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Title: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 27, 2021, 02:12:52 PM

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-12-27-raila-edges-out-ruto-as-most-popular-presidential-candidate-in-new-poll/
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on December 27, 2021, 02:17:21 PM

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-12-27-raila-edges-out-ruto-as-most-popular-presidential-candidate-in-new-poll/
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Yes I knew thats where it was heading to. I have never supported any polls. During Kibakis time they tried selling this narrative to GEMA to try and weaken outlr resolve for the 2007 elections lakini wapi. We rubbed their noses on the ground
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 27, 2021, 02:54:00 PM
I believe in polls to some extend - I normally make MOASS because I think they dont do a proper job sampling - most polls are credible however we have a few obvious ones Angel Ambitho from Bondo and the Odingas are doing her thing.

If all polls were to show similar trend - then
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 27, 2021, 03:22:06 PM
Kenyan opinion polls have never in Kenyan history predicted a correct Presidential poll outcome. This is a fact. Believe them at your own peril.


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-12-27-raila-edges-out-ruto-as-most-popular-presidential-candidate-in-new-poll/
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Yes I knew thats where it was heading to. I have never supported any polls. During Kibakis time they tried selling this narrative to GEMA to try and weaken outlr resolve for the 2007 elections lakini wapi. We rubbed their noses on the ground
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: GeeMail on December 27, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
Should Ambitho worry about security?
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 27, 2021, 05:01:42 PM
No. She is known for her games.

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Should Ambitho worry about security?
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on December 27, 2021, 05:30:08 PM
This is just the beginning. By June 2022 opinion polls it wil be baba 51 Ruto 46% its really laughable the projection always is predictable. Generally Mlima people care less about the opinion polls,apo kwa debe ndio mtajua hamjui.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: GeeMail on December 27, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
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Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 27, 2021, 09:14:22 PM
This is just the beginning. By June 2022 opinion polls it wil be baba 51 Ruto 46% its really laughable the projection always is predictable. Generally Mlima people care less about the opinion polls,apo kwa debe ndio mtajua hamjui.

  Njuri don't let the secret out.  Pundit will crucify you for disagreeing with polls when we all know don't work especially in poor countries where mostly urban people even in those small towns in the villages tend to be the ones reached by pollsters.  The majority rural folks then come out and vote overwhelmingly against the predictions and that is where chaos start because a perception that had been created justifies cries of rigging just as it happened in 2007.I  fear the same script will be attempted against the DP too. Even Miguna knows 07 was a fluke.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: GeeMail on December 27, 2021, 09:24:09 PM
Kenya is special land. Losers became president by fluke or crook and winners demonized to death.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 28, 2021, 03:33:19 AM
The kikuyu idiots have failed to ask themselves the most important question, “ why am I hustling or calling myself a hustler?” If you have an answer to this question, you can never vote for someone like Ruto. For those of us who were lucky to migrate to the west where things work as they are supposed to, we do not hustle, once you get an education, learn a skill or start a business, the rewards are endless. I know some of you look down on truck drivers, you only wish you can make what truck drivers are making right now with supply chain issues and shortages. I have a friend who owns three semis, he just got a contract for 80k to only transport for this one company exclusively for two months, let me know what kind of business in Kenya except thievery where you can make such dough.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: patel on December 28, 2021, 04:17:25 AM

Kikuyu 'idiots' know they are hustling because kenyatta stole their land. They are fully aware kenyatta and his cronies stole the million acre settlement scheme money. There are also aware how kenyatta criminal enterprise continues to rob them especially in dairy farming....
The kikuyu idiots have failed to ask themselves the most important question, “ why am I hustling or calling myself a hustler?” If you have an answer to this question, you can never vote for someone like Ruto. For those of us who were lucky to migrate to the west where things work as they are supposed to, we do not hustle, once you get an education, learn a skill or start a business, the rewards are endless. I know some of you look down on truck drivers, you only wish you can make what truck drivers are making right now with supply chain issues and shortages. I have a friend who owns three semis, he just got a contract for 80k to only transport for this one company exclusively for two months, let me know what kind of business in Kenya except thievery where you can make such dough.

Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on December 28, 2021, 07:47:49 AM
This is just the beginning. By June 2022 opinion polls it wil be baba 51 Ruto 46% its really laughable the projection always is predictable. Generally Mlima people care less about the opinion polls,apo kwa debe ndio mtajua hamjui.

