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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Gikomba_Hawker on December 11, 2021, 08:45:38 AM
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Are the Tigrayans the so-called tribe of Ethiopia that has a "warrior tradition"? Or am I mistaking them for another tribe? After a while, it's hard to keep track. Are they warriors or cowards who kill innocent civilians rather than face the Ethiopian army?
Ethiopia: Tigray Forces Summarily Execute Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/12/10/ethiopia-tigray-forces-summarily-execute-civilians#
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When the war broke, you jumped up and down here with excitement about the Tigrayans. You think we did not know why? Then it turned out that the issue was more complicated and the Tigrayans themselves are no angels.
I'm sure your tears for the Tigrayans are authentic, right? I'm sure you excitedly jumped on the Tigrayan case out of genuine concern for international justice, right? Just like the way you show genuine respect for the International Criminal court, right?
Your excited hope for Ethiopia to break up like Yugoslavia, so that you can use it for your rabidly pro-Ruto Kenyan political arguments, has been complicated a bit for now.
:D :D :D
I pray that Ethiopia remains intact. It's a great friend of Kenya.
Tigrayans live under total siege, denied food, subject to mass starvation, mass profiling, mass demonization, mass internment, mass sexual violence. Lives, livelihoods destroyed, Tigray set back decades.
When you calmly use phrases like "both sides to blame" just remember that.
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Do African "warriors" loot food that is set aside for starving children?
Looters from rebel Tigrayan forces held aid staff at gunpoint in the town of Kombolcha, the United Nations said.
They stole large quantities of essential food supplies - including some for malnourished children.
Ethiopia war: UN halts food aid in two towns after warehouses looted
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-59588956
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You're sick my friend. That is why people ignore you here. What I say here about anything (my own punditry) HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO with actors. That is just my dispassionate punditry. Dont hate the Tigrays because I see their struggle mirroring a future hypothetical war that Kalenjin could launch. That make you very sick.
What I know - is that Ethiopia gov are attempting genocide against Tigrays - and what I know Tigray people are great warriors - and will fight to their death.
Tigray are the warriors that saved Ethiopia from colonization. They fought and defeated Italians in the battle of Adawa. If you're proud of Ethiopia history of defeating Italians...it the blood on Tigrayans that was shade and that prevailed. Not Ethiopia other 80 tribes.
They fought the Derg regime and prevailed. They fought for 16yrs.
They did horrible stuff when in power like Tutsi or Banyakole or the Kalenjin did to majority.
But should minority people like Tutsi now or Banyakole or Tigray or Kalenjin in Moi era be "genocided" after eventually losing power because they are damn good warriors fighting and prevailing over a bigger majority....as some form of revenge.
Of course NOT. Should we deny that Tigray are damn good fighters. Of course NOT. Should minority like Tutsi of Rwanda or Banyakole of Uganda ruling their countries commit human right violation of the majority. Of course NOT.
There should be rules of war - you cannot use gov forces to attempt to genocide minority - because YOU CANNOT - and like Tigrays and Tutsi before - when eventually they win the war - as they will - they will similarly revenge BIG TIME. The circle will continue..they will rape, kill, and displace...the majority...for say 30yrs..until they are eventually defeated..majority attempt their genocide...the same is repeated again and again. Until we have a break.
Are kalenjin good figthers. YES OF COURSE. That is historical happenstance. That everyone apart from GEMA who are new in the region are unaware. You are only aware of Maasai ferocity. But anyone in Western Kenya are aware of Kalenjin warfare - and would sue for peace immediately than going for long drawn war.
Are all people good fighters or warriors. NO. It just like running or farming. Some people are great farmers. Some are great merchants. Some are great builders. Some are great dancers. Some great hunters. This historical happenstance that combine several factors to produce speciliazed people and culture.
When the war broke, you jumped up and down here with excitement about the Tigrayans. You think we did not know why? Then it turned out that the issue was more complicated and the Tigrayans themselves are no angels.
I'm sure your tears for the Tigrayans are authentic, right? I'm sure you excitedly jumped on the Tigrayan case out of genuine concern for international justice, right? Just like the way you show genuine respect for the International Criminal court, right?
Your excited hope for Ethiopia to break up like Yugoslavia, so that you can use it for your rabidly pro-Ruto Kenyan political arguments, has been complicated a bit for now.
:D :D :D
I pray that Ethiopia remains intact. It's a great friend of Kenya.
Tigrayans live under total siege, denied food, subject to mass starvation, mass profiling, mass demonization, mass internment, mass sexual violence. Lives, livelihoods destroyed, Tigray set back decades.
When you calmly use phrases like "both sides to blame" just remember that.
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I do not hate the Tigrayans (good try, I was mocking your political manipulation of their situation). But I think your reading of the Ethiopian situation is unnecessarily colored by your Kalenjin politics. You may not see it that way but others, who are more objective, can. Every country is different.
Ethiopia is a great and wonderful country. I really do not see the necessity of it breaking up. I pray to God that it does not.
Yes, the Kalenjin may be good fighters in the old African sense. But you have politicized them too much. They are not as ferocious as you make them out to be! I also think that modern technology has complicated the so-called "warrior" ferocity you always throw at us on this forum. And the Kalenjins do not need to be a nation by themselves. Kenya's territory, as it stands now, is worth defending from secession.
I would never listen to someone like you to get an accurate reading of the Ethiopian situation. Why? You are extremely biased and have too many axes to grind. If you cannot see this you have another thing coming.
You're sick my friend. That is why people ignore you here. What I say here about anything (my own punditry) HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO with actors. That is just my dispassionate punditry. Dont hate the Tigrays because I see their struggle mirroring a future hypothetical war that Kalenjin could launch. That make you very sick.
What I know - is that Ethiopia gov are attempting genocide against Tigrays - and what I know Tigray people are great warriors - and will fight to their death.
Tigray are the warriors that saved Ethiopia from colonization. They fought and defeated Italians in the battle of Adawa. If you're proud of Ethiopia history of defeating Italians...it the blood on Tigrayans that was shade and that prevailed. Not Ethiopia other 80 tribes.
They fought the Derg regime and prevailed. They fought for 16yrs.
They did horrible stuff when in power like Tutsi or Banyakole or the Kalenjin did to majority.
But should minority people like Tutsi now or Banyakole or Tigray or Kalenjin in Moi era be "genocided" because they are damn good warriors fighting and prevailing over a bigger majority.
Of course NOT. Should we deny that Tigray are damn good fighters. Of course NOT.
There should be rules of war - you cannot use gov forces to attempt to genocide minority - because YOU CANNOT - and like Tigrays and Tutsi before - when eventually they win the war - as they will - they will similarly revenge BIG TIME. The circle will continue..they will rape, kill, and displace...the majority...for say 30yrs..until they are eventually defeated..majority attempt their genocide...the same is repeated again and again. Until we have a break.
Are kalenjin good figthers. YES OF COURSE. That is historical happenstance. That everyone apart from GEMA who are new in the region are unaware. You are only aware of Maasai ferocity.
Are all people good fighters or warriors. NO. It just like running or farming. Some people are great farmers. Some are great merchants. Some are great builders. Some are great dancers. Some great hunters. This historical happenstance that combine several factors to produce speciliazed people and culture.
When the war broke, you jumped up and down here with excitement about the Tigrayans. You think we did not know why? Then it turned out that the issue was more complicated and the Tigrayans themselves are no angels.
I'm sure your tears for the Tigrayans are authentic, right? I'm sure you excitedly jumped on the Tigrayan case out of genuine concern for international justice, right? Just like the way you show genuine respect for the International Criminal court, right?
Your excited hope for Ethiopia to break up like Yugoslavia, so that you can use it for your rabidly pro-Ruto Kenyan political arguments, has been complicated a bit for now.
:D :D :D
I pray that Ethiopia remains intact. It's a great friend of Kenya.
Tigrayans live under total siege, denied food, subject to mass starvation, mass profiling, mass demonization, mass internment, mass sexual violence. Lives, livelihoods destroyed, Tigray set back decades.
When you calmly use phrases like "both sides to blame" just remember that.
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Dude then why open a thread with passive aggressive post on my punditry. Why not talk about Tigray human rights violation on it's own merit? I am not GOD. I make my analysis based on the facts I know. I get it wrong sometimes. Because I am not expert in everything. I know for example that Tigrayans are very very very good fighters.
As we speak Tigrays are still the winners. one year a go - ethiopia gov was kicking their federal gov and sending them to hills - one year later - not only have Tigray reclaimed their entire territorry - they occupy huge portion of Amhara region
The winner as of now is still the Tigray.
But should Ethiopia gov deny non combatants food and medicine - of course not. That is why US and western countries are telling Ethiopia that is not how to fight war.
Ethiopia gov should fight Tigray armed forces but let the UN and other Aid agencies to transport food to prevent mass starvation.
I do not hate the Tigrayans (good try, I was mocking your political manipulation of their situation). But I think your reading of the Ethiopian situation is unnecessarily colored by your Kalenjin politics. You may not see it that way but others, who are more objective, can. Every country is different.
Ethiopia is a great and wonderful country. I really do not see the necessity of it breaking up. I pray to God that it does not.
Yes, the Kalenjin may be good fighters in the old African sense. But you have politicized them too much. They are not as ferocious as you make them out to be! I also think that modern technology has complicated the so-called "warrior" ferocity you always throw at us on this forum. And the Kalenjins do not need to be a nation by themselves. Kenya's territory, as it stands now, is worth defending from secession.
I would never listen to someone like you to get an accurate reading of the Ethiopian situation. Why? You are extremely biased and have too many axes to grind. If you cannot see this you have another thing coming.
You're sick my friend. That is why people ignore you here. What I say here about anything (my own punditry) HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO with actors. That is just my dispassionate punditry. Dont hate the Tigrays because I see their struggle mirroring a future hypothetical war that Kalenjin could launch. That make you very sick.
What I know - is that Ethiopia gov are attempting genocide against Tigrays - and what I know Tigray people are great warriors - and will fight to their death.
Tigray are the warriors that saved Ethiopia from colonization. They fought and defeated Italians in the battle of Adawa. If you're proud of Ethiopia history of defeating Italians...it the blood on Tigrayans that was shade and that prevailed. Not Ethiopia other 80 tribes.
They fought the Derg regime and prevailed. They fought for 16yrs.
They did horrible stuff when in power like Tutsi or Banyakole or the Kalenjin did to majority.
But should minority people like Tutsi now or Banyakole or Tigray or Kalenjin in Moi era be "genocided" because they are damn good warriors fighting and prevailing over a bigger majority.
Of course NOT. Should we deny that Tigray are damn good fighters. Of course NOT.
There should be rules of war - you cannot use gov forces to attempt to genocide minority - because YOU CANNOT - and like Tigrays and Tutsi before - when eventually they win the war - as they will - they will similarly revenge BIG TIME. The circle will continue..they will rape, kill, and displace...the majority...for say 30yrs..until they are eventually defeated..majority attempt their genocide...the same is repeated again and again. Until we have a break.
Are kalenjin good figthers. YES OF COURSE. That is historical happenstance. That everyone apart from GEMA who are new in the region are unaware. You are only aware of Maasai ferocity.
Are all people good fighters or warriors. NO. It just like running or farming. Some people are great farmers. Some are great merchants. Some are great builders. Some are great dancers. Some great hunters. This historical happenstance that combine several factors to produce speciliazed people and culture.
When the war broke, you jumped up and down here with excitement about the Tigrayans. You think we did not know why? Then it turned out that the issue was more complicated and the Tigrayans themselves are no angels.
