deputize madvd by focusing on foreign affairs as assistant chief minister or nominated to parliament as parliament majority leader.He is free to take Raila fake offer n still get beaten
Title: Re: Kalonzo kunaendaje?
Post by: RV Pundit on March 02, 2022, 09:44:22 AM