  Njuri don't let the secret out.  Pundit will crucify you for disagreeing with polls when we all know don't work especially in poor countries where mostly urban people even in those small towns in the villages tend to be the ones reached by pollsters.  The majority rural folks then come out and vote overwhelmingly against the predictions and that is where chaos start because a perception that had been created justifies cries of rigging just as it happened in 2007.I  fear the same script will be attempted against the DP too. Even Miguna knows 07 was a fluke.
Precisely The rural folks are the ones that come out and overthrow the fake numbers of the pollsters. Can't say more!!
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 28, 2021, 08:07:55 AM
The kikuyu idiots have failed to ask themselves the most important question, “ why am I hustling or calling myself a hustler?” If you have an answer to this question, you can never vote for someone like Ruto. For those of us who were lucky to migrate to the west where things work as they are supposed to, we do not hustle, once you get an education, learn a skill or start a business, the rewards are endless. I know some of you look down on truck drivers, you only wish you can make what truck drivers are making right now with supply chain issues and shortages. I have a friend who owns three semis, he just got a contract for 80k to only transport for this one company exclusively for two months, let me know what kind of business in Kenya except thievery where you can make such dough.
Like any other Kenyans, Kikuyus need Ruto, an ordinary, honest, hard-working man, to lead them to prosperity. They could trust Kibaki or drunkard Uhuru for leadership, with their significant flaws. In that case, then they can afford Ruto, who will be 100X better than the two in steering Kenya's economy to better heights.  Trucking in America is considered a low-skilled career by the US government. On average, a truck driver takes home between 23K to 39K a year, even if their 1099 shows they made 200K+ a year. Cost of repairs, horrible food, fuel, time away from family, and daily expenses on the road eat away that 200K earnings to the low 40K range by the end of the year. According to most truckers I have talked to, I believe given a choice between flipping burgers or trucking, flipping burgers is a better option for several reasons. Little stress, much-needed hometime, because you get to go home daily, get benefits, and not be exposed to stress, like in trucking. If a trucker is lucky to be among the 5% that saves money, all that money will go down the drain in medical bills starting at age 50. Trucking is one of the most dangerous jobs in America healthwise. Most truckers are dead by 60. If they are still alive, they are usually walking dead with diabetes, an incoming stroke, or a heart attack. It is not about how you make, but what you keep, and how safe you will be at age 70s and beyond!
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 28, 2021, 08:44:41 AM
Btw - we never consider such factors - but very insightful.
Like any other Kenyans, Kikuyus need Ruto, an ordinary, honest, hard-working man, to lead them to prosperity. They could trust Kibaki or drunkard Uhuru for leadership, with their significant flaws. In that case, then they can afford Ruto, who will be 100X better than the two in steering Kenya's economy to better heights.  Trucking in America is considered a low-skilled career by the US government. On average, a truck driver takes home between 23K to 39K a year, even if their 1099 shows they made 200K+ a year. Cost of repairs, horrible food, fuel, time away from family, and daily expenses on the road eat away that 200K earnings to the low 40K range by the end of the year. According to most truckers I have talked to, I believe given a choice between flipping burgers or trucking, flipping burgers is a better option for several reasons. Little stress, much-needed hometime, because you get to go home daily, get benefits, and not be exposed to stress, like in trucking. If a trucker is lucky to be among the 5% that saves money, all that money will go down the drain in medical bills starting at age 50. Trucking is one of the most dangerous jobs in America healthwise. Most truckers are dead by 60. If they are still alive, they are usually walking dead with diabetes, an incoming stroke, or a heart attack. It is not about how you make, but what you keep, and how safe you will be at age 70s and beyond!
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 28, 2021, 08:48:00 AM
If I believe in opinion polls totality I wont be doing MOASS. The problem with our opinion polls - apart from takataka like InfoTrack - I believe is lack of proper sampling. Otherwise NIS type where budget is not an issue - will get it right.

To attempt to sample 2,000 people in a country with so many diverse tribes (one main factors in election) is not easy

Also they should have no problem doing sampling of rural and urban population.

Opinion polls are important and I am sure every party is doing their own internal ones.

