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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on February 28, 2022, 05:12:48 PM
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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) mankind
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
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The security of a country like Russia is bigger than Putin.
I totally understand why Russia have been spooked by NATO expansionist imperialism.
Russia have legitimate reason to attack Ukraine.
Stop that NATO nonsense.
Post cold-war and collapse of USSR - what justification for all this?
3 October 1990 German reunification
12 March 1999 Czech Republic Fourth
Hungary
Poland
29 March 2004 Bulgaria Fifth
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
1 April 2009 Albania Sixth
Croatia
5 June 2017 Montenegro Seventh
27 March 2020 North Macedonia
Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) Patel
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
Patel goes where kalenjins go. I thought he was a luo but it seems he is from rv
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Lol, say what you want. I'm no Putin Lover. I admire Chinese governance, NOT Russian: The Chinese are all about solving their poor people's problems. Russians are too Kenyan-like for my taste, i.e. in their oligarchic tendencies and corruption. But when it comes to geopolitics, you'll never catch me dead just swallowing American propaganda without digging further: those mofos are dangerous! :D I just happen to know the Americans have caused this particular crisis and it was totally preventable.
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It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?
The security of a country like Russia is bigger than Putin.
I totally understand why Russia have been spooked by NATO expansionist imperialism.
Russia have legitimate reason to attack Ukraine.
Stop that NATO nonsense.
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Nobody has a problem if they join EU or even Africa Free Trade Area or even American-Canada Trade deal.
NATO is a problem.
NATO basically says if you attack any member - all the members are bound to attack you.
Now imagine if you have a neigberhour - and as always - neighberhours have issues - like Migingo - and you cannot tell Uganda anything because countries from Senegal to egypt will attack you.
There is absolutely no way I can accept that.
From my own personal experience - we had similar situation in my home - we bought land in middle of a certain clan - who dominated the village.
Every time the conflict got violent - they would merge - and attack us combined.
It's just that we were bad -ase and wise - sometimes holding ground until we got police.
That is why Russian have said any contogious neighbour planning or imagining of joining NATO is declaring war on RUssia.
They are not gonna wait until they join...they will attack if you show ANY INTENTION.
It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?
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Nobody has a problem if they join EU or even Africa Free Trade Area or even American-Canada Trade deal.
NATO is a problem.
NATO basically says if you attack any member - all the members are bound to attack you.
Now imagine if you have a neigberhour - and as always - neighberhours have issues - like Migingo - and you cannot tell Uganda anything because countries from Senegal to egypt will attack you.
There is absolutely no way I can accept that.
From my own personal experience - we had similar situation in my home - we bought land in middle of a certain clan - who dominated the village.
Every time the conflict got violent - they would merge - and attack us combined.
It's just that we were bad -ase and wise.
It is economics, stupid.
Tell me one satellite state of Russia that has progressed economically in the last 20 years.
Countries like Poland, Baltic States have moved on economically without having being blessed natural raw materials like oil or gas. Who there would want to go back to the good old days of the Warsaw Pact?
That's it, plus they don't want missiles stationed at their border ready to launch into their country at any moment, which is what would happen if either Georgia or Ukraine joined Nato.
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Pundit, putin target is 🇺🇸. He is just bullying Ukraine and invading it in hope this will force American to vote gop back. Ptin see 🇺🇸 as his,bully and wants to teach Americans liberals a lesson. If this backfires on Biden them rethugs can take congress in midterm elections. Nato is not his worry
He has no plans of recreating ussr empire.
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Putin is not an idiot. He knows US is extremely powerful. He has no ambition of fighting or even competing with US anywhere in the world. US is gorrilla in the room. But US and Western Europe remain ever imperalist. We know them here. They are all over world with Neo-Colonialism. They want to impose their dollar. Their technology. They want power. They want to dominate the world.
Putin and China are the forces against Western Imperialism. Colonialism ended but they began neo-coloniliasm - and want to turn the entire world to be like Latin America - where they invade any time any day - interfere willy nilly.
Pundit, putin target is 🇺🇸. He is just bullying Ukraine and invading it in hope this will force American to vote gop back. Ptin see 🇺🇸 as his,bully and wants to teach Americans liberals a lesson. If this backfires on Biden them rethugs can take congress in midterm elections. Nato is not his worry
He has no plans of recreating ussr empire.
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Putin still messes with 🇺🇸. He has found out if can drive a wedge between democrats and gop he can have a lot of leverage. Putin was very powerful during Trump time. Anyway putin is 69 years. He has ruled for 20 years and I think his time is up and will be gone with a decade
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Putin is not problem. Any Russian president will hold the keys to incredible nuclear weapons. It doesnt matter if they are Putin or Stalin. They will kick arse. The same with China or US. US president is not powerful - the US is powerful..
Putin still messes with 🇺🇸. He has found out if can drive a wedge between democrats and gop he can have a lot of leverage. Putin was very powerful during Trump time. Anyway putin is 69 years. He has ruled for 20 years and I think his time is up and will be gone with a decade
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Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place
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Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place
I support this! Let people walk into Russia and take away their nukes :D When they're finished, they should pass by N.Korea and take those nukes, too. Then Pakistan, India, Israel, China, France, Britain, and finally, the U.S. I'd donate a year's salary into the kitty to do this. It'd mean no more nuclear threats to poor ones like us who NEVER made a single dangerous world-destroying weapon.
