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Title: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Dear Mami on February 28, 2022, 07:43:49 AM
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2022/02/27/exp-gps-0227-kenyas-kimani-on-ukraine.cnn

On Fareed's show
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 08:18:15 AM
Busy creating powerful enemies for kenya - clearly not his brief.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Dear Mami on February 28, 2022, 08:31:50 AM
Well, he's become famous. For sure he won't be lacking a good job somewhere in international relations. But I'm surprised the govt is just letting him do this. Do they not care? No one has told him, "Tuliza boli, bana, do what Africans are doing"??
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 28, 2022, 09:40:56 AM
He is seems to be saying “come on man, let’s respect our own rules”. Tame, neutral and hard to fault.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 09:50:01 AM
Good speech. Where are you seeing him creating enemies Pundit? Are you in ever warmongering mode by default?
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 09:51:19 AM
The last bit of the interview he talks sense. He talks of Multilaerism and indicates how U.S. bypassing U.N. in the previous years and staging war is a mistake.
I think he was given tete a tete after the first sitting.
Having said that Kimani is not an ambassodor he did War Studies. This is a man who should be in Military college teaching War games.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 09:57:47 AM
The last bit of the interview he talks sense. He talks of Multilaerism and indicates how U.S. bypassing U.N. in the previous years and staging war is a mistake.
I think he was given tete a tete after the first sitting.
Having said that Kimani is not an ambassodor he did War Studies. This is a man who should be in Military college teaching War games.

Are you having problem with Kimani the man or what he say? Can you decide
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 10:08:51 AM
He is not qualified to be Amb of Kenya in U.N. hence the blunders which he is currently trying to Sanitize.
That mistake can cost Kenya dearly. U.A.E. also went neutral recently to avoid costs and U.A.E. is astronger Western Ally than Kenya.
He was rewarded that post for writing BBI which No 1 was failure and No 2 wanted to destroy our Constituion. and you want us to apploud him ?

The last bit of the interview he talks sense. He talks of Multilaerism and indicates how U.S. bypassing U.N. in the previous years and staging war is a mistake.
I think he was given tete a tete after the first sitting.
Having said that Kimani is not an ambassodor he did War Studies. This is a man who should be in Military college teaching War games.

Are you having problem with Kimani the man or what he say? Can you decide
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
He is not qualified to be Amb of Kenya in U.N. hence the blunders which he is currently trying to Sanitize.
That mistake can cost Kenya dearly. U.A.E. also went neutral recently to avoid costs and U.A.E. is astronger Western Ally than Kenya.
He was rewarded that post for writing BBI which No 1 was failure and No 2 wanted to destroy our Constituion. and you want us to apploud him ?

The last bit of the interview he talks sense. He talks of Multilaerism and indicates how U.S. bypassing U.N. in the previous years and staging war is a mistake.
I think he was given tete a tete after the first sitting.
Having said that Kimani is not an ambassodor he did War Studies. This is a man who should be in Military college teaching War games.

Are you having problem with Kimani the man or what he say? Can you decide

Your playing ignorant again. Kimani was already ambassador by the time BBI was being written. You can say anything else but dont expose ignorance.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 10:37:36 AM

He is not qualified to be an Amb . Simple and clear .He was in UNEP but which are his qualifications ?
Yes I retariate he was rewarded to be Amb in U.N. as a reward for BBI . Uhuru was very categorical in this.
He is not qualified to be Amb of Kenya in U.N. hence the blunders which he is currently trying to Sanitize.
That mistake can cost Kenya dearly. U.A.E. also went neutral recently to avoid costs and U.A.E. is astronger Western Ally than Kenya.
He was rewarded that post for writing BBI which No 1 was failure and No 2 wanted to destroy our Constituion. and you want us to apploud him ?

The last bit of the interview he talks sense. He talks of Multilaerism and indicates how U.S. bypassing U.N. in the previous years and staging war is a mistake.
I think he was given tete a tete after the first sitting.
Having said that Kimani is not an ambassodor he did War Studies. This is a man who should be in Military college teaching War games.