There are of course those massaged for propaganda like InfoTrack and you can easily tell where they cooked.

Dont dismiss the polls entirely but dont trust them entirely too.

  Njuri don't let the secret out.  Pundit will crucify you for disagreeing with polls when we all know don't work especially in poor countries where mostly urban people even in those small towns in the villages tend to be the ones reached by pollsters.  The majority rural folks then come out and vote overwhelmingly against the predictions and that is where chaos start because a perception that had been created justifies cries of rigging just as it happened in 2007.I  fear the same script will be attempted against the DP too. Even Miguna knows 07 was a fluke.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 28, 2021, 12:28:19 PM
That’s actually not factual, if you are an owner operator, you can make way more money. If you need information, you can YouTube it or talk to Kisiis in Dallas, they are the best in this business https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8wHqwK9/
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 28, 2021, 05:06:30 PM
That’s actually not factual, if you are an owner operator, you can make way more money. If you need information, you can YouTube it or talk to Kisiis in Dallas, they are the best in this business https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8wHqwK9/



     Trucking is very tricky. You have to find the right balance to make it. Less than a year before we graduated from college in Michigan ,it became obvious that getting a job let alone OPT was going to be a challenge for most international students so we came up with an idea to try trucking. Luckily for me my cousin hooked me up with an internship and I moved to New England but a few of my buddies got their CDLs  and got in. Back then the big companies would offer free training then you had to work with them for a while to pay back. By 2007-08 we got together and formed a small trucking company to run our own. Since I couldnt leave my job which I had been hired on a contractual basis I bought a truck and got a driver and another one 6 months later. Now from an insiders perspective I can tell you for sure that you see a lot of money on paper but your take home is very little. To give you an example on a weekly basis you need to gross about 5000 dollars which then breaks down as follows, diesel about 1500 bucks minimum, driver at 25-30% of gross translates to 1250-1500 bucks, tolls another 100-200 depending on where you go, dispatch fee or commission at 13% of gross  translates to about 650 bucks if you dont own the company. The remaining amount if you are lucky not to have an idiot driver blow a tire or two then at the end of the month you have truck payments , insurance and trailer payments which are very expensive. On average insurance costs about 25k a year. Now dont get me wrong you can still make something and I did but the best two ways are as an owner operator where you save driver costs and other costs associated with dispatch etc . In this case if you pay yourself 1200 for driving and make an extra 500 bucks as an owner then you have something worthwhile. The best way is definitely to just own a company like I finally did around 2012 and just provide dispatch services. You charge lets say 10-13% on gross and because you dont own the trucks and trailers you make easy money. Of course you have to deal with DOT all the time so you have to hire a lot of staff to help keep track of things. That way if you have 20 or so trucks grossing 200k a year each then you are talking of 4 million in gross revenue. You take out your commission at 10-13% and you have 400k to 600k before your expenses which are office, staff and factoring fees. So when you see those kisii guys on you tube be careful not to buy too much into the hype. Been there, done it myself but I never drove the trucks . I did however go a a few trips with my buddies when on vacation and the sights can be hilarious. You take I-80 from New Jersey to Salinas Valley California a 3000 mile journey in a few days and its breathtaking.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 28, 2021, 05:52:36 PM
Mirrors my experience. You best bet is get local contract that runs like 200-300kms - something that can be done in a day. I have packed my 3 trucks - and will only resume trucking if I have the time.  I only made money when I was working for mhindi transporting cement in uganda. Long distance - mombasa-kigali-juba - forget ever making money - unless you're the big boys.
     Trucking is very tricky. You have to find the right balance to make it. Less than a year before we graduated from college in Michigan ,it became obvious that getting a job let alone OPT was going to be a challenge for most international students so we came up with an idea to try trucking. Luckily for me my cousin hooked me up with an internship and I moved to New England but a few of my buddies got their CDLs  and got in. Back then the big companies would offer free training then you had to work with them for a while to pay back. By 2007-08 we got together and formed a small trucking company to run our own. Since I couldnt leave my job which I had been hired on a contractual basis I bought a truck and got a driver and another one 6 months later. Now from an insiders perspective I can tell you for sure that you see a lot of money on paper but your take home is very little. To give you an example on a weekly basis you need to gross about 5000 dollars which then breaks down as follows, diesel about 1500 bucks minimum, driver at 25-30% of gross translates to 1250-1500 bucks, tolls another 100-200 depending on where you go, dispatch fee or commission at 13% of gross  translates to about 650 bucks if you dont own the company. The remaining amount if you are lucky not to have an idiot driver blow a tire or two then at the end of the month you have truck payments , insurance and trailer payments which are very expensive. On average insurance costs about 25k a year. Now dont get me wrong you can still make something and I did but the best two ways are as an owner operator where you save driver costs and other costs associated with dispatch etc . In this case if you pay yourself 1200 for driving and make an extra 500 bucks as an owner then you have something worthwhile. The best way is definitely to just own a company like I finally did around 2012 and just provide dispatch services. You charge lets say 10-13% on gross and because you dont own the trucks and trailers you make easy money. Of course you have to deal with DOT all the time so you have to hire a lot of staff to help keep track of things. That way if you have 20 or so trucks grossing 200k a year each then you are talking of 4 million in gross revenue. You take out your commission at 10-13% and you have 400k to 600k before your expenses which are office, staff and factoring fees. So when you see those kisii guys on you tube be careful not to buy too much into the hype. Been there, done it myself but I never drove the trucks . I did however go a a few trips with my buddies when on vacation and the sights can be hilarious. You take I-80 from New Jersey to Salinas Valley California a 3000 mile journey in a few days and its breathtaking.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 28, 2021, 07:23:39 PM
  Pundit in Kenya the best way to make money in trucking is to get those 6 or 10 wheeler and either put a tanker or tipper trailer then get into road construction either delivering water or road construction materials from soil to Kokomo especially with the Chinese. Of course you might have to grease those roads engineers to get it. Your only expense is driver and maintenance.  Fuel they take care of it.  Your truck does very short trips so breakdowns are minimal.  You can take home anywhere from 3 to 500k shillings depending on the deal. I have this jaluo jeuri engineer friend of mine who takes 50k from each truck monthly where he is the supervisor.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 28, 2021, 07:27:58 PM
What you call dispatch abroad is jaluo kind of guy - who take a cut for every job - brokers - ya mzigo - there is one jaluo at chinese ceremic that I had to pay 50k - mombasa is full of brokers - or clearing/forward. Those are ONLY PEOPLE making money.