When you find this Avenger squad, tell me, I'll fully support them. :D
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You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.
Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
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Well this was the longterm intention of NATO . Putin saw it in advance and decided first to Dissarm Ukraine and stop the further expansion of NATO . Now why are you angry with him when you are advocating the same thing ?
Russia needs to be disarmed. Take the nukes and occupy that damn place
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You are now commenting like anti-vaxxers. Believing you have swallowed and digested all wisdom for yourself.
You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.
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Kadudu answer me the following questions why was NATO formed ? Why are they expanding Eastwards ?
You are now commenting like anti-vaxxers. Believing you have swallowed and digested all wisdom for yourself.
You can clearly see Pro Russia are Independent Minded people who can analyse and form an opinion away from Media Influence.
Now Pro Ukraine are people brainwashed by Western Media very emotional when you ask them why they are supporting Ukraine they have no clue they can only blubber what Western Media iw diwhing out.
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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
5) Patel
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
Patel goes where kalenjins go. I thought he was a luo but it seems he is from rv
Going on a limb, here, I'd add Mwalimu to our column which is NOT about loving dictators so much as being VERY WEARY of Western imperialism and the American military-industrial complex :D By all indications, he has seriously studied Bazungu shenanigans in non-Bazungu lands over the past few centuries and has developed the same healthy fear of their ways that I have, especially the American Bazungu.
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
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some of the great things you get are as result of US & Western Europe imperialism; modern slave trade; For example the dollar as defacto global currency means the US can take as much debt as it want and simply repay by printing paper for the rest of the world. This make the US live irresponsibly while rest of the world are saving and living frugally. US and likes get international deals cheaply, minerals cheaply, name it, cheaply because they have rigged the system.
When countries like China and Russia exclude their countries from such imperial system - western propaganda goes on the usual they are anti-democratic evils.
I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
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Me sympathize with dictators? You got me wrong!
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Me sympathize with dictators? You got me wrong!
I have you in pro democracy camp
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Me sympathize with dictators? You got me wrong!
I have you in pro democracy camp
Despotic democracy sometimes worse. Canada, US, Australia.
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys say you disavow.
Did you know that the U.S. has a law in the books by which it gives itself permission and the "right" to invade the Netherlands if a single American is ever tried at the ICC for war crimes? :D Ati Pro-Rule of Law/Pro-International Law/Pro-Democracy, my foot! People who overthrow elected govts to force NATO membership are NOT pro-democracy. Urongo mtupu. I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two, the way they rave each other up in some interviews. I just pray/hope its for show and they're not as insane as they come across. :)
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Dictatorship lovers and sympathizers
1) noway
2) dear Mami
3) Pundit
4) Kirgit
Pro_Ukraine
1) Terminator
2) Audacity of dope
3) njuri machete strategist
4) rv Hitter
5) Geemail..not sure on this one
6) kadudu
7) fb
Ads your name to either list. You can clearly see we have few communist sympathizers
Yeppers. And for clarification, more anti-Putin than pro-Ukraine.
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys disavow.:D I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys disavow.:D I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
Oops! You were the one I was talking about when I said Mwalimu! I don't know why I thought your name is Mwalimu. I noticed long ago you've done your fair share of reading on Western imperialism and knew you wouldn't jump on the latest Bandwagon.
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Precisely. The US aint going down without a fight but China rise is almost inevitable. Their current panic is accelerating their decline as China now comfortably provide a counter-force.
If I was to look for countries to look upto - it would be some of scandavians countries like finland - not the US of A.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys say you disavow.
Did you know that the U.S. has a law in the books by which it gives itself permission and the "right" to invade the Netherlands if a single American is ever tried at the ICC for war crimes? :D Ati Pro-Rule of Law/Pro-International Law/Pro-Democracy, my foot! People who overthrow elected govts to force NATO membership are NOT pro-democracy. Urongo mtupu. I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two, the way they rave each other up in some interviews. I just pray/hope its for show and they're not as insane as they come across. :)
With you totally. Right now US probably regretting not being part of ICC because they would have taken Putin there pronto!
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Precisely. The US aint going down without a fight but China rise is almost inevitable. Their current panic is accelerating their decline as China now comfortably provide a counter-force.
If I was to look for countries to look upto - it would be some of scandavians countries like finland - not the US of A.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
Heres why Putin made terrible mistake. China given opportunity would probably trample Russia on its way to glory. At the moment China is staking out chance to make it top. Can even kiss Uncle Sam for 30 pieces of Russian roubles. If Russia thought China would play twin brother against Ukraine then big mistake. Leave that to Belarus which will also go down with Russia economy assuming Putin survive this alive.
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If US were in ICC , Clinton ,Bush ,Obama and Biden would be rotting in jail as we speak.
I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys say you disavow.
Did you know that the U.S. has a law in the books by which it gives itself permission and the "right" to invade the Netherlands if a single American is ever tried at the ICC for war crimes? :D Ati Pro-Rule of Law/Pro-International Law/Pro-Democracy, my foot! People who overthrow elected govts to force NATO membership are NOT pro-democracy. Urongo mtupu. I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two, the way they rave each other up in some interviews. I just pray/hope its for show and they're not as insane as they come across. :)
With you totally. Right now US probably regretting not being part of ICC because they would have taken Putin there pronto!