I'm sure your tears for the Tigrayans are authentic, right? I'm sure you excitedly jumped on the Tigrayan case out of genuine concern for international justice, right? Just like the way you show genuine respect for the International Criminal court, right?
Your excited hope for Ethiopia to break up like Yugoslavia, so that you can use it for your rabidly pro-Ruto Kenyan political arguments, has been complicated a bit for now.
:D :D :D
I pray that Ethiopia remains intact. It's a great friend of Kenya.
Tigrayans live under total siege, denied food, subject to mass starvation, mass profiling, mass demonization, mass internment, mass sexual violence. Lives, livelihoods destroyed, Tigray set back decades.
When you calmly use phrases like "both sides to blame" just remember that.
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To you, you see everything you write as "punditry." In reality, it is spin, pure and simple. And sometimes it is reckless spin. This is what happens when you believe that you possess a very high IQ, while those who disagree with you are low IQ types.
Dude then why open a thread with passive aggressive post on my punditry. Why not talk about Tigray human rights violation on it's own merit? I am not GOD. I make my analysis based on the facts I know. I get it wrong sometimes. Because I am not expert in everything. I know for example that Tigrayans are very very very good fighters.
I do not hate the Tigrayans (good try, I was mocking your political manipulation of their situation). But I think your reading of the Ethiopian situation is unnecessarily colored by your Kalenjin politics. You may not see it that way but others, who are more objective, can. Every country is different.
Ethiopia is a great and wonderful country. I really do not see the necessity of it breaking up. I pray to God that it does not.
Yes, the Kalenjin may be good fighters in the old African sense. But you have politicized them too much. They are not as ferocious as you make them out to be! I also think that modern technology has complicated the so-called "warrior" ferocity you always throw at us on this forum. And the Kalenjins do not need to be a nation by themselves. Kenya's territory, as it stands now, is worth defending from secession.
I would never listen to someone like you to get an accurate reading of the Ethiopian situation. Why? You are extremely biased and have too many axes to grind. If you cannot see this you have another thing coming.
You're sick my friend. That is why people ignore you here. What I say here about anything (my own punditry) HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO with actors. That is just my dispassionate punditry. Dont hate the Tigrays because I see their struggle mirroring a future hypothetical war that Kalenjin could launch. That make you very sick.
What I know - is that Ethiopia gov are attempting genocide against Tigrays - and what I know Tigray people are great warriors - and will fight to their death.
Tigray are the warriors that saved Ethiopia from colonization. They fought and defeated Italians in the battle of Adawa. If you're proud of Ethiopia history of defeating Italians...it the blood on Tigrayans that was shade and that prevailed. Not Ethiopia other 80 tribes.
They fought the Derg regime and prevailed. They fought for 16yrs.
They did horrible stuff when in power like Tutsi or Banyakole or the Kalenjin did to majority.
But should minority people like Tutsi now or Banyakole or Tigray or Kalenjin in Moi era be "genocided" because they are damn good warriors fighting and prevailing over a bigger majority.
Of course NOT. Should we deny that Tigray are damn good fighters. Of course NOT.
There should be rules of war - you cannot use gov forces to attempt to genocide minority - because YOU CANNOT - and like Tigrays and Tutsi before - when eventually they win the war - as they will - they will similarly revenge BIG TIME. The circle will continue..they will rape, kill, and displace...the majority...for say 30yrs..until they are eventually defeated..majority attempt their genocide...the same is repeated again and again. Until we have a break.
Are kalenjin good figthers. YES OF COURSE. That is historical happenstance. That everyone apart from GEMA who are new in the region are unaware. You are only aware of Maasai ferocity.
Are all people good fighters or warriors. NO. It just like running or farming. Some people are great farmers. Some are great merchants. Some are great builders. Some are great dancers. Some great hunters. This historical happenstance that combine several factors to produce speciliazed people and culture.
When the war broke, you jumped up and down here with excitement about the Tigrayans. You think we did not know why? Then it turned out that the issue was more complicated and the Tigrayans themselves are no angels.
I'm sure your tears for the Tigrayans are authentic, right? I'm sure you excitedly jumped on the Tigrayan case out of genuine concern for international justice, right? Just like the way you show genuine respect for the International Criminal court, right?
Your excited hope for Ethiopia to break up like Yugoslavia, so that you can use it for your rabidly pro-Ruto Kenyan political arguments, has been complicated a bit for now.
:D :D :D
I pray that Ethiopia remains intact. It's a great friend of Kenya.
Tigrayans live under total siege, denied food, subject to mass starvation, mass profiling, mass demonization, mass internment, mass sexual violence. Lives, livelihoods destroyed, Tigray set back decades.
When you calmly use phrases like "both sides to blame" just remember that.
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You really fear me :)
To you, you see everything you write as "punditry." In reality, it is spin, pure and simple. And sometimes it is reckless spin. This is what happens when you believe that you possess a very high IQ, while those who disagree with you are low IQ types.
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Yes, I tremble whenever I see your handle. I fear you might steal my cow today and murder me tomorrow.
You really fear me :)
To you, you see everything you write as "punditry." In reality, it is spin, pure and simple. And sometimes it is reckless spin. This is what happens when you believe that you possess a very high IQ, while those who disagree with you are low IQ types.
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We need mass Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) treatment. Rift valley is and has been a war zone. Just like Northern Kenya. Growing up people would knife you and tell you not to move so you dont break their swords...as they remove it slowly :). Or as Mzungu realize people were stealing railway nuts for use as club/rungu to brain your enemy or opponent - crack your skull.
Yes, I tremble whenever I see your handle. I fear you might steal my cow today and murder me tomorrow.
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Wow! Really? :D
We need mass Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) treatment. Rift valley is and has been a war zone. Just like Northern Kenya. Growing up people would knife you and tell you not to move so you dont break their swords...as they remove it slowly :)
Yes, I tremble whenever I see your handle. I fear you might steal my cow today and murder me tomorrow.
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Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
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He jumps at any opportunity. He's all over the map. It's actually quite pathetic. And when you call him out, he cries like a baby: "You are sick." My favorite is this one: "Everyone hates you." It's as if I'm in a popularity contest. I don't call him out to be popular. I call him out because I simply disagree with him. I don't care what anyone thinks!
When he seized on the shifta war to promote his usual stuff, I began to realize that a screw was definitely missing in that brain that is supposedly high IQ.
:D :D :D
Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
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Read your signature. You're desperate for Meru to be recognized as warriors. They are farmers.
Warrior tribe of East Africa that were noted for their fighting - Somalis, Kalenjin, Maasai, Turkana and Ngonis.
Ingine ni farmers and fishermen.
Read books like this
Warrior Peoples of East Africa 1840–1900
Less well known than the Zulu of South Africa, the warriors of East Africa had just as fearsome a reputation. This fascinating study, illustrated with rare early drawings and meticulous colour plates, covers six of most prominent tribes.
The prowess of the lion-hunting Masai deterred all foreign penetration for most of the 19th century;
the Ngoni, driven north by the Zulu, revolutionized warfare in the region;
the HeHe put up fierce resistance to German colonisers;
the Ruga-Ruga produced two formidable warlords and adorned themselves with bloody trophies;
the Nandi showed reckless bravery even against machine guns; - I didnt make that up - and if you need confirmation of what arming a kalenjin look like - go to Pokot.
and the Turkana dominated one of the most pitiless wildernesses in all of Africa.
Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
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Modern technology has complicated things a bit for the so-called warrior tribes. A good aim from a drone can mess things up quite a bit, to put it mildly. A nice drone is also great for gathering intelligence, especially on cowardly attackers who target churches and innocent civilians.
Eye in the Sky: Real-time Drone Surveillance System (DSS) for Violent Individuals Identification
Read your signature. You're desperate for Meru to be recognized as warriors. They are farmers.
Warrior tribe of East Africa that were noted for their fighting - Somalis, Kalenjin, Maasai, Turkana and Ngonis.
Ingine ni farmers and fishermen.
Read books like this
Warrior Peoples of East Africa 1840–1900
Less well known than the Zulu of South Africa, the warriors of East Africa had just as fearsome a reputation. This fascinating study, illustrated with rare early drawings and meticulous colour plates, covers six of most prominent tribes.
The prowess of the lion-hunting Masai deterred all foreign penetration for most of the 19th century;
the Ngoni, driven north by the Zulu, revolutionized warfare in the region;
the HeHe put up fierce resistance to German colonisers;
the Ruga-Ruga produced two formidable warlords and adorned themselves with bloody trophies;
the Nandi showed reckless bravery even against machine guns; - I didnt make that up - and if you need confirmation of what arming a kalenjin look like - go to Pokot.
and the Turkana dominated one of the most pitiless wildernesses in all of Africa.
Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
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Are the Tigrayans the so-called tribe of Ethiopia that has a "warrior tradition"? Or am I mistaking them for another tribe? After a while, it's hard to keep track. Are they warriors or cowards who kill innocent civilians rather than face the Ethiopian army?
Ethiopia: Tigray Forces Summarily Execute Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/12/10/ethiopia-tigray-forces-summarily-execute-civilians#
The Afar are the Martial tribe of Ethiopia. They have a long history of resistance going back many centuries before Other kabilas . Generally all Kabilas in Ethiopia alhave a long history of war and are quite good at it there is no single timid kabila.
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Read your signature. You're desperate for Meru to be recognized as warriors. They are farmers.
Warrior tribe of East Africa that were noted for their fighting - Somalis, Kalenjin, Maasai, Turkana and Ngonis.
Ingine ni farmers and fishermen.
Read books like this
Warrior Peoples of East Africa 1840–1900
Less well known than the Zulu of South Africa, the warriors of East Africa had just as fearsome a reputation. This fascinating study, illustrated with rare early drawings and meticulous colour plates, covers six of most prominent tribes.
The prowess of the lion-hunting Masai deterred all foreign penetration for most of the 19th century;
the Ngoni, driven north by the Zulu, revolutionized warfare in the region;
the HeHe put up fierce resistance to German colonisers;
the Ruga-Ruga produced two formidable warlords and adorned themselves with bloody trophies;
the Nandi showed reckless bravery even against machine guns; - I didnt make that up - and if you need confirmation of what arming a kalenjin look like - go to Pokot.
and the Turkana dominated one of the most pitiless wildernesses in all of Africa.
Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
Pundit bandit :D very true Merus are farmers very proud farmers like most bantu communities the affinity to land and farming is imprinted onnthe mind. I don't think of other passions apart from tilling soil and growing crops or keeping animals.
But unlike you I don't say merus are related to any other kabilas in foreign countries like you who suffers from grandiose hallucinations of the kalenjin somewhat like they are from Pluto. And thats why I always wished we bordered you so that your inflated ego can be Brought to Earth. Kalenjin are just goat keepers growing up we were told goat herders from mogotio were ruling us in Nairobi. :D
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Say someone who has spent all the time trying to link Bantus with Meroe kingdom of Sudan.
Look..out of Ethiopia-Sudan - Oromos/Somali - and Nubian lived in Cush Empire.
Below them were Kalenjin...in the present day Khartoum.
Below them are Luos...they are in Malakal and Bar Gazelle (sp)..
Below them are related Dinks and Nuers...to the east were Maasai/Turkana/Teso
Now Kalenjin (proto-kalenjin) broke off with Oromo/somalis (cushites) (proto-cushites) - just before spread of christinity up in horn of Africa (later 200yrs Islam arrived) - and moved south wards - toward Ethiopia highlands - and further south to Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda.