Yes road construction has money as long as you get a good driver who wont cause gear/engine damage.

Generally it very tough business. It's better to invest in treasury bonds and real estate...or open a petrol stations...anything that has very few risks.

  Pundit in Kenya the best way to make money in trucking is to get those 6 or 10 wheeler and either put a tanker or tipper trailer then get into road construction either delivering water or road construction materials from soil to Kokomo especially with the Chinese. Of course you might have to grease those roads engineers to get it. Your only expense is driver and maintenance.  Fuel they take care of it.  Your truck does very short trips so breakdowns are minimal.  You can take home anywhere from 3 to 500k shillings depending on the deal. I have this jaluo jeuri engineer friend of mine who takes 50k from each truck monthly where he is the supervisor.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on December 28, 2021, 07:38:55 PM
  Pundit in Kenya the best way to make money in trucking is to get those 6 or 10 wheeler and either put a tanker or tipper trailer then get into road construction either delivering water or road construction materials from soil to Kokomo especially with the Chinese. Of course you might have to grease those roads engineers to get it. Your only expense is driver and maintenance.  Fuel they take care of it.  Your truck does very short trips so breakdowns are minimal.  You can take home anywhere from 3 to 500k shillings depending on the deal. I have this jaluo jeuri engineer friend of mine who takes 50k from each truck monthly where he is the supervisor.
Perfectly put at this rate you will be the "real" nipate genius. This is what is on the ground I can vouch from that from my experience s selling sand fromm tharaka to Nairobi and other areas 7years ago, construction trucking especially pouring water might seem slow but has real money.
I only quit after realising am constantly far from my family and I was slipping away with earthly life. The money came good an I used to hang with some Kalenjin women who made life very easy :D
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 28, 2021, 09:54:02 PM
  Pundit in Kenya the best way to make money in trucking is to get those 6 or 10 wheeler and either put a tanker or tipper trailer then get into road construction either delivering water or road construction materials from soil to Kokomo especially with the Chinese. Of course you might have to grease those roads engineers to get it. Your only expense is driver and maintenance.  Fuel they take care of it.  Your truck does very short trips so breakdowns are minimal.  You can take home anywhere from 3 to 500k shillings depending on the deal. I have this jaluo jeuri engineer friend of mine who takes 50k from each truck monthly where he is the supervisor.
Perfectly put at this rate you will be the "real" nipate genius. This is what is on the ground I can vouch from that from my experience s selling sand fromm tharaka to Nairobi and other areas 7years ago, construction trucking especially pouring water might seem slow but has real money.
I only quit after realising am constantly far from my family and I was slipping away with earthly life. The money came good an I used to hang with some Kalenjin women who made life very easy :D