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Sure thing!
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/27/ukraine-what-will-china-do-there-are-signs-it-is-uneasy-about-putins-methods
China playing safe. Not neutral at all considering they have been planning to invade Taiwan as well. Watching Russia now is like mock exam.
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You seem to live in your own world. Refer to below
Precisely. The US aint going down without a fight but China rise is almost inevitable. Their current panic is accelerating their decline as China now comfortably provide a counter-force.
If I was to look for countries to look upto - it would be some of scandavians countries like finland - not the US of A.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
Heres why Putin made terrible mistake. China given opportunity would probably trample Russia on its way to glory. At the moment China is staking out chance to make it top. Can even kiss Uncle Sam for 30 pieces of Russian roubles. If Russia thought China would play twin brother against Ukraine then big mistake. Leave that to Belarus which will also go down with Russia economy assuming Putin survive this alive.
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China normally not hesitate to stand with Russia and speak loud. The pipty pipty this time send big signal to Russia.
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In your dreams
China normally not hesitate to stand with Russia and speak loud. The pipty pipty this time send big signal to Russia.
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That is why Russian have said any contogious neighbour planning or imagining of joining NATO is declaring war on RUssia
I'm confused. Contiguous neighbors are a threat to Russia why?
And I keep telling you Pundit to just make one visit to China and you'll stop these stories of China becoming a super power anytime during our lifetimes. The per capita income in China is what $8,000 dollars a year? (nobody even knows the real number because there's no real rule of law there)-- The CCP controls everything. Per capita income in the US is what? $65,000 per year?
It'll take China 300 years to catch up with the per capita incomes in the west. China is nowhere close to matching the west in ANYTHING (militarily, scientifically, creatively, innovation-wise) Outside of Beijing and Shanghai, it's a country of 3rd world peasants put on lockdown by a regime that doesn't allow freedom (no google, no twitter, no facebook, no instagram) no CNN all are blocked in China. It's the only way for them to control those masses of poor rural Chinese.
The dollar became the world's reserve currency because the US WON world war II. What war has China won?
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Let be clear.
Russia will never entertain any of it's former USSR allies that it shares a common border to join NATO.
The issue is the are many unresolved border and related conflicts.
Joining NATO mean those countries will get backing of NATO allies against Russia.
For example Ukraine - has many ethnic russians - many of whom the Ukrainian (polish) have been fighting for some years now
Crimea is another example - and many others.
China - I think you're mistaken - very mistaken. China wealth is real. Ask the US treasury. Ask the EU treasury. They both hold 3 trillion of hard cold cash that belong to China. Kenya alone has 10B dollars.
China GDP per capita is approaching 10K.
China undervalues the Yuan.
If it allows Yuan to float freely and find it base - it's economy would double as the yuan will double
China overtook US in 2014 in GDP PPP.
If it stops manipulating it's currency - to make it's export competitive - it's GDP would double overtaking US by far.
China is not in hurry to display it's strength.
China is playing for long term - submarine attack on the Western Imperialist's.
I'm confused. Contiguous neighbors are a threat to Russia why?
And I keep telling you Pundit to just make one visit to China and you'll stop these stories of China becoming a super power anytime during our lifetimes. The per capita income in China is what $8,000 dollars a year? (nobody even knows the real number because there's no real rule of law there)-- The CCP controls everything. Per capita income in the US is what? $65,000 per year?
It'll take China 300 years to catch up with the per capita incomes in the west. China is nowhere close to matching the west in ANYTHING (militarily, scientifically, creatively, innovation-wise) Outside of Beijing and Shanghai, it's a country of 3rd world peasants put on lockdown by a regime that doesn't allow freedom (no google, no twitter, no facebook, no instagram) no CNN all are blocked in China. It's the only way for them to control those masses of poor rural Chinese.
The dollar became the world's reserve currency because the US WON world war II. What war has China won?
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Why you keep on bringing in China when Discussing Russia.
Why visit China to see how life in Russia is ?
Western Media has corrupted people to an extent they cant differentiatw between Russia and China.
That is why Russian have said any contogious neighbour planning or imagining of joining NATO is declaring war on RUssia
I'm confused. Contiguous neighbors are a threat to Russia why?
And I keep telling you Pundit to just make one visit to China and you'll stop these stories of China becoming a super power anytime during our lifetimes. The per capita income in China is what $8,000 dollars a year? (nobody even knows the real number because there's no real rule of law there)-- The CCP controls everything. Per capita income in the US is what? $65,000 per year?
It'll take China 300 years to catch up with the per capita incomes in the west. China is nowhere close to matching the west in ANYTHING (militarily, scientifically, creatively, innovation-wise) Outside of Beijing and Shanghai, it's a country of 3rd world peasants put on lockdown by a regime that doesn't allow freedom (no google, no twitter, no facebook, no instagram) no CNN all are blocked in China. It's the only way for them to control those masses of poor rural Chinese.
The dollar became the world's reserve currency because the US WON world war II. What war has China won?