There is enough DNA that has been done - of plants, language, name it.
Kalenjin like Maasai have had significant genetic inflow from cushitic to be described as nilo-hamitic or nilo-cushitic if you will.
Of course even Merus have significant genetic inflow from cushitic (25 percent) - but Kalenjin/Maasai is about (50-75 percent)
It silly to imagine that nilotes lived in sudan and ethiopia - and never interacted with cushites or semites of Ethiopia and sudan.
It also silly to imagine a bantu from Nigeria/Camerooun somehow is related to the tribes in horn of Africa. If there is any relationship - then it's from east africa bantus - interracting with cushites and nilotes.
Pundit bandit :D very true Merus are farmers very proud farmers like most bantu communities the affinity to land and farming is imprinted onnthe mind. I don't think of other passions apart from tilling soil and growing crops or keeping animals.
But unlike you I don't say merus are related to any other kabilas in foreign countries like you who suffers from grandiose hallucinations of the kalenjin somewhat like they are from Pluto. And thats why I always wished we bordered you so that your inflated ego can be Brought to Earth. Kalenjin are just goat keepers growing up we were told goat herders from mogotio were ruling us in Nairobi. :D
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:D :D :D
Just imagine you are politically in bed with them these days. I pray for you.
Good luck trying to make sense of the genius computer pundit and his martial master race kalenjin. One day they are related to the Tutsi, another day somalis then lately Tigray :D
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Lakini uko desperate for Baba. Let me tell you - these gema will never respect sissies like you - they are used to bullying you - but sisi we dont get bullied by farmers kama Njuri ncheke with his sharpened machette.
If you had as little cojones as Ruto - you would not be seeing PORK in year 2100 - if ever.
Luos aka Raila have cojones - shida ni tactic and strategy - they let emotion take over their brain.
Kalenjin are very calculative - we do maths - we never lose our emotions - but fight we fight.
Uhuru and Mt kenya mafia are still waiting for Ruto to go see them and plead - Ruto told them to forget about it.
:D :D :D
Just imagine you are politically in bed with them these days. I pray for you.
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Pundit, I have always mentioned here that for anyone but Ruto. So if you bring me even Miguna², I will prefer him to your fellow warrior.
As of being a sissy, I am not out like you to prove my bravery to Gema folks. To me they are just like Maasai or Taita to me.
Lakini uko desperate for Baba. Let me tell you - these gema will never respect sissies like you - they are used to bullying you - but sisi we dont get bullied by farmers kama Njuri ncheke with his sharpened machette.
If you had as little cojones as Ruto - you would not be seeing PORK in year 2100 - if ever.
Luos aka Raila have cojones - shida ni tactic and strategy - they let emotion take over their brain.
Kalenjin are very calculative - we do maths - we never lose our emotions - but fight we fight.
Uhuru and Mt kenya mafia are still waiting for Ruto to go see them and plead - Ruto told them to forget about it.
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Be free. Hapa hakuna kura. This site has no viewership. In fact if I stopped posting - it will die. Express yourself. Do not think kuna kura hapa Raila hatapata even if you lick Njuri arse clean. Shameful.
Pundit, I have always mentioned here that for anyone but Ruto. So if you bring me even Miguna², I will prefer him to your fellow warrior.
As of being a sissy, I am not out like you to prove my bravery to Gema folks. To me they are just like Maasai or Taita to me.
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Matusi ya nini? Are you so desparate? Take time to see a psycho. It seems siasa has become a personal thing for you. I can assure you even with Ruto living in SH I will continue drinking my chai every morning as usual. No headaches and I will sleep like a baby. To me unlike you it is not a matter of life and death.
Be free. Hapa hakuna kura. This site has no viewership. In fact if I stopped posting - it will die. Express yourself. Do not think kuna kura hapa Raila hatapata even if you lick Njuri arse clean. Shameful.
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How is a matter of life and death for me? For me Raila presidency only put my investment in Mau at risk and future investment there; But I already made enough money there; and have many others investment elsewhere they are safe.
Beyond that - I expect Ruto to provide my people more piped water and paved roads - raila ni taka taka who has not helped kibera or luos - sioni kitu atafanya...he will just mismanage kenya and spread poverty.
So yes for me I see Raila as political risk in my mau investment - and lost opportunity - for someone with Ruto talent to take kenya forward.
Not life n death...that is why I dont suck up to folks here - vote or do not vote ruto or raila - with your OWN REASONS.
Matusi ya nini? Are you so desparate? Take time to see a psycho. It seems siasa has become a personal thing for you. I can assure you even with Ruto living in SH I will continue drinking my chai every morning as usual. No headaches and I will sleep like a baby. To me unlike you it is not a matter of life and death.
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Isn't it nice that we have political choices? Imagine all the personal sacrifices that many Kenyans had to make in order for you to say what you're saying right now (without a hint of irony).
This is precisely why I will NEVER support Ruto. When I look at him I see a Youth for Kanu thug and a shameless thief. Pure and simple.
How is a matter of life and death for me? For me Raila presidency only put my investment in Mau at risk and future investment there; But I already made enough money there; and have many others investment elsewhere they are safe.
Beyond that - I expect Ruto to provide my people more piped water and paved roads - raila ni taka taka who has not helped kibera or luos - sioni kitu atafanya...he will just mismanage kenya and spread poverty.
So yes for me I see Raila as political risk in my mau investment - and lost opportunity - for someone with Ruto talent to take kenya forward.
Not life n death...that is why I dont suck up to folks here - vote or do not vote ruto or raila - with your OWN REASONS.
Matusi ya nini? Are you so desparate? Take time to see a psycho. It seems siasa has become a personal thing for you. I can assure you even with Ruto living in SH I will continue drinking my chai every morning as usual. No headaches and I will sleep like a baby. To me unlike you it is not a matter of life and death.
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As fighting drags on, the government, with its tiny air force of 22 combat-capable aircraft, seems to have also realised that air power and timely intelligence can make all the difference in a conflict – especially one fought over vast and often mountainous areas like in Ethiopia’s north. Although there has been no official confirmation, analysts have pointed to credible reports saying Ahmed’s government has reached out in recent months to manufacturers of cheap and efficient armed drones hoping that air power will turn the tide in its way.
Photographic evidence has pointed to the presence of Chinese Wing Loong 2 Unarmed Aerial Vehicles or UAVs at Ethiopian military bases, while a Bellingcat investigation in August found strong indications that Iranian armed drones, along with their ground control stations, had been spotted at Semera Airport. The government has also reportedly reached out to Turkey and requested a number of Bayraktar TB2 drones. These are relatively cheap and combat-proven and have been decisively used over several battlefields in recent years.
Turkey’s defence and aerospace exports to Ethiopia leapt in the first three months of 2021 to $51m, with further increases in August and September. The TB2s decisive use in three recent conflicts – western Libya, northern Syria and Nagorno-Karabakh – showcased their abilities and the move by drones from effective counterterrorism tools to potent weapons on the battlefield.
How armed drones may have helped turn the tide in Ethiopia’s war
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/12/10/how-armed-drones-may-have-helped-turn-tide-in-ethiopia-conflict
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Pundit suffered a severe mental melt down,reason he is trying to shout hoarse but no one is listening Actually these Ethiopian threads have brought out true colors of pundit where his punditry has been laid bare as just lunacy. Expect more matusi from him as the real nipate intellects dictate the pace.
Kadudu we know kalenjins in and out the likes of sudi pundit are the dangerous ones but we have them innoculated,Ruto wouldn't dare make a false move we have him by the balls,kalenjins will be relegated to posta and police, economy wholeheartedly will belong to us
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How armed drones helped turn the tide in Ethiopia’s war
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Njuri, prepare to lose power, to Nilotic kingdom. You know Nilotes we don't play softie games. Tafuta Kalonzo :) or MADVD fellow Bantus if you want a sofie.
You go with Raila - Wajaluo will crash your balls literally - and feed it to the dogs. You go with us - we will just castrate you.
Matina matina. The deep blue sea and the ocean.
Weka leo Raila - like we wanted in 2007 - because the Jaluo will reduce you back to 1963 :D :D - You will answer for Jaramogi, Mboya, Raila and by time we get to baby pendo you'll be done. Ruto will do a 360 and support Raila :). As long as Raila start from 1963 :) - we will pay homepage to Jakom.
Ukiweka Ruto - we will only care about the money - we will steal land and money - anyone attempting to stop DP Ruto wealth accumulation will castrated. Otherwise we will mind our business and will not get into your business.
At least you know what Kalenjin can do - be afraid of what Luos can do - go to Uganda and Ask Museveni :) what Obote did. He first kicked out Bantu Kingdom of Buganda....said kingdoms are useless....this very old kingdom.
NJuri my father was expert in all things Luo. He spoke it fluently. One thing he knows a LUO CAN NEVER SHARE POWER. It's just not in Luo DNA - hapo it will be RAILA THE KING - and everyone else the SUBJECT.
Sijui Mt Kenya business negotiating with Raila :). Raila will make up for Luo sufferings under GEMA-Kalenjin in less than 5yrs. Justice will be restored PRONTO.
Never before have Mt Kenya mafia found themselves in a fix. Last minute they may even hand it to MILITARY GEN KIBOCHI :) :)
Wamecheza karata mpaka sasa they are stuck in catch 22 - blue corner Ruto - red corner Raila - if only they had propped Kaloi or maDVD
Pundit suffered a severe mental melt down,reason he is trying to shout hoarse but no one is listening Actually these Ethiopian threads have brought out true colors of pundit where his punditry has been laid bare as just lunacy. Expect more matusi from him as the real nipate intellects dictate the pace.
Kadudu we know kalenjins in and out the likes of sudi pundit are the dangerous ones but we have them innoculated,Ruto wouldn't dare make a false move we have him by the balls,kalenjins will be relegated to posta and police, economy wholeheartedly will belong to us
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Njuri, prepare to lose power, to Nilotic kingdom. You know Nilotes we don't play softie games. Tafuta Kalonzo :) or MADVD fellow Bantus if you want a sofie.
You go with Raila - Wajaluo will crash your balls literally - and feed it to the dogs. You go with us - we will just castrate you.
Matina matina. The deep blue sea and the ocean.
Weka leo Raila - like we wanted in 2007 - because the Jaluo will reduce you back to 1963 :D :D - You will answer for Jaramogi, Mboya, Raila and by time we get to baby pendo you'll be done. Ruto will do a 360 and support Raila :). As long as Raila start from 1963 :) - we will pay homepage to Jakom.
Ukiweka Ruto - we will only care about the money - we will steal land and money - anyone attempting to stop DP Ruto wealth accumulation will castrated. Otherwise we will mind our business and will not get into your business.
At least you know what Kalenjin can do - be afraid of what Luos can do - go to Uganda and Ask Museveni :) what Obote did. He first kicked out Bantu Kingdom of Buganda....said kingdoms are useless....this very old kingdom.
NJuri my father was expert in all things Luo. He spoke it fluently. One thing he knows a LUO CAN NEVER SHARE POWER. It's just not in Luo DNA - hapo it will be RAILA THE KING - and everyone else the SUBJECT.
Sijui Mt Kenya business negotiating with Raila :). Raila will make up for Luo sufferings under GEMA-Kalenjin in less than 5yrs. Justice will be restored PRONTO.
