In @UDAKenya our top priority is #BottomUpEconomicsKE Meaningless anti-corruption rhetoric and virtue signalling we have left to Raila and NGOs who are funded for it. https://t.co/x4CksNDucB
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) December 15, 2021
Kenya is incredibly corrupt society - and it's now a complex problem. COK2010 has all the answers. Leave EACC to do the job. Leave the Judiciary to do the job. Leave the Auditor General to do their job. Leave Police and DCI to do their job. Dont use them as partisan tools. Let them independently investigate and prosecute graft perpetrators.
There is no role the president has in the fight against corruption except to follow COK2010 - allows independent institution to work - and follow chapter six on civil servants.
PORK should focus on getting his work done as the executive. It doesnt include fighting corruption. US or UK president doesnt fight graft.
Ndii is just trying to justify his place in the corrupt UDA. He will be the biggest looser in a UDA goverment. The minute Ruto lands in SH he will realise he is just a pawn.
That bottomup economy will not work because the people involved are fraudsters and do not mean what they proclaim.
100B for mama mboga and boda boda enterprises. How much of it will actually get the the needy people? In a corrupt society like Kenya and having a government that tells us corruption is ok, we will see several new billionaires within a year of UDA government. We have seen it before with Waiguru's NYS and now it will only be official.
One cannot compare US and Kenya. In the US the president has no influence with the justice department. In Kenya SH controls who should be investigated.
Pinochet(Ruto) went to Chicago School of Economics - picked the best brains (Ndiis) - told them to devise an economic program - Chile became the 1st Latin country after Argentina to become developed - despite huge opposition from US - and Pinochet became also rich.
A drug dealer hires the best manager - the manager makes the drug dealer even more money from investment - and they all become rich.
That is kenya now.
Ruto=Raila=MaDVD - all of them are corrupt.
I dont want somoene lying to me that as corrupt as he is - he will fight graft.
I rather someone like Ruto who has said - Judge me on the number of paved roads, hospitals, piped water, electricity and such bread-butter issues - I will give you.
If Ndii as expected become the Minister or PS of Planning - his job will end with coming with great plans - that are actionable - Ruto will execute the plans - the economy will grow.
Kenyans will become wealthier - Ruto will become even more wealthier. Ndii will also become wealthy.
The only way to fight corruption in kenya is to reduce scope and size of government. Shrinking the government by first slashing the budget, reducing regulations & bureaucracies and liberalization will dent corruption. However increasing spending and government involvement in the marketplace will always breed corruption.
Pinochet(Ruto) went to Chicago School of Economics - picked the best brains (Ndiis) - told them to devise an economic program - Chile became the 1st Latin country after Argentina to become developed - despite huge opposition from US - and Pinochet became also rich.
A drug dealer hires the best manager - the manager makes the drug dealer even more money from investment - and they all become rich.
That is kenya now.
Ruto=Raila=MaDVD - all of them are corrupt.
I dont want somoene lying to me that as corrupt as he is - he will fight graft.
I rather someone like Ruto who has said - Judge me on the number of paved roads, hospitals, piped water, electricity and such bread-butter issues - I will give you.
If Ndii as expected become the Minister or PS of Planning - his job will end with coming with great plans - that are actionable - Ruto will execute the plans - the economy will grow.
Kenyans will become wealthier - Ruto will become even more wealthier. Ndii will also become wealthy.Ndii is just trying to justify his place in the corrupt UDA. He will be the biggest looser in a UDA goverment. The minute Ruto lands in SH he will realise he is just a pawn.
That bottomup economy will not work because the people involved are fraudsters and do not mean what they proclaim.
100B for mama mboga and boda boda enterprises. How much of it will actually get the the needy people? In a corrupt society like Kenya and having a government that tells us corruption is ok, we will see several new billionaires within a year of UDA government. We have seen it before with Waiguru's NYS and now it will only be official.