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys disavow.:D I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
China without using unfair trade practices such copyright and trademark violations can't compete. All 🇺🇸 has to do is ask for WTO rules to be enforced and China would be in big economic trouble. I used to review joint ventures aagreements btw China and USA companies. These idiots would demand technology transfer and make it very hard for the 🇺🇸 company to collect. Every quarter I would chase Chinese customers to pay and they would hide behind ccp fx restrictions not to pay. Trump approach on China was right
They need to be stopped from stealing use technology and just making two set of trade rules. Ccp will never beat America. I know you like writing big inshas as every communist is in love with essays that say nothing
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys disavow.:D I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
China without using unfair trade practices such copyright and trademark violations can't compete. All 🇺🇸 has to do is ask for WTO rules to be enforced and China would be in big economic trouble. I used to review joint ventures aagreements btw China and USA companies. These idiots would demand technology transfer and make it very hard for the 🇺🇸 company to collect. Every quarter I would chase Chinese customers to pay and they would hide behind ccp fx restrictions not to pay. Trump approach on China was right
They need to be stopped from stealing use technology and just making two set of trade rules. Ccp will never beat America. I know you like writing big inshas as every communist is in love with essays that say nothing
A supposedly well educated fella engaging in Mcarthysm . The only intelligent thing I see you spout here is shouting Ccp. It is clear your knowledge of geopolitics is very limited going by the you tube videos you post from people like Chris Chapo or so. I wonder how you were capable of reviewing the said contracts intelligently when you definitely have such bias. Since am not interested in the competition of idiocy and psycophancy I will recommend something that can help you. Go to Wondrium ( previously known as the great courses plus) and sign up for 30 bucks for a few months then access knowledge that you obviously lack in form of lectures from world renowned professors on I recommend history lessons then come back and argue from a point of knowledge. Start with the history of the Cia and the many lies,coups and covert operations they have engaged in over decades. If you come out of there believing half the crap you do then just check yourself into a mental facility.
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Mankind,
Are you a communist? Do you love communists? Do you hate democracy and free-markets?
I can see you have been baptized by Karl Marx ideology of destruction and backwardness. We are serving Russian Tankies a dose of their own medicine.
Are you living in the west while hating capitalism? I am surprised even after 100 years of misery you still believe in tankies..like ccp and Russia are moral equivalents of usa. The land of the free and the brave is unmatched when it comes to support of freedom all the world. We liberated the world from Hittler and Japanese emperors. Restored order and we won't allow communists to undo this
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McCarthy wannabe Plato do you even know what communism is? I don't have time to educate you so make use of the resource I recommended earlier. I don't know what you studied but a little knowledge of comparative economics would do you some good too. And please leave the word morality out when it comes to your obsession with the west because am afraid this level of western influence on you would make you sell your own kind as slaves if slavery was brought back. A Russian or Chinese bullet is worse than a Western bullet according to your logic right?
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They didnt even know they were going to war??
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McCarthy wannabe Plato do you even know what communism is? I don't have time to educate you so make use of the resource I recommended earlier. I don't know what you studied but a little knowledge of comparative economics would do you some good too. And please leave the word morality out when it comes to your obsession with the west because am afraid this level of western influence on you would make you sell your own kind as slaves if slavery was brought back. A Russian or Chinese bullet is worse than a Western bullet according to your logic right?
I am not a ideologue but a very pragmatic man. I love pragmatic principled people. I am very unkind to men like you who want to play Whataboutism on issue that clear cut and are moral issues. You see dictator lovers and communists are kings of gaslighting. You ask them why there is disease, hunger and thirst in their country and they say you know that "ogre Imperialism ate our progress". The boogieman, the man behind the curtain the marionette has to be blamed for your own failures.
Here we have a country that without provocation attacks another and decides that they want to colonize this country in year 2022. everyone and their mother tries to reason with the aggressor but then folks like you have to blame Americans and West. You do not blame your fellow communist Tankie Vladimir Putin
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McCarthy wannabe Plato do you even know what communism is? I don't have time to educate you so make use of the resource I recommended earlier. I don't know what you studied but a little knowledge of comparative economics would do you some good too. And please leave the word morality out when it comes to your obsession with the west because am afraid this level of western influence on you would make you sell your own kind as slaves if slavery was brought back. A Russian or Chinese bullet is worse than a Western bullet according to your logic right?
I am not a ideologue but a very pragmatic man. I love pragmatic principled people. I am very unkind to men like you who want to play Whataboutism on issue that clear cut and are moral issues. You see dictator lovers and communists are kings of gaslighting. You ask them why there is disease, hunger and thirst in their country and they say you know that "ogre Imperialism ate our progress". The boogieman, the man behind the curtain the marionette has to be blamed for your own failures.
Here we have a country that without provocation attacks another and decides that they want to colonize this country in year 2022. everyone and their mother tries to reason with the aggressor but then folks like you have to blame Americans and West. You do not blame your fellow communist Tankie Vladimir Putin
Guru, One thing I have learnt is that I will never change anyone's mind about anything. In their own world, they believe what they are saying or doing is right. That s why we have Trumps, Putins,etc. Ever wondered, how did Jim Jones take normal functioning people all the way to Guyana, make them drink poison, and believed that they will go straight to heaven. Mental illness is real!!!