Never before have Mt Kenya mafia found themselves in a fix. Last minute they may even hand it to MILITARY GEN KIBOCHI :) :)
Wamecheza karata mpaka sasa they are stuck in catch 22 - blue corner Ruto - red corner Raila - if only they had propped Kaloi or maDVD
Pundit suffered a severe mental melt down,reason he is trying to shout hoarse but no one is listening Actually these Ethiopian threads have brought out true colors of pundit where his punditry has been laid bare as just lunacy. Expect more matusi from him as the real nipate intellects dictate the pace.
Kadudu we know kalenjins in and out the likes of sudi pundit are the dangerous ones but we have them innoculated,Ruto wouldn't dare make a false move we have him by the balls,kalenjins will be relegated to posta and police, economy wholeheartedly will belong to us
Pundit the games you play with luos in muhoroni and chemelil are not the same you will play with us. Pundit Ruto will be president because we have decided so. He will abide by the rules we have set for him inorder for him to exist. We have tasted raw oower for 20 continuous years and we obviously wont let you pundit sudi and your fellow goat breeding club members ruin that.
Take that to the bank.
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Mimi I am not going to be near power - I dont desire it. My business with Ruto - is simple build for me more paved roads, pipe water and provide growing economy.
Ruto is a gentleman - he will share power - but Raila sioni.
Kalenjin are generous - kama ni kukula kenya - tutakula wote iishe kama siku ya Moi. After 10yrs mulete ukarabita - :) kama Kibaki arudishe tena...you recover the economy
Someone like Meru Senator will be billionaire many times over.
Kama ni Raila - I cannot predict what will happen :) The man is mercurial and his people are dynamite. Ni kama Miguna Miguna mingi. You just dont know if Kichwa Mbaya will wake up sane or insane.
I'd say KDF and Raila are the same - both are very unpredictable - they can be good or evil - there is no middle ground. I would avoid opposing gov if either is running it - because you will be beaten blue. Ask Luo who oppose Raila - they cannot even say Ngwe!
Pundit the games you play with luos in muhoroni and chemelil are not the same you will play with us. Pundit Ruto will be president because we have decided so. He will abide by the rules we have set for him inorder for him to exist. We have tasted raw oower for 20 continuous years and we obviously wont let you pundit sudi and your fellow goat breeding club members ruin that.
Take that to the bank.
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Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
Mimi I am not going to be near power - I dont desire it. My business with Ruto - is simple build for me more paved roads, pipe water and provide growing economy.
Ruto is a gentleman - he will share power - but Raila sioni.
Kalenjin are generous - kama ni kukula kenya - tutakula wote iishe kama siku ya Moi. After 10yrs mulete ukarabita - :) kama Kibaki arudishe tena...you recover the economy
Someone like Meru Senator will be billionaire many times over.
Kama ni Raila - I cannot predict what will happen :) The man is mercurial and his people are dynamite. Ni kama Miguna Miguna mingi. You just dont know if Kichwa Mbaya will wake up sane or insane.
I'd say KDF and Raila are the same - both are very unpredictable - they can be good or evil - there is no middle ground. I would avoid opposing gov if either is running it - because you will be beaten blue. Ask Luo who oppose Raila - they cannot even say Ngwe!
Pundit the games you play with luos in muhoroni and chemelil are not the same you will play with us. Pundit Ruto will be president because we have decided so. He will abide by the rules we have set for him inorder for him to exist. We have tasted raw oower for 20 continuous years and we obviously wont let you pundit sudi and your fellow goat breeding club members ruin that.
Take that to the bank.
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Relax. Half the stuff we write here is just banter. Do not take everything seriously. You wont know because 1) you're stupid and 2) you're new
Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
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Oh, I see. I was just wondering.
Relax. Half the stuff we write here is just banter. Do not take everything seriously. You wont know because 1) you're stupid and 2) you're new
Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
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Kenya politics is never serious. The Rutos, Railas, and Uhurus are probably cracking jokes in some exclusive clubs - or their children are. The Mps the same. I have seen it myself. At UON - I was friend to a chef at Kenya Club - he is my villagemate - I use to go there for free food - there I would see KANU and Opposition mps cracking jokes - then press conference later angrily tearing each other.
Right now go to those exclusive clubs of theirs - Karen or Nairobi or Muthaiga - you will find them cracking jokes, breaking bread and drinking together - hapa munamalizana online.
Before you know they have done handshake - camps changes - enemy is a friend - friend an enemy - and rollercaste continue
Oh, I see. I was just wondering.
Relax. Half the stuff we write here is just banter. Do not take everything seriously. You wont know because 1) you're stupid and 2) you're new
Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
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By the way, look up in the sky and smile. I'm watching you as you speak from my drone. Wave your hand. :D :D :D
Kenya politics is never serious. The Rutos, Railas, and Uhurus are probably cracking jokes in some exclusive clubs - or their children are. The Mps the same. I have seen it myself. At UON - I was friend to a chef at Kenya Club - he is my villagemate - I use to go there for free food - there I would see KANU and Opposition mps cracking jokes - then press conference later angrily tearing each other.
Right now go to those exclusive clubs of theirs - Karen or Nairobi or Muthaiga - you will find them cracking jokes, breaking bread and drinking together - hapa munamalizana online.
Oh, I see. I was just wondering.
Relax. Half the stuff we write here is just banter. Do not take everything seriously. You wont know because 1) you're stupid and 2) you're new
Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
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Equip your drone with night time vision and infrared- otherwise we fight at night only - we sleep in the day
By the way, look up in the sky and smile. I'm watching you as you speak from my drone. Wave your hand. :D :D :D
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The capabilities and specs on my drone are for me alone to know. Can it work at night? I'll let you guess.
Equip your drone with night time vision and infrared- otherwise we fight at night only - we sleep in the day
By the way, look up in the sky and smile. I'm watching you as you speak from my drone. Wave your hand. :D :D :D
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The conflict in Ethiopia—who’s fighting who, and why? | Start Here
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By the way, look up in the sky and smile. I'm watching you as you speak from my drone. Wave your hand. :D :D :D
Kenya politics is never serious. The Rutos, Railas, and Uhurus are probably cracking jokes in some exclusive clubs - or their children are. The Mps the same. I have seen it myself. At UON - I was friend to a chef at Kenya Club - he is my villagemate - I use to go there for free food - there I would see KANU and Opposition mps cracking jokes - then press conference later angrily tearing each other.
Right now go to those exclusive clubs of theirs - Karen or Nairobi or Muthaiga - you will find them cracking jokes, breaking bread and drinking together - hapa munamalizana online.
Oh, I see. I was just wondering.
Relax. Half the stuff we write here is just banter. Do not take everything seriously. You wont know because 1) you're stupid and 2) you're new
Playing on stereo-type thinking which is shameful and lazy, especially for a "high IQ" person. By this logic, are all Kalenjins church burners?
:85: that was a good one you can't make this stuff up. Pundit will be like the laikipia bandit running and hiding from a drone,funniest shiet ever, completely stoneage this is pundit
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Yeah that cracked me up.Future wars will be fought by robots.
:85: that was a good one you can't make this stuff up. Pundit will be like the laikipia bandit running and hiding from a drone,funniest shiet ever, completely stoneage this is pundit
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Several government soldiers near Gashena told Reuters they had been reinforced by a huge influx of new troops, and airstrikes and drones had hit Tigrayan positions. Ethiopia has bought drones from Turkey and the United Arab Emirates.
"Now our priority is to liberate ourselves," Gizachew Muleneh, spokesman for the Amhara region, told Reuters. Tigray's forces would be pursued, he said. "We will not stop our offensive until we have eliminated them."
As government offensive pushes forward, scars of war dot Ethiopia's Amhara region
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/government-offensive-pushes-forward-scars-war-dot-ethiopias-amhara-region-2021-12-10/
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Old news. Tigray now control Gashena. it has exchanged hands 5 times now.
Turn outs the drones have 200km or 100 miles tactical distance - beyond that - it cannot be operated - so Tigray retreated away from the drone distances...that some 150 miles from Ethiopia Air defence base in Bishofu near Adis Ababa.
Unless Ethiopia airforce move the drones and their turkish operators inside - the advantage now is back with TDF. They move inside they risk an ambush on the airbase and destruction of the drones.
This will be a long drawn war.
Several government soldiers near Gashena told Reuters they had been reinforced by a huge influx of new troops, and airstrikes and drones had hit Tigrayan positions. Ethiopia has bought drones from Turkey and the United Arab Emirates.
"Now our priority is to liberate ourselves," Gizachew Muleneh, spokesman for the Amhara region, told Reuters. Tigray's forces would be pursued, he said. "We will not stop our offensive until we have eliminated them."
As government offensive pushes forward, scars of war dot Ethiopia's Amhara region
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/government-offensive-pushes-forward-scars-war-dot-ethiopias-amhara-region-2021-12-10/
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Giving the very latest update was not the point of my posting the article. The point was to show that the war is much more complicated than you've portrayed it to us. In particular, the Amharas have their own grievances and they involve the Tigrayans. In other words, it's not all about the problems that Tigrayans have presented.
Ethiopia is a beautiful country. It should not be reduced to pro-Ruto type of politics. Every country is different.
That's the point.
Old news. Tigray now control Gashena. it has exchanged hands 5 times now.
Turn outs the drones have 200km or 100 miles tactical distance - beyond that - it cannot be operated - so Tigray retreated away from the drone distances...that some 150 miles from Ethiopia Air defence base in Bishofu near Adis Ababa.
Unless Ethiopia airforce move the drones and their turkish operators inside - the advantage now is back with TDF. They move inside they risk an ambush on the airbase and destruction of the drones.
This will be a long drawn war.
Several government soldiers near Gashena told Reuters they had been reinforced by a huge influx of new troops, and airstrikes and drones had hit Tigrayan positions. Ethiopia has bought drones from Turkey and the United Arab Emirates.
"Now our priority is to liberate ourselves," Gizachew Muleneh, spokesman for the Amhara region, told Reuters. Tigray's forces would be pursued, he said. "We will not stop our offensive until we have eliminated them."
As government offensive pushes forward, scars of war dot Ethiopia's Amhara region
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/government-offensive-pushes-forward-scars-war-dot-ethiopias-amhara-region-2021-12-10/
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The Nobel Peace Prize that paved the way for war
https://indianexpress.com/article/world/abiy-ahmed-ethiopia-civil-war-nobel-prize-7674744/
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In searching for a lasting solution to the Ethiopian war, it's important to listen to all the voices in the conflict:
New York Times lies and distortion can not change facts about Ethiopian war
https://borkena.com/2021/12/15/new-york-times-lies-and-distortion-can-not-change-facts-about-ethiopian-war/
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It was very interesting to read today about the position of the president of the Somali region of Ethiopia. He does not sound like a friend of the TPLF:
Musstafa makes a claim that no Ethiopian region was brutalised by the TPLF as much as the Somali region.
Somali region president says TPLF administration was more like Unitary
https://borkena.com/2021/12/15/somali-region-president-says-tplf-administration-was-more-like-unitary/
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The Ethiopian diaspora is not different than Kenya's. It too has jts Kikuyus, Kalenjins, Luos and so on.
Ethiopian civil war divides diaspora in the US
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-59702496
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Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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When did I ever advocate for immigrants in RV including kikuyus to be punished? Are your just stupid or born stupid.
I have predicted ethiopia like civil war - starting with tribal clashes - if election are perceived to rigged.
Understand the difference btw PREDICT AND ADVOCATE.
I will never advocate for anybody to be killed - in Kenya or Ethiopia - but I can predict how conflicts get resolved by savages kill civilians
No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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Throwing your childish insults, as you like to do when called out, will not win your case.