   Nothing beats experience Njuri. You have to get in the mud to understand some things.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Wa Njambi on December 28, 2021, 11:37:37 PM
FB: $80K contract is not a lot of dough. Dude, eka mathabu....that's $40/Hr Gross before you pay wages and wear and tear of the semis. It really comes to about $20/Hr on W2 All-Inclusive because you are paying for your benefits....kind of a Walmart shift lead. Dude, you are a Hustle...you better on board.

The kikuyu idiots have failed to ask themselves the most important question, “ why am I hustling or calling myself a hustler?” If you have an answer to this question, you can never vote for someone like Ruto. For those of us who were lucky to migrate to the west where things work as they are supposed to, we do not hustle, once you get an education, learn a skill or start a business, the rewards are endless. I know some of you look down on truck drivers, you only wish you can make what truck drivers are making right now with supply chain issues and shortages. I have a friend who owns three semis, he just got a contract for 80k to only transport for this one company exclusively for two months, let me know what kind of business in Kenya except thievery where you can make such dough.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 29, 2021, 12:07:55 AM
A Luo calling Kikuyu idiots. Well then goes ahead to show the idiot he is....

The kikuyu idiots have failed to ask themselves the most important question, “ why am I hustling or calling myself a hustler?” If you have an answer to this question, you can never vote for someone like Ruto. For those of us who were lucky to migrate to the west where things work as they are supposed to, we do not hustle, once you get an education, learn a skill or start a business, the rewards are endless. I know some of you look down on truck drivers, you only wish you can make what truck drivers are making right now with supply chain issues and shortages. I have a friend who owns three semis, he just got a contract for 80k to only transport for this one company exclusively for two months, let me know what kind of business in Kenya except thievery where you can make such dough.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 29, 2021, 12:54:52 AM

Ambitho is just doing what she has been doing all those years from 2007 all the way to 2017.
Her polls have been saying Raila will win and oh my Raila has never won any General Elections , Come 2022 same scenario.
Should Ambitho worry about security?
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Nowayhaha on December 29, 2021, 12:56:38 AM
Tell me one presidential candidate who has ever won an election on account of Opinion polls ?

This is just the beginning. By June 2022 opinion polls it wil be baba 51 Ruto 46% its really laughable the projection always is predictable. Generally Mlima people care less about the opinion polls,apo kwa debe ndio mtajua hamjui.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on December 29, 2021, 11:30:36 AM
Tell me one presidential candidate who has ever won an election on account of Opinion polls ?

This is just the beginning. By June 2022 opinion polls it wil be baba 51 Ruto 46% its really laughable the projection always is predictable. Generally Mlima people care less about the opinion polls,apo kwa debe ndio mtajua hamjui.
What I hate is trying to play with people's akili and try to sway them.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on December 30, 2021, 01:42:17 AM
That’s actually not factual, if you are an owner operator, you can make way more money. If you need information, you can YouTube it or talk to Kisiis in Dallas, they are the best in this business https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8wHqwK9/