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McCarthy wannabe Plato do you even know what communism is? I don't have time to educate you so make use of the resource I recommended earlier. I don't know what you studied but a little knowledge of comparative economics would do you some good too. And please leave the word morality out when it comes to your obsession with the west because am afraid this level of western influence on you would make you sell your own kind as slaves if slavery was brought back. A Russian or Chinese bullet is worse than a Western bullet according to your logic right?
I am not a ideologue but a very pragmatic man. I love pragmatic principled people. I am very unkind to men like you who want to play Whataboutism on issue that clear cut and are moral issues. You see dictator lovers and communists are kings of gaslighting. You ask them why there is disease, hunger and thirst in their country and they say you know that "ogre Imperialism ate our progress". The boogieman, the man behind the curtain the marionette has to be blamed for your own failures.
Here we have a country that without provocation attacks another and decides that they want to colonize this country in year 2022. everyone and their mother tries to reason with the aggressor but then folks like you have to blame Americans and West. You do not blame your fellow communist Tankie Vladimir Putin
It would serve you well if you first read what I said way earlier on this thread. I don't see issues from narrow lenses but a wider view. Let me say to you for the record that Russia invading Ukraine is wrong and should be condemned. Secondly everyone who is pragmatic ( not you) should be able to see this for what it is, a geopolitical war between US/ Nato vs Russia and any other country challenging the western alliance. Just take some time and watch Australian channels and all they are shouting about is China. You don't have to be a genius to see the bigger picture. Probably you don't like to hear comparisons but I tell you don't justify one evil while condemning another if you are genuine. Don't provide cover for evil regardless of who perpetuates it. As I said earlier to quote that guy in the movie Lord of War...A bullet from a boy is just as effective as a grown man. The west killing doesnt come with flowers while the Russians do it with stink.. Killing is killing.
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Soros.
You are right you can't change a mind that I'd made up. It is hard but we must argue our point of view so that those who are yet to make their minds can learn from it. Cults and emotional driven ideological views are very hard to counter. You see very well meaning people falling for Jimmy Jones of this world
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Here we have a country that without provocation attacks another and decides that they want to colonize this country in year 2022. everyone and their mother tries to reason with the aggressor but then folks like you have to blame Americans and West. You do not blame your fellow communist Tankie Vladimir Putin
Russia won't colonize Ukraine. That's the American way: occupying other countries for decades. Russia will make sure NATO is off the table for Ukraine as it did in Georgia in 2008. There's been peace and good relations with Georgia since 2008, because it was presided over by Obama in the next 5 years, who was very careful about his relationship with Russia.
Secondly, it's very simplistic to claim this act is without provocation. There are at least two important factors that have precipitated it.
One is the oppression of Ethnic Russians within Ukraine by fascists who associate Russia with Jews. It was made worse by the second and even more important factor (due to the potential danger to precipitate nuclear war) which is the American determination to make Ukraine a NATO state.
NATO has rules about not allowing countries that are not internally unified to join. This made Ukraine plan to attack and reintegrate by force the two quasi-independent areas populated by ethnic Russians using their Neo-nazi groups. This is the reason the Western Leftists I've been following were supportive of Russia's first move to enter Ukraine as a peace-keeping force, precisely to protect these two places from what was threatening to be crimes against humanity against ethnic Russians. They have criticized Putin SEVERELY only after extending this beyond those two areas and going after Ukraine proper. They do this while acknowledging this whole thing has been caused by the US and NATO and was EASILY avoidable. I mirror their views.
Ukraine and Georgia in NATO for Russia means missile bases right at the border. It gives Americans a first-strike advantage against Russia, which means they can easily be invaded and not be able to deter an attack even via MAD. In addition, any small disputes with neighbours immediately involve the US. Imagine a scenario in which Mexico was making loud plans to enter a pact with China or Russia that would allow them to set up missiles pointing directly at American cities, right at the Southern border! Do you think Washington would allow that in a million years? Do you think they'd care about "the sovereignty of Mexico" in that scenario? It's something like that in Ukraine: So it's simply not accurate to say it's without provocation. There's a very big provocation: the literal threat of invasion and likelihood of their country falling apart.
The Americans kept pushing, reversing Obama's carful policy, because their toxic internal politics literally made up a transparent bs conspiracy about Putin magically making Trump beat Hilary in 2016. This internal environment has made it impossible to have normal diplomatic relations with Russia in the past 5 years. Basically, Trump is the reason for the US beligerance towards both Russia and China.
Like mankind says, war is always the worst thing. Only nuclear war or a straight genocide can be worse. So no one in their right mind thinks war in Ukraine is a great thing. Where we differ is how we're assigning blame, which them leads to differences in how/where we "see" the solution to the current crisis.
Some want to say that because Putin has responded with this invasion, it's all his fault alone and pointing out reasons and context is 'whataboutism'. I say this is both black and white thinking coupled with magical thinking. Wars don't miraculously fall out of the sky, rafiki. :D Anyone interested in peace without caring about reasons for war is just momentarily indulging their own self-righteousness.
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Makofi ya kilo. The guys supporting US/EU are victim of western propaganda.
Russia won't colonize Ukraine. That's the American way: occupying other countries for decades. Russia will make sure NATO is off the table for Ukraine as it did in Georgia in 2008. There's been peace and good relations with Georgia since 2008, because it was presided over by Obama in the next 5 years, who was very careful about his relationship with Russia.