Let's put it this way: You have ALWAYS seemed very understanding (or not overly concerned) of the possibility that Kikuyu civilians might be killed if they do not support Ruto. You have never been as worked up about their possible deaths as you now to seem to be regarding the Tigrayans.
And in terms of Abiy possibly losing the moral war, some of us believe Ruto lost his moral war after the Kiambaa church burning. You, on the other hand, admire Ruto and want him to be Kenya's next president, which is your right. You even concede, after it's pointed out to you, that he's a thief. But you insist he's a "good" thief.
You cannot fool all of us here.
When did I ever advocate for immigrants in RV including kikuyus to be punished? Are your just stupid or born stupid.
I have predicted ethiopia like civil war - starting with tribal clashes - if election are perceived to rigged.
Understand the difference btw PREDICT AND ADVOCATE.
I will never advocate for anybody to be killed - in Kenya or Ethiopia - but I can predict how conflicts get resolved by savages kill civilians
No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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How do you measure my empathy or understanding? I am like football commentator. I am not a player. The day you moron understand that - you will get over it.
Kibaki caused PEV.
Ruto had absolutely no role in PEV.
All those who died or had their properties burnt should blame Kibaki first - maybe Raila distant second.
In Ethiopia - Abiy carries almost 99 percent of the blame.
Throwing your childish insults, as you like to do when called out, will not win your case.
Let's put it this way: You have ALWAYS seemed very understanding (or not overly concerned) of the possibility that Kikuyu civilians might be killed if they do not support Ruto. You have never been as worked up about their possible deaths as you now to seem to be regarding the Tigrayans.
And in terms of Abiy possibly losing the moral war, some of us believe Ruto lost his moral war after the Kiambaa church burning. You, on the other hand, admire Ruto and want him to be Kenya's next president, which is your right. You even concede, after it's pointed out to you, that he's a thief. But you insist he's a "good" thief.
You cannot fool all of us here.
When did I ever advocate for immigrants in RV including kikuyus to be punished? Are your just stupid or born stupid.
I have predicted ethiopia like civil war - starting with tribal clashes - if election are perceived to rigged.
Understand the difference btw PREDICT AND ADVOCATE.
I will never advocate for anybody to be killed - in Kenya or Ethiopia - but I can predict how conflicts get resolved by savages kill civilians
No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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So why do you get worked up when the Amharas of Ethiopia claim that they are defending their country from the Tigrayans? Remember, they were under Tigrayan rule for 30 years. All sides of the conflict need to be listened to, in order to get a lasting solution.
You have your take on Ruto. Other Kenyans have their take on Ruto which may be vastly different from yours.
Don't play games with us.
How do you measure my empathy or understanding? I am like football commentator. I am not a player. The day you moron understand that - you will get over it.
Kibaki caused PEV.
Ruto had absolutely no role in PEV.
All those who died or had their properties burnt should blame Kibaki first - maybe Raila distant second.
Throwing your childish insults, as you like to do when called out, will not win your case.
Let's put it this way: You have ALWAYS seemed very understanding (or not overly concerned) of the possibility that Kikuyu civilians might be killed if they do not support Ruto. You have never been as worked up about their possible deaths as you now to seem to be regarding the Tigrayans.
And in terms of Abiy possibly losing the moral war, some of us believe Ruto lost his moral war after the Kiambaa church burning. You, on the other hand, admire Ruto and want him to be Kenya's next president, which is your right. You even concede, after it's pointed out to you, that he's a thief. But you insist he's a "good" thief.
You cannot fool all of us here.
When did I ever advocate for immigrants in RV including kikuyus to be punished? Are your just stupid or born stupid.
I have predicted ethiopia like civil war - starting with tribal clashes - if election are perceived to rigged.
Understand the difference btw PREDICT AND ADVOCATE.
I will never advocate for anybody to be killed - in Kenya or Ethiopia - but I can predict how conflicts get resolved by savages kill civilians
No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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So why do you get worked up when the Amharas of Ethiopia claim that they are defending their country from the Tigrayans? Remember, they were under Tigrayan rule for 30 years. All sides of the conflict need to be listened to, in order to get a lasting solution.
You have your take on Ruto. Other Kenyans have their take on Ruto which may be vastly different from yours.
Don't play games with us.
So why do you get worked up when the Amharas of Ethiopia claim that they are defending their country from the Tigrayans? Remember, they were under Tigrayan rule for 30 years. All sides of the conflict need to be listened to, in order to get a lasting solution.
You have your take on Ruto. Other Kenyans have their take on Ruto which may be vastly different from yours.
Don't play games with us.
How do you measure my empathy or understanding? I am like football commentator. I am not a player. The day you moron understand that - you will get over it.
Kibaki caused PEV.
Ruto had absolutely no role in PEV.
All those who died or had their properties burnt should blame Kibaki first - maybe Raila distant second.
Throwing your childish insults, as you like to do when called out, will not win your case.
Let's put it this way: You have ALWAYS seemed very understanding (or not overly concerned) of the possibility that Kikuyu civilians might be killed if they do not support Ruto. You have never been as worked up about their possible deaths as you now to seem to be regarding the Tigrayans.
And in terms of Abiy possibly losing the moral war, some of us believe Ruto lost his moral war after the Kiambaa church burning. You, on the other hand, admire Ruto and want him to be Kenya's next president, which is your right. You even concede, after it's pointed out to you, that he's a thief. But you insist he's a "good" thief.
You cannot fool all of us here.
When did I ever advocate for immigrants in RV including kikuyus to be punished? Are your just stupid or born stupid.
I have predicted ethiopia like civil war - starting with tribal clashes - if election are perceived to rigged.
Understand the difference btw PREDICT AND ADVOCATE.
I will never advocate for anybody to be killed - in Kenya or Ethiopia - but I can predict how conflicts get resolved by savages kill civilians
No right thinking person would want Tigrayan civilians to be punished. They need the aid. To what extent are the Tigrayan fighters complicating the aid flow? Do we really know at the moment? To what extent is it Abiy's fault? Do we really know?
However, I find your interest in Tigrayan civilians being helped to be commendable. Maybe you'll now see why some of us always advocate that innocent Kikuyus in the Northern Rift should never be punished for not supporting Ruto.
Also, I think it's too early to claim that a genocide has been committed, or that the Ethiopian government has already lost the moral war. I think it's still a very fluid situation. Furthermore, there is much we still do not know about all sides to the conflict.
Ethiopia gov should allow Aid to flow to Tigray otherwise another Rwanda is unfolding - and Tigray will similarly kill others.
Before anything - Aid including medicine - need to flow to Tigray region.
As long as Ethiopia gov is blockading food aid and criticial medicine it has long lost the war.
Once you lose the moral war - then it's over.
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Again when did I have problem with Tigray and Amhara fights. I reckon Tigray will beat Amharas. But the poor women and kids dying from starvation need food aid and medicine.
Gov should not fight like bunch of savages. All I want is free food Aid and medicine by UN to flow to Tigray.
Otherwise when it come to war - I think Tigray forces will win.
Kalenjin and Maasai fight - and have fought for long - they take lunch breaks - even night breaks - women and kids are outside. That is how modern fight should be done.
A fight btw Kalenjin and KIkuyu unfortunately has no rules...both sides need to work on that if they cannot avoid war. Unfortunately we talking civilian savages versus civilian savages...warriors versus mungiki. Both sides blame each other for violating the war codes...Kalenjin according to our farm worker in 1992...changed their war code when they discovered Mungiki or Kikuyus were not sticking to it...killing women and violating the dead...by cutting body parts...and taking away heads. In 1992 - I heard kikuyus complaining kalenjin were killing boys even tearing pregnant to confirm if baby was boy or not - I dont know about killing of boys - need to research but recall all that from 1993 or 1995 former warrior who I stayed with for 3 months as he was hired by my mad to uproot old tree stump . Kikuyus feel Kiambaa church was over the top. These are savages fighting savages. I will be LAST PERSON TO KILL SOMEONE FOR ANYTHING.
There are war crimes - and Ethiopia army are not savages - they need to fight clean - avoid doing what Derg did - two million ethiopia mostly in Tigray died in 1984 - Tigrays eventually won - and punished Ethiopias for 30yrs.
So why do you get worked up when the Amharas of Ethiopia claim that they are defending their country from the Tigrayans? Remember, they were under Tigrayan rule for 30 years. All sides of the conflict need to be listened to, in order to get a lasting solution.
You have your take on Ruto. Other Kenyans have their take on Ruto which may be vastly different from yours
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All you are presenting here is your take, mixed with justifications to make you sound "clean." The fact is some of us can see right through you and believe that if you and Ruto had it your way, Kenya would be going through a worse experience than Ethiopia is at the moment.
Go glorify the shifta war and other secessionists. In your dreams you probably see Ruto leading an army from the Northern Rift to Nairobi, aided by Shifta combatants! Kenya is worth defending, whether or not one tribe loses power after a long spell.
Again when did I have problem with Tigray and Amhara fights. I reckon Tigray will beat Amharas. But the poor women and kids dying from starvation need food aid and medicine.
Gov should not fight like bunch of savages. All I want is free food Aid and medicine by UN to flow to Tigray.
Otherwise when it come to war - I think Tigray forces will win.
Kalenjin and Maasai fight - and have fought for long - they take lunch breaks - even night breaks - women and kids are outside. That is how modern fight should be done.
A fight btw Kalenjin and KIkuyu unfortunately has no rules...both sides need to work on that if they cannot avoid war.
There are war crimes - and Ethiopia army are not savages - they need to fight clean - avoid doing what Derg did - two million ethiopia mostly in Tigray died in 1984 - Tigrays eventually won - and punished Ethiopias for 30yrs.
So why do you get worked up when the Amharas of Ethiopia claim that they are defending their country from the Tigrayans? Remember, they were under Tigrayan rule for 30 years. All sides of the conflict need to be listened to, in order to get a lasting solution.
You have your take on Ruto. Other Kenyans have their take on Ruto which may be vastly different from yours
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People fight all the time when they disagree and they cannot resolve their conflict peaceful. Friends fight. Families fight. Tribes fight. Countries fight.
My dream is to see Ruto winning in free and fair elections. Why would I want Ruto to start a war when I know in war there is no winner.
But if you make Ruto and Kalenjin feel that war is inevitable way to resolve the conflict; war will be waged.
What is more important is to avoid a situation where people feel they have to fight...either in your own household or in the country.
That is why it's very important rather than trying to scare Kalenjin with Tigray atrocities to call for FREE< FAIR AND CREDIBLE ELECTION.
If Kalenjin decide that 2022 will be resolved through a fight; a fight will happen. My business is to predict how fed up they are and how their hunger for war is....
I am quite certain now that their hunger for war is at all time high...and if Ruto is rigged...we will become another Ethiopia.
Do I want Ethiopia. Hell NO.
That is why I am very concerned when I see election being mismanaged and likes of Matiangi lighting cigarettes in a room full of jet fuel.
All you are presenting here is your take, mixed with justifications to make you sound "clean." The fact is some of us can see right through you and believe that if you and Ruto had it your way, Kenya would be going through a worse experience than Ethiopia is at the moment.
Go glorify the shifta war and other secessionists. In your dreams you probably see Ruto leading an army from the Northern Rift to Nairobi! Kenya is worth defending, whether or not one tribe loses power after a long spell.
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In addition to childish insults and crying, your other trick is to try to put the other person on the defensive. Good try. Ati now, Ruto is this nice and clean guy whose only problem is that others are trying to rig him out.
