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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on February 12, 2022, 09:56:14 PM
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Few random observation.Few years ago it was Jameson but now it's Jack Daniels and Gilbeys for the broke or girls buying themselves.Everything remain constant.. except less n less cigarette smoking..shisha yes but generally smoking is no longer cool.Where guys use to come dressed with dirty jeans n t-shirts..now everyone is dressing for the party..women likely not wear jeans completely.
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Kenya continue to eschew clubs like old F1 or F2 preferring lounges where drinking is the main activity..not dancing like many countries.The bar remain a place to watch sports and sit browsing the internet.Amongst Kikuyu there is resurgence of muratina drinking everywhere..where they use to take Balozi to promote Tabitha it's likely they will have muratina 20 litres now under the seats.They complain of not getting regular supply of Balozi
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Like cigarette there is less n less chewing of khat.The food scene has changed slightly..lots of pork now almost everywhere.. poorly prepped so I won't recommend unless you know not any better
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Generally the age disparity remain..it bar scene of monied 30 and 40yrs men with college girls of early 20s.The women in btw are busy rearing their children.Unlike developed countries dating scene remain strongly linked to your income levels..so you can say it's generally middle class men entertaining poor naive college girls and their boyfriend's betting and drinking draft keg beer Once the girls are paged they are out.Men are out once they meet their post teen 18yrs old in same lounges
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Generally Kenyans party hard.. likely to spend half their income buying Jack Daniels..the poor have been relegated to drinking keg beer.There is no more old people bars..it's rare to find such bars with old barmaid and old TV.
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Music scene has changed..where you use to listen to American and local genres ...it's now local and African.. Nigeria, Tanzania, south Africa.Its very unlikely anybody will play American music or international music.International now is Nigeria..Kenya still like genge and old school Kenya music...e sir is now old school classic.
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Sports has changed..now people support teams based on stakes they placed.. betting is big but not as big as sportpesa era...they are gazillion of betting companies but none has yet to reach sportpesa sure bet days.They either have tiny jackpot or are not prompt.I don't bet myself so don't the details
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Some things will never change though.. almost at 3am they will play reggae and or rhumba...it's surest sign that you need to go home
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Finally don't invest in bars or lounges they are now fad or fashion items with little shelf life and zero loyalty.The herd crowd in latest lounge until new one comes up leaving in it's wake destruction...my bar in konoin we drunk on it for years...my dad started drinking in it in 1969.The bar owner is still alive but old now...that kind of loyalty you cannot get in this generation...who wants to Instagram everything.Only K 1 and Sabina joy have survived in Nairobi
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Very sad. In retrospect when you look at it. People enjoying bar life are the ones who got absorbed by wotkforce during Kibaki era.
Uhuru really messed up the youth.
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Thanks for updating some of us in the US. Every time we call or call someone to send them money, of course, they are in a noisy place, likely a lounge. If we happen to send them kitu kidogo and call them back in two hours or so, they are usually tipsy, incoherent, or the phone is switched off. Sad to say, but my younger brother died a few years ago of cirrhosis of drinking bottles of Gilbeys every night! I suspect folks in Kenya, because of the anemic economy, spend their time in bars or loitering. When you fix a functioning 24-hour economy where people work most of the time, alcohol consumption may reduce because people need to be sober to work and drive around. The sobriety of 12 hours a day (Working hours) and a little bit of alcohol/bars regulation can easily save a few alcoholics from reaching tipping points.
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Finally don't invest in bars or lounges they are now fad or fashion items with little shelf life and zero loyalty.The herd crowd in latest lounge until new one comes up leaving in it's wake destruction...my bar in konoin we drunk on it for years...my dad started drinking in it in 1969.The bar owner is still alive but old now...that kind of loyalty you cannot get in this generation...who wants to Instagram everything.Only K 1 and Sabina joy have survived in Nairobi
The young urban middle class in Nairobi all believe that they will get rich on instagram, youtube and tiktok. That they will get rich by making nothing. They all call themselves content creators now. Free trips, pictures and free meals will stop working for them after they hit 40.