Secondly, it's very simplistic to claim this act is without provocation. There are at least two important factors that have precipitated it.
One is the oppression of Ethnic Russians within Ukraine by fascists who associate Russia with Jews. It was made worse by the second and even more important factor (due to the potential danger to precipitate nuclear war) which is the American determination to make Ukraine a NATO state.
NATO has rules about not allowing countries that are not internally unified to join. This made Ukraine plan to attack and reintegrate by force the two quasi-independent areas populated by ethnic Russians using their Neo-nazi groups. This is the reason the Western Leftists I've been following were supportive of Russia's first move to enter Ukraine as a peace-keeping force, precisely to protect these two places from what was threatening to be crimes against humanity against ethnic Russians. They have criticized Putin SEVERELY only after extending this beyond those two areas and going after Ukraine proper. They do this while acknowledging this whole thing has been caused by the US and NATO and was EASILY avoidable. I mirror their views.
Ukraine and Georgia in NATO for Russia means missile bases right at the border. It gives Americans a first-strike advantage against Russia, which means they can easily be invaded and not be able to deter an attack even via MAD. In addition, any small disputes with neighbours immediately involve the US. Imagine a scenario in which Mexico was making loud plans to enter a pact with China or Russia that would allow them to set up missiles pointing directly at American cities, right at the Southern border! Do you think Washington would allow that in a million years? Do you think they'd care about "the sovereignty of Mexico" in that scenario? It's something like that in Ukraine: So it's simply not accurate to say it's without provocation. There's a very big provocation: the literal threat of invasion and likelihood of their country falling apart.
The Americans kept pushing, reversing Obama's carful policy, because their toxic internal politics literally made up a transparent bs conspiracy about Putin magically making Trump beat Hilary in 2016. This internal environment has made it impossible to have normal diplomatic relations with Russia in the past 5 years. Basically, Trump is the reason for the US beligerance towards both Russia and China.
Like mankind says, war is always the worst thing. Only nuclear war or a straight genocide can be worse. So no one in their right mind thinks war in Ukraine is a great thing. Where we differ is how we're assigning blame, which them leads to differences in how/where we "see" the solution to the current crisis.
Some want to say that because Putin has responded with this invasion, it's all his fault alone and pointing out reasons and context is 'whataboutism'. I say this is both black and white thinking coupled with magical thinking. Wars don't miraculously fall out of the sky, rafiki. :D Anyone interested in peace without caring about reasons for war is just momentarily indulging their own self-righteousness.
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Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border
From CNN's Stephanie Busari, Nimi Princewill and Shama Nasinde
Refugees from many countries, mostly students at Ukrainian universities, are seen at the Medyka pedestrian border crossing, in eastern Poland on February 27. (Wojtek Radwanski/AFP/Getty Images)
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine continues, foreign students attempting to leave the country say they are experiencing racist treatment by Ukrainian security forces and border officials.
One African medical student told CNN that she and other foreigners were ordered off the public transit bus at a checkpoint between Ukraine and Poland border.
They were told to stand aside as the bus drove off with only Ukrainian nationals on board, she says.
Rachel Onyegbule, a Nigerian first-year medical student in Lviv was left stranded at the border town of Shehyni, some 400 miles from Ukraine's capital, Kyiv.
She told CNN: "More than 10 buses came and we were watching everyone leave. We thought after they took all the Ukrainians they would take us, but they told us we had to walk, that there were no more buses.
"They told us we had to walk. It started to rain and we walked 12 hours to get to Shehyni."
"My body was numb from the cold and we haven't slept in about 4 days now. Ukrainians have been prioritized over Africans — men and women — at every point. There's no need for us to ask why. We know why. I just want to get home," Onyegbule told CNN in a telephone call Sunday as she waited in line at the border to cross into Poland.
Onyegbule says she eventually got her exit document stamped on Monday morning around 4.30 a.m. local time.
Read more:
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I am pro-west it is the only group that I can trust won't put me in a gulag for wanting simple freedoms
I'm not anti-West. :D I'm very much pro-West but anti-Imperialism. I'm pro-World peace. The Hegemon has been endangering it with shenanigans it pursues on behalf of not even its own people or 'simple freedoms' but its greedy corporations, KSA, Israel, etc., and their interests. It also stands in the way of building structures that could stop everyone from doing things like what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Instead, it prefers to play King with everyone else . . . yaani dictator, which you guys disavow.:D I'm genuinely scared they would rather destroy the world by driving it into a nuke confrontation with China than be number two.
Unfortunately the author of this thread fails to understand that the conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine par se but two opposing camps with their geopolitical agendas. There is a reason the big countries like China, India and now Brazil are staying neutral. America supported by its staunchest Anglo-Saxon allies Britain, UK and Australia is hell bound on preventing any other country from competing with them. Despite sanctioning Chinese companies and a trade war , Chinese economy grew to overtake the European union at 18 trillion dollars. To anyone doing simple math it becomes obvious US economy is going to be overtaken by China very soon. Without all the sanctions and unfair practices the Russian economy would be bigger than Germany. The mere thought that the US and it's acolytes would entertain that without a fight is obvious. Now we should all support Ukrainian sovereignty but condemn the silly using of the country as a staging ground for a geopolitical war. Am curious to see how countries will align themselves at the UN general assembly later today and how the case will be presented. To the author of this thread, the world shouldn't be a zero sum game of either or. That is arrogance and Bush Jr found out the hard way the same. For a historical perspective Yushenko was sponsored by the west in 04 but by 2010 had to share power with Yanakovich. We might end up with a similar arrangement again. Russians and Ukrainians are like Kikuyu and Meru or Nandi and Kipsigis...very close culture and language.