No, the fact is Ruto has always had a lot of stinking baggage, ages before he got onto the ballot. So it is perfectly right for some Kenyans to have serious reservations about him.
A Kenyan can be strongly against rigging and still be very well justified in vehemently opposing Ruto.
Now run and try to pin the "rigging" label on me so that I can stop criticizing Ruto.
People fight all the time when they disagree and they cannot resolve their conflict peaceful.
My dream is to see Ruto winning in free and fair elections. Why would I want Ruto to start a war when I know in war there is no winner.
But if you make Ruto and Kalenjin feel that war is inevitable way to resolve the conflict; war will be waged.
All you are presenting here is your take, mixed with justifications to make you sound "clean." The fact is some of us can see right through you and believe that if you and Ruto had it your way, Kenya would be going through a worse experience than Ethiopia is at the moment.
Go glorify the shifta war and other secessionists. In your dreams you probably see Ruto leading an army from the Northern Rift to Nairobi! Kenya is worth defending, whether or not one tribe loses power after a long spell.
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Are you Matiangi?
IEBC are doing a great job.
My problem right now is Matiangi and Koome.
Seem Koome the CJ has gotten the message - we need supreme court where people can rush to if there is a problem.
Now our problem is Matiangi and 8 ministers - who are openly playing dirt politics.
It's important knowing the nature of Kalenjin savagery that election be beyond reproach.
Otherwise they will start war. I didnt make Kalenjin savages - that is just historical happenstances. I also didnt put more than 2 million non-immigrants kenyans in Rift valley living amongst kalenjin and now sitting ducks in case of a war.
Kalenjin lost 2002 - it was free and fair - margins huge. They sucked up their loss. I was nearly beaten several times as I taunted them majority KANU guys.
In 2010 - same thing - beaten blue - COK2010 - Ruto accepted.
We do not want another 2007.
We were very luckly in 2007 because if Annan had failed - KDF were already out - and if KDF had split like police - we have Ethiopia.
Bottomline: Try to beat Ruto very cleanly or prepare for war. HIYO TU.
If you're thinking of rigging - please do it secretively and intelligently - KIFUA - OPENLY - is almost poking eyes of a beast
In addition to childish insults and crying, your other trick is to try to put the other person on the defensive. Good try. Ati now, Ruto is this nice and clean guy whose only problem is that others are trying to rig him out.
No, the fact is Ruto has always had a lot of stinking baggage, ages before he got onto the ballot. So it is perfectly right for some Kenyans to have serious reservations about him.
A Kenyan can be strongly against rigging and still be very well justified in vehemently opposing Ruto.
Now run and try to pin the "rigging" label on me so that I can stop criticizing Ruto.
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Here we go again. Talking from both sides of your mouth. You're amazing.
Are you Matiangi?
IEBC are doing a great job.
My problem right now is Matiangi and Koome.
Seem Koome the CJ has gotten the message - we need supreme court where people can rush to if there is a problem.
Now our problem is Matiangi and 8 ministers - who are openly playing dirt politics.
It's important knowing the nature of Kalenjin savagery that election be beyond reproach.
Otherwise they will start war. I didnt make Kalenjin savages - that is just historical happenstances. I also didnt put more than 2 million non-immigrants kenyans in Rift valley living amongst kalenjin and now sitting ducks in case of a war.
Kalenjin lost 2002 - it was free and fair - margins huge. They sucked up their loss. I was nearly beaten several times as I taunted them majority KANU guys.
In 2010 - same thing - beaten blue - COK2010 - Ruto accepted.
We do not want another 2007.
We were very luckly in 2007 because if Annan had failed - KDF were already out - and if KDF had split like police - we have Ethiopia.
Bottomline: Try to beat Ruto very cleanly or prepare for war. HIYO TU.
If you're thinking of rigging - please do it secretively and intelligently - KIFUA - OPENLY - is almost poking eyes of a beast
In addition to childish insults and crying, your other trick is to try to put the other person on the defensive. Good try. Ati now, Ruto is this nice and clean guy whose only problem is that others are trying to rig him out.
No, the fact is Ruto has always had a lot of stinking baggage, ages before he got onto the ballot. So it is perfectly right for some Kenyans to have serious reservations about him.
A Kenyan can be strongly against rigging and still be very well justified in vehemently opposing Ruto.
Now run and try to pin the "rigging" label on me so that I can stop criticizing Ruto.
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What is the other side?
I have always maintained that based on the players in 2022 - election in 2022 better be free, fair and credible.
You can rig Raila 10 times - Luos will throw stones for a day or two. This one is different.
That if any of institutions needed to make that happen fail.
There is very high likelihood that Kalenjin will unleash their savagery starting mostly on the immigrants communities living amongst them.
Gov will respond with their own savagery.
Kalenjin being very good fighters will dig in.
Eventually gov - especially with Ruto being DPORK - will split into two camps.
And that little BOY IS START OF A CIVIL WAR.
Museveni himself is praying for a civil war I suspect.
Here we go again. Talking from both sides of your mouth. You're amazing.
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With such well known Kalenjin warrior ferocity, why bother with the vote in August? Why not simply crown Ruto Emperor of Kenya? After all, it seems he's simply granting us the formality of going through an election. Everything in the universe points to the fact that he's God's chosen leader for Kenya. Right?
What is the other side?
I have always maintained that based on the players in 2022 - election in 2022 better be free, fair and credible.
You can rig Raila 10 times - Luos will throw stones for a day or two. This one is different.
That if any of institutions needed to make that happen fail.
There is very high likelihood that Kalenjin will unleash their savagery starting mostly on the immigrants communities living amongst them.
Gov will respond with their own savagery.
Kalenjin being very good fighters will dig in.
Eventually gov - especially with Ruto being DPORK - will split into two camps.
And that little BOY IS START OF A CIVIL WAR.
Museveni himself is praying for a civil war I suspect.
Here we go again. Talking from both sides of your mouth. You're amazing.
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The best fighters are normally the least to be provoked.
That is how they survive for long.
Trigger happy ones like Luos soon go extinct.
Kalenjin believe in fairness and in project kenya.
Moi left - peaceful - after holding kenya for 24yrs.
For Kalenjin to wage war - it not light decision - they would have considered it worth dying for it.
It wont be about Ruto.
It will be about their destiny as a people.
They wont be fighting for Ruto,
They will be fighting an injustice against Kalenjin nation.'
The same way Tigrays are not fighting for their gov - but for their identity as proud Tigray people.
Have you heard Ngwee from Kalenjin...
Be very afraid when Kalenjin go underground.
With such well known Kalenjin warrior ferocity, why bother with the vote in August? Why not simply crown Ruto Emperor of Kenya? After all, it seems he's simply granting us the formality of going through an election. Everything in the universe points to the fact that he's God's chosen leader for Kenya. Right?
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When I look at you I see a number of illnesses and conditions which cannot be cured with aspirin tablets: rabies, schizophrenia, early stages of dementia, and acute paranoia.
The best fighters are normally the least to be provoked.
That is how they survive for long.
Trigger happy ones like Luos soon go extinct.
Kalenjin believe in fairness and in project kenya.
Moi left - peaceful - after holding kenya for 24yrs.
For Kalenjin to wage war - it not light decision - they would have considered it worth dying for it.
It wont be about Ruto.
It will be about their destiny as a people.
With such well known Kalenjin warrior ferocity, why bother with the vote in August? Why not simply crown Ruto Emperor of Kenya? After all, it seems he's simply granting us the formality of going through an election. Everything in the universe points to the fact that he's God's chosen leader for Kenya. Right?
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I remain yours truly dispassionate pundit.
Ready to discuss any topic on earth.
The warts and all that.
I study politics, actors, people, and name it.
I make predictions.
I get some wrong. Rarely.
When I look at you I see a number of illnesses and conditions which cannot be cured with aspirin tablets: rabies, schizophrenia, early stages of dementia, and acute paranoia.
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Ethiopian Gov't: Almost all areas in Amhara region free of rebels
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It seems like the Tigrayans are now begging for peace.
I think drones will change the art of warfare in Africa. It will be more technology than manpower.
New York Times:
Foreign drones tip the balance in Ethiopia’s civil war
A stunning military victory this month for Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s embattled prime minister, was made possible by a fleet of combat drones, recently acquired from foreign allies who hope to keep him in power. The drones pummeled Tigrayan rebels, erasing months of battlefield gains and resulting in their withdrawal.
Over the past four months, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey and Iran have quietly supplied the Ethiopian leader with some of the latest armed drones, even as the U.S. and African governments urged a cease-fire and peace talks, according to Western diplomats who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The motives of Abiy’s allies vary: Some hope to make money, while others aim to gain an edge in a strategic region or to back a winner in the spiraling conflict that has engulfed Africa’s second most populous nation.
Response: Debretsion Gebremichael, the Tigrayan leader, has called for a cease-fire followed by peace talks. “We trust that our bold act of withdrawal will be a decisive opening for peace,” he wrote in a letter to the U.N. secretary general.
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I read the full article yesterday (Monday) and found it very interesting. But I could not share it here because you need a subscription.
It seems like the Tigrayans are now begging for peace.
I think drones will change the art of warfare in Africa. It will be more technology than manpower.
New York Times:
Foreign drones tip the balance in Ethiopia’s civil war
A stunning military victory this month for Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s embattled prime minister, was made possible by a fleet of combat drones, recently acquired from foreign allies who hope to keep him in power. The drones pummeled Tigrayan rebels, erasing months of battlefield gains and resulting in their withdrawal.
Over the past four months, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey and Iran have quietly supplied the Ethiopian leader with some of the latest armed drones, even as the U.S. and African governments urged a cease-fire and peace talks, according to Western diplomats who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The motives of Abiy’s allies vary: Some hope to make money, while others aim to gain an edge in a strategic region or to back a winner in the spiraling conflict that has engulfed Africa’s second most populous nation.
Response: Debretsion Gebremichael, the Tigrayan leader, has called for a cease-fire followed by peace talks. “We trust that our bold act of withdrawal will be a decisive opening for peace,” he wrote in a letter to the U.N. secretary general.
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Tigray(kalenjin) have been almost vaporized the human toll is huge it will takes decades to replace current generation who have been killed very sad. There leaders just like pundit stuck their heads in the sad.
Am on record from day one saying Tigrays will face the full effects of this war no way they were gonna win.
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Once a rebel force starts asking for peace then you know things are bad for TPLF. TPLF should have stayed within Tigray and so put pressure on Addis to give more autonomy to the regions. By crossing the borders of Tigray and trying to occupy other regions, TPLF left the rest of the regions to decide between them and the other devil they know.
Tigray(kalenjin) have been almost vaporized the human toll is huge it will takes decades to replace current generation who have been killed very sad. There leaders just like pundit stuck their heads in the sad.
Am on record from day one saying Tigrays will face the full effects of this war no way they were gonna win.
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This is long war of attrition. You dont quite understand how tenacious Tigray people fight. The last time they fought Derg from 1976 to 1990s. 16yrs of war. That about the same time the Nandi fought the British. Afghan fought NATO for 20yrs.
The more you kill Tigrays - the more you fuel the rest to join the war for survival - and the harder it is for Ethiopia to prevail.
The rest of Ethiopia are fighting an ego war - Tigrays are fighting a war of survival.
Tigray(kalenjin) have been almost vaporized the human toll is huge it will takes decades to replace current generation who have been killed very sad. There leaders just like pundit stuck their heads in the sad.