One cannot compare US and Kenya. In the US the president has no influence with the justice department. In Kenya SH controls who should be investigated.
Interacted with small scale traders and enthusiastic supporters at Esibuye, Ebukaanga, Luanda and Majengo Markets in Vihiga County. pic.twitter.com/XUOTLtAsW8
— William Samoei Ruto, PhD (@WilliamsRuto) December 16, 2021
Bandia election promise, bandia hasola, bandia planning minister, bandia money wash wash, bandia economy, bandia growth.
The roads and electricity and Jubilee 1.0 development are real. It's why Ruto is getting all these people excited deep in VihigaInteracted with small scale traders and enthusiastic supporters at Esibuye, Ebukaanga, Luanda and Majengo Markets in Vihiga County. pic.twitter.com/XUOTLtAsW8
— William Samoei Ruto, PhD (@WilliamsRuto) December 16, 2021Bandia election promise, bandia hasola, bandia planning minister, bandia money wash wash, bandia economy, bandia growth.
Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
True, but of late Chile has been rocked with civil protests. The gap between the rich and the poor is enormous. The people have pushed through a new constituition and this could bring some change away from the old constituition placed by the military dictatorship.Social mobility has slowed down as the country has tilted leftwards. Capital investment fell each year of socialist rule, real wage took 50% hit under that regime. The resentment was inevitable, when there was social mobility the inequality wasn't a problem.Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
True, but of late Chile has been rocked with civil protests. The gap between the rich and the poor is enormous. The people have pushed through a new constituition and this could bring some change away from the old constituition placed by the military dictatorship.Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
If you are looking for an anti-corruption platform don’t support @UDAKenya We are not running on that platform If you believe Raila will eradicate corruption support him. If you think Kenya needs fresh clean leadership support @ReubenKigame But for chrissake stop whining. https://t.co/l4gCb7JV4Z
— David Ndii (@DavidNdii) December 15, 2021
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/KEN Kenya needs to produce and consume more. The low hanging fruit is increase in agricultural productivity. Textile export were $700m , Bangladesh comparative advantage in textile is cheap labour. Just like Bangladesh, kenya cheap labour is deployed in the cut flower industry. That cheap labour starts earning then start buying stuff and a market develops.True, but of late Chile has been rocked with civil protests. The gap between the rich and the poor is enormous. The people have pushed through a new constituition and this could bring some change away from the old constituition placed by the military dictatorship.Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
What goods does kenya produce for export besides agricultural produce? What's kenya's competitive advantage? i.e. what can it make for export that other countries can't make at a competitive price? bottomsup doesn't mention production and it's why I think Ndii is a typical theoretical academic. How will Africans become rich when they make nothing?
https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/KEN Kenya needs to produce and consume more. The low hanging fruit is increase in agricultural productivity. Textile export were $700m , Bangladesh comparative advantage in textile is cheap labour. Just like Bangladesh, kenya cheap labour is deployed in the cut flower industry. That cheap labour starts earning then start buying stuff and a market develops.
I think we should keep it simple and stupid - we have problems - we solve those problems.
So what are our problems.
1) Food insecurity - we grow more food - we improve productivity in both farming and livestock keeping. That will employ maybe 8 million of farmers - and this we can only do by improving fertilizer applications plus quality seed plus vet services plus feedlots - through cheap credit lower than commercial banks and without predatory lending.
Ndii and I agree here - we need to set up a fund for this - and after initial capital injection say of 50B - this will not need further injection as farmers will repay the loan.
2) We have problem with infrastructure - we have slums, poor roads, pave walk - Kazi Mtaani type to clean up our streets - find a way to inject money into housing - and we can keep millions of kenyans employed as watu wa mjengo - working as Kazi mtaani.
3) Let us not solve problems that don't exist in our country - like the need to export or manufacture or make things? What for? Let us provide jobs to unemployed to solve real problems that are within realms of gov....like employing them to build roads using labour intensive projects
Gov job is not to make things. It's to provide services - and hopefully private sector can organically grow - and export goods - whatever that maybe.