I agree with most of what you saying. But Russia stands to loose mbig,they are trying to force a GEMA on all slavic countries and in the end they have become so hated by their related tribes.The Polish hate them most followed by other slavic countries and Now Ukraine. Its like Kikuyu(Russia) trying to force Merus(Ukrainians) to be part of them by force. Of course they all share many things in common but like Kikuyu and Meru, Merus are a distinct group and want to remain that way,Now Kikuyus asking Embus(Belarus) to attack Meru too,very funny example. Russia will disintegrate soon watch this space. They have been now fully abandoned by slavic family.
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Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border
From CNN's Stephanie Busari, Nimi Princewill and Shama Nasinde
Refugees from many countries, mostly students at Ukrainian universities, are seen at the Medyka pedestrian border crossing, in eastern Poland on February 27. (Wojtek Radwanski/AFP/Getty Images)
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine continues, foreign students attempting to leave the country say they are experiencing racist treatment by Ukrainian security forces and border officials.
One African medical student told CNN that she and other foreigners were ordered off the public transit bus at a checkpoint between Ukraine and Poland border.
They were told to stand aside as the bus drove off with only Ukrainian nationals on board, she says.
Rachel Onyegbule, a Nigerian first-year medical student in Lviv was left stranded at the border town of Shehyni, some 400 miles from Ukraine's capital, Kyiv.
She told CNN: "More than 10 buses came and we were watching everyone leave. We thought after they took all the Ukrainians they would take us, but they told us we had to walk, that there were no more buses.
"They told us we had to walk. It started to rain and we walked 12 hours to get to Shehyni."
"My body was numb from the cold and we haven't slept in about 4 days now. Ukrainians have been prioritized over Africans — men and women — at every point. There's no need for us to ask why. We know why. I just want to get home," Onyegbule told CNN in a telephone call Sunday as she waited in line at the border to cross into Poland.
Onyegbule says she eventually got her exit document stamped on Monday morning around 4.30 a.m. local time.
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Sorry Noway Russia is to blame FULL STOP.
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Very true. See how Nowayhaha and Pundit busy cheering Putin. The man will be responsible for deaths of thousands of people and people are still showing sympathy to him.
When the US invaded Saddam Hussein's Iraq, I stood by the Iraqis and not Saddam Hussein. It has nothing to do with me being a Western stooge. That war changed the dynamics of the Middle East for the worse.
Putin will change Europe for the worse and anyone thinking Russia will go back to business as usual after conquering Ukraine is dreaming. The rest of Europe will arm itself to the teeth. Not sure if Russia will be able to win this contest as its economy is limited compared to the rest of Europe.
Guru, One thing I have learnt is that I will never change anyone's mind about anything. In their own world, they believe what they are saying or doing is right. That s why we have Trumps, Putins,etc. Ever wondered, how did Jim Jones take normal functioning people all the way to Guyana, make them drink poison, and believed that they will go straight to heaven. Mental illness is real!!!
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This is the difference
53 minutes ago
Foreign Students Studying in Russia Face No Disruption in Scholarships
Foreign students studying in Russia receive their scholarships and allowances via the national payment system and face no sanction-related disruptions, the Russian Ministry of Science and Higher Education said on Tuesday.
"All scholarships are paid to Mir payment cards regardless of the issuing bank. There are no problems related to the use of Mir cards in Russia," the ministry said on Telegram.
The ministry added that the cards of international payment systems issued by foreign banks operate in Russia according to the rules of payment systems, both for payment in stores and for cash withdrawals at ATMs, taking into account currency conversion rates.
Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border
From CNN's Stephanie Busari, Nimi Princewill and Shama Nasinde
Refugees from many countries, mostly students at Ukrainian universities, are seen at the Medyka pedestrian border crossing, in eastern Poland on February 27. (Wojtek Radwanski/AFP/Getty Images)
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine continues, foreign students attempting to leave the country say they are experiencing racist treatment by Ukrainian security forces and border officials.
One African medical student told CNN that she and other foreigners were ordered off the public transit bus at a checkpoint between Ukraine and Poland border.
They were told to stand aside as the bus drove off with only Ukrainian nationals on board, she says.
Rachel Onyegbule, a Nigerian first-year medical student in Lviv was left stranded at the border town of Shehyni, some 400 miles from Ukraine's capital, Kyiv.
She told CNN: "More than 10 buses came and we were watching everyone leave. We thought after they took all the Ukrainians they would take us, but they told us we had to walk, that there were no more buses.
"They told us we had to walk. It started to rain and we walked 12 hours to get to Shehyni."