Am on record from day one saying Tigrays will face the full effects of this war no way they were gonna win.
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Their argument - they were securing food aid - by opening up the roads. The drones definitely changed the war as Turkish drones and pilots have altered the war. Now they have to fight slowly...
Once a rebel force starts asking for peace then you know things are bad for TPLF. TPLF should have stayed within Tigray and so put pressure on Addis to give more autonomy to the regions. By crossing the borders of Tigray and trying to occupy other regions, TPLF left the rest of the regions to decide between them and the other devil they know.
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Or purchase their own drones.
Where do Tigrayans get their military help? I suspect Egypt and Sudan. These two do not have an interest in a strong Ethiopia. Otherwise I do not see any other allies for rebels in Ethiopia.
Their argument - they were securing food aid - by opening up the roads. The drones definitely changed the war as Turkish drones and pilots have altered the war. Now they have to fight slowly...
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They cant purchase weapons because they are not a country. No one can sell them drones.
Egypt are interested in endless civil war - because a decisive win by either side - mean ethiopia can focus on economic growth - and they will need power/water - from the same nile that 100M Egyptian rely on.
So basically we have 100M ethiopia interest versus 100M Egyptian interest.
Egypt will fund Tigray in drips....enough to sustain a long drawn war..not enough for a decisive win...if they become another somalia...the better.
Remember Egypt has been key financier of Eritrea to cause Ethiopia problems....because it in Egypt interest to keep Ethiopia forever in war - otherwise the nile dies.
Once the water that get "wasted" in south Sudan gigantic swamp can be canalized through Jonglei - maybe this pressure will reduce.
Or purchase their own drones.
Where do Tigrayans get their military help? I suspect Egypt and Sudan. These two do not have an interest in a strong Ethiopia. Otherwise I do not see any other allies for rebels in Ethiopia.
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You are shameless. As usual, you're speaking from both ends of your mouth. One minute, you're a tribal warrior, pounding your chest. The next minute you're crying another song.
From Day 1 of the war you were jumping up and down with excitement here. You thought you could use the Tigrayans in your continuous effort to scare us with the so-called "Kalenjin warrior tradition." It had nothing to do with real sympathy for Ethiopia, the country of beautiful people, wonderful culture and history, fast runners and a great ally of Kenya. It had to do with serving the Ruto and Kalenjin nationalist cause, at the expense of everyone else. You even went to the extent of glorifying the shifta war to scare us.
But in your wild excitement (shouting, "Tigray taking over Ethiopia") you could not see the drone that was silently aiming at your behind. The missile from the drone was so fast that you still do not really know what hit you.
Now run and go warn your beloved warriors that warfare methods changed while you were chanting tribal war songs, half naked, half drunk.
The Kale community has its smart people, just like in any other tribe (you're certainly not one of them). But the sad thing is that people like you make a whole tribe to look stupid because you drown out any moderate or smart-thinking fellow tribesmen with your shameless loudness. Or you portray the moderates as sellouts to other tribes, in your rabid attempt to win 100% support for your tribal hero.
There is a lesson here for every Kenyan, regardless of tribe. :D :D :D
They cant purchase weapons because they are not a country. No one can sell them drones.
Egypt are interested in endless civil war - because a decisive win by either side - mean ethiopia can focus on economic growth - and they will need power/water - from the same nile that 100M Egyptian rely on.
So basically we have 100M ethiopia interest versus 100M Egyptian interest.
Egypt will fund Tigray in drips....enough to sustain a long drawn war..not enough for a decisive win...if they become another somalia...the better.
Remember Egypt has been key financier of Eritrea to cause Ethiopia problems....because it in Egypt interest to keep Ethiopia forever in war - otherwise the nile dies.
Once the water that get "wasted" in south Sudan gigantic swamp can be canalized through Jonglei - maybe this pressure will reduce.
Or purchase their own drones.
Where do Tigrayans get their military help? I suspect Egypt and Sudan. These two do not have an interest in a strong Ethiopia. Otherwise I do not see any other allies for rebels in Ethiopia.
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This is long war of attrition. You dont quite understand how tenacious Tigray people fight. The last time they fought Derg from 1976 to 1990s. 16yrs of war. That about the same time the Nandi fought the British. Afghan fought NATO for 20yrs.
The more you kill Tigrays - the more you fuel the rest to join the war for survival - and the harder it is for Ethiopia to prevail.
The rest of Ethiopia are fighting an ego war - Tigrays are fighting a war of survival.
Tigray(kalenjin) have been almost vaporized the human toll is huge it will takes decades to replace current generation who have been killed very sad. There leaders just like pundit stuck their heads in the sad.
Am on record from day one saying Tigrays will face the full effects of this war no way they were gonna win.
Of course I reckoned without the Nandi :D
War today is not the one fought in the 20 century my friend lots of dynamics have changed. With development in infrastructure, communication and integrity no one can fight a guerilla war like the 70s.
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Anybody here knows where this Gikomba fool emerged from?
You are shameless. As usual, you're speaking from both ends of your mouth. One minute, you're a tribal warrior, pounding your chest. The next minute you're crying another song.
From Day 1 of the war you were jumping up and down with excitement here. You thought you could use the Tigrayans in your continuous effort to scare us with the so-called "Kalenjin warrior tradition." It had nothing to do with real sympathy for Ethiopia, the country of beautiful people, wonderful culture and history, fast runners and a great ally of Kenya. It had to do with serving the Ruto and Kalenjin nationalist cause, at the expense of everyone else. You even went to the extent of glorifying the shifta war to scare us.
But in your wild excitement (shouting, "Tigray taking over Ethiopia") you could not see the drone that was silently aiming at your behind. The missile from the drone was so fast that you still do not really know what hit you.
Now run and go warn your beloved warriors that warfare methods changed while you were chanting tribal war songs, half naked, half drunk.
The Kale community has its smart people, just like in any other tribe (you're certainly not one of them). But the sad thing is that people like you make a whole tribe to look stupid because you drown out any moderate or smart-thinking fellow tribesmen with your shameless loudness, or you portray them as sellouts to other tribes, in your rabid attempt to win 100% support for your tribal hero. :D :D :D
They cant purchase weapons because they are not a country. No one can sell them drones.
Egypt are interested in endless civil war - because a decisive win by either side - mean ethiopia can focus on economic growth - and they will need power/water - from the same nile that 100M Egyptian rely on.
So basically we have 100M ethiopia interest versus 100M Egyptian interest.
Egypt will fund Tigray in drips....enough to sustain a long drawn war..not enough for a decisive win...if they become another somalia...the better.
Remember Egypt has been key financier of Eritrea to cause Ethiopia problems....because it in Egypt interest to keep Ethiopia forever in war - otherwise the nile dies.
Once the water that get "wasted" in south Sudan gigantic swamp can be canalized through Jonglei - maybe this pressure will reduce.
Or purchase their own drones.
Where do Tigrayans get their military help? I suspect Egypt and Sudan. These two do not have an interest in a strong Ethiopia. Otherwise I do not see any other allies for rebels in Ethiopia.
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Afgans recently won against NATO with all kind of weaponry baby Abiy can think about. I dont see a situation where Tigray agree to be part of project Ethiopia. I dont see how Ethiopia gov can hope to govern Tigray. So it's either they are let to become a Lesotho or it's long drawn civil war.
Of course I reckoned without the Nandi :D
War today is not the one fought in the 20 century my friend lots of dynamics have changed. With development in infrastructure, communication and integrity no one can fight a guerilla war like the 70s.
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I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
Anybody here knows where this Gikomba fool emerged from?
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We're still waiting for evidence of your high IQ. :D :D :D
I'm a graduate of Gikomba University Extension School (courses are taught at night).
Anybody here knows where this Gikomba fool emerged from?
You are shameless. As usual, you're speaking from both ends of your mouth. One minute, you're a tribal warrior, pounding your chest. The next minute you're crying another song.
From Day 1 of the war you were jumping up and down with excitement here. You thought you could use the Tigrayans in your continuous effort to scare us with the so-called "Kalenjin warrior tradition." It had nothing to do with real sympathy for Ethiopia, the country of beautiful people, wonderful culture and history, fast runners and a great ally of Kenya. It had to do with serving the Ruto and Kalenjin nationalist cause, at the expense of everyone else. You even went to the extent of glorifying the shifta war to scare us.
But in your wild excitement (shouting, "Tigray taking over Ethiopia") you could not see the drone that was silently aiming at your behind. The missile from the drone was so fast that you still do not really know what hit you.
Now run and go warn your beloved warriors that warfare methods changed while you were chanting tribal war songs, half naked, half drunk.
The Kale community has its smart people, just like in any other tribe (you're certainly not one of them). But the sad thing is that people like you make a whole tribe to look stupid because you drown out any moderate or smart-thinking fellow tribesmen with your shameless loudness, or you portray them as sellouts to other tribes, in your rabid attempt to win 100% support for your tribal hero. :D :D :D
They cant purchase weapons because they are not a country. No one can sell them drones.
Egypt are interested in endless civil war - because a decisive win by either side - mean ethiopia can focus on economic growth - and they will need power/water - from the same nile that 100M Egyptian rely on.
So basically we have 100M ethiopia interest versus 100M Egyptian interest.
Egypt will fund Tigray in drips....enough to sustain a long drawn war..not enough for a decisive win...if they become another somalia...the better.
Remember Egypt has been key financier of Eritrea to cause Ethiopia problems....because it in Egypt interest to keep Ethiopia forever in war - otherwise the nile dies.
Once the water that get "wasted" in south Sudan gigantic swamp can be canalized through Jonglei - maybe this pressure will reduce.
Or purchase their own drones.
Where do Tigrayans get their military help? I suspect Egypt and Sudan. These two do not have an interest in a strong Ethiopia. Otherwise I do not see any other allies for rebels in Ethiopia.
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Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
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This is long war of attrition. You dont quite understand how tenacious Tigray people fight. The last time they fought Derg from 1976 to 1990s. 16yrs of war. That about the same time the Nandi fought the British. Afghan fought NATO for 20yrs.
The more you kill Tigrays - the more you fuel the rest to join the war for survival - and the harder it is for Ethiopia to prevail.
The rest of Ethiopia are fighting an ego war - Tigrays are fighting a war of survival.
Tigray(kalenjin) have been almost vaporized the human toll is huge it will takes decades to replace current generation who have been killed very sad. There leaders just like pundit stuck their heads in the sad.
Am on record from day one saying Tigrays will face the full effects of this war no way they were gonna win.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
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But these are tribal nations? How would Tigray defeat look like? Ethiopia gov wins - rout out TDF - install their governor to run Tigray region. How is that not a foreign occupation? This is what Abbiy did last year - but now even getting one Tigray to be installed as puppet will be difficult due to genocide....so Abbiy will find hard to colonize it.
Ethiopia is federal state. So this war btw states or nations.
Yes for Tigray the fight for Ethiopia is probably lost. I think they were ambitious to think they can walk back to Adis and lord over Ethiopians. The rejection has almost been total..and it will almost be impossible to rule over Ethiopians who hate them.
Now they need pursue secession. Now they will become Lesotho landlocked. That will work - they just build an airforce.
For now they should think strategically to declare Independence, Try to get US/UN support, and get a few countries recognizing their independence.
They have to do a land grab either to red sea or sudan. There are tigrayans in Eritrea...but they probably hate Tigrayans in Ethiopia.