Anyway, what do these middle class men do for a living? where is their cash coming from? and what would you say you would need to make to have a middle class life in Nairobi?
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90% of what posted true.....but Kenyans don't party hard infact Kenya really lags behind alcohol is expensive compared to per capita GDP. Southern Africa parties hard all of them countries. Kenyans think themselves as party going but even TZ and UG outdo us
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Yes njuri we don't drink as much as rest of Africa.
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(1) Nowadays,Middle class people just drink and fuck in parking lots or open spaces..in tinted cars...You will find this even outside clubs happening...lots of canned beer being sold since covid.
(2) For the poor people, you always hear of a funeral in the village every two weeks because there are wine and spirits shops to sell you spirits (makali) with high alcohol content than keg..chiefs,kanju n police always collect moeny from these wines and spirits selling poisonous cheap liqour,nobody gives a fuck....after drinking these makali for 2-3 years, you start vomiting blood at times,start collapsing,never ending cold,then TB you are dead.
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If you see people drinking in the parking they are either chewing khat or drinking muratina...with few decoys.Them girls remain cheap n plentiful in Kenya as long as you have money
(1) Nowadays,Middle class people just drink and fuck in parking lots or open spaces..in tinted cars...You will find this even outside clubs happening...lots of canned beer being sold since covid.
(2) For the poor people, you always hear of a funeral in the village every two weeks because there are wine and spirits shops to sell you spirits (makali) with high alcohol content than keg..chiefs,kanju n police always collect moeny from these wines and spirits selling poisonous cheap liqour,nobody gives a fuck....after drinking these makali for 2-3 years, you start vomiting blood at times,start collapsing,never ending cold,then TB you are dead.
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If you see people drinking in the parking they are either chewing khat or drinking muratina...with few decoys.Them girls remain cheap n plentiful in Kenya as long as you have money(1) Nowadays,Middle class people just drink and fuck in parking lots or open spaces..in tinted cars...You will find this even outside clubs happening...lots of canned beer being sold since covid.
(2) For the poor people, you always hear of a funeral in the village every two weeks because there are wine and spirits shops to sell you spirits (makali) with high alcohol content than keg..chiefs,kanju n police always collect moeny from these wines and spirits selling poisonous cheap liqour,nobody gives a fuck....after drinking these makali for 2-3 years, you start vomiting blood at times,start collapsing,never ending cold,then TB you are dead.
Nope githunguri is right middle class drink and fcuk in parking lot. Its not just Miraa chewers, however Miraa chewers started this form of urban lifestyle but sex wasn't involved they just chewed all night,started in Meru and northern Kenya before spreading to rest of Kenya Urban areas during covid,I bet economy is very hard Middle class in Kenya is a mirage beers in Kenya overly expensive so lots prefer to buy from liquor stores and save money by chilling in the cars,ladies also appear to have fallen for this trend its cheap liquor and cheap sex no need to pay accomodation fees. Young girls become so cheap nowadays.
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Kenyans over 35, which are not many, look like they will save the country down the road. On the other hand, young folks under 30 are reckless and heading to destruction, significantly if something big doesn't change. Chasing quick, easy money in the middle of alcohol, betting, drugs, and prostitution is a major disaster in the making. With a sizeable reckless population, it is generally hard to lift its economy! I watch raw loyalty tests in Kenya and it seems everyone has mipango ya kando; meaning if you are married, or have a girlfriend, and live in Kenya 9 of 10 your woman is nailed hard by others. Also, men have two or three women among other prostitutes they lay after fompe. A different Kenya we don't recognize at all!