     Trucking is very tricky. You have to find the right balance to make it. Less than a year before we graduated from college in Michigan ,it became obvious that getting a job let alone OPT was going to be a challenge for most international students so we came up with an idea to try trucking. Luckily for me my cousin hooked me up with an internship and I moved to New England but a few of my buddies got their CDLs  and got in. Back then the big companies would offer free training then you had to work with them for a while to pay back. By 2007-08 we got together and formed a small trucking company to run our own. Since I couldnt leave my job which I had been hired on a contractual basis I bought a truck and got a driver and another one 6 months later. Now from an insiders perspective I can tell you for sure that you see a lot of money on paper but your take home is very little. To give you an example on a weekly basis you need to gross about 5000 dollars which then breaks down as follows, diesel about 1500 bucks minimum, driver at 25-30% of gross translates to 1250-1500 bucks, tolls another 100-200 depending on where you go, dispatch fee or commission at 13% of gross  translates to about 650 bucks if you dont own the company. The remaining amount if you are lucky not to have an idiot driver blow a tire or two then at the end of the month you have truck payments , insurance and trailer payments which are very expensive. On average insurance costs about 25k a year. Now dont get me wrong you can still make something and I did but the best two ways are as an owner operator where you save driver costs and other costs associated with dispatch etc . In this case if you pay yourself 1200 for driving and make an extra 500 bucks as an owner then you have something worthwhile. The best way is definitely to just own a company like I finally did around 2012 and just provide dispatch services. You charge lets say 10-13% on gross and because you dont own the trucks and trailers you make easy money. Of course you have to deal with DOT all the time so you have to hire a lot of staff to help keep track of things. That way if you have 20 or so trucks grossing 200k a year each then you are talking of 4 million in gross revenue. You take out your commission at 10-13% and you have 400k to 600k before your expenses which are office, staff and factoring fees. So when you see those kisii guys on you tube be careful not to buy too much into the hype. Been there, done it myself but I never drove the trucks . I did however go a a few trips with my buddies when on vacation and the sights can be hilarious. You take I-80 from New Jersey to Salinas Valley California a 3000 mile journey in a few days and its breathtaking.
You broke it down well, though you did not list the hidden costs and health deterioration if you do trucking for extended period of time. Usually 10+ years will put you to grave almost 20 years early.  A 60 year old trucker driver who has been trucking since 40s usually spend 500K in medical bills in retirement!
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 30, 2021, 01:57:10 AM
Few Kenyans I know drive trucks, that is a young man’s job, most of them own and operate. The young guy who is newly arrived can drive to different cities and have a party. I have never been involved in trucking, I have owned subway, Quiznos and I now own a liquor store, it’s doing very well for now before others move in. When this happens, you take your profit and move on to the next venture. I do not know why this guy insists that I am a Luo, you do not have to be a Luo to support someone who has made such huge sacrifices for the country he loves, some of his supporters can be rude and crude but you only Judge a man by his actions. I come from a family that was extremely opposed to Raila presidency, that has changed like most kikuyu middle class families, we are all in. I mean, life is short, how long can Raila revenge against Kikuyus? Moi had 24yrs and Kikuyus came out stronger.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 30, 2021, 02:34:02 AM
You assholes know that I am right, I am right all the times. Raila will be the next president in Kenya, he will win it in the second round.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 30, 2021, 02:50:45 AM
Raila win is improbable if not impossible. Go slow on weed.
You assholes know that I am right, I am right all the times. Raila will be the next president in Kenya, he will win it in the second round.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: Fairandbalanced on December 30, 2021, 03:33:57 AM
I have never smoked anything in my life, I was right on Miguna, he was hiding information, I was right on American election, I am right that Raila is the next president in Kenya, it’s time to end the kikuyu Kalenjin duopoly, it’s over.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: RV Pundit on December 30, 2021, 08:32:04 AM
Raila biggest task is to convince NASA - all of them - just to get to 45 percent - and then to look for 5 percent more from GEMA to beat Ruto.

So far OKA folks have refused to endorse Raila

I have never smoked anything in my life, I was right on Miguna, he was hiding information, I was right on American election, I am right that Raila is the next president in Kenya, it’s time to end the kikuyu Kalenjin duopoly, it’s over.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 30, 2021, 03:50:07 PM
Raila biggest task is to convince NASA - all of them - just to get to 45 percent - and then to look for 5 percent more from GEMA to beat Ruto.

So far OKA folks have refused to endorse Raila

I have never smoked anything in my life, I was right on Miguna, he was hiding information, I was right on American election, I am right that Raila is the next president in Kenya, it’s time to end the kikuyu Kalenjin duopoly, it’s over.