"My body was numb from the cold and we haven't slept in about 4 days now. Ukrainians have been prioritized over Africans — men and women — at every point. There's no need for us to ask why. We know why. I just want to get home," Onyegbule told CNN in a telephone call Sunday as she waited in line at the border to cross into Poland.
Onyegbule says she eventually got her exit document stamped on Monday morning around 4.30 a.m. local time.
Read more:
Sorry Noway Russia is to blame FULL STOP.
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Foreign students fleeing Ukraine say they face segregation, racism at border
From CNN's Stephanie Busari, Nimi Princewill and Shama Nasinde
Refugees from many countries, mostly students at Ukrainian universities, are seen at the Medyka pedestrian border crossing, in eastern Poland on February 27. (Wojtek Radwanski/AFP/Getty Images)
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine continues, foreign students attempting to leave the country say they are experiencing racist treatment by Ukrainian security forces and border officials.
One African medical student told CNN that she and other foreigners were ordered off the public transit bus at a checkpoint between Ukraine and Poland border.
They were told to stand aside as the bus drove off with only Ukrainian nationals on board, she says.
Rachel Onyegbule, a Nigerian first-year medical student in Lviv was left stranded at the border town of Shehyni, some 400 miles from Ukraine's capital, Kyiv.
She told CNN: "More than 10 buses came and we were watching everyone leave. We thought after they took all the Ukrainians they would take us, but they told us we had to walk, that there were no more buses.
"They told us we had to walk. It started to rain and we walked 12 hours to get to Shehyni."
"My body was numb from the cold and we haven't slept in about 4 days now. Ukrainians have been prioritized over Africans — men and women — at every point. There's no need for us to ask why. We know why. I just want to get home," Onyegbule told CNN in a telephone call Sunday as she waited in line at the border to cross into Poland.
Onyegbule says she eventually got her exit document stamped on Monday morning around 4.30 a.m. local time.
Read more:
Here's more including our own Kenyan students . For those preaching western morality what say you? Watch from around minute 17 onwards
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They didnt even know they were going to war??
I have seen a few clips of these young lads. It's a against the law to film them like this. Also, the sheer incompetence of their military aside, it should also be criminal to place kids like this so casually in harms way(even though they are technically the aggressor). There was a clip RVHH shared where the convoy had been mowed down; I can't shake the image of a teddy bear that was among the personal items found in one of the tanks.
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Russian army is drafted. That why the morale is not high. Same thing in China. You are drafted for 4 or 2 years in China. So they have a high turnover meaning very few people stick around to be trained properly plus it is expensive to have a 25% turnover rate. In 🇺🇸 I think you serve 6 years at a minimum.
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They didnt even know they were going to war??
I have seen a few clips of these young lads. It's a against the law to film them like this. Also, the sheer incompetence of their military aside, it should also be criminal to place kids like this so casually in harms way(even though they are technically the aggressor). There was a clip RVHH shared where the convoy had been mowed down; I can't shake the image of a teddy bear that was among the personal items found in one of the tanks.
Yap its against the law. Had they not stated their names it woulda been OK.
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Russian army is drafted. That why the morale is not high. Same thing in China. You are drafted for 4 or 2 years in China. So they have a high turnover meaning very few people stick around to be trained properly plus it is expensive to have a 25% turnover rate. In 🇺🇸 I think you serve 6 years at a minimum.
Morale will also be low because they don't really have a clear objective of the war. They know they are against almost the whole world. Many dont want to become sitting ducks in Ukraine, so they could rather surrender and be in Ukraine.
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Why am I in the same camp with with Punda & Noway? :D
Your list is erroneous sir.
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Pakistan now back to Ukrainian camp after Imran Khan impeached for visiting Moscow :D
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Pakistan now back to Ukrainian camp after Imran Khan impeached for visiting Moscow :D
Those are unverified claims. According to CNN. Pakistan is not that important to the Ukraine crisis.
In an address to the nation Friday night, Khan repeated unverified claims the vote of no confidence was the result of a "foreign conspiracy" connected to the United States.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/09/asia/imran-khan-voted-out-pakistan-prime-minister-intl-hnk/index.html
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Pakistan now back to Ukrainian camp after Imran Khan impeached for visiting Moscow :D
Those are unverified claims. According to CNN. Pakistan is not that important to the Ukraine crisis.
In an address to the nation Friday night, Khan repeated unverified claims the vote of no confidence was the result of a "foreign conspiracy" connected to the United States.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/09/asia/imran-khan-voted-out-pakistan-prime-minister-intl-hnk/index.html
Maybe not but aftree India started buying oil from Russia and suppoerting China, Pakistan may want to be seen as an ally
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Njuri you are so naive on Geopolitics. India and Now Pakistan is drifting out of sphere of influence of the Western Govern.
Pakistan now back to Ukrainian camp after Imran Khan impeached for visiting Moscow :D
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Pakistan is not that important to the Ukraine crisis.
Yep! India is far more important. They're struggling because they're equally allied to both Russia and the West, and have a complicated relationship with China which is hated by Indians so much, which in turn has its own complicated relationship with both Russia and the West. The only two real powers to watch out for in Asia are China and India. Pakistan . . . is small potatoes, their nukes notwithstanding.
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I cant remember a time since ww2 when so many innocent were killed just for being who they are. Maybe Rwanda but Rwanda was internal. This is an army!!!