True, but of late Chile has been rocked with civil protests. The gap between the rich and the poor is enormous. The people have pushed through a new constituition and this could bring some change away from the old constituition placed by the military dictatorship.Chile economy is freest in Latin america https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking (https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking) . There's direct correlation between economic freedom, corruption and GDP per capita . There's no shortcut to economic growth, a country has produce goods or provision of service either for local or export market and preferably for both markets.
What goods does kenya produce for export besides agricultural produce? What's kenya's competitive advantage? i.e. what can it make for export that other countries can't make at a competitive price? bottomsup doesn't mention production and it's why I think Ndii is a typical theoretical academic. How will Africans become rich when they make nothing?
I think we should keep it simple and stupid - we have problems - we solve those problems.And how is this any different from what jubilee has been doing?
So what are our problems.
1) Food insecurity - we grow more food - we improve productivity in both farming and livestock keeping. That will employ maybe 8 million of farmers - and this we can only do by improving fertilizer applications plus quality seed plus vet services plus feedlots - through cheap credit lower than commercial banks and without predatory lending.
Ndii and I agree here - we need to set up a fund for this - and after initial capital injection say of 50B - this will not need further injection as farmers will repay the loan.
2) We have problem with infrastructure - we have slums, poor roads, pave walk - Kazi Mtaani type to clean up our streets - find a way to inject money into housing - and we can keep millions of kenyans employed as watu wa mjengo - working as Kazi mtaani.
3) Let us not solve problems that don't exist in our country - like the need to export or manufacture or make things? What for? Let us provide jobs to unemployed to solve real problems that are within realms of gov....like employing them to build roads using labour intensive projects
Gov job is not to make things. It's to provide services - and hopefully private sector can organically grow - and export goods - whatever that maybe.https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/KEN Kenya needs to produce and consume more. The low hanging fruit is increase in agricultural productivity. Textile export were $700m , Bangladesh comparative advantage in textile is cheap labour. Just like Bangladesh, kenya cheap labour is deployed in the cut flower industry. That cheap labour starts earning then start buying stuff and a market develops.
And how is this any different from what jubilee has been doing?
Hunger is an issue of poverty and distribution, so focusing on food insecurity is completely misplaced. Question how come after Ruto fertilizer subsidy agricultural productivity didn't increase? Basically you propose the usual tax,borrow and spend policy of jubilee.
To increase productivity in agriculture we just need better utilization of what already there. Take livestock, a simple thing like planting fodder for the pastoralist and better semen would more than double productivity of the livestock industry. Or better yet a cooperation between farming counties (e.g nyandarua, tranzoia ) and pastoral counties( baringo or west pokot) Farming counties sell fodder and pastoral counties sell manure( manure increases productivity of farming counties). Basically a solution that's market driven not another government slush fund.
But surely the gov hands are tied. It cannot collect manure, sell it to farmers, and then collect hay, and distribute to pastoralist. This is upon citizens to do it.The point is to get farmers to do that get them started, kick start. Kitui they're offering transportation of livestock to markets with very minimal investment and the service isn't free. Even better farmers can organize themselves to buy fodder or manure. Before the advent of dairy industry there was no market for hay in central kenya, now there's a large market for it. The point is once a market is created for what farmers are already producing increase in productivity normally follows. There's no magic wand to increase productivity for million of farmers all at once.
What can gov do that can scale up quickly to cause huge impact on millions of farmers?
For me it simple - REDISTRIBUTE MONEY from taxes back to deserving sectors - Anything else become too complicated to executed.
Gov should avoid going into operations - it should provide money and the rules for getting that money.
The last fertilizer subsidy was a mess because it was being distributed by chiefs, cereal boards and was given for free - many of fertilizers ended up being re-sold in Uganda.