Are you having problem with Kimani the man or what he say? Can you decide

Your playing ignorant again. Kimani was already ambassador by the time BBI was being written. You can say anything else but dont expose ignorance.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
Kenya has many ambassadors and they all make major statement wherever. Your focus on Martin Kimani misplaced. Very few career ambassadors serve Kenya. Most are political. Do you forget Sunkuli was Kenya ambassador to China?
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 11:04:34 AM

So you finally agree he is as Incompitent as Sunkuli was as an Amb.

Kenya has many ambassadors and they all make major statement wherever. Your focus on Martin Kimani misplaced. Very few career ambassadors serve Kenya. Most are political. Do you forget Sunkuli was Kenya ambassador to China?
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 11:30:08 AM

So you finally agree he is as Incompitent as Sunkuli was as an Amb.

Kenya has many ambassadors and they all make major statement wherever. Your focus on Martin Kimani misplaced. Very few career ambassadors serve Kenya. Most are political. Do you forget Sunkuli was Kenya ambassador to China?

When did Sunkuli address UN security Council? Apples - oranges.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: RV Pundit on February 28, 2022, 11:41:50 AM
This is big boys fight..Kenya should simply shut up.. superpowers are talking..who can listen to lectures from a third world country that is mirred in sleaze and graft.Mambo ya Ukraine wachi ma superpowers serikali itafutie kimani kazi ingine
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on February 28, 2022, 11:48:02 AM
This is big boys fight..Kenya should simply shut up.. superpowers are talking..who can listen to lectures from a third world country that is mirred in sleaze and graft.Mambo ya Ukraine wachi ma superpowers serikali itafutie kimani kazi ingine

Kimani video gone viral. If Kenya so small then just ignore.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 28, 2022, 11:56:01 AM

Lots of Viral videos in youtube twitter and Instagram but they amount to nothing .

This is big boys fight..Kenya should simply shut up.. superpowers are talking..who can listen to lectures from a third world country that is mirred in sleaze and graft.Mambo ya Ukraine wachi ma superpowers serikali itafutie kimani kazi ingine

Kimani video gone viral. If Kenya so small then just ignore.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Georgesoros on February 28, 2022, 04:58:55 PM
He is seems to be saying “come on man, let’s respect our own rules”. Tame, neutral and hard to fault.

A closer look, Its the same thing happening with the Republican party. It doesn't want to follow laws and regulations adopted by previous administrations. Russia is just following their lead.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Georgesoros on February 28, 2022, 05:01:40 PM
Well, he's become famous. For sure he won't be lacking a good job somewhere in international relations. But I'm surprised the govt is just letting him do this. Do they not care? No one has told him, "Tuliza boli, bana, do what Africans are doing"??

A tiger has to roar in order to be heard. He is doing this for Kenya. We need a S. Korea business environment so youth can be employed.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Dear Mami on February 28, 2022, 05:06:26 PM
He is seems to be saying “come on man, let’s respect our own rules”. Tame, neutral and hard to fault.

A closer look, Its the same thing happening with the Republican party. It doesn't want to follow laws and regulations adopted by previous administrations. Russia is just following their lead.
No need to think too deep :D There is NO American Party that has not grossly violated International Law when in power. Who can forget Syria and Libya? Was that a Rethug admin? Nope! In fact, Trump remains the ONLY modern American President still living who hasn't launched a war somewhere. He could've (and wanted to!) in Iran but was stopped. Of course, he did things likely far more damaging, which is setting the current trajectory for confrontation with China at some point and allowing Democrats to goad him into throwing away Obama's carefully managed relationship with Russia over the Russiagate rubbish. Both of those are potentially the most dangerous things, even more than the wars his predecessors so cavalierly launched against helpless, un-nuked Third-Worlders.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Dear Mami on February 28, 2022, 05:08:52 PM
Well, he's become famous. For sure he won't be lacking a good job somewhere in international relations. But I'm surprised the govt is just letting him do this. Do they not care? No one has told him, "Tuliza boli, bana, do what Africans are doing"??

A tiger has to roar in order to be heard. He is doing this for Kenya. We need a S. Korea business environment so youth can be employed.
Kenya is not even a Bob cat in this game, my friend. Ati Tiger?  :D We need to keep to our lane and benefit our people instead of venturing into this stuff that even Bazungu are being careful around.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Fairandbalanced on February 28, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
Russia is fucked and Kimani is on the right side of history.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 28, 2022, 05:21:39 PM
He is seems to be saying “come on man, let’s respect our own rules”. Tame, neutral and hard to fault.