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It's income disparity forcing girls to date men for money..its poverty.We need to fix drugs and betting..also fear of HIV is now almost gone as it's no longer a death sentence
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It's income disparity forcing girls to date men for money..its poverty.We need to fix drugs and betting..also fear of HIV is now almost gone as it's no longer a death sentence
Yes, I think many young people are having sex for money because of anemic economy. If economy is thriving, folks tend to revert to moral-driven relationships. The few men with money, especially the old men, must be pounding girls and people's wives senseless.
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It's income disparity forcing girls to date men for money..its poverty.We need to fix drugs and betting..also fear of HIV is now almost gone as it's no longer a death sentence
Yes, I think many young people are having sex for money because of anemic economy. If economy is thriving, folks tend to revert to moral-driven relationships. The few men with money, especially the old men, must be pounding girls and people's wives senseless.
This is the case I know of a mzee in his late 60s worked for a bank now he retired has money separated from wife,his main work is getting new young girls on a daily basis driving them with his subaru to his ranch and hammering the young ladies properly for money. Quite sad. At end of day those young girls have boyfriends who doesn't have a clue.
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Its time to lift ban on traditional alcohol and overall lower the taxes on alcohol. The entire alcohol industry is increasingly becoming informal . Its about time we encouraged traditional brews as serious cottage industry that can create employment and also pay taxes.
On another note Keroche is having problems because they invested in a brewery instead of a distillery. They made money in spirits , brewery burnished their reputation but might have had negative financial impact on their business. Kegging would have been another option since they're already addressing the same market with spirits (my humble opinion).
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Yes I think generally the future should be micro-processing - really no need to import beer from nairobi to turkana - when a small distillery in turkana - can produce their beer there. Gov aka KRA wont like it - more work for them.
We need to promote small breweries or distilleries - than produce modern clean beer - operating in small locale - like a small brewery every county.
Its time to lift ban on traditional alcohol and overall lower the taxes on alcohol. The entire alcohol industry is increasingly becoming informal . Its about time we encouraged traditional brews as serious cottage industry that can create employment and also pay taxes.
On another note Keroche is having problems because they invested in a brewery instead of a distillery. They made money in spirits , brewery burnished their reputation but might have had negative financial impact on their business. Kegging would have been another option since they're already addressing the same market with spirits (my humble opinion).
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Gilbeys uptake has been fueled by the economic fortunes of the sponsors being devastated by ufool's corona mismanagement. The clubs are making a killing with 100% margin on the shiet. This shiet is potent than other derided brands-works well for idling girls and sponsors/'brokers' who have nothing to do apart from chasing a deal which can be for months.
RVHH assertion that the over 35s are messiahs is a lie. They are the ones chasing the girls, frustrations from their empowered women, no social mobility due to a contracting economy, dead assets, piling debts.
Africa has an opportunity in cottage industries/hasora enterprises especially with the lags in global supply chain in nearly all the products. Beer, chang'aa, clothes, shoes, paper name it.
Allan Namu has an interesting take on the inflation of alcohol prices.
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You nailed it as always. Covid has wrecked many middle class. The debt pile up, the dead mortgages, dead business has wrecked the floating middle class. The poor at least had no compunction and left for rural abodes.
No the floating middle class are drinking Gilbeys msingas - with their beaten girlfriends.
Yes the broken supply chain would have been opportunity if we had been prepared.
Gilbeys uptake has been fueled by the economic fortunes of the sponsors being devastated by ufool's corona mismanagement. The clubs are making a killing with 100% margin on the shiet. This shiet is potent than other derided brands-works well for idling girls and sponsors/'brokers' who have nothing to do apart from chasing a deal which can be for months.
RVHH assertion that the over 35s are messiahs is a lie. They are the ones chasing the girls, frustrations from their empowered women, no social mobility due to a contracting economy, dead assets, piling debts.
Africa has an opportunity in cottage industries/hasora enterprises especially with the lags in global supply chain in nearly all the products. Beer, chang'aa, clothes, shoes, paper name it.
Allan Namu has an interesting take on the inflation of alcohol prices.