SO the solution is simple - recreate KFA (nationalize the current one) or create Kilimo Bank - start offering loans through cooperatives or even individuals - and these loans should be in form of farm inputs (AVOID GIVING POOR ILLETERATE PEOPLE CASH).
This is what used to happen with KGGCU/KFA - and at least in our place - people were doing serious commercial farming - because all you needed to worry about is tilling the land. Then you go to nearest KFA - collect quality seeds and ferilizers - then you wait and harvest - deliver the Maize to NCPBB - the only risk was drought - but now we have crop insurance.
Otherwise on a good year, people would harvest, get loan deducted, pay schools fees, buy a pickup or tractor, go to Mombasa for a week, and enjoy live....farming was actually very profitable
It is what is happening in KTDA - KTDA basically gives fertilizers - then substract from the feed.
Nigeria is doing the same with ANCHOR LOAN - and they are achieving great results if Buhari data is to be believed.
The good thing is once you inject SEED capital - then it's over - the fund can revolve - with small injection every year.
Why do we need a new bank - because the existing banks - can never fill that gap as long as they are profit driven.
We know have Development Bank of Kenya - merged from dead banks - that can finance SMES.
We have Mortagage Refinancing - that will unlock housing sectors.
So we already have the foundation - it just need to be executed.
As for manufacturing - I think that should be left to private sector - gov should just work on building EPZ zones - or Special economic zones - and provide as competitive micro-enviroment for export led manufacturing as possible - subsidized power, zero taxes - in exchange of mass employment and exports.
General incentivize for entire private sector would be very expensive - and self-defeatist - why collect taxes in first place then send it back to everyone? - gov has to target certain sectors and use the taxes there - everyone else should expect good roads, clean piped water, railways, ports and such critical enablers - as reward for their taxes.And how is this any different from what jubilee has been doing?
Hunger is an issue of poverty and distribution, so focusing on food insecurity is completely misplaced. Question how come after Ruto fertilizer subsidy agricultural productivity didn't increase? Basically you propose the usual tax,borrow and spend policy of jubilee.
To increase productivity in agriculture we just need better utilization of what already there. Take livestock, a simple thing like planting fodder for the pastoralist and better semen would more than double productivity of the livestock industry. Or better yet a cooperation between farming counties (e.g nyandarua, tranzoia ) and pastoral counties( baringo or west pokot) Farming counties sell fodder and pastoral counties sell manure( manure increases productivity of farming counties). Basically a solution that's market driven not another government slush fund.
The point is to get farmers to do that get them started, kick start. Kitui they're offering transportation of livestock to markets with very minimal investment and the service isn't free. Even better farmers can organize themselves to buy fodder or manure. Before the advent of dairy industry there was no market for hay in central kenya, now there's a large market for it. The point is once a market is created for what farmers are already producing increase in productivity normally follows. There's no magic wand to increase productivity for million of farmers all at once.
There was no time farming was profitable cause of KFA/KGGCU/ NCPBB, the farmers were and are still are pampered, protected and subsidized by the public.
More government involvement in agriculture would be to the detriment of the sector.
One thing people don't realize is that Africa is Pre-Industrial society. It simply has no history of making stuff. India, China, Europeans even before the advent of industrializations (powered machinery) were making things.
For these societies - they already had history of making things - they have the crasfmanship to make these stuff manually - and what manufacturing does for them is to speed up the process up or to scale it.
Now poor Africa has no such history, no such craftsmanship, and therefore it will take them before we embrace manufacturing fully - maybe another two generations.
This stuff China were making in 11th Century. The little African were doing is maybe pottery, making rudimentary weapons, and least of all weaving clothes...
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But this is my point -- without production, there's simply no way to become a richer nation. Kenya and all of sub-saharan Africa will remain poor, 3rd world economies dependent on typical 3rd world industries like tourism, agriculture and drugs/money laundering. Bottoms up is a tooth fairy since it doesn't mention production.