A closer look, Its the same thing happening with the Republican party. It doesn't want to follow laws and regulations adopted by previous administrations. Russia is just following their lead.

To an extent, yes.  The GOP has over the last 2 decades had this posture of "do as we say, not as we do".  It's gotten more extreme recently.  The Putin/GOP bromance was unimaginable, just a few years back, though.  It became possible with the Mango Mussolini and his amoral world view.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Georgesoros on February 28, 2022, 06:39:39 PM
Russia is fucked and Kimani is on the right side of history.

Absolutely..
Kenya showed real leadersip in this. KUDOS.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 28, 2022, 10:09:01 PM
When he took up the position as UNSC, he said
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We will be a bold voice for Kenya, Africa, and all peoples yearning for peace and security

Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on March 01, 2022, 10:06:00 AM
I think its smart Kenya took a side and most likely the winning side,Kenya is now above other African peers but should world war start then Kenya will be the first African country to be nuked. Am sure Putin has tallied his nukes and certainly Kenyan one is reserved.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on March 01, 2022, 12:03:08 PM
If Kenya is nuked the world is nuked. Standing up to the bully no easy task but somebody gotta do it.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 01, 2022, 12:17:05 PM
I think its smart Kenya took a side and most likely the winning side,Kenya is now above other African peers but should world war start then Kenya will be the first African country to be nuked. Am sure Putin has tallied his nukes and certainly Kenyan one is reserved.
I think it’s a neutral position.  He is forceful about it.  But it’s neutral.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 12:17:57 PM
Why nuke Kenya , while it easier to do what they did in Mali.
Uhuru regime is just lucky he is on his way out and also Kenyans are not militant. There will be alot of Russian backed operations in Africa the coming decade.


I think its smart Kenya took a side and most likely the winning side,Kenya is now above other African peers but should world war start then Kenya will be the first African country to be nuked. Am sure Putin has tallied his nukes and certainly Kenyan one is reserved.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 12:19:08 PM

So where were you in Iraqis war, Libya war , Afghanistan and Syria war ? Who was the bully ?

If Kenya is nuked the world is nuked. Standing up to the bully no easy task but somebody gotta do it.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: GeeMail on March 01, 2022, 12:30:10 PM
Nothing is that straight. Many complex issues of tribe, religion, economics, politics. ....
Iraq - Different bullies at different times. Saddam bully Kuwait, he bully his own people, then Uncle Sam bully him.
Libya - Qaddafi bully his people, big oil companies bully him, Uncle Sam bully him.
Afghanistan - Russia bully Afghans, Afghans bully Russia, Russia and Uncle Sam bully each other, Afghanistan bully itself.
Syria - Assad bully rebels, rebels bully Assad, both acquire foreign masters (Assad Russia, rebels America). Checkmate up to now. Assad play queen, Syrians played pawns by foreign powers.

Ukraine not Putin's own war. He's front for oligarchs. NATO also not own war but proxy for Uncle Sam. Many complex interests even China watching with interest because CCP have fingers in Taiwan itching to go. North Korea also watching they want to see what to do with the south.
Title: Re: Kimani continues his Russian critique on CNN
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 01, 2022, 12:33:55 PM

You see , you mind is mixed up. In all those wars there is a constant . All are illegal as they were not sanctioned by UNSC.


Nothing is that straight. Many complex issues of tribe, religion, economics, politics. ....
Iraq - Different bullies at different times. Saddam bully Kuwait, he bully his own people, then Uncle Sam bully him.
Libya - Qaddafi bully his people, big oil companies bully him, Uncle Sam bully him.
Afghanistan - Russia bully Afghans, Afghans bully Russia, Russia and Uncle Sam bully each other, Afghanistan bully itself.
Syria - Assad bully rebels, rebels bully Assad, both acquire foreign masters (Assad Russia, rebels America). Checkmate up to now. Assad play queen, Syrians played pawns by foreign powers.

Ukraine not Putin's own war. He's front for oligarchs. NATO also not own war but proxy for Uncle Sam. Many complex interests even China watching with interest because CCP have fingers in Taiwan itching to go. North Korea also watching they want to see what to do with the south.