So for now their best hope is to go for Sudan border.....annex territory towards Sudan.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
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I heard they withdrew so as to give peace a chance. Whichever way, Eth is f'ed up. Leadership that is authoritarian.
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But these are tribal nations? How would Tigray defeat look like? Ethiopia gov wins - rout out TDF - install their governor to run Tigray region. How is that not a foreign occupation? This is what Abbiy did last year - but now even getting one Tigray to be installed as puppet will be difficult due to genocide....so Abbiy will find hard to colonize it.
Ethiopia is federal state. So this war btw states or nations.
Yes for Tigray the fight for Ethiopia is probably lost. I think they were ambitious to think they can walk back to Adis and lord over Ethiopians. The rejection has almost been total..and it will almost be impossible to rule over Ethiopians who hate them.
Now they need pursue secession. Now they will become Lesotho landlocked. That will work - they just build an airforce.
For now they should think strategically to declare Independence, Try to get US/UN support, and get a few countries recognizing their independence.
They have to do a land grab either to red sea or sudan. There are tigrayans in Eritrea...but they probably hate Tigrayans in Ethiopia.
So for now their best hope is to go for Sudan border.....annex territory towards Sudan.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
Their peace offering is just a ruse to buy them time to regroup and come up with new strategies of destabilization(maybe even including some ideas like the secession you mention). The US a terrible ally and will switch sides on a dime depending where they perceive their interests to be. They don't care about Tigrayans. Europeans may be a different case of genuine concern.
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Us current president is the genuine European type so Tigray have soft spot and UN have seen how horrible Ethiopia gov has been..I think prima facia they have established ground for self determination.Its going to hard to swallow because they had enormous wealth in Adis.Secession look like sure bet.Ethiopeans would rather see them gone anyway
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Pundit,
Don't remind me of the early days. Back then I used to think that you and some others here were the owners of this forum. I had no idea that nothing could have been further from the truth. You're just a houseboy! Creating your own Internet forum is actually impossible! But you will enter one that is owned by someone else and beat your chest, as though you're the owner. It all has to do with insecurity and a hidden inferiority complex.
Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
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You are crazy! Is this the best that your African warrior tradition can come up with in terms of a way out for Tigray? God help them!
But these are tribal nations? How would Tigray defeat look like? Ethiopia gov wins - rout out TDF - install their governor to run Tigray region. How is that not a foreign occupation? This is what Abbiy did last year - but now even getting one Tigray to be installed as puppet will be difficult due to genocide....so Abbiy will find hard to colonize it.
Ethiopia is federal state. So this war btw states or nations.
Yes for Tigray the fight for Ethiopia is probably lost. I think they were ambitious to think they can walk back to Adis and lord over Ethiopians. The rejection has almost been total..and it will almost be impossible to rule over Ethiopians who hate them.
Now they need pursue secession. Now they will become Lesotho landlocked. That will work - they just build an airforce.
For now they should think strategically to declare Independence, Try to get US/UN support, and get a few countries recognizing their independence.
They have to do a land grab either to red sea or sudan. There are tigrayans in Eritrea...but they probably hate Tigrayans in Ethiopia.
So for now their best hope is to go for Sudan border.....annex territory towards Sudan.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
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You are crazy! Is this the best that your African warrior tradition can come up with in terms of a way out for Tigray? God help them!
But these are tribal nations? How would Tigray defeat look like? Ethiopia gov wins - rout out TDF - install their governor to run Tigray region. How is that not a foreign occupation? This is what Abbiy did last year - but now even getting one Tigray to be installed as puppet will be difficult due to genocide....so Abbiy will find hard to colonize it.
Ethiopia is federal state. So this war btw states or nations.
Yes for Tigray the fight for Ethiopia is probably lost. I think they were ambitious to think they can walk back to Adis and lord over Ethiopians. The rejection has almost been total..and it will almost be impossible to rule over Ethiopians who hate them.
Now they need pursue secession. Now they will become Lesotho landlocked. That will work - they just build an airforce.
For now they should think strategically to declare Independence, Try to get US/UN support, and get a few countries recognizing their independence.
They have to do a land grab either to red sea or sudan. There are tigrayans in Eritrea...but they probably hate Tigrayans in Ethiopia.
So for now their best hope is to go for Sudan border.....annex territory towards Sudan.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
PLEASE STOP BEING PERSONAL!!!
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You think Pundit never throws personal insults?
You are crazy! Is this the best that your African warrior tradition can come up with in terms of a way out for Tigray? God help them!
But these are tribal nations? How would Tigray defeat look like? Ethiopia gov wins - rout out TDF - install their governor to run Tigray region. How is that not a foreign occupation? This is what Abbiy did last year - but now even getting one Tigray to be installed as puppet will be difficult due to genocide....so Abbiy will find hard to colonize it.
Ethiopia is federal state. So this war btw states or nations.
Yes for Tigray the fight for Ethiopia is probably lost. I think they were ambitious to think they can walk back to Adis and lord over Ethiopians. The rejection has almost been total..and it will almost be impossible to rule over Ethiopians who hate them.
Now they need pursue secession. Now they will become Lesotho landlocked. That will work - they just build an airforce.
For now they should think strategically to declare Independence, Try to get US/UN support, and get a few countries recognizing their independence.
They have to do a land grab either to red sea or sudan. There are tigrayans in Eritrea...but they probably hate Tigrayans in Ethiopia.
So for now their best hope is to go for Sudan border.....annex territory towards Sudan.
I wouldn't compare it to a foreign occupation. Especially not by a power that can simply disentangle when they get tired. Ethiopians don't have that luxury to just stop. It's a bit like stopping to go after a snake you know is in your house because it has moved into a far corner. So you have two equally motivated foes. When Tigray fought against the Derg, they were fighting a foe that was universally hated in the country, so they didn't do it alone.
PLEASE STOP BEING PERSONAL!!!
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Pundit,
Don't remind me of the early days. Back then I used to think that you and some others here were the owners of this forum. I had no idea that nothing could have been further from the truth. You're just a houseboy! Creating your own Internet forum is actually impossible! But you will enter one that is owned by someone else and beat your chest, as though you're the owner. It all has to do with insecurity and a hidden inferiority complex.
Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
Early days for chokora is like three months ago..90 percent of folks have more than 20 yrs early days since days of rcbowen under moi.After njuri..who is 10yrs old here..is an idiot like you derailing debate with nonsense.My friend if I hate gema I won't have married one and bore three kids.Get a grip of yourself.. understand sometimes we say things in light touch.Some guys here have 30yrs online experience in forums like this..light touch and go..don't be emotional..this not worthy ..don't derail debates with nonsense..don't hold grudges..make you points n go home.For example how many kalenjin know there is war in Ethiopia...almost zero..if you kill all Tigrayan...who cares ..most people don't even know they exist.If I say kalenjin fight like Tigray..it doesnt you derail every thread with Tigray have lost so kalenjin have lost...you need mental health assessment.You gonna hate Tigrayan coz of my analogy...crazy dude you need see a shrink.
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The problem with you is that you want to have it both ways.
What you say matters and you must be called out if some of us strongly disagree with what you say. That is how it should be. I do not care who you married.
Pundit,
Don't remind me of the early days. Back then I used to think that you and some others here were the owners of this forum. I had no idea that nothing could have been further from the truth. You're just a houseboy! Creating your own Internet forum is actually impossible! But you will enter one that is owned by someone else and beat your chest, as though you're the owner. It all has to do with insecurity and a hidden inferiority complex.
Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
Early days for chokora is like three months ago..90 percent of folks have more than 20 yrs early days since days of rcbowen under moi.After njuri..who is 10yrs old here..is an idiot like you derailing debate with nonsense.My friend if I hate gema I won't have married one and bore three kids.Get a grip of yourself.. understand sometimes we say things in light touch.Some guys here have 30yrs online experience in forums like this..light touch and go..don't be emotional..this not worthy ..don't derail debates with nonsense..don't hold grudges..make you points n go home.For example how many kalenjin know there is war in Ethiopia...almost zero..if you kill all Tigrayan...who cares ..most people don't even know they exist.If I say kalenjin fight like Tigray..it doesnt you derail every thread with Tigray have lost so kalenjin have lost...you need mental health assessment
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The problem with you is that you want to have it both ways.
What you say matters and you must be called out if some of us strongly disagree with what you say. That is how it should be. I do not care who you married.
Pundit,
Don't remind me of the early days. Back then I used to think that you and some others here were the owners of this forum. I had no idea that nothing could have been further from the truth. You're just a houseboy! Creating your own Internet forum is actually impossible! But you will enter one that is owned by someone else and beat your chest, as though you're the owner. It all has to do with insecurity and a hidden inferiority complex.
Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
Early days for chokora is like three months ago..90 percent of folks have more than 20 yrs early days since days of rcbowen under moi.After njuri..who is 10yrs old here..is an idiot like you derailing debate with nonsense.My friend if I hate gema I won't have married one and bore three kids.Get a grip of yourself.. understand sometimes we say things in light touch.Some guys here have 30yrs online experience in forums like this..light touch and go..don't be emotional..this not worthy ..don't derail debates with nonsense..don't hold grudges..make you points n go home.For example how many kalenjin know there is war in Ethiopia...almost zero..if you kill all Tigrayan...who cares ..most people don't even know they exist.If I say kalenjin fight like Tigray..it doesnt you derail every thread with Tigray have lost so kalenjin have lost...you need mental health assessment
Call me for what..I am nobody..I speak my mind...I am not on gov payroll.
.I am not politician...you're mentally ill. I support Ruto but you need to direct your anger to Ruto and Raila...not me.My support for Ruto doesn't or my heritage as kalenjin gives me no responsibility at all for what Ruto or kalenjin do.What I do..as RV pundit..call me out..if I support genocide against Tigray like you do please let me know..it almost you support it because you think it will dissuade kalenjin in the future..mental illness
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Here we go again. So what else is new? :D :D :D
The problem with you is that you want to have it both ways.
What you say matters and you must be called out if some of us strongly disagree with what you say. That is how it should be. I do not care who you married.
Pundit,
Don't remind me of the early days. Back then I used to think that you and some others here were the owners of this forum. I had no idea that nothing could have been further from the truth. You're just a houseboy! Creating your own Internet forum is actually impossible! But you will enter one that is owned by someone else and beat your chest, as though you're the owner. It all has to do with insecurity and a hidden inferiority complex.
Most folks here initial instinct was to kick him back to where he emerged from.
The cry baby must have discovered internet yesterday.
I all the time thought he was your creation. :D :D :D
Next time praise guys from Ololo. You see there others like from Gikomba who are worse.
Early days for chokora is like three months ago..90 percent of folks have more than 20 yrs early days since days of rcbowen under moi.After njuri..who is 10yrs old here..is an idiot like you derailing debate with nonsense.My friend if I hate gema I won't have married one and bore three kids.Get a grip of yourself.. understand sometimes we say things in light touch.Some guys here have 30yrs online experience in forums like this..light touch and go..don't be emotional..this not worthy ..don't derail debates with nonsense..don't hold grudges..make you points n go home.For example how many kalenjin know there is war in Ethiopia...almost zero..if you kill all Tigrayan...who cares ..most people don't even know they exist.If I say kalenjin fight like Tigray..it doesnt you derail every thread with Tigray have lost so kalenjin have lost...you need mental health assessment
Call me for what..I am nobody..I speak my mind
.I am not politicians..you're mentally ill. I support Ruto but you need to direct your anger to Ruto and Raila.
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What is new is we have an idiot like you who do not deserve to be here..your IQ is lowest we seen here..