   Am very curious to know about what you just said on Miguna hiding information.  Could you share what it was please.  I suspected so but when I mentioned it Omollo came at me with all the matusi he could think of.
Title: Re: RV Still Believe In Polls ? Ambithos Infortrack Now says Raila will Win 2022
Post by: mankind on December 30, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
That’s actually not factual, if you are an owner operator, you can make way more money. If you need information, you can YouTube it or talk to Kisiis in Dallas, they are the best in this business https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8wHqwK9/



     Trucking is very tricky. You have to find the right balance to make it. Less than a year before we graduated from college in Michigan ,it became obvious that getting a job let alone OPT was going to be a challenge for most international students so we came up with an idea to try trucking. Luckily for me my cousin hooked me up with an internship and I moved to New England but a few of my buddies got their CDLs  and got in. Back then the big companies would offer free training then you had to work with them for a while to pay back. By 2007-08 we got together and formed a small trucking company to run our own. Since I couldnt leave my job which I had been hired on a contractual basis I bought a truck and got a driver and another one 6 months later. Now from an insiders perspective I can tell you for sure that you see a lot of money on paper but your take home is very little. To give you an example on a weekly basis you need to gross about 5000 dollars which then breaks down as follows, diesel about 1500 bucks minimum, driver at 25-30% of gross translates to 1250-1500 bucks, tolls another 100-200 depending on where you go, dispatch fee or commission at 13% of gross  translates to about 650 bucks if you dont own the company. The remaining amount if you are lucky not to have an idiot driver blow a tire or two then at the end of the month you have truck payments , insurance and trailer payments which are very expensive. On average insurance costs about 25k a year. Now dont get me wrong you can still make something and I did but the best two ways are as an owner operator where you save driver costs and other costs associated with dispatch etc . In this case if you pay yourself 1200 for driving and make an extra 500 bucks as an owner then you have something worthwhile. The best way is definitely to just own a company like I finally did around 2012 and just provide dispatch services. You charge lets say 10-13% on gross and because you dont own the trucks and trailers you make easy money. Of course you have to deal with DOT all the time so you have to hire a lot of staff to help keep track of things. That way if you have 20 or so trucks grossing 200k a year each then you are talking of 4 million in gross revenue. You take out your commission at 10-13% and you have 400k to 600k before your expenses which are office, staff and factoring fees. So when you see those kisii guys on you tube be careful not to buy too much into the hype. Been there, done it myself but I never drove the trucks . I did however go a a few trips with my buddies when on vacation and the sights can be hilarious. You take I-80 from New Jersey to Salinas Valley California a 3000 mile journey in a few days and its breathtaking.
You broke it down well, though you did not list the hidden costs and health deterioration if you do trucking for extended period of time. Usually 10+ years will put you to grave almost 20 years early.  A 60 year old trucker driver who has been trucking since 40s usually spend 500K in medical bills in retirement!


   RvH  I  get what you are saying but every job has its risks and rewards.  The modern truck driver though has a better work schedule and lifestyle.  Those new rigs have a fridge and microwave so one can pack home cooked food and avoid eating junk.  Most trucking companies now do regional hauling so the drivers are home every few days if not every day.  At those truck stops you see there are very good amenities like gyms for exercise.  The  reason why you see a shortage of truck drivers is being caused by scheduling.  The days of keeping a trucker away from home for weeks are gone.  Every one with a CDL can walk into a truck sales yard and get a rig based solely on that license. You know some companies like Walmart are paying up to 100k a year and I've seen offers of up to 30k for sign on bonuses.  I know it's short term but it's something big.  As I put it earlier don't try to buy a truck then hire a driver here because you might end up with a heart attack or depression.  As F&B  said if you own it then drive it yourself. Years ago it was very good to hire drivers but now it's not worth it.  But when you hit that sweet spot you smile all the way to the bank.  To give you an example I used to get a contract for 3 months with JB Hunt in the winter to haul within 300 mile radius from several stations in  Windsor Locks Connecticut, College Station PA and Culpepper Virginia for 1200 bucks.  If we went into the islands of New York then an extra 300 bucks.  In those three months with about 5 trucks we would do about a  million in gross revenues.  So yes there are attendant risks but sometimes the rewards can be plenty.  Remember even pilots are away from home alot and mostly you are just holed up in a hotel if not at the airport then the cockpit.  The only difference is you are in the air and the machine costs millions of dollars.